Re: root canal removal-- one down, one to go

[Guest guest]

Jackie,

How old are you? I'm 21, and there are a couple 17 year olds on the list.

All root canaled teeth are peramanently infected. (with possible exceptions

for very new, experimental methods of performing them). One of the most

common side effects of root canals is heart disease. Your tooth doesn't have to

hurt for it to be giving problems.

Just be very thankful you have the abcess flaring up, because that means your

immune system is doing a better job than other people's keeping the infection

in line.

Don't sweat the novacane. It doesn't do anything to you afterwards except

wear off. I've been put under general anesthesia-- that SUCKS and sucks for

HOURS after you wake up. Novacane has no side effects in my experience.

Chris

[Guest guest]

Jackie,

One more thing. Make SURE when you have your tooth removed that the

periodontal ligament is removed and the bone underneath your tooth iis drilled

out

where it is soft so that all the damaged and infected bone is removed and new

bone can grow back.

This is basically never done in tooth extractions but it is ABSOLUTELY 100%

VITAL to a healthy regrowth. Make sure beforehand your dentist is familiar

with this protocol and if he's not make sure he either familiarizes himself or

herself or find a dentist who will.

Chris

[Guest guest]

I am new to this group and have just been lurking since I joined (and

I'm sure I'm the youngest person here!), but this is very

interesting.. I had a root canal done about 2 years ago and had not

been to a dentist after that point until recently, as I wanted to

take my health into my own hands.. which I have learned is not always

a good idea! I haven't had a problem with the tooth except the abcess

actually flares up a little once in awhile, but there is no pain. I

had a consultation with a holistic dentist because I thought I had a

few mercury fillings.. but I didn't. Anyway, I found out there is a

big cyst (!) in the root canal and there is no way to save the tooth,

so I'm getting it pulled next week. It will be interesting to see

what my experience is- I am sure that a " permanently infected " tooth

has a big impact on the immune system and overall health! Could you

post an update if you notice any significant changes? Also, I assume

you used novocaine? How did this affect you afterwards? I haven't

been " drugged " for quite a long time and am not sure how I will be

affected. I'm sure it will be better than without, though

Also could anyone tell me how to change your " name/email " , to be

different from your ID?

Thanks,

Jackie

> I got the first of two root canals removed today. I also got one

wisdom

> teeth removed. I'm have a root canaled tooth on each side of my

lower teeth, and

> I'm also removing all four wisdom teeth, because I have

periodontitis and my

> dentist believes that people who have periodontits need to get

wisdom teeth

> taken out in order to resolve the periodontitis. So my root

canaled tooth came

> out because we believe it is permanently infected, while the wisdom

tooth came

> out just because of the way its affecting the shape of the gum,

basically.

>

> The first dentist I saw about this wasn't the one who did the

extraction.

> Both of them are fantastic. My first appt to talk about the root

canals lasted

> over 2 hours, and I was amazed at the time she was willing to

spend. The

> dentist who did the extraction today was no less accomodating, and

they even had a

> walkman for me to listen to during the extraction!

>

> Anyway, the interesting part is that when the tooth came out, I had

my eyes

> closed as I was just lying back and relaxing while they were doing

whatever

> they were doing. Then, when the tooth came out, the lighting

behind my eyes

> changed and I had this very dramatic experience where the lights

were kind of

> flashing (sort of) and my heart rate sped up astronomically. My

throat also felt

> like it was going to close up, and I almost told him I didn't want

to have the

> wisdom tooth removed because I was afriad it was too much stress on

my body

> at once. When I opened my eyes and took the plastic thing they had

me biting

> on out of my mouth, though, my throat felt better.

>

> What's even more interesting is that when the pulled the wisdom

tooth out

> NOTHING of the sort happened. I had assumed the dramatic reaction

I had was a

> response to the stress of the injury of taking the tooth out. But

since nothing

> happened when they took the wisdom tooth out, maybe it was just my

body

> celebrating to get rid of that nasty infected tooth!

>

> Chris

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/15/03 7:40:07 PM Eastern Standard Time,

filippa91@... writes:

> I'm 21, and there are a couple 17 year olds on the list. - Chris

>

> ===> didn't you just recently say you're thirty? Something about

> staying back in 3rd grade. Now I realise it must have been a joke. ;-)

sorry,

> bit slow - missed it somehow.

>

LOL! Yeah that was a joke. No, I didn't stay back in the third grade nine

times ;-)

Chris

[Guest guest]

I'm 21, and there are a couple 17 year olds on the list. - Chris

===> didn't you just recently say you're thirty? Something about staying

back in 3rd grade. Now I realise it must have been a joke. ;-) sorry, bit

slow - missed it somehow.

Filippa

[Guest guest]

>I got the first of two root canals removed today.

Good luck with this and I'd be interested to know if you perceive any

enhanced health as a result. After I had mine removed, I had a clean

feeling in my mouth that I hadn't had in years (even after

brushing). I felt elated when I had it removed - like having a

weight lifted off of my shoulders. Mine came out super easy.

Best of health.

[Guest guest]

Jackie,

You well may be the youngest on the list. I have no idea, because there's a

good 600 people who never post much ;-)

I would have walked out of the dentist's office immediately when he revealed

his obvious and horrid incompetence in numbing the wrong side of the mouth.

There's no excuse for that whatsoever.

I personally don't think you should have gone to the dentist in the first

place, certainly not one who refuses to follow the proper protocol. The bone

and

ligament is simply not safe to have in your mouth. I highly recommend you

call the Price Pottenger Nutrition Foundation and ask them for a dentist in your

area who follows the root canal removal protocol. Their number can be gotten

from their website, <A

HREF= " www.price-pottenger.org " >www.price-pottenger.org</A> You should call the

dentist

closest to you who follows the procedure and ask them what they recommend doing.

I'm sorry you had such a bad experience. I hope all goes well with your

mouth in the future.

Chris

[Guest guest]

I had the tooth extracted a few hours ago. It wasn't a very pleasant

experience because my holistic dentist doesn't do extractions and had

to send me to someone else. He had given my grandmother a list of

oral surgeons (if I had known, I would have chosen..), and I was not

very confident in the guy. When he came into the room, I asked him

about removing part of the bone. He said " no we won't need to do

that " . Ugh. I figured it was too late at that point to cancel in case

it was as " VITAL " as you said. =) I wasn't feeling very good about

the whole thing at that point. So he opens my mouth and shoots the

novocaine into my gums...... on the WRONG SIDE! I couldn't say

anything when he had the needle in my mouth... so when he was

finished I said " umm... the tooth is on the left side " ... LOL! He

realized he had made a mistake, blaming it on the fact that he didn't

do the X-ray himself and couldn't see it clearly. At this point, I

was very nervous about this guy getting anywhere near my tooth! He

also had not spoken with my dentist (whom I *do* trust). Luckily my

grandmother asked him whether he had, because at this point she was

nervous about the whole thing. He went to call my dentist, and when

he returned he said the only difference was that my dentist didn't

want to put an implant in later (I guess because of the titanium?),

and wanted to use a crown instead. However, " this guy " said he

wouldn't remove any bone in case I wanted to get an implant later.

Argh. Anyway, I was very uncomfortable about the whole thing.. and he

was very rough during the procedure. But within a few minutes he had

my tooth and the cyst out. He had said before that there may not even

be a cyst, it could be a " scar " from a previous cyst.. but it ended

up being a " large " cyst. I can't say I noticed a difference right

after it was removed, I was too busy paying attention to him

rummaging around in the tooth cavity. I do feel pretty good now

(despite my whole mouth being numb) but I can't say whether it is a

result of the cyst being removed, or just relief from being out of

that office =) I'm going to make an appointment with my

*knowledgable* dentist, just to check it out.

Oh, and it seems I was correct about being the youngest on this list!

I'm 16.

Jackie

> Jackie,

>

> How old are you? I'm 21, and there are a couple 17 year olds on

the list.

>

> All root canaled teeth are peramanently infected. (with possible

exceptions

> for very new, experimental methods of performing them). One of

the most

> common side effects of root canals is heart disease. Your tooth

doesn't have to

> hurt for it to be giving problems.

>

> Just be very thankful you have the abcess flaring up, because that

means your

> immune system is doing a better job than other people's keeping the

infection

> in line.

>

> Don't sweat the novacane. It doesn't do anything to you afterwards

except

> wear off. I've been put under general anesthesia-- that SUCKS and

sucks for

> HOURS after you wake up. Novacane has no side effects in my

experience.

>

> Chris

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/22/03 1:54:17 AM Eastern Standard Time,

choose_to_live@... writes:

> By the way, are you going to get implants to replace the extracted

> teeth? Or crowns? I'm just curious as to why my dentist doesn't want

> to use an implant, and assume it is because of the titanium rod.

I'm going to get a bridge. I have a titanium rod inside my other root

canaled tooth, which will be removed in a couple weeks. I would definitely

avoid

any metal in your mouth.

Chris

[Guest guest]

because there's a good 600 people who never post much ;-) ~ Chris

--------------------------------------------------------

And in some ways, thank goodness they don't because it's a real struggle keeping

up!

Filippa

[Guest guest]

Thanks Chris...

I was considering walking out of the office, actually. =)

I didn't know just how important it was to have the bone and ligament

removed, otherwise I would have walked out. I'll see if my current

dentist (who is competent, unlike the oral surgeon!) knows about

this.. otherwise I'll see if I can find someone else in the area. I

would guess that the dentist would be able to easily remove them if I

find someone quickly, before the tissue heals significantly.

Oh well.. I am at least glad to have that nasty cyst out of my mouth

=)

By the way, are you going to get implants to replace the extracted

teeth? Or crowns? I'm just curious as to why my dentist doesn't want

to use an implant, and assume it is because of the titanium rod.

Jackie

> Jackie,

>

> You well may be the youngest on the list. I have no idea, because

there's a

> good 600 people who never post much ;-)

>

> I would have walked out of the dentist's office immediately when he

revealed

> his obvious and horrid incompetence in numbing the wrong side of

the mouth.

> There's no excuse for that whatsoever.

>

> I personally don't think you should have gone to the dentist in the

first

> place, certainly not one who refuses to follow the proper

protocol. The bone and

> ligament is simply not safe to have in your mouth. I highly

recommend you

> call the Price Pottenger Nutrition Foundation and ask them for a

dentist in your

> area who follows the root canal removal protocol. Their number can

be gotten

> from their website, <A HREF= " www.price-pottenger.org " >www.price-

pottenger.org</A> You should call the dentist

> closest to you who follows the procedure and ask them what they

recommend doing.

>

> I'm sorry you had such a bad experience. I hope all goes well with

your

> mouth in the future.

>

> Chris

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks =)

> In a message dated 11/22/03 1:54:17 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> choose_to_live@y... writes:

>

> > By the way, are you going to get implants to replace the

extracted

> > teeth? Or crowns? I'm just curious as to why my dentist doesn't

want

> > to use an implant, and assume it is because of the titanium rod.

>

> I'm going to get a bridge. I have a titanium rod inside my other

root

> canaled tooth, which will be removed in a couple weeks. I would

definitely avoid

> any metal in your mouth.

>

> Chris

>

>

>