Re: Re:Bureaucratic problems getting my cheesemaker's license...

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Maybe you have an attorney in the family, and that would possibly solve your dilemma, but I'd point out that the biodynamic farmer in Canada won his case after dumping the lawyers and doing his own casework. The young fellow with the food club is also getting through the bureaucratic traps mostly on his own, granted they both appear to have good support at home so that could be a determining factor in your own calculation of resources. And of course, they have support from this group and its various orgs, which is likely what you are hoping to canvas among locals and resource people, maybe even a lawyer among them. So what's the tally? How many others are there who have decided to do their own law-pleading and are making progress? We suspect you will not thrive any other way, for whatever reason, if you cave either -- as Jojo vividly describes.Best wishes from us, down in OH, who unfortunately are not lawyers but have experimented in courtroom difficulties when we were not guilty of breaking any law and found out just how evil the establishment and the brain-dead McCarthyite public used to be. We felt we made better progress when we were doing our own representations. Nothing's perfect, patch together what you can and scope out where the evil players reside and get help elsewhere. We have the impression that there are improvements in some spines in the establishment that may be enlisted to some degree based on our recent encounters, but we're not in WI so we don't know who might serve. TTYLMJ Re:Bureaucratic problems getting my cheesemaker's license...

Hire an attorney and sue them. They are using coercive measures to illegally redefine an existing law and force you into compliance. I think signing under duress is like making a pact with the devil. You get short-term relief but you have sold your soul to the police state. They've got you by the short hairs. You went through all the trouble to learn cheesemaking, just through all their hoops, and now they're preventing you from doing something that is currently legal by reinterpreting the law. This just STINKS.Joannewww.joanneunleashed.comOn Aug 3, 2010, at 3:26 AM, rawDairy wrote:So this is my dilemna -- do I continue to fight and protest the unfairexclusion of farmstead producers from making cheese (like they have beenexcluded from the fluid milk market) and not get a cheesemaker's license, ordo I cave to DATCP food safety and sign the false legal language, thusgetting my cheesemaker's license?