Guest guest Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 Ten years ago would have been 1997. The hepatitis C virus was not isolated until 1989. Blood was tested for it beginning in 1992. No one had a biopsy for HCV before that time. Colleen Deb wrote: Buddy it's been 10 years since you had a liver bx and with a medical history of HCV for about 30 years and you on tx now ???? Wow I would have pushed for a liver bx much earlier and definitely right before I started tx as a baseline and for stage and grade. A bx is routine usual medical pt guidelines every few years and for starting tx. The medical profession knows or should know now that judging by labs even liver enzyme labs and with scans is in not enough to judge stage and grade. 20% or more with Chronic HCV in advanced and later stages and of liver disease can have normal or near normal labs. A liver bx is still the gold standard the best we got now for staging and combined with all other labs testing and medical history. We don't judge here we all are equal don't care why how or when a member or person contracts Hep C. You mentioned a alcohol problem. What came 1st alcoholic liver disease with damage or Hep C and if so with a weakened immune system and liver damage to set up shop. A liver bx is usually done baseline prior to tx's to ensure a pt is stable enough liver is stable enough and to judge if tx throws a pt in a advanced stage/grade worsening of it all or from compensated cirrhosis to decompensated cirrhosis stages. Much advances medical discoveries and breakthroughs have taken place recently and over the last few years with HCV liver disease and tx's and an ongoing medical research project in the making worldwide. All The Best. Deb ************************************************* I cannot live without books. --- Jefferson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 Actually I had never had a problem with alcoholism and was just an occasional to moderate consumer of beer until about 10 years ago. One day I just decided to stop drinking alcohol and I did. My doctors at Stanford didn't seem to be in any hurry to do another biopsy and neither was the VA prior to this treatment. I really wasn't gonna argue the point since the gastro who did the first one missed my liver twice lol. > > Buddy it's been 10 years since you had a liver bx and with a medical history of HCV for about 30 years and you on tx now ???? > > Wow I would have pushed for a liver bx much earlier and definitely right before I started tx as a baseline and for stage and grade. A bx is routine usual medical pt guidelines every few years and for starting tx. The medical profession knows or should know now that judging by labs even liver enzyme labs and with scans is in not enough to judge stage and grade. > > 20% or more with Chronic HCV in advanced and later stages and of liver disease can have normal or near normal labs. > > A liver bx is still the gold standard the best we got now for staging and combined with all other labs testing and medical history. > > We don't judge here we all are equal don't care why how or when a member or person contracts Hep C. You mentioned a alcohol problem. What came 1st alcoholic liver disease with damage or Hep C and if so with a weakened immune system and liver damage to set up shop. > > A liver bx is usually done baseline prior to tx's to ensure a pt is stable enough liver is stable enough and to judge if tx throws a pt in a advanced stage/grade worsening of it all or from compensated cirrhosis to decompensated cirrhosis stages. > > Much advances medical discoveries and breakthroughs have taken place recently and over the last few years with HCV liver disease and tx's and an ongoing medical research project in the making worldwide. > > All The Best. > > Deb > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 That's right....i was diagnosed about 92-93 and had my biopsy in 96 prior to first treatment with interferon. > Buddy it's been 10 years since you had a liver bx and with a medical history of HCV for about 30 years and you on tx now ???? > > Wow I would have pushed for a liver bx much earlier and definitely right before I started tx as a baseline and for stage and grade. A bx is routine usual medical pt guidelines every few years and for starting tx. The medical profession knows or should know now that judging by labs even liver enzyme labs and with scans is in not enough to judge stage and grade. > > 20% or more with Chronic HCV in advanced and later stages and of liver disease can have normal or near normal labs. > > A liver bx is still the gold standard the best we got now for staging and combined with all other labs testing and medical history. > > We don't judge here we all are equal don't care why how or when a member or person contracts Hep C. You mentioned a alcohol problem. What came 1st alcoholic liver disease with damage or Hep C and if so with a weakened immune system and liver damage to set up shop. > > A liver bx is usually done baseline prior to tx's to ensure a pt is stable enough liver is stable enough and to judge if tx throws a pt in a advanced stage/grade worsening of it all or from compensated cirrhosis to decompensated cirrhosis stages. > > Much advances medical discoveries and breakthroughs have taken place recently and over the last few years with HCV liver disease and tx's and an ongoing medical research project in the making worldwide. > > All The Best. > > Deb > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************* > I cannot live without books. > --- Jefferson > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 The hepatitis C virus was not even isolated and identified until 1989. Colleen gail wrote: Colleen the test to determine Hep C in the blood was 1985 in Canada and the US had the test before that.That is why the Red Cross got sued in Canada for giving us Contaminated blood and I had my first biopsy in 1990.Canada let the blood tests slide until 89 when they were forced to use the new tests. Gail -----Original Message-----From: HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies [mailto:HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies ]On Behalf Of MsTigerHawkSent: September 17, 2007 4:28 PMTo: HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies Subject: Re: Hi Mark Ten years ago would have been 1997. The hepatitis C virus was not isolated until 1989. Blood was tested for it beginning in 1992. No one had a biopsy for HCV before that time. Colleen Deb wrote: Buddy it's been 10 years since you had a liver bx and with a medical history of HCV for about 30 years and you on tx now ???? Wow I would have pushed for a liver bx much earlier and definitely right before I started tx as a baseline and for stage and grade. A bx is routine usual medical pt guidelines every few years and for starting tx. The medical profession knows or should know now that judging by labs even liver enzyme labs and with scans is in not enough to judge stage and grade. 20% or more with Chronic HCV in advanced and later stages and of liver disease can have normal or near normal labs. A liver bx is still the gold standard the best we got now for staging and combined with all other labs testing and medical history. We don't judge here we all are equal don't care why how or when a member or person contracts Hep C. You mentioned a alcohol problem. What came 1st alcoholic liver disease with damage or Hep C and if so with a weakened immune system and liver damage to set up shop. A liver bx is usually done baseline prior to tx's to ensure a pt is stable enough liver is stable enough and to judge if tx throws a pt in a advanced stage/grade worsening of it all or from compensated cirrhosis to decompensated cirrhosis stages. Much advances medical discoveries and breakthroughs have taken place recently and over the last few years with HCV liver disease and tx's and an ongoing medical research project in the making worldwide. All The Best. Deb ************************************************* I cannot live without books. --- Jefferson ************************************************* I cannot live without books. --- Jefferson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 When the virus was isolated or identified is of no importance to me. The fact that I've had it since 1969 is to me so let's let this drop please. SuZieMsTigerHawk wrote: The hepatitis C virus was not even isolated and identified until 1989. Colleen gail <gaila@....ca> wrote: Colleen the test to determine Hep C in the blood was 1985 in Canada and the US had the test before that.That is why the Red Cross got sued in Canada for giving us Contaminated blood and I had my first biopsy in 1990.Canada let the blood tests slide until 89 when they were forced to use the new tests. Gail -----Original Message-----From: HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies [mailto:HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies ]On Behalf Of MsTigerHawkSent: September 17, 2007 4:28 PMTo: HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies Subject: Re: Hi Mark Ten years ago would have been 1997. The hepatitis C virus was not isolated until 1989. Blood was tested for it beginning in 1992. No one had a biopsy for HCV before that time. Colleen Deb <posttransplant> wrote: Buddy it's been 10 years since you had a liver bx and with a medical history of HCV for about 30 years and you on tx now ???? Wow I would have pushed for a liver bx much earlier and definitely right before I started tx as a baseline and for stage and grade. A bx is routine usual medical pt guidelines every few years and for starting tx. The medical profession knows or should know now that judging by labs even liver enzyme labs and with scans is in not enough to judge stage and grade. 20% or more with Chronic HCV in advanced and later stages and of liver disease can have normal or near normal labs. A liver bx is still the gold standard the best we got now for staging and combined with all other labs testing and medical history. We don't judge here we all are equal don't care why how or when a member or person contracts Hep C. You mentioned a alcohol problem. What came 1st alcoholic liver disease with damage or Hep C and if so with a weakened immune system and liver damage to set up shop. A liver bx is usually done baseline prior to tx's to ensure a pt is stable enough liver is stable enough and to judge if tx throws a pt in a advanced stage/grade worsening of it all or from compensated cirrhosis to decompensated cirrhosis stages. Much advances medical discoveries and breakthroughs have taken place recently and over the last few years with HCV liver disease and tx's and an ongoing medical research project in the making worldwide. All The Best. Deb ************************************************* I cannot live without books. --- Jefferson ************************************************* I cannot live without books. --- Jefferson Next time I'm coming back as a cat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 Sorry hon but the red cross in the US idetified it in 85 and sent the information to Canada and Canada figured the test was to expensive and decided not to use it until they were forced to in 89 and many people infected with aids and hep c.I know this because of the tainted blood scandal in Canada and I am one of the victims. -----Original Message-----From: HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies [mailto:HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies ]On Behalf Of MsTigerHawkSent: September 18, 2007 4:29 PMTo: HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies Subject: RE: Hi Mark The hepatitis C virus was not even isolated and identified until 1989. Colleen gail wrote: Colleen the test to determine Hep C in the blood was 1985 in Canada and the US had the test before that.That is why the Red Cross got sued in Canada for giving us Contaminated blood and I had my first biopsy in 1990.Canada let the blood tests slide until 89 when they were forced to use the new tests. Gail -----Original Message-----From: HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies [mailto:HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies ]On Behalf Of MsTigerHawkSent: September 17, 2007 4:28 PMTo: HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies Subject: Re: Hi Mark Ten years ago would have been 1997. The hepatitis C virus was not isolated until 1989. Blood was tested for it beginning in 1992. No one had a biopsy for HCV before that time. Colleen Deb wrote: Buddy it's been 10 years since you had a liver bx and with a medical history of HCV for about 30 years and you on tx now ???? Wow I would have pushed for a liver bx much earlier and definitely right before I started tx as a baseline and for stage and grade. A bx is routine usual medical pt guidelines every few years and for starting tx. The medical profession knows or should know now that judging by labs even liver enzyme labs and with scans is in not enough to judge stage and grade. 20% or more with Chronic HCV in advanced and later stages and of liver disease can have normal or near normal labs. A liver bx is still the gold standard the best we got now for staging and combined with all other labs testing and medical history. We don't judge here we all are equal don't care why how or when a member or person contracts Hep C. You mentioned a alcohol problem. What came 1st alcoholic liver disease with damage or Hep C and if so with a weakened immune system and liver damage to set up shop. A liver bx is usually done baseline prior to tx's to ensure a pt is stable enough liver is stable enough and to judge if tx throws a pt in a advanced stage/grade worsening of it all or from compensated cirrhosis to decompensated cirrhosis stages. Much advances medical discoveries and breakthroughs have taken place recently and over the last few years with HCV liver disease and tx's and an ongoing medical research project in the making worldwide. All The Best. Deb ************************************************* I cannot live without books. --- Jefferson ************************************************* I cannot live without books. --- Jefferson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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