Guest guest Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 Dear and Members, I agree with s view here. Silver has never been appart of the human nutritional blueprint. Looking at some aspects of its history with the royals of hundreds of years ago who ate from silver utensiles - they weren't called blue bloods for nothing. Many of the royals suffered emotional and hormonal imblances - and we see this here, today, when some people do question silver's use in health care and wellness, the supporters get all emotional and come out very strong defending its use. Is this a sign of something more sinister lurking below the radar from long term use ? I have a bottle of it in my cupboard " for emergency use " only. Sincerely, Ken Uzzell http://heal-me.com.au HealMe Foundation A New Humanity Associate Re: Colloidal silver > No doubt about it being effective. My question is whether or not it is > safe. Or does it act like a toxic heavy metal? > > Possibly it should be saved for emergencies. > > Loyd > http://www.royalrife.com > > > > E. s wrote: >> >> >> Thank you Nenah!!!!! I'm also an far infrared Sauna user 3 - 4 times >> weekly. >> >> Jon Ellis s >> >> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 9:56 AM, nenahsylver <nenahsylver@... >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> [ Flaig]. . . get a chemistry book and see what it says about >> ionic silver and HCL. You claim that your equipment produces >> " colloidal silver " . . . . . If you actually read the article you >> would have found that the antimicrobial effects ionic silver are >> destroyed when you drink it but actual silver atoms can be >> ingested and still be effective. >> >> ======================================== >> >> Most of the CS (or EIS) generators on the market today produce a >> mixture of silver colloids and silver ions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 Ken:I don't think you were just asking a question. You alluded that the probability of emotional and hormonal imbalances concerning the bluebloods might be attributed to silver usage. That's a little on the heavy end for me, when some used arsenic to whiten their skins. And opium drinks were used, too. You also alluded that you only keep one bottle around for emergencies. For Nadine Wooley, MS was a definite emergency, and it helped her get out of her wheel chair and walk with a cane. She was so impressed with the results she wrote a book. For Dr. Farber, when nothing else cured his Lyme disease, it was a definite emergency and with CSW he cured his Lyme disease. He, too, wrote a book about his curing experience. Many others have, too. I'm not saying it's a miracle worker or the only " thing " one should depend on, but it's one protocol that I've seen used effectively for at least the last ten years, maybe longer. From chatting with my good buddy in Houston, i know your intentions are good, but you were just a little heavy handed this one time around and I thought I should address it. A woman I worked with in Florida had breast cancer. She wasn't interested in Rife or a wider range of what I could offer to help her, but she used two ounces of Flor*essence mixed with two ounces of heated (not nuked) spring water three times daily before meals and before retiring, and CSW 3 - 4 times daily (2 oz each time). She was on no other protocol. After six months of using these simple two protocols she was xrayed and scanned and the cancer was gone, to her and her oncologist's surprise. She called, emotionally crying, to tell me the good news. Her mother had died from breast cancer. Her doctor told her, " I don't know what you're doing, but don't stop. " She's still on a maintenance program five years later using the same protocols daily to avoid any recurrence. Could the cancer go away by itself? Yes, but I think she had some help - and she's happy she did. It's hard to argue with success. I'm an advocate for the use of CSW, but in using it wisely. Not in every case. It's just one of many of God's wonderful natural healing gifts. [ E. s] The Blueblood's were some of the only folks who made it through the vicious plagues of the 15th and 16th centuries because they ate off silver plates with silver utensils. Silver has been used long before refrigeration to keep water fresh, milk fresh. It may not be part of the human nutritional blueprint, but every cell has silver in it. The healing properties of silver have been known for centuries. It may not be something for daily use as good organic and natural foods, but it has it's place and if made correctly and used correctly, has no side effects. Why didn't Nadine Wooley have hormonal imbalances while she was ingesting 16 oz daily for two years to address her MS - and progress with it? How did Dr. Farber maintain his hormonal balances curing his Lyme disease using CSW. I think you're overstretching, Ken. ============================================= I’d basically have to agree with you, . In Chapter 3 of my new Rife Handbook, there’s a section on silver. I added it to this edition because I have seen first-hand—and listened to reports from others—how invaluable properly made colloidal/ionic silver (or EIS, electrically isolated silver) has been in helping them get well. According to some new research, silver helps support immune function, independent of its microbe-disabling qualities. Some authorities also believe that silver is an essential nutrient, like other trace minerals. That’s my opinion as well. Mainstream media is great for sensationalizing all the weird news, but they never tell you about the thousands of people who healed themselves with homemade CS/EIS solutions. In my book, I discuss why silver has gotten such a bad reputation. I personally spoke to Karason, the “blue man” who was on national TV. He indeed made CS incorrectly, using salt. There are two other widely publicized incidences of blue people, and what they made was NOT CS, ionic silver or EIS. It was silver COMPOUNDS, which have an entirely different effect than CS/ionic silver/EIS. CS may not be the wisest thing to guzzle quarts of a day if you’re healthy, but some people do it anyway and haven’t had a sick day in their lives. AND their skins are normally hued. One naturopath colleague in Canada used to constantly report how his wife drank it when pregnant. The baby was fine. The family used it in cooking, for soups, stews, tea (CS can be heated). Everyone was fine. During flu season, none of the kids got sick while all their classmates did. CS is in my own repertoire of healing agents. Interestingly, my partner never thought much of CS one way or the other—until I started substituting straight CS in my dogs’ water dish for the filtered water they’d been getting. The dogs drank THREE TIMES as much CS as they had water. That really impressed my partner. Now, when he’s feeling under the weather, he drinks it and it perks him right up. I live in a very hot climate, where if you don’t drink constantly it’s easy to become dehydrated. The water I kept in the car when doing errands used to get contaminated really quickly—one-half or one hour in the heat would breed so many microbes that I would become ill (headache, sore throat) and the water would taste funky. I began adding one to five ounces into the water bottle—any amount I felt like adding, it wasn’t scientific—and the awful taste never occurred. Everyone has their own experience of what they need. I don’t think there’s any such thing as a “magic” pill that solves everything. But there’s a good reason why Big Pharma doesn’t like CS. On that basis alone, one has to think that CS is worth trying. Best, Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD author: The Rife Handbook of Frequency Therapy (2009) – NOW AVAILABLE IN HARDCOVER www.nenahsylver.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 [ Flaig] , Just a couple questions for you: 1. How do you know the Blueblood's were the only folks that made it through the plagues. Were you there? or do you have some data from a reliable source to support this claim? 2. Let's just say your right, then you conclude that this was because they ate off of silver plates. Gee, in logic we call this argument -- after the fact, therefore because of it. Logic would also suggest that there are many other possible factors that could explain this e.g., they had better food, they, the lived heated rooms, they drank wine, they had access to medical care, they were educated, etc. All factors which you have ignored in favor of your pet theory. If you can eliminate these other factors, then get back to me. Dr. Flaig PS- And if you cured breast cancer with CS, I'd suggest you contact NCI because thousands of scientist have been working for 40 years and apparently they need your help. ====================================== Dr. Flaig: I agree with you that the theories about bluebloods in the past may be just that—theories—and that better living conditions and better food could certainly help explain why the bluebloods had lower mortality rates than non-bluebloods during the plague. However, this does not negate the value of colloidal silver. Have you ever tried properly made CS, ionic silver or EIS? What about all the people who report how much silver has helped them? Would you discount their reports? If so, why would you discount them? I’d also like to point out that the NCI is funded by Big Pharma and is certainly not interested in non-invasive, non-drug protocols that cannot be patented, and which are made and self-administered at home. Your post, whether you meant it to be or not, can easily be construed as provocative and inflammatory. I’m curious: you sign your posts “Dr. Flaig.” What is your area of expertise and research? Sincerely, Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD author: The Rife Handbook of Frequency Therapy (2009) NOW IN HARDCOVER & The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy www.nenahsylver.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 [ Flaig] , Just a couple questions for you: 1. How do you know the Blueblood's were the only folks that made it through the plagues. Were you there? or do you have some data from a reliable source to support this claim? 2. Let's just say your right, then you conclude that this was because they ate off of silver plates. Gee, in logic we call this argument -- after the fact, therefore because of it. Logic would also suggest that there are many other possible factors that could explain this e.g., they had better food, they, the lived heated rooms, they drank wine, they had access to medical care, they were educated, etc. All factors which you have ignored in favor of your pet theory. If you can eliminate these other factors, then get back to me. Dr. Flaig PS- And if you cured breast cancer with CS, I'd suggest you contact NCI because thousands of scientist have been working for 40 years and apparently they need your help. ====================================== Dr. Flaig: I agree with you that the theories about bluebloods in the past may be just that—theories—and that better living conditions and better food could certainly help explain why the bluebloods had lower mortality rates than non-bluebloods during the plague. However, this does not negate the value of colloidal silver. Have you ever tried properly made CS, ionic silver or EIS? What about all the people who report how much silver has helped them? Would you discount their reports? If so, why would you discount them? I'd also like to point out that the NCI is funded by Big Pharma and is certainly not interested in non-invasive, non-drug protocols that cannot be patented, and which are made and self-administered at home. Your post, whether you meant it to be or not, can easily be construed as provocative and inflammatory. I'm curious: you sign your posts " Dr. Flaig. " What is your area of expertise and research? Sincerely, Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD author: The Rife Handbook of Frequency Therapy (2009) NOW IN HARDCOVER & The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy www.nenahsylver.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 Dr. Flaig:My research into CSW many years ago explained what the bluebloods did to make it through the plagues. It also explained how the ancient Egyptian's kept their water fresh and bacteria free in silver lined containers. And how the early Americans traveling west in their Conestoga wagons kept their milk and water fresh by putting silver dollars in them - or using silver lined containers. It's not really a pet theory, just deep research. Other poor folks who died from the plagues ate off wooden plates with wooden utensils which harbored the bacteria. Was I there? Another good joke, Dr. Flaig. Please... The NCI is not interested in curing cancer - only treating it to make their greedy big bucks. Chemo, radiation, surgery - all FDA and AMA approved treatments have caused the American Holocaust - millions and millions dying needlessly. I wouldn't treat a dog with those absurd, but professionally approved treatments. That's like a good dentist putting in silver fillings with mercury - how wonderful - if you want a serious neuro-toxin in your system. That was FDA and ADA approved, too. And Fluoride, another great scientifically proven cancer causer FDA and ADA approved. There are so many alternatives to dealing with cancer that you good doctors can't even entertain because if you did you'd lose your license to practice medicine - or you'd have to move out of the country like Dr. s II, to tell the " truth " concerning lies and real medicine. Truthfully, I'm glad I'm not an M.D. because there are so many other better, natural and non-invasive avenues available for me to explore (Gerson, H202, photoluminescence, Flor*essence, Rene Caisse, Dr. A. Brusch, Bob Beck, Dr. O'Becker, Weston Price, , Hulda , Rife, Hoxy, Laetrile, supplements, etc.,) that work much better. Whether or not you believe I helped this woman in Florida cure her cancer means nothing to me. And the NIC would be the very last place I'd ever contact - I'd never do that. But, your cynicism here is well noted, but annoys me not. For 35 years I've continually run into 99% of the folks that are non-believers - and full believers in modern medicine - which I am not. Not that it matters, but I have letters of testimony from several folks I've worked with who've been victims of various kinds of cancer and who are now cancer free. The proof is in the pudding... Yes, some folks I've worked with, 4th stagers after the doctors gave up and sent them home to die, came to me as a last resort - and they didn't make it. I'd rather chat with a cancer victim immediately after diagnosis before they started any treatment. That's where I've been most effective. Before the oncologists start their deadly treatments... Tony Snow didn't die from colon cancer. He hadn't had a colon for over five years. He died from chemotherapy poisoning. Farrah Fawcett in the beginning had a small tumor in her anus that could've been treated non-invasively, but as soon as the oncologist's biopsied it, it spread the cancer throughout her circulatory and lymph system to every part of her body. At least they made a lot of money off her over the most miserable years she lived " doing their best " before she succumbed... By being an M.D., to me, only means that you've rigorously studied King Pharma's medical school curriculum's which have been in place since D. Rockefeller initiated his well paid-off programs for all hospitals, pharmaceutical companies, doctors and medical schools all over the world over a 100 years ago when he owned almost all of the pharmaceutical companies. His grandson, , still owns 85% of them - in the shadows. And it's grown and gotten worse since then. It's just another form of brainwashing and propaganda that most folks believe and swallow with a little Prevacid. Oh, yes, I'd want a good surgeon if I broke a bone, had a serious wound or had to have my appendix removed, but not for much else. Keep up the good work, Dr. Flaig... [ Flaig] , Just a couple questions for you: 1. How do you know the Blueblood's were the only folks that made it through the plagues. Were you there? or do you have some data from a reliable source to support this claim? 2. Let's just say your right, then you conclude that this was because they ate off of silver plates. Gee, in logic we call this argument -- after the fact, therefore because of it. Logic would also suggest that there are many other possible factors that could explain this e.g., they had better food, they, the lived heated rooms, they drank wine, they had access to medical care, they were educated, etc. All factors which you have ignored in favor of your pet theory. If you can eliminate these other factors, then get back to me. Dr. Flaig PS- And if you cured breast cancer with CS, I'd suggest you contact NCI because thousands of scientist have been working for 40 years and apparently they need your help. ====================================== Dr. Flaig: I agree with you that the theories about bluebloods in the past may be just that—theories—and that better living conditions and better food could certainly help explain why the bluebloods had lower mortality rates than non-bluebloods during the plague. However, this does not negate the value of colloidal silver. Have you ever tried properly made CS, ionic silver or EIS? What about all the people who report how much silver has helped them? Would you discount their reports? If so, why would you discount them? I'd also like to point out that the NCI is funded by Big Pharma and is certainly not interested in non-invasive, non-drug protocols that cannot be patented, and which are made and self-administered at home. Your post, whether you meant it to be or not, can easily be construed as provocative and inflammatory. I'm curious: you sign your posts " Dr. Flaig. " What is your area of expertise and research? Sincerely, Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD author: The Rife Handbook of Frequency Therapy (2009) NOW IN HARDCOVER & The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy www.nenahsylver.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 Flaig: You really, in your heart of hearts, do not reeeeeeely think that NCI would give a ____ if cured cancer do you? Harvey in Houston Flaig wrote: > > , > > Just a couple questions for you: > > 1. How do you know the Blueblood's were the only folks that made it > through the plagues. Were you there? or do you have some data from a > reliable source to support this claim? > > 2. Let's just say your right, then you conclude that this was because > they ate off of silver plates. Gee, in logic we call this argument -- > after the fact, therefore because of it. Logic would also suggest that > there are many other possible factors that could explain this e.g., > they had better food, they, the lived heated rooms, they drank wine, > they had access to medical care, they were educated, etc. All factors > which you have ignored in favor of your pet theory. If you can > eliminate these other factors, then get back to me. > > Dr. Flaig > > PS- And if you cured breast cancer with CS, I'd suggest you contact > NCI because thousands of scientist have been working for 40 years and > apparently they need your help. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* E. s > *To:* Rife > *Sent:* Friday, September 4, 2009 2:28:37 AM > *Subject:* Re: Colloidal silver > > > > The Blueblood's were some of the only folks who made it through the > vicious plagues of the 15th and 16th centuries because they ate off > silver plates with silver utensils. Silver has been used long before > refrigeration to keep water fresh, milk fresh. It may not be part of > the human nutritional blueprint, but every cell has silver in it. The > healing properties of silver have been known for centuries. It may > not be something for daily use as good organic and natural foods, but > it has it's place and if made correctly and used correctly, has no > side effects. Why didn't Nadine Wooley have hormonal imbalances while > she was ingesting 16 oz daily for two years to address her MS - and > progress with it? How did Dr. Farber maintain his hormonal balances > curing his Lyme disease using CSW. I think you're overstretching, Ken. > > > > On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Ken Uzzell <kenheal-me (DOT) com.au > > wrote: > > > > Dear and Members, > > I agree with s view here. Silver has never been appart of > the human > nutritional blueprint. > > Looking at some aspects of its history with the royals of hundreds > of years > ago who ate from silver utensiles - they weren't called blue > bloods for > nothing. > > Many of the royals suffered emotional and hormonal imblances - and > we see > this here, today, when some people do question silver's use in > health care > and wellness, the supporters get all emotional and come out very > strong > defending its use. > > Is this a sign of something more sinister lurking below the radar > from long > term use ? > > I have a bottle of it in my cupboard " for emergency use " only. > > Sincerely, > > Ken Uzzell > http://heal- me.com.au <http://heal-me.com.au> > HealMe Foundation > A New Humanity Associate > > Re: Colloidal silver > > > No doubt about it being effective. My question is whether or not > it is > > safe. Or does it act like a toxic heavy metal? > > > > Possibly it should be saved for emergencies. > > > > Loyd > > http://www.royalrif e.com <http://www.royalrife.com> > > > > > > > > E. s wrote: > >> > >> > >> Thank you Nenah!!!!! I'm also an far infrared Sauna user 3 - 4 > times > >> weekly. > >> > >> Jon Ellis s > >> > >> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 9:56 AM, nenahsylver <nenahsylver@ > cox.net <mailto:nenahsylver%40cox.net> > >> <mailto:nenahsylver@ cox.net <mailto:nenahsylver%40cox.net>>> > wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> [ Flaig]. . . get a chemistry book and see what it says about > >> ionic silver and HCL. You claim that your equipment produces > >> " colloidal silver " . . . . . If you actually read the article you > >> would have found that the antimicrobial effects ionic silver are > >> destroyed when you drink it but actual silver atoms can be > >> ingested and still be effective. > >> > >> ============ ========= ========= ========= = > >> > >> Most of the CS (or EIS) generators on the market today produce a > >> mixture of silver colloids and silver ions. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 Well put . However, I would ask you to feel for them because not only they are afraid and frustrated of the fact that they can't cure cancer (albeit at great profit), but also feel threatened from those of us who can. Cheers ND E. s wrote: > > > Dr. Flaig: > > My research into CSW many years ago explained what the bluebloods did > to make it through the plagues. It also explained how the ancient > Egyptian's kept their water fresh and bacteria free in silver lined > containers. And how the early Americans traveling west in their > Conestoga wagons kept their milk and water fresh by putting silver > dollars in them - or using silver lined containers. It's not really a > pet theory, just deep research. Other poor folks who died from the > plagues ate off wooden plates with wooden utensils which harbored the > bacteria. Was I there? Another good joke, Dr. Flaig. > Please... The NCI is not interested in curing cancer - only treating > it to make their greedy big bucks. Chemo, radiation, surgery - all > FDA and AMA approved treatments have caused the American Holocaust - > millions and millions dying needlessly. I wouldn't treat a dog with > those absurd, but professionally approved treatments. That's like a > good dentist putting in silver fillings with mercury - how wonderful - > if you want a serious neuro-toxin in your system. That was FDA and > ADA approved, too. And Fluoride, another great scientifically proven > cancer causer FDA and ADA approved. > There are so many alternatives to dealing with cancer that you good > doctors can't even entertain because if you did you'd lose your > license to practice medicine - or you'd have to move out of the > country like Dr. s II, to tell the " truth " > concerning lies and real medicine. Truthfully, I'm glad I'm not an > M.D. because there are so many other better, natural and non-invasive > avenues available for me to explore (Gerson, H202, photoluminescence, > Flor*essence, Rene Caisse, Dr. A. Brusch, Bob Beck, Dr. > O'Becker, Weston Price, , Hulda , Rife, Hoxy, > Laetrile, supplements, etc.,) that work much better. > Whether or not you believe I helped this woman in Florida cure her > cancer means nothing to me. And the NIC would be the very last place > I'd ever contact - I'd never do that. But, your cynicism here is well > noted, but annoys me not. For 35 years I've continually run into 99% > of the folks that are non-believers - and full believers in modern > medicine - which I am not. Not that it matters, but I have letters of > testimony from several folks I've worked with who've been victims of > various kinds of cancer and who are now cancer free. The proof is in > the pudding... Yes, some folks I've worked with, 4th stagers after > the doctors gave up and sent them home to die, came to me as a last > resort - and they didn't make it. I'd rather chat with a cancer > victim immediately after diagnosis before they started any treatment. > That's where I've been most effective. Before the oncologists start > their deadly treatments... Tony Snow didn't die from colon cancer. > He hadn't had a colon for over five years. He died from chemotherapy > poisoning. Farrah Fawcett in the beginning had a small tumor in her > anus that could've been treated non-invasively, but as soon as the > oncologist's biopsied it, it spread the cancer throughout her > circulatory and lymph system to every part of her body. At least they > made a lot of money off her over the most miserable years she lived > " doing their best " before she succumbed... > By being an M.D., to me, only means that you've rigorously studied > King Pharma's medical school curriculum's which have been in place > since D. Rockefeller initiated his well paid-off programs for all > hospitals, pharmaceutical companies, doctors and medical schools all > over the world over a 100 years ago when he owned almost all of the > pharmaceutical companies. His grandson, , still owns 85% of them > - in the shadows. And it's grown and gotten worse since then. It's > just another form of brainwashing and propaganda that most folks > believe and swallow with a little Prevacid. Oh, yes, I'd want a good > surgeon if I broke a bone, had a serious wound or had to have my > appendix removed, but not for much else. > Keep up the good work, Dr. Flaig... > > > > On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 7:04 AM, nenah_sylver <nenahsylver@... > > wrote: > > > > [ Flaig] , Just a couple questions for you: > > > 1. How do you know the Blueblood's were the only folks that made > it through the plagues. Were you there? or do you have some data > from a reliable source to support this claim? > > 2. Let's just say your right, then you conclude that this was > because they ate off of silver plates. Gee, in logic we call this > argument -- after the fact, therefore because of it. Logic would > also suggest that there are many other possible factors that could > explain this e.g., they had better food, they, the lived heated > rooms, they drank wine, they had access to medical care, they were > educated, etc. All factors which you have ignored in favor of your > pet theory. If you can eliminate these other factors, then get > back to me. > > Dr. Flaig > PS- And if you cured breast cancer with CS, I'd suggest you > contact NCI because thousands of scientist have been working for > 40 years and apparently they need your help. > > ====================================== > Dr. Flaig: > > I agree with you that the theories about bluebloods in the past > may be just that—theories—and that better living conditions and > better food could certainly help explain why the bluebloods had > lower mortality rates than non-bluebloods during the plague. > > However, this does not negate the value of colloidal silver. Have > you ever tried properly made CS, ionic silver or EIS? What about > all the people who report how much silver has helped them? Would > you discount their reports? If so, why would you discount them? > > I'd also like to point out that the NCI is funded by Big Pharma > and is certainly not interested in non-invasive, non-drug > protocols that cannot be patented, and which are made and > self-administered at home. Your post, whether you meant it to be > or not, can easily be construed as provocative and inflammatory. > > I'm curious: you sign your posts " Dr. Flaig. " What is your area of > expertise and research? > > Sincerely, > Nenah > > Nenah Sylver, PhD > author: The Rife Handbook of Frequency Therapy (2009) > NOW IN HARDCOVER > & The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy > www.nenahsylver.com <http://www.nenahsylver.com> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 Hey You write ... [it may not be part of the human nutritional blueprint, but every cell has silver in it.] So by your thinking ... if it is in cells I need to consume it. WoW ... great discovery. There is also mercury in every cell in my body, so I'll knock up some colliod mercury and consume this daily and get back to you to let you know how I went. Thanks for the great health tip :-) Ken Uzzellhttp://heal-me.com.auHealMe FoundationA New Humanity Associate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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