Guest guest Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 Can you or Dr. Grim elaborate on this at all? My internist and I were just talking about this last week. I came to the conclusion that my GI issues tend to surface when my trapezius muscle cramps up - so I asked him if low K can cause smooth muscle cramps too, e.g. the GI tract. He didn't know for certain but thought that my theory sounded plausible. And yes, dietary sodium will set my GI symptoms off something fierce! - msmith1928 45, nulliparous female, 5'3 " , 120 lbs, 1cm left adrenal nodule, supine aldosterone 28.5/renin 0.2, potassium <2.9 (when not taking supplements); 25mg spiro caused gynecomastia; no HTN meds; current meds are 20MEQ K 3x/day, singulair 10mg, norethindrone .35mg, cyclobenzaprine 5-10mg when needed, fexofenadine 180mg when needed; low sodium, fructose- and grain-free diet; known drug allergies include PCN, sulfa, tetracycline > > > > > > From: andra Bradley <alex.southpole@> > > > Subject: Probiotics and Digestive Enzymes - > > > Please read! > > > To: hyperaldosteronism > > > Date: Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 12:43 AM > > > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > > > I wanted to throw in what I know about probiotics and digestive > > > enzymes after reading the emails back and forth from folks. Take it > > > as you would like as I no expert. This is just from my own > > > experience. > > > > > > Probiotics: > > > Everyone should take probiotics after having taking any antibiotics > > > (including babies and children). Probiotics are just replacing the > > > natural bacteria that are present in your GI tract (I think mostly > > > intestines). A lot of times antibiotics knock out the good bacteria > > > and if you don't replace them, the bad ones can move right on in. > > > My GI doc had me take antibiotics that specifically killed > > > everything in my intestinal tract. I had explicit instructions to > > > take probiotics for THREE months after finishing the antibiotics. > > > You want to find ones that have as many bacterial strands as > > > possible (I am taking one that has 10 strains and another that has > > > 14 to give you an idea of what you can find). You also want to try > > > to find ones that have at least 20 billion bacteria in a dose. I am > > > taking 70 billion a day after the " big flush. " > > > > > > Probiotics are almost always refrigerated to keep the cultures alive > > > and are OTC. I would buy them from a reputable store....health food > > > stores like Vitamin Cottage, Whole Foods, Pharmica..... They are > > > expensive so that is a serious drawback but I feel it is worth > > > giving them a try if you are having digestion issues. I think they > > > are a necessity after antibiotics. A three month course is a very > > > long one and I think that a couple of weeks is more normal after > > > having antibiotics. Remember not to take them while on antibiotics > > > as the meds would just kill them...so it is a waste. > > > > > > Digestive Enzymes: > > > I took digestive enzymes for a long time to be able to eat. I had a > > > special little pill container on my keychain so that if I was out, I > > > always had some with me. No pill = no food for me. My > > > understanding is that the digestive enzymes are more targeted to > > > what happens in your stomach. You can get enzymes for specific food > > > items (milk, sugar....). Personally, I was really irritated when my > > > doc told me just to take the enzymes when I was trying to figure out > > > my digestion issues. Not a solution but something that might allow > > > life to be a little more bearable. These were a long term thing vs. > > > the probiotics that only need to be taken long enough to replenish > > > what should be in your body. > > > > > > > > > Here is to happy tummies and intestines. May they all be bloat free. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 From this site http://www.emedicinehealth.com/low_potassium/page3_em.htm Low Potassium Symptoms Usually symptoms of low potassium are mild. At times the effects of low potassium can be vague. There may be more than one symptom involving the gastrointestinal (GI) tract, kidneys, muscles, heart, and nerves. •Weakness, tiredness, or cramping in arm or leg muscles, sometimes severe enough to cause inability to move arms or legs due to weakness (much like a paralysis) •Tingling or numbness •Nausea or vomiting •Abdominal cramping, bloating •Constipation •Palpitations (feeling your heart beat irregularly) •Passing large amounts of urine or feeling very thirsty most of the time •Fainting due to low blood pressure •Abnormal psychological behavior: depression, psychosis, delirium, confusion, or hallucinations > > > > > > > > From: andra Bradley <alex.southpole@> > > > > Subject: Probiotics and Digestive Enzymes - > > > > Please read! > > > > To: hyperaldosteronism > > > > Date: Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 12:43 AM > > > > > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > > > > > I wanted to throw in what I know about probiotics and digestive > > > > enzymes after reading the emails back and forth from folks. Take it > > > > as you would like as I no expert. This is just from my own > > > > experience. > > > > > > > > Probiotics: > > > > Everyone should take probiotics after having taking any antibiotics > > > > (including babies and children). Probiotics are just replacing the > > > > natural bacteria that are present in your GI tract (I think mostly > > > > intestines). A lot of times antibiotics knock out the good bacteria > > > > and if you don't replace them, the bad ones can move right on in. > > > > My GI doc had me take antibiotics that specifically killed > > > > everything in my intestinal tract. I had explicit instructions to > > > > take probiotics for THREE months after finishing the antibiotics. > > > > You want to find ones that have as many bacterial strands as > > > > possible (I am taking one that has 10 strains and another that has > > > > 14 to give you an idea of what you can find). You also want to try > > > > to find ones that have at least 20 billion bacteria in a dose. I am > > > > taking 70 billion a day after the " big flush. " > > > > > > > > Probiotics are almost always refrigerated to keep the cultures alive > > > > and are OTC. I would buy them from a reputable store....health food > > > > stores like Vitamin Cottage, Whole Foods, Pharmica..... They are > > > > expensive so that is a serious drawback but I feel it is worth > > > > giving them a try if you are having digestion issues. I think they > > > > are a necessity after antibiotics. A three month course is a very > > > > long one and I think that a couple of weeks is more normal after > > > > having antibiotics. Remember not to take them while on antibiotics > > > > as the meds would just kill them...so it is a waste. > > > > > > > > Digestive Enzymes: > > > > I took digestive enzymes for a long time to be able to eat. I had a > > > > special little pill container on my keychain so that if I was out, I > > > > always had some with me. No pill = no food for me. My > > > > understanding is that the digestive enzymes are more targeted to > > > > what happens in your stomach. You can get enzymes for specific food > > > > items (milk, sugar....). Personally, I was really irritated when my > > > > doc told me just to take the enzymes when I was trying to figure out > > > > my digestion issues. Not a solution but something that might allow > > > > life to be a little more bearable. These were a long term thing vs. > > > > the probiotics that only need to be taken long enough to replenish > > > > what should be in your body. > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is to happy tummies and intestines. May they all be bloat free. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 Thanks for that! Yep, pretty much describes exactly what I go through every few days. Now to find a way to make it stop... - msmith1928 45, nulliparous female, 5'3 " , 120 lbs, 1cm left adrenal nodule, supine aldosterone 28.5/renin 0.2, potassium <2.9 (when not taking supplements); 25mg spiro caused gynecomastia; no HTN meds; current meds are 20MEQ K 3x/day, singulair 10mg, norethindrone .35mg, cyclobenzaprine 5-10mg when needed, fexofenadine 180mg when needed; low sodium, fructose- and grain-free diet; known drug allergies include PCN, sulfa, tetracycline > > > > > > > > > > From: andra Bradley <alex.southpole@> > > > > > Subject: Probiotics and Digestive Enzymes - > > > > > Please read! > > > > > To: hyperaldosteronism > > > > > Date: Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 12:43 AM > > > > > > > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > > > > > > > I wanted to throw in what I know about probiotics and digestive > > > > > enzymes after reading the emails back and forth from folks. Take it > > > > > as you would like as I no expert. This is just from my own > > > > > experience. > > > > > > > > > > Probiotics: > > > > > Everyone should take probiotics after having taking any antibiotics > > > > > (including babies and children). Probiotics are just replacing the > > > > > natural bacteria that are present in your GI tract (I think mostly > > > > > intestines). A lot of times antibiotics knock out the good bacteria > > > > > and if you don't replace them, the bad ones can move right on in. > > > > > My GI doc had me take antibiotics that specifically killed > > > > > everything in my intestinal tract. I had explicit instructions to > > > > > take probiotics for THREE months after finishing the antibiotics. > > > > > You want to find ones that have as many bacterial strands as > > > > > possible (I am taking one that has 10 strains and another that has > > > > > 14 to give you an idea of what you can find). You also want to try > > > > > to find ones that have at least 20 billion bacteria in a dose. I am > > > > > taking 70 billion a day after the " big flush. " > > > > > > > > > > Probiotics are almost always refrigerated to keep the cultures alive > > > > > and are OTC. I would buy them from a reputable store....health food > > > > > stores like Vitamin Cottage, Whole Foods, Pharmica..... They are > > > > > expensive so that is a serious drawback but I feel it is worth > > > > > giving them a try if you are having digestion issues. I think they > > > > > are a necessity after antibiotics. A three month course is a very > > > > > long one and I think that a couple of weeks is more normal after > > > > > having antibiotics. Remember not to take them while on antibiotics > > > > > as the meds would just kill them...so it is a waste. > > > > > > > > > > Digestive Enzymes: > > > > > I took digestive enzymes for a long time to be able to eat. I had a > > > > > special little pill container on my keychain so that if I was out, I > > > > > always had some with me. No pill = no food for me. My > > > > > understanding is that the digestive enzymes are more targeted to > > > > > what happens in your stomach. You can get enzymes for specific food > > > > > items (milk, sugar....). Personally, I was really irritated when my > > > > > doc told me just to take the enzymes when I was trying to figure out > > > > > my digestion issues. Not a solution but something that might allow > > > > > life to be a little more bearable. These were a long term thing vs. > > > > > the probiotics that only need to be taken long enough to replenish > > > > > what should be in your body. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is to happy tummies and intestines. May they all be bloat free. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 Probably going to have to make your own high K juice. > > > > > > > > > > > > From: andra Bradley <alex.southpole@> > > > > > > Subject: Probiotics and Digestive Enzymes - > > > > > > Please read! > > > > > > To: hyperaldosteronism > > > > > > Date: Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 12:43 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > > > > > > > > > I wanted to throw in what I know about probiotics and digestive > > > > > > enzymes after reading the emails back and forth from folks. Take it > > > > > > as you would like as I no expert. This is just from my own > > > > > > experience. > > > > > > > > > > > > Probiotics: > > > > > > Everyone should take probiotics after having taking any antibiotics > > > > > > (including babies and children). Probiotics are just replacing the > > > > > > natural bacteria that are present in your GI tract (I think mostly > > > > > > intestines). A lot of times antibiotics knock out the good bacteria > > > > > > and if you don't replace them, the bad ones can move right on in. > > > > > > My GI doc had me take antibiotics that specifically killed > > > > > > everything in my intestinal tract. I had explicit instructions to > > > > > > take probiotics for THREE months after finishing the antibiotics. > > > > > > You want to find ones that have as many bacterial strands as > > > > > > possible (I am taking one that has 10 strains and another that has > > > > > > 14 to give you an idea of what you can find). You also want to try > > > > > > to find ones that have at least 20 billion bacteria in a dose. I am > > > > > > taking 70 billion a day after the " big flush. " > > > > > > > > > > > > Probiotics are almost always refrigerated to keep the cultures alive > > > > > > and are OTC. I would buy them from a reputable store....health food > > > > > > stores like Vitamin Cottage, Whole Foods, Pharmica..... They are > > > > > > expensive so that is a serious drawback but I feel it is worth > > > > > > giving them a try if you are having digestion issues. I think they > > > > > > are a necessity after antibiotics. A three month course is a very > > > > > > long one and I think that a couple of weeks is more normal after > > > > > > having antibiotics. Remember not to take them while on antibiotics > > > > > > as the meds would just kill them...so it is a waste. > > > > > > > > > > > > Digestive Enzymes: > > > > > > I took digestive enzymes for a long time to be able to eat. I had a > > > > > > special little pill container on my keychain so that if I was out, I > > > > > > always had some with me. No pill = no food for me. My > > > > > > understanding is that the digestive enzymes are more targeted to > > > > > > what happens in your stomach. You can get enzymes for specific food > > > > > > items (milk, sugar....). Personally, I was really irritated when my > > > > > > doc told me just to take the enzymes when I was trying to figure out > > > > > > my digestion issues. Not a solution but something that might allow > > > > > > life to be a little more bearable. These were a long term thing vs. > > > > > > the probiotics that only need to be taken long enough to replenish > > > > > > what should be in your body. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is to happy tummies and intestines. May they all be bloat free. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 What about dissolving a prescription Potassium Chloride pill in hot tea or something? Does that make it easier to tolerate on the gut? ============================================================================45-Male-Caucasian, 5'9"- 234lbs, PA Diagnosed 2007 Suspected Hyperplasia-No tumors on CT - No AVS.Meds: 50mg Spiro, 1200mg Calcium, 500mg Magnesium, 100,000UI Vit D (weekly), 20mg OmeprazoleSide effects: Gynecomastia, stomach inflammationOther Diags: GERD, Hiatal Hernia, Metabolic Syndrome - PreDiabetic, Secondary Hyperparathyroidism caused by Renal calcium leak, Bone Cyct in left Femoral Head and Pelvis. Benign Lung Nodules, Fibromyalgia, Scarring on Right Kidney Lower PoleDASH: Started DASHing 5/3/2011To: hyperaldosteronism Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 4:09 PMSubject: Re: low K and digestive issues Probably going to have to make your own high K juice. > > > > > > > > > > > > From: andra Bradley <alex.southpole@> > > > > > > Subject: Probiotics and Digestive Enzymes - > > > > > > Please read! > > > > > > To: hyperaldosteronism > > > > > > Date: Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 12:43 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > > > > > > > > > I wanted to throw in what I know about probiotics and digestive > > > > > > enzymes after reading the emails back and forth from folks. Take it > > > > > > as you would like as I no expert. This is just from my own > > > > > > experience. > > > > > > > > > > > > Probiotics: > > > > > > Everyone should take probiotics after having taking any antibiotics > > > > > > (including babies and children). Probiotics are just replacing the > > > > > > natural bacteria that are present in your GI tract (I think mostly > > > > > > intestines). A lot of times antibiotics knock out the good bacteria > > > > > > and if you don't replace them, the bad ones can move right on in. > > > > > > My GI doc had me take antibiotics that specifically killed > > > > > > everything in my intestinal tract. I had explicit instructions to > > > > > > take probiotics for THREE months after finishing the antibiotics. > > > > > > You want to find ones that have as many bacterial strands as > > > > > > possible (I am taking one that has 10 strains and another that has > > > > > > 14 to give you an idea of what you can find). You also want to try > > > > > > to find ones that have at least 20 billion bacteria in a dose. I am > > > > > > taking 70 billion a day after the "big flush." > > > > > > > > > > > > Probiotics are almost always refrigerated to keep the cultures alive > > > > > > and are OTC. I would buy them from a reputable store....health food > > > > > > stores like Vitamin Cottage, Whole Foods, Pharmica..... They are > > > > > > expensive so that is a serious drawback but I feel it is worth > > > > > > giving them a try if you are having digestion issues. I think they > > > > > > are a necessity after antibiotics. A three month course is a very > > > > > > long one and I think that a couple of weeks is more normal after > > > > > > having antibiotics. Remember not to take them while on antibiotics > > > > > > as the meds would just kill them...so it is a waste. > > > > > > > > > > > > Digestive Enzymes: > > > > > > I took digestive enzymes for a long time to be able to eat. I had a > > > > > > special little pill container on my keychain so that if I was out, I > > > > > > always had some with me. No pill = no food for me. My > > > > > > understanding is that the digestive enzymes are more targeted to > > > > > > what happens in your stomach. You can get enzymes for specific food > > > > > > items (milk, sugar....). Personally, I was really irritated when my > > > > > > doc told me just to take the enzymes when I was trying to figure out > > > > > > my digestion issues. Not a solution but something that might allow > > > > > > life to be a little more bearable. These were a long term thing vs. > > > > > > the probiotics that only need to be taken long enough to replenish > > > > > > what should be in your body. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is to happy tummies and intestines. May they all be bloat free. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 i've had that in the er too and it worked great. I tried to prescribe it alot to my nursing home patients and older crowd, because I know I can't swallow those horse size K tablets and I don't know how these little old ladies do. Plus they are gritty and chalky so they stick in the throat. >When I was in the hospital for my AVS, my K tanked, and they gave me a crystal form of K (that they had to mix with water since I can't drink juice). It tasted godawful, but it brought my K up from 2.9 to 4.1 in one dose, and no stomach trouble (of course, I was on Zofran at the time so not sure how tolerable it would be day to day). > >I'm going to ask my doc if I can get the crystal stuff instead of the pills for my next refill and see if I respond to it better. > >-msmith1928 >45, nulliparous female, 5'3 " , 120 lbs, 1cm left adrenal nodule, supine aldosterone 28.5/renin 0.2, potassium <2.9 (when not taking supplements); 25mg spiro caused gynecomastia; no HTN meds; current meds are 20MEQ K 3x/day, singulair 10mg, norethindrone .35mg, cyclobenzaprine 5-10mg when needed, fexofenadine 180mg when needed; low sodium, fructose- and grain-free diet; known drug allergies include PCN, sulfa, tetracycline > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > From: andra Bradley <alex.southpole@> >> >> > > > > > Subject: Probiotics and Digestive Enzymes - >> >> > > > > > Please read! >> >> > > > > > To: hyperaldosteronism >> >> > > > > > Date: Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 12:43 AM >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > Hello everyone, >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > I wanted to throw in what I know about probiotics and digestive >> >> > > > > > enzymes after reading the emails back and forth from folks. Take it >> >> > > > > > as you would like as I no expert. This is just from my own >> >> > > > > > experience. >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > Probiotics: >> >> > > > > > Everyone should take probiotics after having taking any antibiotics >> >> > > > > > (including babies and children). Probiotics are just replacing the >> >> > > > > > natural bacteria that are present in your GI tract (I think mostly >> >> > > > > > intestines). A lot of times antibiotics knock out the good bacteria >> >> > > > > > and if you don't replace them, the bad ones can move right on in. >> >> > > > > > My GI doc had me take antibiotics that specifically killed >> >> > > > > > everything in my intestinal tract. I had explicit instructions to >> >> > > > > > take probiotics for THREE months after finishing the antibiotics. >> >> > > > > > You want to find ones that have as many bacterial strands as >> >> > > > > > possible (I am taking one that has 10 strains and another that has >> >> > > > > > 14 to give you an idea of what you can find). You also want to try >> >> > > > > > to find ones that have at least 20 billion bacteria in a dose. I am >> >> > > > > > taking 70 billion a day after the " big flush. " >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > Probiotics are almost always refrigerated to keep the cultures alive >> >> > > > > > and are OTC. I would buy them from a reputable store....health food >> >> > > > > > stores like Vitamin Cottage, Whole Foods, Pharmica..... They are >> >> > > > > > expensive so that is a serious drawback but I feel it is worth >> >> > > > > > giving them a try if you are having digestion issues. I think they >> >> > > > > > are a necessity after antibiotics. A three month course is a very >> >> > > > > > long one and I think that a couple of weeks is more normal after >> >> > > > > > having antibiotics. Remember not to take them while on antibiotics >> >> > > > > > as the meds would just kill them...so it is a waste. >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > Digestive Enzymes: >> >> > > > > > I took digestive enzymes for a long time to be able to eat. I had a >> >> > > > > > special little pill container on my keychain so that if I was out, I >> >> > > > > > always had some with me. No pill = no food for me. My >> >> > > > > > understanding is that the digestive enzymes are more targeted to >> >> > > > > > what happens in your stomach. You can get enzymes for specific food >> >> > > > > > items (milk, sugar....). Personally, I was really irritated when my >> >> > > > > > doc told me just to take the enzymes when I was trying to figure out >> >> > > > > > my digestion issues. Not a solution but something that might allow >> >> > > > > > life to be a little more bearable. These were a long term thing vs. >> >> > > > > > the probiotics that only need to be taken long enough to replenish >> >> > > > > > what should be in your body. >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > Here is to happy tummies and intestines. May they all be bloat free. >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > Cheers, >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > ------------------------------------ >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 I dont have any trouble swallowing the K horse pills, but I have not been taking them lately. For the last month i have been just drinking low sodium V8 juice - which works, but it causes some nasty rotten gas. I thought it might tame down as I got use to drinking it, but V8 and an granny smith apple are a lethal weapon of mass repulsion that will just about take the paint off the walls. Needless to say it has rendered me banished to the guest room a few times. lol. So, I am looking for options that will be easier on my stomach. It says on the bottle they can be dissolved. I just have not tried it yet. ============================================================================45-Male-Caucasian, 5'9"- 234lbs, PA Diagnosed 2007 Suspected Hyperplasia-No tumors on CT - No AVS.Meds: 50mg Spiro, 1200mg Calcium, 500mg Magnesium, 100,000UI Vit D (weekly), 20mg OmeprazoleSide effects: Gynecomastia, stomach inflammationOther Diags: GERD, Hiatal Hernia, Metabolic Syndrome - PreDiabetic, Secondary Hyperparathyroidism caused by Renal calcium leak, Bone Cyct in left Femoral Head and Pelvis. Benign Lung Nodules, Fibromyalgia, Scarring on Right Kidney Lower PoleDASH: Started DASHing 5/3/2011To: hyperaldosteronism Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 4:56 PMSubject: Re: Re: low K and digestive issues i've had that in the er too and it worked great. I tried to prescribe it alot to my nursing home patients and older crowd, because I know I can't swallow those horse size K tablets and I don't know how these little old ladies do. Plus they are gritty and chalky so they stick in the throat. >When I was in the hospital for my AVS, my K tanked, and they gave me a crystal form of K (that they had to mix with water since I can't drink juice). It tasted godawful, but it brought my K up from 2.9 to 4.1 in one dose, and no stomach trouble (of course, I was on Zofran at the time so not sure how tolerable it would be day to day). > >I'm going to ask my doc if I can get the crystal stuff instead of the pills for my next refill and see if I respond to it better. > >-msmith1928 >45, nulliparous female, 5'3", 120 lbs, 1cm left adrenal nodule, supine aldosterone 28.5/renin 0.2, potassium <2.9 (when not taking supplements); 25mg spiro caused gynecomastia; no HTN meds; current meds are 20MEQ K 3x/day, singulair 10mg, norethindrone .35mg, cyclobenzaprine 5-10mg when needed, fexofenadine 180mg when needed; low sodium, fructose- and grain-free diet; known drug allergies include PCN, sulfa, tetracycline > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > From: andra Bradley <alex.southpole@> >> >> > > > > > Subject: Probiotics and Digestive Enzymes - >> >> > > > > > Please read! >> >> > > > > > To: hyperaldosteronism >> >> > > > > > Date: Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 12:43 AM >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > Hello everyone, >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > I wanted to throw in what I know about probiotics and digestive >> >> > > > > > enzymes after reading the emails back and forth from folks. Take it >> >> > > > > > as you would like as I no expert. This is just from my own >> >> > > > > > experience. >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > Probiotics: >> >> > > > > > Everyone should take probiotics after having taking any antibiotics >> >> > > > > > (including babies and children). Probiotics are just replacing the >> >> > > > > > natural bacteria that are present in your GI tract (I think mostly >> >> > > > > > intestines). A lot of times antibiotics knock out the good bacteria >> >> > > > > > and if you don't replace them, the bad ones can move right on in. >> >> > > > > > My GI doc had me take antibiotics that specifically killed >> >> > > > > > everything in my intestinal tract. I had explicit instructions to >> >> > > > > > take probiotics for THREE months after finishing the antibiotics. >> >> > > > > > You want to find ones that have as many bacterial strands as >> >> > > > > > possible (I am taking one that has 10 strains and another that has >> >> > > > > > 14 to give you an idea of what you can find). You also want to try >> >> > > > > > to find ones that have at least 20 billion bacteria in a dose. I am >> >> > > > > > taking 70 billion a day after the "big flush." >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > Probiotics are almost always refrigerated to keep the cultures alive >> >> > > > > > and are OTC. I would buy them from a reputable store....health food >> >> > > > > > stores like Vitamin Cottage, Whole Foods, Pharmica..... They are >> >> > > > > > expensive so that is a serious drawback but I feel it is worth >> >> > > > > > giving them a try if you are having digestion issues. I think they >> >> > > > > > are a necessity after antibiotics. A three month course is a very >> >> > > > > > long one and I think that a couple of weeks is more normal after >> >> > > > > > having antibiotics. Remember not to take them while on antibiotics >> >> > > > > > as the meds would just kill them...so it is a waste. >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > Digestive Enzymes: >> >> > > > > > I took digestive enzymes for a long time to be able to eat. I had a >> >> > > > > > special little pill container on my keychain so that if I was out, I >> >> > > > > > always had some with me. No pill = no food for me. My >> >> > > > > > understanding is that the digestive enzymes are more targeted to >> >> > > > > > what happens in your stomach. You can get enzymes for specific food >> >> > > > > > items (milk, sugar....). Personally, I was really irritated when my >> >> > > > > > doc told me just to take the enzymes when I was trying to figure out >> >> > > > > > my digestion issues. Not a solution but something that might allow >> >> > > > > > life to be a little more bearable. These were a long term thing vs. >> >> > > > > > the probiotics that only need to be taken long enough to replenish >> >> > > > > > what should be in your body. >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > Here is to happy tummies and intestines. May they all be bloat free. >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > Cheers, >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > ------------------------------------ >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 Might try drinking less. What is dose of pills you had been on.CE Grim MDI dont have any trouble swallowing the K horse pills, but I have not been taking them lately. For the last month i have been just drinking low sodium V8 juice - which works, but it causes some nasty rotten gas. I thought it might tame down as I got use to drinking it, but V8 and an granny smith apple are a lethal weapon of mass repulsion that will just about take the paint off the walls. Needless to say it has rendered me banished to the guest room a few times. lol. So, I am looking for options that will be easier on my stomach. It says on the bottle they can be dissolved. I just have not tried it yet. ============================================================================45-Male-Caucasian, 5'9"- 234lbs, PA Diagnosed 2007 Suspected Hyperplasia-No tumors on CT - No AVS.Meds: 50mg Spiro, 1200mg Calcium, 500mg Magnesium, 100,000UI Vit D (weekly), 20mg OmeprazoleSide effects: Gynecomastia, stomach inflammationOther Diags: GERD, Hiatal Hernia, Metabolic Syndrome - PreDiabetic, Secondary Hyperparathyroidism caused by Renal calcium leak, Bone Cyct in left Femoral Head and Pelvis. Benign Lung Nodules, Fibromyalgia, Scarring on Right Kidney Lower PoleDASH: Started DASHing 5/3/2011To: hyperaldosteronism Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 4:56 PMSubject: Re: Re: low K and digestive issues i've had that in the er too and it worked great. I tried to prescribe it alot to my nursing home patients and older crowd, because I know I can't swallow those horse size K tablets and I don't know how these little old ladies do. Plus they are gritty and chalky so they stick in the throat.>When I was in the hospital for my AVS, my K tanked, and they gave me a crystal form of K (that they had to mix with water since I can't drink juice). It tasted godawful, but it brought my K up from 2.9 to 4.1 in one dose, and no stomach trouble (of course, I was on Zofran at the time so not sure how tolerable it would be day to day).>>I'm going to ask my doc if I can get the crystal stuff instead of the pills for my next refill and see if I respond to it better.>>-msmith1928>45, nulliparous female, 5'3", 120 lbs, 1cm left adrenal nodule, supine aldosterone 28.5/renin 0.2, potassium <2.9 (when not taking supplements); 25mg spiro caused gynecomastia; no HTN meds; current meds are 20MEQ K 3x/day, singulair 10mg, norethindrone .35mg, cyclobenzaprine 5-10mg when needed, fexofenadine 180mg when needed; low sodium, fructose- and grain-free diet; known drug allergies include PCN, sulfa, tetracycline>>>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > > From: andra Bradley <alex.southpole@>>> >> > > > > > Subject: Probiotics and Digestive Enzymes - >> >> > > > > > Please read!>> >> > > > > > To: hyperaldosteronism >> >> > > > > > Date: Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 12:43 AM>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > > Hello everyone,>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > > I wanted to throw in what I know about probiotics and digestive >> >> > > > > > enzymes after reading the emails back and forth from folks. Take it >> >> > > > > > as you would like as I no expert. This is just from my own >> >> > > > > > experience.>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > > Probiotics:>> >> > > > > > Everyone should take probiotics after having taking any antibiotics >> >> > > > > > (including babies and children). Probiotics are just replacing the >> >> > > > > > natural bacteria that are present in your GI tract (I think mostly >> >> > > > > > intestines). A lot of times antibiotics knock out the good bacteria >> >> > > > > > and if you don't replace them, the bad ones can move right on in. >> >> > > > > > My GI doc had me take antibiotics that specifically killed >> >> > > > > > everything in my intestinal tract. I had explicit instructions to >> >> > > > > > take probiotics for THREE months after finishing the antibiotics. >> >> > > > > > You want to find ones that have as many bacterial strands as >> >> > > > > > possible (I am taking one that has 10 strains and another that has >> >> > > > > > 14 to give you an idea of what you can find). You also want to try >> >> > > > > > to find ones that have at least 20 billion bacteria in a dose. I am >> >> > > > > > taking 70 billion a day after the "big flush.">> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > > Probiotics are almost always refrigerated to keep the cultures alive >> >> > > > > > and are OTC. I would buy them from a reputable store....health food >> >> > > > > > stores like Vitamin Cottage, Whole Foods, Pharmica..... They are >> >> > > > > > expensive so that is a serious drawback but I feel it is worth >> >> > > > > > giving them a try if you are having digestion issues. I think they >> >> > > > > > are a necessity after antibiotics. A three month course is a very >> >> > > > > > long one and I think that a couple of weeks is more normal after >> >> > > > > > having antibiotics. Remember not to take them while on antibiotics >> >> > > > > > as the meds would just kill them...so it is a waste.>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > > Digestive Enzymes:>> >> > > > > > I took digestive enzymes for a long time to be able to eat. I had a >> >> > > > > > special little pill container on my keychain so that if I was out, I >> >> > > > > > always had some with me. No pill = no food for me. My >> >> > > > > > understanding is that the digestive enzymes are more targeted to >> >> > > > > > what happens in your stomach. You can get enzymes for specific food >> >> > > > > > items (milk, sugar....). Personally, I was really irritated when my >> >> > > > > > doc told me just to take the enzymes when I was trying to figure out >> >> > > > > > my digestion issues. Not a solution but something that might allow >> >> > > > > > life to be a little more bearable. These were a long term thing vs. >> >> > > > > > the probiotics that only need to be taken long enough to replenish >> >> > > > > > what should be in your body.>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > > Here is to happy tummies and intestines. May they all be bloat free.>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > > Cheers,>> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > > ------------------------------------>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 Some are enteric coated or in a wax matrix so may not dissolve easily.CE Grim MDWhat about dissolving a prescription Potassium Chloride pill in hot tea or something? Does that make it easier to tolerate on the gut? ============================================================================45-Male-Caucasian, 5'9"- 234lbs, PA Diagnosed 2007 Suspected Hyperplasia-No tumors on CT - No AVS.Meds: 50mg Spiro, 1200mg Calcium, 500mg Magnesium, 100,000UI Vit D (weekly), 20mg OmeprazoleSide effects: Gynecomastia, stomach inflammationOther Diags: GERD, Hiatal Hernia, Metabolic Syndrome - PreDiabetic, Secondary Hyperparathyroidism caused by Renal calcium leak, Bone Cyct in left Femoral Head and Pelvis. Benign Lung Nodules, Fibromyalgia, Scarring on Right Kidney Lower PoleDASH: Started DASHing 5/3/2011To: hyperaldosteronism Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 4:09 PMSubject: Re: low K and digestive issues Probably going to have to make your own high K juice. > > > > > >> > > > > > From: andra Bradley <alex.southpole@>> > > > > > Subject: Probiotics and Digestive Enzymes - > > > > > > Please read!> > > > > > To: hyperaldosteronism > > > > > > Date: Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 12:43 AM> > > > > >> > > > > > Hello everyone,> > > > > >> > > > > > I wanted to throw in what I know about probiotics and digestive > > > > > > enzymes after reading the emails back and forth from folks. Take it > > > > > > as you would like as I no expert. This is just from my own > > > > > > experience.> > > > > >> > > > > > Probiotics:> > > > > > Everyone should take probiotics after having taking any antibiotics > > > > > > (including babies and children). Probiotics are just replacing the > > > > > > natural bacteria that are present in your GI tract (I think mostly > > > > > > intestines). A lot of times antibiotics knock out the good bacteria > > > > > > and if you don't replace them, the bad ones can move right on in. > > > > > > My GI doc had me take antibiotics that specifically killed > > > > > > everything in my intestinal tract. I had explicit instructions to > > > > > > take probiotics for THREE months after finishing the antibiotics. > > > > > > You want to find ones that have as many bacterial strands as > > > > > > possible (I am taking one that has 10 strains and another that has > > > > > > 14 to give you an idea of what you can find). You also want to try > > > > > > to find ones that have at least 20 billion bacteria in a dose. I am > > > > > > taking 70 billion a day after the "big flush."> > > > > >> > > > > > Probiotics are almost always refrigerated to keep the cultures alive > > > > > > and are OTC. I would buy them from a reputable store....health food > > > > > > stores like Vitamin Cottage, Whole Foods, Pharmica..... They are > > > > > > expensive so that is a serious drawback but I feel it is worth > > > > > > giving them a try if you are having digestion issues. I think they > > > > > > are a necessity after antibiotics. A three month course is a very > > > > > > long one and I think that a couple of weeks is more normal after > > > > > > having antibiotics. Remember not to take them while on antibiotics > > > > > > as the meds would just kill them...so it is a waste.> > > > > >> > > > > > Digestive Enzymes:> > > > > > I took digestive enzymes for a long time to be able to eat. I had a > > > > > > special little pill container on my keychain so that if I was out, I > > > > > > always had some with me. No pill = no food for me. My > > > > > > understanding is that the digestive enzymes are more targeted to > > > > > > what happens in your stomach. You can get enzymes for specific food > > > > > > items (milk, sugar....). Personally, I was really irritated when my > > > > > > doc told me just to take the enzymes when I was trying to figure out > > > > > > my digestion issues. Not a solution but something that might allow > > > > > > life to be a little more bearable. These were a long term thing vs. > > > > > > the probiotics that only need to be taken long enough to replenish > > > > > > what should be in your body.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Here is to happy tummies and intestines. May they all be bloat free.> > > > > >> > > > > > Cheers,> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > ------------------------------------> > > > > >> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 and GI problems can cause low K.Diarrhea and laxative abuse.CE Grim MDI have read in many places that low K can cause GI problems. But many things can cause GI problems so me may not always tell our Dr about this. > > > > >> > > > > From: andra Bradley <alex.southpole@>> > > > > Subject: Probiotics and Digestive Enzymes -> > > > > Please read!> > > > > To: hyperaldosteronism > > > > > Date: Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 12:43 AM> > > > >> > > > > Hello everyone,> > > > >> > > > > I wanted to throw in what I know about probiotics and digestive> > > > > enzymes after reading the emails back and forth from folks. > > Take it> > > > > as you would like as I no expert. This is just from my own> > > > > experience.> > > > >> > > > > Probiotics:> > > > > Everyone should take probiotics after having taking any > > antibiotics> > > > > (including babies and children). Probiotics are just replacing > > the> > > > > natural bacteria that are present in your GI tract (I think > > mostly> > > > > intestines). A lot of times antibiotics knock out the good > > bacteria> > > > > and if you don't replace them, the bad ones can move right on > > in.> > > > > My GI doc had me take antibiotics that specifically killed> > > > > everything in my intestinal tract. I had explicit instructions > > to> > > > > take probiotics for THREE months after finishing the > > antibiotics.> > > > > You want to find ones that have as many bacterial strands as> > > > > possible (I am taking one that has 10 strains and another that > > has> > > > > 14 to give you an idea of what you can find). You also want to > > try> > > > > to find ones that have at least 20 billion bacteria in a dose. > > I am> > > > > taking 70 billion a day after the "big flush."> > > > >> > > > > Probiotics are almost always refrigerated to keep the cultures > > alive> > > > > and are OTC. I would buy them from a reputable store....health > > food> > > > > stores like Vitamin Cottage, Whole Foods, Pharmica..... They are> > > > > expensive so that is a serious drawback but I feel it is worth> > > > > giving them a try if you are having digestion issues. I think > > they> > > > > are a necessity after antibiotics. A three month course is a > > very> > > > > long one and I think that a couple of weeks is more normal after> > > > > having antibiotics. Remember not to take them while on > > antibiotics> > > > > as the meds would just kill them...so it is a waste.> > > > >> > > > > Digestive Enzymes:> > > > > I took digestive enzymes for a long time to be able to eat. I > > had a> > > > > special little pill container on my keychain so that if I was > > out, I> > > > > always had some with me. No pill = no food for me. My> > > > > understanding is that the digestive enzymes are more targeted to> > > > > what happens in your stomach. You can get enzymes for specific > > food> > > > > items (milk, sugar....). Personally, I was really irritated > > when my> > > > > doc told me just to take the enzymes when I was trying to > > figure out> > > > > my digestion issues. Not a solution but something that might > > allow> > > > > life to be a little more bearable. These were a long term > > thing vs.> > > > > the probiotics that only need to be taken long enough to > > replenish> > > > > what should be in your body.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Here is to happy tummies and intestines. May they all be bloat > > free.> > > > >> > > > > Cheers,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ------------------------------------> > > > >> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 So to replace that you only need 1 cup of low Na V-8 a day.You can use it in soup or as a salad dressing with olive oil and garlic.CE Grim MDI was taking 40MEQ per day ============================================================================45-Male-Caucasian, 5'9"- 234lbs, PA Diagnosed 2007 Suspected Hyperplasia-No tumors on CT - No AVS.Meds: 50mg Spiro, 1200mg Calcium, 500mg Magnesium, 100,000UI Vit D (weekly), 20mg OmeprazoleSide effects: Gynecomastia, stomach inflammationOther Diags: GERD, Hiatal Hernia, Metabolic Syndrome - PreDiabetic, Secondary Hyperparathyroidism caused by Renal calcium leak, Bone Cyct in left Femoral Head and Pelvis. Benign Lung Nodules, Fibromyalgia, Scarring on Right Kidney Lower PoleDASH: Started DASHing 5/3/2011To: hyperaldosteronism Cc: Clarence Grim Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 11:53 PMSubject: Re: Re: low K and digestive issues Might try drinking less. What is dose of pills you had been on.CE Grim MDI dont have any trouble swallowing the K horse pills, but I have not been taking them lately. For the last month i have been just drinking low sodium V8 juice - which works, but it causes some nasty rotten gas. I thought it might tame down as I got use to drinking it, but V8 and an granny smith apple are a lethal weapon of mass repulsion that will just about take the paint off the walls. Needless to say it has rendered me banished to the guest room a few times. lol. So, I am looking for options that will be easier on my stomach. It says on the bottle they can be dissolved. I just have not tried it yet. ============================================================================45-Male-Caucasian, 5'9"- 234lbs, PA Diagnosed 2007 Suspected Hyperplasia-No tumors on CT - No AVS.Meds: 50mg Spiro, 1200mg Calcium, 500mg Magnesium, 100,000UI Vit D (weekly), 20mg OmeprazoleSide effects: Gynecomastia, stomach inflammationOther Diags: GERD, Hiatal Hernia, Metabolic Syndrome - PreDiabetic, Secondary Hyperparathyroidism caused by Renal calcium leak, Bone Cyct in left Femoral Head and Pelvis. Benign Lung Nodules, Fibromyalgia, Scarring on Right Kidney Lower PoleDASH: Started DASHing 5/3/2011To: hyperaldosteronism Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 4:56 PMSubject: Re: Re: low K and digestive issues i've had that in the er too and it worked great. I tried to prescribe it alot to my nursing home patients and older crowd, because I know I can't swallow those horse size K tablets and I don't know how these little old ladies do. Plus they are gritty and chalky so they stick in the throat.>When I was in the hospital for my AVS, my K tanked, and they gave me a crystal form of K (that they had to mix with water since I can't drink juice). It tasted godawful, but it brought my K up from 2.9 to 4.1 in one dose, and no stomach trouble (of course, I was on Zofran at the time so not sure how tolerable it would be day to day).>>I'm going to ask my doc if I can get the crystal stuff instead of the pills for my next refill and see if I respond to it better.>>-msmith1928>45, nulliparous female, 5'3", 120 lbs, 1cm left adrenal nodule, supine aldosterone 28.5/renin 0.2, potassium <2.9 (when not taking supplements); 25mg spiro caused gynecomastia; no HTN meds; current meds are 20MEQ K 3x/day, singulair 10mg, norethindrone .35mg, cyclobenzaprine 5-10mg when needed, fexofenadine 180mg when needed; low sodium, fructose- and grain-free diet; known drug allergies include PCN, sulfa, tetracycline>>>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > > From: andra Bradley <alex.southpole@>>> >> > > > > > Subject: Probiotics and Digestive Enzymes - >> >> > > > > > Please read!>> >> > > > > > To: hyperaldosteronism >> >> > > > > > Date: Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 12:43 AM>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > > Hello everyone,>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > > I wanted to throw in what I know about probiotics and digestive >> >> > > > > > enzymes after reading the emails back and forth from folks. Take it >> >> > > > > > as you would like as I no expert. This is just from my own >> >> > > > > > experience.>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > > Probiotics:>> >> > > > > > Everyone should take probiotics after having taking any antibiotics >> >> > > > > > (including babies and children). Probiotics are just replacing the >> >> > > > > > natural bacteria that are present in your GI tract (I think mostly >> >> > > > > > intestines). A lot of times antibiotics knock out the good bacteria >> >> > > > > > and if you don't replace them, the bad ones can move right on in. >> >> > > > > > My GI doc had me take antibiotics that specifically killed >> >> > > > > > everything in my intestinal tract. I had explicit instructions to >> >> > > > > > take probiotics for THREE months after finishing the antibiotics. >> >> > > > > > You want to find ones that have as many bacterial strands as >> >> > > > > > possible (I am taking one that has 10 strains and another that has >> >> > > > > > 14 to give you an idea of what you can find). You also want to try >> >> > > > > > to find ones that have at least 20 billion bacteria in a dose. I am >> >> > > > > > taking 70 billion a day after the "big flush.">> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > > Probiotics are almost always refrigerated to keep the cultures alive >> >> > > > > > and are OTC. I would buy them from a reputable store....health food >> >> > > > > > stores like Vitamin Cottage, Whole Foods, Pharmica..... They are >> >> > > > > > expensive so that is a serious drawback but I feel it is worth >> >> > > > > > giving them a try if you are having digestion issues. I think they >> >> > > > > > are a necessity after antibiotics. A three month course is a very >> >> > > > > > long one and I think that a couple of weeks is more normal after >> >> > > > > > having antibiotics. Remember not to take them while on antibiotics >> >> > > > > > as the meds would just kill them...so it is a waste.>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > > Digestive Enzymes:>> >> > > > > > I took digestive enzymes for a long time to be able to eat. I had a >> >> > > > > > special little pill container on my keychain so that if I was out, I >> >> > > > > > always had some with me. No pill = no food for me. My >> >> > > > > > understanding is that the digestive enzymes are more targeted to >> >> > > > > > what happens in your stomach. You can get enzymes for specific food >> >> > > > > > items (milk, sugar....). Personally, I was really irritated when my >> >> > > > > > doc told me just to take the enzymes when I was trying to figure out >> >> > > > > > my digestion issues. Not a solution but something that might allow >> >> > > > > > life to be a little more bearable. These were a long term thing vs. >> >> > > > > > the probiotics that only need to be taken long enough to replenish >> >> > > > > > what should be in your body.>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > > Here is to happy tummies and intestines. May they all be bloat free.>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > > Cheers,>> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > > ------------------------------------>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 In some they do and others they do not.CE Grim MDOr, to put it bluntly: carbs cause gas. Straight from the NIH:http://digestive.niddk.nih.gov/ddiseases/pubs/gas/#foods--- In hyperaldosteronism , "Francis Bill SUSPECTED PA" wrote:>> This is what it says in the file on DASHING> > You should be aware that the DASH eating plan has more daily servings of fruits,> vegetables, and whole grain foods than you may be used to eating. Because the plan is> high in fiber, it can cause bloating and diarrhea in some persons. To avoid these problems,> gradually increase your intake of fruit, vegetables, and whole grain foods.> > > > > >>>>> >> > > > > >> > >>>>> >> > > > > > From: andra Bradley <alex.southpole@>> > >>>>> >> > > > > > Subject: Probiotics and Digestive Enzymes - > > >>>>> >> > > > > > Please read!> > >>>>> >> > > > > > To: hyperaldosteronism > > >>>>> >> > > > > > Date: Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 12:43 AM> > >>>>> >> > > > > >> > >>>>> >> > > > > > Hello everyone,> > >>>>> >> > > > > >> > >>>>> >> > > > > > I wanted to throw in what I know about probiotics and digestive > > >>>>> >> > > > > > enzymes after reading the emails back and forth from folks. Take it > > >>>>> >> > > > > > as you would like as I no expert. This is just from my own > > >>>>> >> > > > > > experience.> > >>>>> >> > > > > >> > >>>>> >> > > > > > Probiotics:> > >>>>> >> > > > > > Everyone should take probiotics after having taking any antibiotics > > >>>>> >> > > > > > (including babies and children). Probiotics are just replacing the > > >>>>> >> > > > > > natural bacteria that are present in your GI tract (I think mostly > > >>>>> >> > > > > > intestines). A lot of times antibiotics knock out the good bacteria > > >>>>> >> > > > > > and if you don't replace them, the bad ones can move right on in. > > >>>>> >> > > > > > My GI doc had me take antibiotics that specifically killed > > >>>>> >> > > > > > everything in my intestinal tract. I had explicit instructions to > > >>>>> >> > > > > > take probiotics for THREE months after finishing the antibiotics. > > >>>>> >> > > > > > You want to find ones that have as many bacterial strands as > > >>>>> >> > > > > > possible (I am taking one that has 10 strains and another that has > > >>>>> >> > > > > > 14 to give you an idea of what you can find). You also want to try > > >>>>> >> > > > > > to find ones that have at least 20 billion bacteria in a dose. I am > > >>>>> >> > > > > > taking 70 billion a day after the "big flush."> > >>>>> >> > > > > >> > >>>>> >> > > > > > Probiotics are almost always refrigerated to keep the cultures alive > > >>>>> >> > > > > > and are OTC. I would buy them from a reputable store....health food > > >>>>> >> > > > > > stores like Vitamin Cottage, Whole Foods, Pharmica..... They are > > >>>>> >> > > > > > expensive so that is a serious drawback but I feel it is worth > > >>>>> >> > > > > > giving them a try if you are having digestion issues. I think they > > >>>>> >> > > > > > are a necessity after antibiotics. A three month course is a very > > >>>>> >> > > > > > long one and I think that a couple of weeks is more normal after > > >>>>> >> > > > > > having antibiotics. Remember not to take them while on antibiotics > > >>>>> >> > > > > > as the meds would just kill them...so it is a waste.> > >>>>> >> > > > > >> > >>>>> >> > > > > > Digestive Enzymes:> > >>>>> >> > > > > > I took digestive enzymes for a long time to be able to eat. I had a > > >>>>> >> > > > > > special little pill container on my keychain so that if I was out, I > > >>>>> >> > > > > > always had some with me. No pill = no food for me. My > > >>>>> >> > > > > > understanding is that the digestive enzymes are more targeted to > > >>>>> >> > > > > > what happens in your stomach. You can get enzymes for specific food > > >>>>> >> > > > > > items (milk, sugar....). Personally, I was really irritated when my > > >>>>> >> > > > > > doc told me just to take the enzymes when I was trying to figure out > > >>>>> >> > > > > > my digestion issues. Not a solution but something that might allow > > >>>>> >> > > > > > life to be a little more bearable. These were a long term thing vs. > > >>>>> >> > > > > > the probiotics that only need to be taken long enough to replenish > > >>>>> >> > > > > > what should be in your body.> > >>>>> >> > > > > >> > >>>>> >> > > > > >> > >>>>> >> > > > > > Here is to happy tummies and intestines. May they all be bloat free.> > >>>>> >> > > > > >> > >>>>> >> > > > > > Cheers,> > >>>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> >> > > > > >> > >>>>> >> > > > > >> > >>>>> >> > > > > >> > >>>>> >> > > > > >> > >>>>> >> > > > > > ------------------------------------> > >>>>> >> > > > > >> > >>>>> >> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 Really? I calculated 40meq to be about 3000mg of Potassium Chloride. That would mean about 3 12oz cans of V8 per day. ============================================================================45-Male-Caucasian, 5'9"- 234lbs, PA Diagnosed 2007 Suspected Hyperplasia-No tumors on CT - No AVS.Meds: 50mg Spiro, 1200mg Calcium, 500mg Magnesium, 100,000UI Vit D (weekly), 20mg OmeprazoleSide effects: Gynecomastia, stomach inflammationOther Diags: GERD, Hiatal Hernia, Metabolic Syndrome - PreDiabetic, Secondary Hyperparathyroidism caused by Renal calcium leak, Bone Cyct in left Femoral Head and Pelvis. Benign Lung Nodules, Fibromyalgia, Scarring on Right Kidney Lower PoleDASH: Started DASHing 5/3/2011To: hyperaldosteronism Cc: Clarence Grim Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2011 10:53 PMSubject: Re: Re: low K and digestive issues So to replace that you only need 1 cup of low Na V-8 a day.You can use it in soup or as a salad dressing with olive oil and garlic.CE Grim MDI was taking 40MEQ per day ============================================================================45-Male-Caucasian, 5'9"- 234lbs, PA Diagnosed 2007 Suspected Hyperplasia-No tumors on CT - No AVS.Meds: 50mg Spiro, 1200mg Calcium, 500mg Magnesium, 100,000UI Vit D (weekly), 20mg OmeprazoleSide effects: Gynecomastia, stomach inflammationOther Diags: GERD, Hiatal Hernia, Metabolic Syndrome - PreDiabetic, Secondary Hyperparathyroidism caused by Renal calcium leak, Bone Cyct in left Femoral Head and Pelvis. Benign Lung Nodules, Fibromyalgia, Scarring on Right Kidney Lower PoleDASH: Started DASHing 5/3/2011To: hyperaldosteronism Cc: Clarence Grim Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 11:53 PMSubject: Re: Re: low K and digestive issues Might try drinking less. What is dose of pills you had been on.CE Grim MDI dont have any trouble swallowing the K horse pills, but I have not been taking them lately. For the last month i have been just drinking low sodium V8 juice - which works, but it causes some nasty rotten gas. I thought it might tame down as I got use to drinking it, but V8 and an granny smith apple are a lethal weapon of mass repulsion that will just about take the paint off the walls. Needless to say it has rendered me banished to the guest room a few times. lol. So, I am looking for options that will be easier on my stomach. It says on the bottle they can be dissolved. I just have not tried it yet. ============================================================================45-Male-Caucasian, 5'9"- 234lbs, PA Diagnosed 2007 Suspected Hyperplasia-No tumors on CT - No AVS.Meds: 50mg Spiro, 1200mg Calcium, 500mg Magnesium, 100,000UI Vit D (weekly), 20mg OmeprazoleSide effects: Gynecomastia, stomach inflammationOther Diags: GERD, Hiatal Hernia, Metabolic Syndrome - PreDiabetic, Secondary Hyperparathyroidism caused by Renal calcium leak, Bone Cyct in left Femoral Head and Pelvis. Benign Lung Nodules, Fibromyalgia, Scarring on Right Kidney Lower PoleDASH: Started DASHing 5/3/2011To: hyperaldosteronism Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 4:56 PMSubject: Re: Re: low K and digestive issues i've had that in the er too and it worked great. I tried to prescribe it alot to my nursing home patients and older crowd, because I know I can't swallow those horse size K tablets and I don't know how these little old ladies do. Plus they are gritty and chalky so they stick in the throat.>When I was in the hospital for my AVS, my K tanked, and they gave me a crystal form of K (that they had to mix with water since I can't drink juice). It tasted godawful, but it brought my K up from 2.9 to 4.1 in one dose, and no stomach trouble (of course, I was on Zofran at the time so not sure how tolerable it would be day to day).>>I'm going to ask my doc if I can get the crystal stuff instead of the pills for my next refill and see if I respond to it better.>>-msmith1928>45, nulliparous female, 5'3", 120 lbs, 1cm left adrenal nodule, supine aldosterone 28.5/renin 0.2, potassium <2.9 (when not taking supplements); 25mg spiro caused gynecomastia; no HTN meds; current meds are 20MEQ K 3x/day, singulair 10mg, norethindrone .35mg, cyclobenzaprine 5-10mg when needed, fexofenadine 180mg when needed; low sodium, fructose- and grain-free diet; known drug allergies include PCN, sulfa, tetracycline>>>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > > From: andra Bradley <alex.southpole@>>> >> > > > > > Subject: Probiotics and Digestive Enzymes - >> >> > > > > > Please read!>> >> > > > > > To: hyperaldosteronism >> >> > > > > > Date: Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 12:43 AM>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > > Hello everyone,>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > > I wanted to throw in what I know about probiotics and digestive >> >> > > > > > enzymes after reading the emails back and forth from folks. Take it >> >> > > > > > as you would like as I no expert. This is just from my own >> >> > > > > > experience.>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > > Probiotics:>> >> > > > > > Everyone should take probiotics after having taking any antibiotics >> >> > > > > > (including babies and children). Probiotics are just replacing the >> >> > > > > > natural bacteria that are present in your GI tract (I think mostly >> >> > > > > > intestines). A lot of times antibiotics knock out the good bacteria >> >> > > > > > and if you don't replace them, the bad ones can move right on in. >> >> > > > > > My GI doc had me take antibiotics that specifically killed >> >> > > > > > everything in my intestinal tract. I had explicit instructions to >> >> > > > > > take probiotics for THREE months after finishing the antibiotics. >> >> > > > > > You want to find ones that have as many bacterial strands as >> >> > > > > > possible (I am taking one that has 10 strains and another that has >> >> > > > > > 14 to give you an idea of what you can find). You also want to try >> >> > > > > > to find ones that have at least 20 billion bacteria in a dose. I am >> >> > > > > > taking 70 billion a day after the "big flush.">> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > > Probiotics are almost always refrigerated to keep the cultures alive >> >> > > > > > and are OTC. I would buy them from a reputable store....health food >> >> > > > > > stores like Vitamin Cottage, Whole Foods, Pharmica..... They are >> >> > > > > > expensive so that is a serious drawback but I feel it is worth >> >> > > > > > giving them a try if you are having digestion issues. I think they >> >> > > > > > are a necessity after antibiotics. A three month course is a very >> >> > > > > > long one and I think that a couple of weeks is more normal after >> >> > > > > > having antibiotics. Remember not to take them while on antibiotics >> >> > > > > > as the meds would just kill them...so it is a waste.>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > > Digestive Enzymes:>> >> > > > > > I took digestive enzymes for a long time to be able to eat. I had a >> >> > > > > > special little pill container on my keychain so that if I was out, I >> >> > > > > > always had some with me. No pill = no food for me. My >> >> > > > > > understanding is that the digestive enzymes are more targeted to >> >> > > > > > what happens in your stomach. You can get enzymes for specific food >> >> > > > > > items (milk, sugar....). Personally, I was really irritated when my >> >> > > > > > doc told me just to take the enzymes when I was trying to figure out >> >> > > > > > my digestion issues. Not a solution but something that might allow >> >> > > > > > life to be a little more bearable. These were a long term thing vs. >> >> > > > > > the probiotics that only need to be taken long enough to replenish >> >> > > > > > what should be in your body.>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > > Here is to happy tummies and intestines. May they all be bloat free.>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > > Cheers,>> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > > ------------------------------------>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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