Re: Probiotics and Digestive Enzymes - Please read!

May 30, 2011

not everyone though who takes antibiotics will necessarily lose good, or even

bad, bacteria so some caution is needed. With so many of those on here seemingly

so allergic to something " digested " it would be dangerous to assume because it

seems to be natural it is ultimately safe. Enzymes and proteins are two things

to actually lead to many an allergic reaction. And probiotics are not subject

to drug regulations like medicines are. Yogurt would usually be a safe healthy

bet to replace the missing flora.

Personally I have had many many an antibiotic in my 44 years and I have a wide

variety since I am not allergic to any and no stomach issues on any of

them.....lucky? Yeah probably, but if I ran to probiotics I would have wasted my

money.

44 yo male PA-C with 6 kids and one on the way and 21st anniversary today! With

PA and hyperthyroidism. Many years of critical HTN went undiagnose(average was

160/110 with usual of 160/120) until spiro and now 130/80

>Hello everyone,

>

>I wanted to throw in what I know about probiotics and digestive enzymes after

reading the emails back and forth from folks. Take it as you would like as I no

expert. This is just from my own experience.

>

>Probiotics:

>Everyone should take probiotics after having taking any antibiotics (including

babies and children). Probiotics are just replacing the natural bacteria that

are present in your GI tract (I think mostly intestines). A lot of times

antibiotics knock out the good bacteria and if you don't replace them, the bad

ones can move right on in. My GI doc had me take antibiotics that specifically

killed everything in my intestinal tract. I had explicit instructions to take

probiotics for THREE months after finishing the antibiotics. You want to find

ones that have as many bacterial strands as possible (I am taking one that has

10 strains and another that has 14 to give you an idea of what you can find).

You also want to try to find ones that have at least 20 billion bacteria in a

dose. I am taking 70 billion a day after the " big flush. "

>

>Probiotics are almost always refrigerated to keep the cultures alive and are

OTC. I would buy them from a reputable store....health food stores like Vitamin

Cottage, Whole Foods, Pharmica..... They are expensive so that is a serious

drawback but I feel it is worth giving them a try if you are having digestion

issues. I think they are a necessity after antibiotics. A three month course

is a very long one and I think that a couple of weeks is more normal after

having antibiotics. Remember not to take them while on antibiotics as the meds

would just kill them...so it is a waste.

>

>Digestive Enzymes:

>I took digestive enzymes for a long time to be able to eat. I had a special

little pill container on my keychain so that if I was out, I always had some

with me. No pill = no food for me. My understanding is that the digestive

enzymes are more targeted to what happens in your stomach. You can get enzymes

for specific food items (milk, sugar....). Personally, I was really irritated

when my doc told me just to take the enzymes when I was trying to figure out my

digestion issues. Not a solution but something that might allow life to be a

little more bearable. These were a long term thing vs. the probiotics that only

need to be taken long enough to replenish what should be in your body.

>

>Here is to happy tummies and intestines. May they all be bloat free.

>

>Cheers,

>

May 31, 2011

I agree with on this. It is usually only people who are on many antibiotics long term and who have some kind of debility or problem with their immune system who will have the bacteria in their GI tract wiped out. It can be a serious and life threatning occurance. But it will never happen to the vast majority of healthy people. There are very few scientific studies on probiotics. I did read one that said they seemed to help in IBS. But another study showed that placebos help in IBS, so I'm not putting much faith in that one. If you believe in things like probiotics you'd probably be just as well off buying some yogurt with active cultures. It would be easier on your wallet too, probiotics are OTC and can be quite expensive.

Just my opinion,

a

Subject: Probiotics and Digestive Enzymes - Please read!To: hyperaldosteronism Date: Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 12:43 AM

Hello everyone,I wanted to throw in what I know about probiotics and digestive enzymes after reading the emails back and forth from folks. Take it as you would like as I no expert. This is just from my own experience. Probiotics:Everyone should take probiotics after having taking any antibiotics (including babies and children). Probiotics are just replacing the natural bacteria that are present in your GI tract (I think mostly intestines). A lot of times antibiotics knock out the good bacteria and if you don't replace them, the bad ones can move right on in. My GI doc had me take antibiotics that specifically killed everything in my intestinal tract. I had explicit instructions to take probiotics for THREE months after finishing the antibiotics. You want to find ones that have as many bacterial strands as possible (I am taking one that has 10 strains and another that

has 14 to give you an idea of what you can find). You also want to try to find ones that have at least 20 billion bacteria in a dose. I am taking 70 billion a day after the "big flush." Probiotics are almost always refrigerated to keep the cultures alive and are OTC. I would buy them from a reputable store....health food stores like Vitamin Cottage, Whole Foods, Pharmica..... They are expensive so that is a serious drawback but I feel it is worth giving them a try if you are having digestion issues. I think they are a necessity after antibiotics. A three month course is a very long one and I think that a couple of weeks is more normal after having antibiotics. Remember not to take them while on antibiotics as the meds would just kill them...so it is a waste. Digestive Enzymes:I took digestive enzymes for a long time to be able to eat. I had a special little pill container on

my keychain so that if I was out, I always had some with me. No pill = no food for me. My understanding is that the digestive enzymes are more targeted to what happens in your stomach. You can get enzymes for specific food items (milk, sugar....). Personally, I was really irritated when my doc told me just to take the enzymes when I was trying to figure out my digestion issues. Not a solution but something that might allow life to be a little more bearable. These were a long term thing vs. the probiotics that only need to be taken long enough to replenish what should be in your body. Here is to happy tummies and intestines. May they all be bloat free. Cheers, ------------------------------------

May 31, 2011

As I recall a works in a GI Clinic and likely has a lot of insight and experience with these issues.CE Grim MDI agree with on this. It is usually only people who are on many antibiotics long term and who have some kind of debility or problem with their immune system who will have the bacteria in their GI tract wiped out. It can be a serious and life threatning occurance. But it will never happen to the vast majority of healthy people. There are very few scientific studies on probiotics. I did read one that said they seemed to help in IBS. But another study showed that placebos help in IBS, so I'm not putting much faith in that one. If you believe in things like probiotics you'd probably be just as well off buying some yogurt with active cultures. It would be easier on your wallet too, probiotics are OTC and can be quite expensive. Just my opinion,aSubject: Probiotics and Digestive Enzymes - Please read!To: hyperaldosteronism Date: Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 12:43 AMHello everyone,I wanted to throw in what I know about probiotics and digestive enzymes after reading the emails back and forth from folks. Take it as you would like as I no expert. This is just from my own experience. Probiotics:Everyone should take probiotics after having taking any antibiotics (including babies and children). Probiotics are just replacing the natural bacteria that are present in your GI tract (I think mostly intestines). A lot of times antibiotics knock out the good bacteria and if you don't replace them, the bad ones can move right on in. My GI doc had me take antibiotics that specifically killed everything in my intestinal tract. I had explicit instructions to take probiotics for THREE months after finishing the antibiotics. You want to find ones that have as many bacterial strands as possible (I am taking one that has 10 strains and another that has 14 to give you an idea of what you can find). You also want to try to find ones that have at least 20 billion bacteria in a dose. I am taking 70 billion a day after the "big flush." Probiotics are almost always refrigerated to keep the cultures alive and are OTC. I would buy them from a reputable store....health food stores like Vitamin Cottage, Whole Foods, Pharmica..... They are expensive so that is a serious drawback but I feel it is worth giving them a try if you are having digestion issues. I think they are a necessity after antibiotics. A three month course is a very long one and I think that a couple of weeks is more normal after having antibiotics. Remember not to take them while on antibiotics as the meds would just kill them...so it is a waste. Digestive Enzymes:I took digestive enzymes for a long time to be able to eat. I had a special little pill container on my keychain so that if I was out, I always had some with me. No pill = no food for me. My understanding is that the digestive enzymes are more targeted to what happens in your stomach. You can get enzymes for specific food items (milk, sugar....). Personally, I was really irritated when my doc told me just to take the enzymes when I was trying to figure out my digestion issues. Not a solution but something that might allow life to be a little more bearable. These were a long term thing vs. the probiotics that only need to be taken long enough to replenish what should be in your body. Here is to happy tummies and intestines. May they all be bloat free. Cheers, ------------------------------------

May 31, 2011

Hi All,

Your message makes sense and I believe since I don't suffer from

stomach issues until now my issue is related to antibiotics. Dose

#1 was due to a sinus infection - Dose 2,3 and 4 were from an

infection resulting from my ablasion. In my case the align

probiotic has cut my bathroom trips from around 15 times a day to 1

or 2. I feel like a new person again.

MS asked last week if they were prescribed or OTC. and a

answered that question plus I saw a commercial for it over the

weekend.

Thanks

Kellie

As I recall a works in a GI Clinic and likely has a

lot of insight and experience with these issues.

CE Grim MD

I agree with on this. It

is usually only people who are on

many antibiotics long term and who

have some kind of debility or

problem with their immune system

who will have the bacteria in

their GI tract wiped out. It can

be a serious and life threatning

occurance. But it will never

happen to the vast majority of

healthy people. There are very

few scientific studies on

probiotics. I did read one that

said they seemed to help in IBS.

But another study showed that

placebos help in IBS, so I'm not

putting much faith in that one.

If you believe in things like

probiotics you'd probably be just

as well off buying some yogurt

with active cultures. It would be

easier on your wallet too,

probiotics are OTC and can be

quite expensive.

Just my opinion,

a

--- On Tue,

5/31/11, andra Bradley wrote:

Subject:

Probiotics and Digestive Enzymes -

Please read!

To: hyperaldosteronism

Date: Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 12:43

AM

Hello

everyone,

I wanted to throw in what I know

about probiotics and digestive

enzymes after reading the emails

back and forth from folks. Take

it as you would like as I no

expert. This is just from my

own experience.

Probiotics:

Everyone should take probiotics

after having taking any

antibiotics (including babies

and children). Probiotics are

just replacing the natural

bacteria that are present in

your GI tract (I think mostly

intestines). A lot of times

antibiotics knock out the good

bacteria and if you don't

replace them, the bad ones can

move right on in. My GI doc had

me take antibiotics that

specifically killed everything

in my intestinal tract. I had

explicit instructions to take

probiotics for THREE months

after finishing the

antibiotics. You want to find

ones that have as many bacterial

strands as possible (I am taking

one that has 10 strains and

another that has 14 to give you

an idea of what you can find).

You also want to try to find

ones that have at least 20

billion bacteria in a dose. I

am taking 70 billion a day after

the "big flush."

Probiotics are almost always

refrigerated to keep the

cultures alive and are OTC. I

would buy them from a reputable

store....health food stores like

Vitamin Cottage, Whole Foods,

Pharmica..... They are

expensive so that is a serious

drawback but I feel it is worth

giving them a try if you are

having digestion issues. I

think they are a necessity after

antibiotics. A three month

course is a very long one and I

think that a couple of weeks is

more normal after having

antibiotics. Remember not to

take them while on antibiotics

as the meds would just kill

them...so it is a waste.

Digestive Enzymes:

I took digestive enzymes for a

long time to be able to eat. I

had a special little pill

container on my keychain so that

if I was out, I always had some

with me. No pill = no food for

me. My understanding is that

the digestive enzymes are more

targeted to what happens in your

stomach. You can get enzymes

for specific food items (milk,

sugar....). Personally, I was

really irritated when my doc

told me just to take the enzymes

when I was trying to figure out

my digestion issues. Not a

solution but something that

might allow life to be a little

more bearable. These were a

long term thing vs. the

probiotics that only need to be

taken long enough to replenish

what should be in your body.

Here is to happy tummies and

intestines. May they all be

bloat free.

Cheers,

------------------------------------

May 31, 2011

From What I have seem low K can cause GI problems. I also think in PA the amount

of salt one eats changes fluid balance in GI track.

> >

> > Subject: Probiotics and Digestive Enzymes -

> > Please read!

> > To: hyperaldosteronism

> > Date: Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 12:43 AM

> >

> > Hello everyone,

> >

> > I wanted to throw in what I know about probiotics and digestive

> > enzymes after reading the emails back and forth from folks. Take it

> > as you would like as I no expert. This is just from my own

> > experience.

> >

> > Probiotics:

> > Everyone should take probiotics after having taking any antibiotics

> > (including babies and children). Probiotics are just replacing the

> > natural bacteria that are present in your GI tract (I think mostly

> > intestines). A lot of times antibiotics knock out the good bacteria

> > and if you don't replace them, the bad ones can move right on in.

> > My GI doc had me take antibiotics that specifically killed

> > everything in my intestinal tract. I had explicit instructions to

> > take probiotics for THREE months after finishing the antibiotics.

> > You want to find ones that have as many bacterial strands as

> > possible (I am taking one that has 10 strains and another that has

> > 14 to give you an idea of what you can find). You also want to try

> > to find ones that have at least 20 billion bacteria in a dose. I am

> > taking 70 billion a day after the " big flush. "

> >

> > Probiotics are almost always refrigerated to keep the cultures alive

> > and are OTC. I would buy them from a reputable store....health food

> > stores like Vitamin Cottage, Whole Foods, Pharmica..... They are

> > expensive so that is a serious drawback but I feel it is worth

> > giving them a try if you are having digestion issues. I think they

> > are a necessity after antibiotics. A three month course is a very

> > long one and I think that a couple of weeks is more normal after

> > having antibiotics. Remember not to take them while on antibiotics

> > as the meds would just kill them...so it is a waste.

> >

> > Digestive Enzymes:

> > I took digestive enzymes for a long time to be able to eat. I had a

> > special little pill container on my keychain so that if I was out, I

> > always had some with me. No pill = no food for me. My

> > understanding is that the digestive enzymes are more targeted to

> > what happens in your stomach. You can get enzymes for specific food

> > items (milk, sugar....). Personally, I was really irritated when my

> > doc told me just to take the enzymes when I was trying to figure out

> > my digestion issues. Not a solution but something that might allow

> > life to be a little more bearable. These were a long term thing vs.

> > the probiotics that only need to be taken long enough to replenish

> > what should be in your body.

> >

> > Here is to happy tummies and intestines. May they all be bloat free.

> >

> > Cheers,

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

May 31, 2011

I am one that now seems to have a problem with antibiotics and bathroom trips.

So now I eat yogurt every time I get antibiotics. Seems to help.

> >>

> >> From: andra Bradley <alex.southpole@...

> >> >

> >> Subject: Probiotics and Digestive Enzymes -

> >> Please read!

> >> To:hyperaldosteronism

> >> <mailto:hyperaldosteronism >

> >> Date: Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 12:43 AM

> >>

> >> Hello everyone,

> >>

> >> I wanted to throw in what I know about probiotics and digestive

> >> enzymes after reading the emails back and forth from folks. Take

> >> it as you would like as I no expert. This is just from my own

> >> experience.

> >>

> >> Probiotics:

> >> Everyone should take probiotics after having taking any

> >> antibiotics (including babies and children). Probiotics are just

> >> replacing the natural bacteria that are present in your GI tract

> >> (I think mostly intestines). A lot of times antibiotics knock

> >> out the good bacteria and if you don't replace them, the bad ones

> >> can move right on in. My GI doc had me take antibiotics that

> >> specifically killed everything in my intestinal tract. I had

> >> explicit instructions to take probiotics for THREE months after

> >> finishing the antibiotics. You want to find ones that have as

> >> many bacterial strands as possible (I am taking one that has 10

> >> strains and another that has 14 to give you an idea of what you

> >> can find). You also want to try to find ones that have at least

> >> 20 billion bacteria in a dose. I am taking 70 billion a day

> >> after the " big flush. "

> >>

> >> Probiotics are almost always refrigerated to keep the cultures

> >> alive and are OTC. I would buy them from a reputable

> >> store....health food stores like Vitamin Cottage, Whole Foods,

> >> Pharmica..... They are expensive so that is a serious drawback

> >> but I feel it is worth giving them a try if you are having

> >> digestion issues. I think they are a necessity after

> >> antibiotics. A three month course is a very long one and I think

> >> that a couple of weeks is more normal after having antibiotics.

> >> Remember not to take them while on antibiotics as the meds would

> >> just kill them...so it is a waste.

> >>

> >> Digestive Enzymes:

> >> I took digestive enzymes for a long time to be able to eat. I

> >> had a special little pill container on my keychain so that if I

> >> was out, I always had some with me. No pill = no food for me.

> >> My understanding is that the digestive enzymes are more targeted

> >> to what happens in your stomach. You can get enzymes for

> >> specific food items (milk, sugar....). Personally, I was really

> >> irritated when my doc told me just to take the enzymes when I was

> >> trying to figure out my digestion issues. Not a solution but

> >> something that might allow life to be a little more bearable.

> >> These were a long term thing vs. the probiotics that only need to

> >> be taken long enough to replenish what should be in your body.

> >>

> >> Here is to happy tummies and intestines. May they all be bloat

> >> free.

> >>

> >> Cheers,

> >>

> >> ------------------------------------

> >>

May 31, 2011

Congratulations on your anniversary and my sympathies to your wife! ;>)

>

> >Hello everyone,

> >

> >I wanted to throw in what I know about probiotics and digestive enzymes after

reading the emails back and forth from folks. Take it as you would like as I no

expert. This is just from my own experience.

> >

> >Probiotics:

> >Everyone should take probiotics after having taking any antibiotics

(including babies and children). Probiotics are just replacing the natural

bacteria that are present in your GI tract (I think mostly intestines). A lot

of times antibiotics knock out the good bacteria and if you don't replace them,

the bad ones can move right on in. My GI doc had me take antibiotics that

specifically killed everything in my intestinal tract. I had explicit

instructions to take probiotics for THREE months after finishing the

antibiotics. You want to find ones that have as many bacterial strands as

possible (I am taking one that has 10 strains and another that has 14 to give

you an idea of what you can find). You also want to try to find ones that have

at least 20 billion bacteria in a dose. I am taking 70 billion a day after the

" big flush. "

> >

> >Probiotics are almost always refrigerated to keep the cultures alive and are

OTC. I would buy them from a reputable store....health food stores like Vitamin

Cottage, Whole Foods, Pharmica..... They are expensive so that is a serious

drawback but I feel it is worth giving them a try if you are having digestion

issues. I think they are a necessity after antibiotics. A three month course

is a very long one and I think that a couple of weeks is more normal after

having antibiotics. Remember not to take them while on antibiotics as the meds

would just kill them...so it is a waste.

> >

> >Digestive Enzymes:

> >I took digestive enzymes for a long time to be able to eat. I had a special