Guest guest Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 We use kuzu around here because my dh thinks arrowroot is worthless. Elainie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 I want to use a starch other than flour for gravy. Has anyone used arrowroot or kudzu? ~ ------------------------------------- I use arrowroot. Can't claim to be an expert though, as I've only made gravy all of twice. First time with spelt flour - lumpy, had to throw it. Second time with arrowroot. Worked well but seemed a bit " clear " . Filippa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 yeah i used arrow root and it kinda came out like clear glue. _____ From: Filippa [mailto:filippa91@...] Sent: Thursday, 20 November 2003 9:29 AM Subject: Re: Using arrowroot in gravy? I want to use a starch other than flour for gravy. Has anyone used arrowroot or kudzu? ~ ------------------------------------- I use arrowroot. Can't claim to be an expert though, as I've only made gravy all of twice. First time with spelt flour - lumpy, had to throw it. Second time with arrowroot. Worked well but seemed a bit " clear " . Filippa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 > I use arrowroot. Can't claim to be an expert though, as I've only > made gravy all of twice. First time with spelt flour - lumpy, had to > throw it. Second time with arrowroot. Worked well but seemed a bit > " clear " . Yeah, arrowroot gives a different texture than either corn starch or flour. Try making a roux with any kind of flour and then just keep whisking in the liquid. Lynn S. ----- Lynn Siprelle * Writer, Mother, Programmer, Fiber Artisan The New Homemaker: http://www.newhomemaker.com/ Siprelle & Associates: http://www.siprelle.com/ People-Powered ! http://www.deanforamerica.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2003 Report Share Posted November 20, 2003 > yeah i used arrow root and it kinda came out like clear glue. I'm not the most patient cook, but I've found that when it comes to cooking gravy, a little patience it needed. If you try to rush the process, it just doesn't come out right. I've used arrowroot and finally have consistent success with it. I even made a white sauce with it and it came out great. At first I thought it was like glue, too. I was using too much of it or not letting it cook long enough to thicken and you really do need to let whatever thickener you're using to cook into the gravy. To make a good gravy, bring the meat juices up to a simmer, remove about a quarter of a cup of the hot juices and put in a small glass. Add about a tablespoon (or less if you're making a small amount of gravy) of arrowroot to the juices in the glass and mix until completely disolved. At this point I usually add a 3-4 tablespoons of sour cream, cream or milk (either works fine). The milk will add some additional creaminess to the gravy. Stir this mixture into the simmering juices and allow to cook while stiring frequently. I like to let mine cook on a low simmer for at least 15-20 minutes, but usually a while longer. It will keep thickening as it cooks and if you want it thicker, just repeat the above steps. Arrowroot does impart a rather translucent quality to the gravy, but I've found that the milk will eliminate this. If you watch Emeril at all, he likes to remind us not to cook at such high heats to speed up the cooking. I found this to be a good tip and makes for better tasting food. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2003 Report Share Posted November 20, 2003 > We use kuzu around here because my dh thinks arrowroot is worthless. > Elainie I've never heard of kuzu. I'll have to do a google and check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2003 Report Share Posted November 20, 2003 >I want to use a starch other than flour for gravy. Has anyone used >arrowroot or kudzu? > >Do you use the same amount arrowroot as you would flour? The gourmet cooks prefer arrowroot, and you use about the same amount. Potato flour and rice flour work good too. All of them " clump " less than wheat flour (I started using them even before I started going on my anti-wheat rampage). Now kudzu ... there's an option! Do they sell kudzu flour? That would be a great business ... -- Heidi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2003 Report Share Posted November 20, 2003 > > > Now kudzu ... there's an option! Do they sell kudzu > flour? That would be a great business ... They do sell kudzu powder, and the last time I checked it was _very_ expensive, which I found strange, because an overgrowth of kudzu has become a big problem in the south (U.S.), and one they're always discussing how to fix. I bet the expensive stuff in the store is imported from Japan while the kudzu in the south is probably being killed with toxic herbicides and hauled away as trash! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2003 Report Share Posted November 20, 2003 >They do sell kudzu powder, and the last time I checked >it was _very_ expensive, which I found strange, because >an overgrowth of kudzu has become a big problem in the >south (U.S.), and one they're always discussing how to >fix. I bet the expensive stuff in the store is imported >from Japan while the kudzu in the south is probably being >killed with toxic herbicides and hauled away as trash! > > How ironic. When they first imported kudzu, they did not figure it would be a problem, because it wasn't a problem in China. In China, everyone harvests it for this and that -- baskets, feeding goats (and sauces????). -- Heidi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2003 Report Share Posted November 21, 2003 Kudzu is a vineing plant that first came from Japan. Here is a link I found on google if you want to find out more. http://www.cptr.ua.edu/kudzu/ Using arrowroot in gravy? >The gourmet cooks prefer arrowroot, and you use about the same amount. Potato flour and rice flour work good too. All of them " clump " less than wheat flour (I started using them even before I started going on my anti-wheat rampage). >Now kudzu ... there's an option! Do they sell kudzu flour? That would be a great business ...-- Heidi Don't know if this helps, but the other day I saw Wolfgang Puck (I hope that's his name) mix some flour and butter together before he put the mixture into his pan to make gravy. He said it makes a gravy with no lumps. And what is kudzu? Never heard of it. Janice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2003 Report Share Posted November 21, 2003 At 11:22 AM 11/21/2003 -0800, you wrote: >Does anyone know of the health benefits of Kudzo compared to other flours? Also, I didn't notice kudzu flour on any of the websites given. Is the consistency better than arrowroot in gravies? Where do you get it? > >Jafa Have heard kudzu vine regulates blood sugar years ago on an herb list. Flour must be from root. Wanita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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