Re: Autism

[Guest guest]

Hi Kim,

My son is 7 and also in 1st grade, and he has been diagnosed with PDD-NOS,

which is Pervasive Developmental Disorder- Not Otherwise Specified, which

basically means that according to the person who made the diagnosis, he has

some autism characteristics, but doesn't fit any particular category, such

as typical autism or Asperger Syndrome. Out of curiosity, what are the

behaviors that your son is exhibiting that makes others think he is on the

autism spectrum? What area do you live in (Houston, DFW, Austin, etc...)?

Based on my experience, if you think he needs to be evaluated, I would find

a child psychologist to do an evaluation.

This is a wonderful group, and you will learn SO much about autism by being

on this list. I don't know how I would have made it through the last 4 years

without this group!

Email me off list anytime if you want.

Anne

Lady_Anne@...

-- Autism

Hello,

I am new to this group and joined to get some information on autism.

However, the messages are far beyond my knowledge of autism. I am new to

autism. I have a son that someone told me I should get tested for autism.

I am looking for something that will explain to me in more detail what

autism is and how it is diagnosed.

My son is 6 years old, in 1st grade. I am wondering if he is just autistic,

or if it is just his personality. I have read a few things and I am

confused as to whether to test him & where do I go to get him tested?

Any help or direction you could point me in would be great.

Thanks,

Kim

[Guest guest]

Kim:

I live here in Garland Texas and there is a place called Dallas Metro Care

that does testing. It is what used to be MHMR Mental Health and Mental

Retardation. You might try something like that first. If you are in Texas look

it up online, and even if you are not look it up. They might be able to direct

you to someone near you that can help.

Good Luck!

Debbie

deb1968_99@...

Kim Pine wrote:

Hello,

I am new to this group and joined to get some information on autism. However,

the messages are far beyond my knowledge of autism. I am new to autism. I have a

son that someone told me I should get tested for autism. I am looking for

something that will explain to me in more detail what autism is and how it is

diagnosed.

My son is 6 years old, in 1st grade. I am wondering if he is just autistic, or

if it is just his personality. I have read a few things and I am confused as to

whether to test him & where do I go to get him tested?

Any help or direction you could point me in would be great.

Thanks,

Kim

[Guest guest]

Kim,

I can't help but wonder, since your son is 6 years old- has this question ever

come up before? Generally speaking, our kids have obvious deficits in one or

several areas that are pretty apparent by a relatively young age- usually before

the age of 3. Many (not all) have no language or language delays, don't enjoin

attention, don't point, don't respond when their name is called, some have

behaviors like spinning, rocking, flapping hands, lining up items or playing

inappropriately with toys or objects. Children with Asperger's might appear

typical or can be precocious in one or many areas, but unable to develop

relationships and have a great deal of difficulty with social situations,

nuances, reciprocal conversations, etc.

Does any of this sound like your son? What makes you think that your son may be

on the autism spectrum?

Aliza

Autism

Hello,

I am new to this group and joined to get some information on autism. However,

the messages are far beyond my knowledge of autism. I am new to autism. I have a

son that someone told me I should get tested for autism. I am looking for

something that will explain to me in more detail what autism is and how it is

diagnosed.

My son is 6 years old, in 1st grade. I am wondering if he is just autistic, or

if it is just his personality. I have read a few things and I am confused as to

whether to test him & where do I go to get him tested?

Any help or direction you could point me in would be great.

Thanks,

Kim

[Guest guest]

Thanks! BTW, I live in Houston, TX

To: Texas-Autism-Advocacy@...: deb1968_99@...: Tue, 2

Oct 2007 14:28:58 -0700Subject: Re: Autism

Kim:I live here in Garland Texas and there is a place called Dallas Metro Care

that does testing. It is what used to be MHMR Mental Health and Mental

Retardation. You might try something like that first. If you are in Texas look

it up online, and even if you are not look it up. They might be able to direct

you to someone near you that can help.Good Luck!Debbie

deb1968_99@... Pine wrote:Hello,I am new

to this group and joined to get some information on autism. However, the

messages are far beyond my knowledge of autism. I am new to autism. I have a son

that someone told me I should get tested for autism. I am looking for something

that will explain to me in more detail what autism is and how it is diagnosed.My

son is 6 years old, in 1st grade. I am wondering if he is just autistic, or if

it is just his personality. I have read a few things and I am confused as to

whether to test him & where do I go to get him tested?Any help or direction you

could point me in would be great.Thanks,Kim [Non-text portions of this message

have been removed]---------------------------------Tonight's top picks. What

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[Guest guest]

Yes, this question ever come up before? & also ADD.

He did have a speech delay. I had him in speech therapy since right before the

age of 2. I just had a meeting with his speech therapist on Friday & she said

he is above progress on his speech now. My husband's side of the family has

speech problems, so I assumed it was only due to that @ first.

He never used to socialize with other kids & is just starting to a little more.

He does LOVE attention of people watching him while he plays sports (football &

baseball)

He sometimes does not respond when his name is called - acts like he doesn't

hear you.

He is ALWAYS moving around - spinning yes. He played a football game this past

Saturday & in between the plays (while he was out on the field) he was spinning

around in circles.

He is always lining up items - like cars.

The above is why I think that my son may be on the autism spectrum. I would

appreciate any comments - Thanks!

To: Texas-Autism-Advocacy@...: alizaratterree@...:

Tue, 2 Oct 2007 15:53:33 -0700Subject: Re: Autism

Kim,I can't help but wonder, since your son is 6 years old- has this question

ever come up before? Generally speaking, our kids have obvious deficits in one

or several areas that are pretty apparent by a relatively young age- usually

before the age of 3. Many (not all) have no language or language delays, don't

enjoin attention, don't point, don't respond when their name is called, some

have behaviors like spinning, rocking, flapping hands, lining up items or

playing inappropriately with toys or objects. Children with Asperger's might

appear typical or can be precocious in one or many areas, but unable to develop

relationships and have a great deal of difficulty with social situations,

nuances, reciprocal conversations, etc.Does any of this sound like your son?

What makes you think that your son may be on the autism spectrum?Aliza-----

Original Message ----To:

texas-autism-advocacy@...: Tuesday, October 2, 2007 2:54:09

PMSubject: AutismHello,I am new to this group and joined

to get some information on autism. However, the messages are far beyond my

knowledge of autism. I am new to autism. I have a son that someone told me I

should get tested for autism. I am looking for something that will explain to me

in more detail what autism is and how it is diagnosed.My son is 6 years old, in

1st grade. I am wondering if he is just autistic, or if it is just his

personality. I have read a few things and I am confused as to whether to test

him & where do I go to get him tested?Any help or direction you could point me

in would be great.Thanks,Kim [Non-text portions of this message have been

removed]

[Guest guest]

I am concerned because now after speaking with his speech therapist, I know that

can not be the problem. I just feel like there is something else going on with

him. He seems so distant compared to my other 2 kids. Not as emotional. I

come from a very emotional/loving family & my husband the opposite. So, I

wonder if that is what I am seeing or if there is something else I should be

concerned about. I have asked his teachers and speech therapists what they

thought & they just said he was a quite/stuburn child. He teacher this year

said something about ADD because he seems to drift off & needs to be " brought

back " / " redirected " quite often.

I just want the best for my son - he is such a sweetie (although, he does have a

slight temper but lovable all the else.

Another thing is that he cries at the drop of a hat when things do not go his

way. Not tears, just the crying sound & gets frustrated. You can not raise

your voice at him or he just shuts down & it seems like he goes into his own

little world & is not listening to you.

OH, & he still has accidents at night ever once in awhile. ?????

I live in the Houston/Katy area.

I will talk to my pediatrician to recommend a psychologist. Unless someone has

one to recommend.This is not affecting his school work. He is actually reading

at the passing grade of 1st grade already & math is great!

Thanks again,

Kim

To: Texas-Autism-Advocacy@...: Lady_Anne@...: Tue,

2 Oct 2007 15:44:25 -0500Subject: Re: Autism

Hi Kim, My son is 7 and also in 1st grade, and he has been diagnosed with

PDD-NOS,which is Pervasive Developmental Disorder- Not Otherwise Specified,

whichbasically means that according to the person who made the diagnosis, he

hassome autism characteristics, but doesn't fit any particular category, suchas

typical autism or Asperger Syndrome. Out of curiosity, what are thebehaviors

that your son is exhibiting that makes others think he is on theautism spectrum?

What area do you live in (Houston, DFW, Austin, etc...)?Based on my experience,

if you think he needs to be evaluated, I would finda child psychologist to do an

evaluation. This is a wonderful group, and you will learn SO much about autism

by beingon this list. I don't know how I would have made it through the last 4

yearswithout this group! Email me off list anytime if you want. Anne

Lady_Anne@... --

Autism Hello, I am new to this group and joined to get

some information on autism. However, the messages are far beyond my knowledge of

autism. I am new toautism. I have a son that someone told me I should get tested

for autism. I am looking for something that will explain to me in more detail

whatautism is and how it is diagnosed. My son is 6 years old, in 1st grade. I am

wondering if he is just autistic,or if it is just his personality. I have read a

few things and I amconfused as to whether to test him & where do I go to get him

tested? Any help or direction you could point me in would be great. Thanks, Kim

[Guest guest]

Kim,

Some of the things you mentioned could have been describing MY son. He often

" drifts off " , ignores you when you call his name, lines up items... My son

is opposite in that he's very affectionate, to the point of

inappropriateness. Like I said, he's been diagnosed with PDD-NOS, but I have

thought for along time that he has Asperger Syndrome. I think he wasn't

diagnosed as Asperger because he had a speech delay. However, Asperger is a

fairly new label, and I understand that they recently changed that part of

the criteria that said Aspies are early talkers. They often ARE, but

sometimes can have delays too. I'd definitely have your son evaluated. I

live near Waco, so I can't help you out with the psychologist, but I'll bet

there is someone on this list that can! Also, on Amazon, look up any books

by Tony Attwood, who is an authority on Asperger Syndrome (AS) and high

functioning autism (HFA). Several of his books would probably be helpful to

you.

Anne

--

Autism Hello, I am new to this group and joined to get some information on

autism. However, the messages are far beyond my knowledge of autism. I am

new toautism. I have a son that someone told me I should get tested for

autism. I am looking for something that will explain to me in more detail

whatautism is and how it is diagnosed. My son is 6 years old, in 1st grade.

I am wondering if he is just autistic,or if it is just his personality. I

have read a few things and I amconfused as to whether to test him & where do

I go to get him tested? Any help or direction you could point me in would be

great. Thanks, Kim

[Guest guest]

Thank you very much!

I am very happy I found this yahoo group.

>

> Kim,

>

> Some of the things you mentioned could have been describing MY

son. He often

> " drifts off " , ignores you when you call his name, lines up

items... My son

> is opposite in that he's very affectionate, to the point of

> inappropriateness. Like I said, he's been diagnosed with PDD-NOS,

but I have

> thought for along time that he has Asperger Syndrome. I think he

wasn't

> diagnosed as Asperger because he had a speech delay. However,

Asperger is a

> fairly new label, and I understand that they recently changed that

part of

> the criteria that said Aspies are early talkers. They often ARE,

but

> sometimes can have delays too. I'd definitely have your son

evaluated. I

> live near Waco, so I can't help you out with the psychologist, but

I'll bet

> there is someone on this list that can! Also, on Amazon, look up

any books

> by Tony Attwood, who is an authority on Asperger Syndrome (AS) and

high

> functioning autism (HFA). Several of his books would probably be

helpful to

> you.

>

> Anne

>

> -- [Texas-Autism-

Advocacy]

> Autism Hello, I am new to this group and joined to get some

information on

> autism. However, the messages are far beyond my knowledge of

autism. I am

> new toautism. I have a son that someone told me I should get

tested for

> autism. I am looking for something that will explain to me in more

detail

> whatautism is and how it is diagnosed. My son is 6 years old, in

1st grade.

> I am wondering if he is just autistic,or if it is just his

personality. I

> have read a few things and I amconfused as to whether to test him

& where do

> I go to get him tested? Any help or direction you could point me

in would be

> great. Thanks, Kim [Non-text portions of this message have been

removed]

> Texas Autism Advocacy www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org Texas Disability

Network

> Calendar of Events www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org

[Guest guest]

Sounds like my son, too, who is now in 4th grade in the Cy-Fair ISD, and doing

well. We were diagnosed with speech delay early on by his fabulous pediatrician

in NJ where we lived at the time; she had an Aspie son so she got us into

evaluations and therefore speech therapy before he was 3. Shortly after he

turned 3 we finally got in to see the developmental pediatrician recommended by

our regular pediatrician (the one she used for her son), and we got an official

diagnosis of autism. This same doctor, who was considered one of the experts

in that part of NJ, told me that he thought my son was more Asperger's than

classic autism, even with the speech delay -- this doctor was already

contradicting traditional thought that Aspie kids had normal or early speech

development. We finally decided that my son is on a fine line between HFA and

Aspergers. My son is very affectionate, like Anne's, and also to the point of

inappropriateness. But we had the same lining up of toys,

needing redirection constantly (which is still true to some extent), and " going

into his own world " that your son seems to have. And FWIW, my son had accidents

at night up until this past summer...it can take awhile, but keeping a strict

watch on liquids after a certain hour and making sure he goes to the bathroom

before bed has helped.

Good luck! Keep us posted.

e

Anne wrote:

Kim,

Some of the things you mentioned could have been describing MY son. He often

" drifts off " , ignores you when you call his name, lines up items... My son

is opposite in that he's very affectionate, to the point of

inappropriateness. Like I said, he's been diagnosed with PDD-NOS, but I have

thought for along time that he has Asperger Syndrome. I think he wasn't

diagnosed as Asperger because he had a speech delay. However, Asperger is a

fairly new label, and I understand that they recently changed that part of

the criteria that said Aspies are early talkers. They often ARE, but

sometimes can have delays too. I'd definitely have your son evaluated. I

live near Waco, so I can't help you out with the psychologist, but I'll bet

there is someone on this list that can! Also, on Amazon, look up any books

by Tony Attwood, who is an authority on Asperger Syndrome (AS) and high

functioning autism (HFA). Several of his books would probably be helpful to

you.

Anne

--

Autism Hello, I am new to this group and joined to get some information on

autism. However, the messages are far beyond my knowledge of autism. I am

new toautism. I have a son that someone told me I should get tested for

autism. I am looking for something that will explain to me in more detail

whatautism is and how it is diagnosed. My son is 6 years old, in 1st grade.

I am wondering if he is just autistic,or if it is just his personality. I

have read a few things and I amconfused as to whether to test him & where do

I go to get him tested? Any help or direction you could point me in would be

great. Thanks, Kim

[Guest guest]

Kim,

You may want to contact Kim . She does all kinds of testing and is very

good! I have other people you $ay want to contact, so feel free to email or call

me for the information. I have Dr. 's info at my office, so contact me

tomorrow.

Lesli Bernanke

Under the Umbrella

Founder and Director

Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

Re: Autism

Kim:

I live here in Garland Texas and there is a place called Dallas Metro Care that

does testing. It is what used to be MHMR Mental Health and Mental Retardation.

You might try something like that first. If you are in Texas look it up online,

and even if you are not look it up. They might be able to direct you to someone

near you that can help.

Good Luck!

Debbie

deb1968_99yahoo (DOT) <mailto:deb1968_99%40yahoo.com> com

Kim Pine <kimpinehotmail (DOT) <mailto:kimpine%40hotmail.com> com> wrote:

Hello,

I am new to this group and joined to get some information on autism. However,

the messages are far beyond my knowledge of autism. I am new to autism. I have a

son that someone told me I should get tested for autism. I am looking for

something that will explain to me in more detail what autism is and how it is

diagnosed.

My son is 6 years old, in 1st grade. I am wondering if he is just autistic, or

if it is just his personality. I have read a few things and I am confused as to

whether to test him & where do I go to get him tested?

Any help or direction you could point me in would be great.

Thanks,

Kim

[Guest guest]

http://www.nichcy.org is a good resource for easy to understand explanations

of different disabilities. Check the “A-Z Topics”.

Tonya

From: Texas-Autism-Advocacy

[mailto:Texas-Autism-Advocacy ] On Behalf Of Kim Pine

Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 7:00 PM

To: texas-autism-advocacy

Subject: RE: Autism

I am concerned because now after speaking with his speech therapist, I know

that can not be the problem. I just feel like there is something else going

on with him. He seems so distant compared to my other 2 kids. Not as

emotional. I come from a very emotional/loving family & my husband the

opposite. So, I wonder if that is what I am seeing or if there is something

else I should be concerned about. I have asked his teachers and speech

therapists what they thought & they just said he was a quite/stuburn child.

He teacher this year said something about ADD because he seems to drift off

& needs to be " brought back " / " redirected " quite often.

I just want the best for my son - he is such a sweetie (although, he does

have a slight temper but lovable all the else.

Another thing is that he cries at the drop of a hat when things do not go

his way. Not tears, just the crying sound & gets frustrated. You can not

raise your voice at him or he just shuts down & it seems like he goes into

his own little world & is not listening to you.

OH, & he still has accidents at night ever once in awhile. ?????

I live in the Houston/Katy area.

I will talk to my pediatrician to recommend a psychologist. Unless someone

has one to recommend.This is not affecting his school work. He is actually

reading at the passing grade of 1st grade already & math is great!

Thanks again,

Kim

To: Texas-Autism-Advocacy@...

<mailto:Texas-Autism-Advocacy%40yahoogroups.comFrom> :

Lady_Anne@... <mailto:Lady_Anne%40peoplepc.comDate> : Tue, 2

Oct 2007 15:44:25 -0500Subject: Re: Autism

Hi Kim, My son is 7 and also in 1st grade, and he has been diagnosed with

PDD-NOS,which is Pervasive Developmental Disorder- Not Otherwise Specified,

whichbasically means that according to the person who made the diagnosis, he

hassome autism characteristics, but doesn't fit any particular category,

suchas typical autism or Asperger Syndrome. Out of curiosity, what are

thebehaviors that your son is exhibiting that makes others think he is on

theautism spectrum? What area do you live in (Houston, DFW, Austin,

etc...)?Based on my experience, if you think he needs to be evaluated, I

would finda child psychologist to do an evaluation. This is a wonderful

group, and you will learn SO much about autism by beingon this list. I don't

know how I would have made it through the last 4 yearswithout this group!

Email me off list anytime if you want. Anne Lady_Anne@...

<mailto:Lady_Anne%40peoplepc.com> --

Autism Hello, I am new to this group and joined to

get some information on autism. However, the messages are far beyond my

knowledge of autism. I am new toautism. I have a son that someone told me I

should get tested for autism. I am looking for something that will explain

to me in more detail whatautism is and how it is diagnosed. My son is 6

years old, in 1st grade. I am wondering if he is just autistic,or if it is

just his personality. I have read a few things and I amconfused as to

whether to test him & where do I go to get him tested? Any help or direction

you could point me in would be great. Thanks, Kim [Non-text portions of this

message have been removed] Texas Autism Advocacy www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org

Texas Disability Network Calendar of Events www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org

[Guest guest]

Is your son in a public school? If so then if the school has some

concerns about autism then they should perform what is known as a FIE

(Full and Independent Evaluation) at their expense. They typically

bring in a psychologist to observe your child in the classroom

setting. If you are concerned then you might have to approach the

special ed people at your school to request that a FIE be done. The

main problem with an FIE is that it's a so called " educational

evaluation " , not a medical evaluation so it may leave a lot to be

desired in terms of diagnosis.

You may seek a medical evaluation but the school won't pay for that

unless you fight them on it. There is some debate as to what kind of

medical specialist should perform such an evaluation for autism. A

pediatric neurologist, a developmental pediatrician, or a pediatric

psychologist are all options. It is important to note that there is

no cut-and-dried medical test such as a blood test, MRI, etc., etc.

that will diagnose autism. The diagnosis is based solely on

behavioral observation and responses to questionnaires that you give

them. Thus, there are plenty of cases where one doctor gives a

diagnosis of autism and another gives a diagnosis of PDD-NOS.

Good luck.

BTW,

I had a medical diagnosis done for my son by Dr. W. on

of Houston who is a developmental pediatrician.

>

>

> Hello,

> I am new to this group and joined to get some information on

autism. However, the messages are far beyond my knowledge of

autism. I am new to autism. I have a son that someone told me I

should get tested for autism. I am looking for something that will

explain to me in more detail what autism is and how it is diagnosed.

> My son is 6 years old, in 1st grade. I am wondering if he is just

autistic, or if it is just his personality. I have read a few things

and I am confused as to whether to test him & where do I go to get

him tested?

> Any help or direction you could point me in would be great.

> Thanks,

> Kim

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

YES, GET MMS, www.mmsanswers.com

VERY GOOD STUFF.

>

>

> Carmi, is there a treatment for Hashi's thyroiditis?

>

>

>>

>>

>>

>> The trend lately to dealing with autism is using chelating substances to

>> pull heavy metals out of the body. Most vaccines contained a form of mercury

>> called thimerosal as a preservative. Other junk in the vaccines also lead to

>> this problem Dr. Carley on her website drcarley.com covers this in great

>> detail.

>>

>> That said, I have been pondering another approach to this condition and I

>> see no reason as to why it wouldn't be effective in limiting this condition.

>> Back in the early 1900's a Dr. D. Neel of Chicago discovered that

>> ozone gas could be rendered breathable by converting its chemistry by

>> combining it into various pinus oils. He developed a substance as a result

>> of the molecular changes that occurred that resulted in a different

>> substance that actually enhanced the healing characteristics of ozone gas

>> which is, of course, an enriched form of oxygen known as O3. Normally ozone

>> is too reactive to sensitive lung tissue and results in tissue damage and

>> edema which can be very deadly. The risk is totally eliminated when the raw

>> ozone gas is combined with pinus oils.

>>

>> The common denominator to most disease is low body temperature.

>> Hypothyroidism runs rampant throughout our society because our government

>> fails to protect the individual citizen from the ravages and greed of the

>> industrial complex that Dwight Eisenhower so eloquently stated when he left

>> the Presidential office so many years ago.

>>

>> Deadly halogens are not only permitted to be deliberately placed into our

>> environment but we are actually marked to in order to maintain the deadly

>> deception as to the deleterious effects of the halogens of Bromine, Chlorine

>> and Fluorine has on the iodine stability in our thyroid glands. Iodine is

>> required by all body tissues, especially the breasts and uterine tissues and

>> it is required by the thyroid gland to produce its most critical hormone,

>> thyroxine. When the thyroid function is reduced, the body temperature is

>> lowered and a chain reaction of poor metabolic function is the result.

>>

>> The inhalation of oil impregnated ozone gas into the lungs greatly

>> increases blood oxygen tension and immediately raises metabolic function. As

>> the body increases its metabolic rate to more normal levels, toxins and all

>> other foreign proteins, metals and chemicals are identified by the immune

>> system which is now better able to deal with the offending substances. I

>> know a doctor in Cincinnati who uses hyperbaric oxygen chambers with

>> children with Autism and is getting some encouraging results. The

>> application of HBO is expensive and must be repeated on a regular basis in

>> order to achieve any appreciable results. I believe an investment in a Ozol

>> production kit would have the same if not better results in dealing with

>> Autism. I have no proof or experience in using it for this condition but by

>> the same token, I see no reason as to why it wouldn't work and I strongly

>> suspect that is will turn out to be surprisingly effective.

>>

>> Tom Harrelson, a long term personal friend of mine and fellow researcher

>> has created a simple and highly effective kit that replicates long forgotten

>> Dr. Neel's healing concept.

>> Carmi Hazen

>>

>> http://healingtools.tripod.com/VDS2_ug12.html

>>

>>

>> >

>> > >

>> > >

>> > > My 13 year old son is autistic -- his issues date back to shortly

>> > > after he

>> > > received numerous vaccines at 13 months of age. I've heard Rife

>> > > mentioned

>> > > periodically over the years as a treatment for autism. My mom plans to

>> > > order

>> > > a rife machine shortly -- I don't know the exact model. Is anyone on

>> > > this

>> > > list knowledgeable on how to treat autism with a rife machine and what

>> > > I can

>> > > expect?

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> >

>>

>

>

--

Hildegard e

Email: hildegard.martine@...

[Guest guest]

what are the rife frequencies to detox mercury please

carol

(we have a Rife programme for mercury detox too).

>

> Our son's autism diagnosis was removed about a year ago.

>

> If you'd like to e-mail off list I can give lots more info on our

interventions.

>

> Best wishes

> Tim

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Unfortuntatly not that I am personaly aware of. However, and thyroid conditions

are strongly linked to iodine. There is a urine challenge test that should be

performed before using any form of supplemental iodine. The adrenals are also

usually involved as well. Many doctors will prescribe synthetic thyroid hormones

which are for the most part, worthless. Far better to use desiccated animal

thyroid hormones as they work much better. If you doctor won't prescribe them

for you, find a doctor that will. A good form of elemental iodine is kelp or you

can take Iodoral. Our government banned Lugol's solution which is the best form

to use. It can be found diluted and hideously expensive.

The various thyroid tests that doctors perform are pretty much useless as well

with the exception of perhaps TPO. Its far better to monitor your basal temp to

get an idea of your thyroid function. Taking thyroid hormones over time

increases the risk for breast cancer among others as it acts in ways similar to

steroids. Conditions such as osteoperosis and hormone induced diabetes can often

result. It is far better to utilize iodine first before venturing into more

exotic treatments. If glaucoma is an issue this indicates poor adrenal function

which can be supplemented with ACE (Adrenal Cortex Extract) and high doses of

Vitamin C. Often both the thyroid and adrenals are in trouble.

Many years ago before a false iodine scare, doctors were using iodine at high

levels to treat both hypo and hyper thyroidism.

I do not believe in the concept of autoimmune diseases. I see the term as a cop

out or code speak from your doctor who is admitting that he is clueless. Lots of

sunshine and a clean digestive tract has restored health to more people than any

other forms of treatment. In the so-called autoimmune diseases, I always suggest

a full series of colonic irrigations. It is amazing how much better most people

feel when they unload years of stored putrefied toxins. Your BMs should be

odorless. If they are not, you are very likely toxic. A movement should occur

after every meal.

Transcutaneous applications of magnesium chloride is very beneficial. I but it

in 50 lb bags and soak in it in the bath tub. Also selenium plays a role as

well. 200 to 400 mcg daily is beneficial. Both of these minerals along with

COQ10 enzymes will often slow down or even prevent tachycardia.

Harsh treatments such as surgery to reduce they thyroid size or worse, RAI are

fiendishly barbaric and completely unnecessary. A perfect example of salacious

vivisection.

If its any consolation, hyperthyroid people seldom develop cancer.

Carmi Hazen

>

> Carmi, is there a treatment for Hashi's thyroiditis?

>

> SNIP

[Guest guest]

Tim

Bravo on all your endless efforts on behalf of your son....really so happy for your whole family )

 

 

HiWe recovered our son from early onset autism using a number of interventions including Rife.The major interventions we used are diet (Specific Carbohydrate Diet); supplementation of vitamins, minerals and amino acids (following DAN! at first then Amy Yasko's nutrigenomics programme later); and combating chronic infections such as yeast, chlostridia, strep, etc.

We use Rife to help with the last of these but really don't think it would be much help without a strict diet in place.Our son has high mercury levels but we have done very little chelation for heavy metals. Instead, we've taken steps to help the body detox naturally which seems to have worked very well for us (we have a Rife programme for mercury detox too).

Our son's autism diagnosis was removed about a year ago.If you'd like to e-mail off list I can give lots more info on our interventions.Best wishesTim

>> My 13 year old son is autistic -- his issues date back to shortly after he received numerous vaccines at 13 months of age. I've heard Rife mentioned periodically over the years as a treatment for autism. My mom plans to order a rife machine shortly -- I don't know the exact model. Is anyone on this list knowledgeable on how to treat autism with a rife machine and what I can expect?

>

[Guest guest]

I don't understand why someone would disbelieve in autoimmune diseases. In my case, I have antibodies to my own thyroid, as well as a very high TSH--something which iodine will not correct. Hyperthyroid people seldom develop cancer?? That's nice for them but Hashi's is hypothyroidism.

 

Unfortuntatly not that I am personaly aware of. However, and thyroid conditions are strongly linked to iodine. There is a urine challenge test that should be performed before using any form of supplemental iodine. The adrenals are also usually involved as well. Many doctors will prescribe synthetic thyroid hormones which are for the most part, worthless. Far better to use desiccated animal thyroid hormones as they work much better. If you doctor won't prescribe them for you, find a doctor that will. A good form of elemental iodine is kelp or you can take Iodoral. Our government banned Lugol's solution which is the best form to use. It can be found diluted and hideously expensive.

The various thyroid tests that doctors perform are pretty much useless as well with the exception of perhaps TPO. Its far better to monitor your basal temp to get an idea of your thyroid function. Taking thyroid hormones over time increases the risk for breast cancer among others as it acts in ways similar to steroids. Conditions such as osteoperosis and hormone induced diabetes can often result. It is far better to utilize iodine first before venturing into more exotic treatments. If glaucoma is an issue this indicates poor adrenal function which can be supplemented with ACE (Adrenal Cortex Extract) and high doses of Vitamin C. Often both the thyroid and adrenals are in trouble.

Many years ago before a false iodine scare, doctors were using iodine at high levels to treat both hypo and hyper thyroidism.

I do not believe in the concept of autoimmune diseases. I see the term as a cop out or code speak from your doctor who is admitting that he is clueless. Lots of sunshine and a clean digestive tract has restored health to more people than any other forms of treatment. In the so-called autoimmune diseases, I always suggest a full series of colonic irrigations. It is amazing how much better most people feel when they unload years of stored putrefied toxins. Your BMs should be odorless. If they are not, you are very likely toxic. A movement should occur after every meal.

Transcutaneous applications of magnesium chloride is very beneficial. I but it in 50 lb bags and soak in it in the bath tub. Also selenium plays a role as well. 200 to 400 mcg daily is beneficial. Both of these minerals along with COQ10 enzymes will often slow down or even prevent tachycardia.

Harsh treatments such as surgery to reduce they thyroid size or worse, RAI are fiendishly barbaric and completely unnecessary. A perfect example of salacious vivisection.

If its any consolation, hyperthyroid people seldom develop cancer.

Carmi Hazen

>

> Carmi, is there a treatment for Hashi's thyroiditis?

>

> SNIP

[Guest guest]

The protomorphogen products from Standard Process work great for

autoimmune conditions. The one for thyroid is called Thytrophin.

Randy wrote:

>

>

> I don't understand why someone would disbelieve in autoimmune

> diseases. In my case, I have antibodies to my own thyroid, as well as

> a very high TSH--something which iodine will not correct. Hyperthyroid

> people seldom develop cancer?? That's nice for them but Hashi's is

> hypothyroidism.

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks , sounds interesting.

 

The protomorphogen products from Standard Process work great for

autoimmune conditions. The one for thyroid is called Thytrophin.

Randy wrote:

>

>

> I don't understand why someone would disbelieve in autoimmune

> diseases. In my case, I have antibodies to my own thyroid, as well as

> a very high TSH--something which iodine will not correct. Hyperthyroid

> people seldom develop cancer?? That's nice for them but Hashi's is

> hypothyroidism.

>

[Guest guest]

Check out the Iodine group on yahoo groups. They recommend Iodoral and I think I just read how someone's child had his autisms symptoms go away after taking iodoral. You may have to search the list's postings or ask on the list about this.

Good luck.

Angie

Subject: Re: AutismTo: Rife Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 2:17 PM

Unfortuntatly not that I am personaly aware of. However, and thyroid conditions are strongly linked to iodine. There is a urine challenge test that should be performed before using any form of supplemental iodine. The adrenals are also usually involved as well. Many doctors will prescribe synthetic thyroid hormones which are for the most part, worthless. Far better to use desiccated animal thyroid hormones as they work much better. If you doctor won't prescribe them for you, find a doctor that will. A good form of elemental iodine is kelp or you can take Iodoral. Our government banned Lugol's solution which is the best form to use. It can be found diluted and hideously expensive.The various thyroid tests that doctors perform are pretty much useless as well with the exception of perhaps TPO. Its far better to monitor your basal temp to get an idea of your thyroid function. Taking thyroid hormones over time increases the risk for breast cancer

among others as it acts in ways similar to steroids. Conditions such as osteoperosis and hormone induced diabetes can often result. It is far better to utilize iodine first before venturing into more exotic treatments. If glaucoma is an issue this indicates poor adrenal function which can be supplemented with ACE (Adrenal Cortex Extract) and high doses of Vitamin C. Often both the thyroid and adrenals are in trouble. Many years ago before a false iodine scare, doctors were using iodine at high levels to treat both hypo and hyper thyroidism. I do not believe in the concept of autoimmune diseases. I see the term as a cop out or code speak from your doctor who is admitting that he is clueless. Lots of sunshine and a clean digestive tract has restored health to more people than any other forms of treatment. In the so-called autoimmune diseases, I always suggest a full series of colonic irrigations. It is amazing how much better most people

feel when they unload years of stored putrefied toxins. Your BMs should be odorless. If they are not, you are very likely toxic. A movement should occur after every meal.Transcutaneous applications of magnesium chloride is very beneficial. I but it in 50 lb bags and soak in it in the bath tub. Also selenium plays a role as well. 200 to 400 mcg daily is beneficial. Both of these minerals along with COQ10 enzymes will often slow down or even prevent tachycardia.Harsh treatments such as surgery to reduce they thyroid size or worse, RAI are fiendishly barbaric and completely unnecessary. A perfect example of salacious vivisection.If its any consolation, hyperthyroid people seldom develop cancer. Carmi Hazen>> Carmi, is there a treatment for Hashi's thyroiditis?> > SNIP

[Guest guest]

Thanks so much to all of you who responded to my post. We've pursued many of

the treatments mentioned for many years (diet, chelation, specific supplements,

" gut bug " treatments both natural and prescription, MB12 injections, etc., as

well as low dose naltrexone for the last few years). My daughters (Christian is

a triplet) suffered from many of the same issues but after years of biomedical

treatments and therapy have been fully recovered for several years -- Christian,

although greatly improved, is my " tough nut " . My initial interest in rife was

based on his gut bug (yeast, etc.) issues, and the possible lyme disease

connection. Again, thanks so much -- you've given me a lot to think about.

[Guest guest]

Did ou check out the Iodine group of yahoogroups? There was a woman who treated her son of Autism through high doses of Iodoral and support suplements.

Also, try the QXCI scan with at Innerfocus.com.

Angie

Subject: Re: AutismTo: Rife Date: Wednesday, September 9, 2009, 11:08 AM

Thanks so much to all of you who responded to my post. We've pursued many of the treatments mentioned for many years (diet, chelation, specific supplements, "gut bug" treatments both natural and prescription, MB12 injections, etc., as well as low dose naltrexone for the last few years). My daughters (Christian is a triplet) suffered from many of the same issues but after years of biomedical treatments and therapy have been fully recovered for several years -- Christian, although greatly improved, is my "tough nut". My initial interest in rife was based on his gut bug (yeast, etc.) issues, and the possible lyme disease connection. Again, thanks so much -- you've given me a lot to think about.