Re: duck eggs and duck feed

[Guest guest]

We have ducks and chickens in our backyard and get eggs from both. The ducks

are far superior nutritionally and after observing what they eat it's no

wonder why. Ducks eat greens and/or green grass and TONS of them. Their eggs

have CLA (conjugated linoleic acid), chicken eggs do not. Duck eggs are thicker

in consistency but we can't tell the difference in flavor between the duck

eggs and chicken eggs. I think it's because of how we feed them. I don't use

any commercial feeds. I make my own grain mix adding in things like coconut,

various herbs and seeds, etc. We save the duck eggs for ourselves because of

their nutritional value and give the chicken eggs away. Each of my ducks lays

an egg everyday. The chickens are a little more sporadic.

[Guest guest]

as far as i know it is true

i bought some duck eggs a few weeks back and just did a google search fro

its nutrition value and ( no idea the site now ) at the time found a site

that listed the diferenc ebetween duck and chicken and the duck won out 95%

of the time by some small or large gaps.

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From: rnd4me_94 [mailto:rnd4me@...]

Sent: Monday, 10 November 2003 11:06 AM

Subject: duck eggs and duck feed

hello~

a friend of mine mentioned that duck eggs have more nutritional value

than chicken eggs. i was just curious if that was true. anyone know?

i'm also curious what is the ideal diet for ducks. my stepfather has

about 10 ducks where he is moving. not sure the exact type, they are

white is all i know. at this time they are in a fenced in yard. they

are still working on making the pond safe from predators, they lost

several ducks. i'm guessing they are probably fed a commercial feed.

they are getting lots of eggs from the ducks. just wanted to know if

i should be excited or not.

thanks for any thoughts or info~

beverly

[Guest guest]

--- In , " rnd4me_94 " <rnd4me@a...>

wrote:

> hello~

>

> a friend of mine mentioned that duck eggs have more nutritional

value

> than chicken eggs. i was just curious if that was true. anyone know?

>

> i'm also curious what is the ideal diet for ducks. my stepfather

has

> about 10 ducks where he is moving. not sure the exact type, they

are

> white is all i know. at this time they are in a fenced in yard.

they

> are still working on making the pond safe from predators, they lost

> several ducks. i'm guessing they are probably fed a commercial

feed.

> they are getting lots of eggs from the ducks. just wanted to know

if

> i should be excited or not.

>

> thanks for any thoughts or info~

> beverly

I am also interested in the answers as my daughter and hubby have a

new farm with chickens and (white)ducks. The ducks just started

laying eggs and we are not sure what to do with them. Up til now they

have been feeding them to the dogs. I would like to add a question to

your request if I may? If a person is sensitive to chicken eggs would

they more than likely be also sensitive to duck eggs?

~Del

[Guest guest]

> > hello~

> >

> > a friend of mine mentioned that duck eggs have more nutritional

> value

> > than chicken eggs. i was just curious if that was true. anyone know?

> >

> > i'm also curious what is the ideal diet for ducks. my stepfather

> has

> > about 10 ducks where he is moving. not sure the exact type, they

> are

> > white is all i know. at this time they are in a fenced in yard.

> they

> > are still working on making the pond safe from predators, they lost

> > several ducks. i'm guessing they are probably fed a commercial

> feed.

> > they are getting lots of eggs from the ducks. just wanted to know

> if

> > i should be excited or not.

> >

> > thanks for any thoughts or info~

> > beverly

>

> I am also interested in the answers as my daughter and hubby have a

> new farm with chickens and (white)ducks. The ducks just started

> laying eggs and we are not sure what to do with them. Up til now they

> have been feeding them to the dogs. I would like to add a question to

> your request if I may? If a person is sensitive to chicken eggs would

> they more than likely be also sensitive to duck eggs?

>

> ~Del

I had ducks for a little while. The eggs were pretty strong tasting,

rather rubbery when cooked. I found the best use for them to be in

baking or cooked dishes.

Sharon

[Guest guest]

Often times the sensitivities come from what the birds are eating. That's

why we started raising chickens and ducks to start with as my kids were very

allergic to soy products and all birds are fed tons of soy. They couldn't eat

eggs not because they were allergic to the eggs, they were allergic to the

things the birds were eating. They couldn't eat chicken either. We created a

mix

for our birds that didn't contain any of the foods my kids were sensitive to.

I had to sprout some grains to boost the protein and lysine levels as that's

what the soy provided. I have incredibly healthy chickens that just keep

laying even with the cold weather setting in.

[Guest guest]

> I am also interested in the answers as my daughter and hubby

have a

> new farm with chickens and (white)ducks. The ducks just

started

> laying eggs and we are not sure what to do with them. Up til

now they

> have been feeding them to the dogs. I would like to add a

question to

> your request if I may? If a person is sensitive to chicken eggs

would

> they more than likely be also sensitive to duck eggs?

If your farm is in S. Cal, I'll buy the eggs from you! I am sensitive

to chicken eggs, and am not sensitive to duck eggs. It may be

like cow's milk and goat's milk... a slightly different protein

configuration can make all the difference. If it's a severe egg

allergy, I'd be cautious just in case, though. Have a blood test or

introduce a tiny bit slowly, and look for reactions.

[Guest guest]

I am new to being sensitive to chicken eggs. I have been eating them

almost everyday for 3 years and also using coconut oil. Tummy kept

bothering me so I eliminated all grains for awile and then went back

to just elimating the gluten grains and soaking the other...still

problems. I thought it was the raw dairy so I eliminated that for

awile...still problems. While I was not having dairy I went to

coconut milk and coconut water and all of a sudden I started getting

diarrhea. I thought it was the coconut products then I thought it was

the eggs. I elimated both, one at a time...still problems. This week-

end I tried some cooked egg in ghee and no problem! I am excited

about the ghee! Keep your fingers crossed! I am also excited to learn

about the duck eggs! I will start trying to get them from the dogs!

LOL! Great for you that you can eat the duck eggs and that they are

so good for you! Are you telling me that you don't have a source!?

~Del

>

> > I am also interested in the answers as my daughter and hubby

> have a

> > new farm with chickens and (white)ducks. The ducks just

> started

> > laying eggs and we are not sure what to do with them. Up til

> now they

> > have been feeding them to the dogs. I would like to add a

> question to

> > your request if I may? If a person is sensitive to chicken eggs

> would

> > they more than likely be also sensitive to duck eggs?

>

> If your farm is in S. Cal, I'll buy the eggs from you! I am

sensitive

> to chicken eggs, and am not sensitive to duck eggs. It may be

> like cow's milk and goat's milk... a slightly different protein

> configuration can make all the difference. If it's a severe egg

> allergy, I'd be cautious just in case, though. Have a blood test

or

> introduce a tiny bit slowly, and look for reactions.

>

>

[Guest guest]

--- In , " Delano Eaton " <mushimushi@s...>

wrote:

> LOL! Great for you that you can eat the duck eggs and that they are

> so good for you! Are you telling me that you don't have a source!?

Sadly, not yet. I haven't eaten an egg in years! Both the blood test and

the self-administered pulse test (and muscle testing!) says no chicken eggs

for me! (or beans... or cow's milk... sigh*). I live in the Santa Clarita

Valley in

S. Cal, and just north of me is the Antelope Valley, where I know there are a

lot of farms. I've seen ostrich eggs at farm stands when I've driven through

there on the way to visit in-laws in Vegas. If I give it a concerted effort,

I'm

sure I can find duck eggs and raw goat milk producers... it's just that I've

been

doing a modified version of The Milk Cure (with goat yoghurt drink) for a while

now, and am waiting to finish with that before I start the hunt. I do eat solid

food between cleanses, but only for a few days, so I rely on foods I already

have easy sources for.

Was it a cooked duck egg in ghee that didn't give you any problems? If

you're having trouble identifying what's giving your stomach trouble, you

might want to consider have an ELISA blood test. Pricey, but a lot easier than

elimination diets if you have multiple allergies/sensitivities.

[Guest guest]

> I think it's because of how we feed them. I don't use

> any commercial feeds. I make my own grain mix adding in things

like coconut,

> various herbs and seeds, etc.

Hi ,

Can you give the particulars on your grain mix ( & additions)? How

did you come up with this mix?

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

>

> > LOL! Great for you that you can eat the duck eggs and that they

are

> > so good for you! Are you telling me that you don't have a source!?

>

> Sadly, not yet. I haven't eaten an egg in years! Both the

blood test and

> the self-administered pulse test (and muscle testing!) says no

chicken eggs

> for me! (or beans... or cow's milk... sigh*). I live in the Santa

Clarita Valley in

> S. Cal, and just north of me is the Antelope Valley, where I know

there are a

> lot of farms. I've seen ostrich eggs at farm stands when I've

driven through

> there on the way to visit in-laws in Vegas. If I give it a

concerted effort, I'm

> sure I can find duck eggs and raw goat milk producers... it's just

that I've been

> doing a modified version of The Milk Cure (with goat yoghurt drink)

for a while

> now, and am waiting to finish with that before I start the hunt. I

do eat solid

> food between cleanses, but only for a few days, so I rely on foods

I already

> have easy sources for.

>

> Was it a cooked duck egg in ghee that didn't give you any

problems? If

> you're having trouble identifying what's giving your stomach

trouble, you

> might want to consider have an ELISA blood test. Pricey, but a lot

easier than

> elimination diets if you have multiple allergies/sensitivities.

>

>

I live in Mo and it was a chicken egg that I tried this week-end. If

we were closer I would try to get you some duck eggs from the dogs

too! LOL

I did the stool test from www.enterolab.com to discover that I have

the gene for gluten intolerence with a possible dairy sensitivity.

Pricy but well worth it. It was a great relief to know instead of

wonder! I try muscle testing also but without much luck. I know about

the pulse test but have a hard time locating my pulse! I usually just

go by how my tummy reacts. It has 4 signals. 1-Quiet, calm, feels

good 2- rumbling, tumbling, rolling used to be bloating too 3-

diarrhea immediately after eating something that " it " doesn't like

and then immediately back to 1 and 4- I'm thinking about it, give me

a minute (that's halfway between 1 and 2)! Tell me about the

blood test?? Sounds like you have a handle on your problem. Would you

describe your problem as a digestion problem?? I am mainly living on

kefiili right now so in a since I am doing a milk cure, I think. I

will have to read the Milk Cure again, it's been awhile.

~Del

[Guest guest]

It's my understanding that eating something everyday over time can

cause sensitivity reactions. Makes sense from a traditional diet

point of view; everything has it's season. Even milk & eggs really,

agri-business has extended things artifically to be available

constantly. My neighbors chickens wax & wane in their production,

it's even affected by the amount of sunshine!

-

> I am new to being sensitive to chicken eggs. I have been eating

them

> almost everyday for 3 years and also using coconut oil.

[Guest guest]

That makes all the sense in the world and I believe it without any

evidence! For a long time now I have been working on my diet. There

has always been something to make me go this way or that and most of

the time which ever way I am going at the time it limits what foods I

eat. So for years I did not eat eggs, dairy or meat then when I

discovered NT I ate eggs, dairy and meat! So everything in moderation

and versatility is the key because you can " overdose " on a food! Now

I am living (so to speak) on kefiili. I am planning to have a couple

of days without every 10 days or so.

~Del

> > I am new to being sensitive to chicken eggs. I have been eating

> them

> > almost everyday for 3 years and also using coconut oil.

[Guest guest]

>It's my understanding that eating something everyday over time can

>cause sensitivity reactions. Makes sense from a traditional diet

>point of view; everything has it's season. Even milk & eggs really,

>agri-business has extended things artifically to be available

>constantly. My neighbors chickens wax & wane in their production,

>it's even affected by the amount of sunshine!

>-

That is true for SOME foods, esp. if you have leaky gut.

But the paleo folks followed the herds and ate, often

the same meat day in and out. And the Indians often

ate buffalo, month after month (a lot of it dried), or

salmon, depending where they lived. Most of Price's

healthy tribes had one or two " staples " (like oats for the

Swiss, or milk for the Dinkas).

If you have good digestion and gut health, and aren't genetically

disposed to be allergic to something, chances are it doesn't

matter how often you eat it. IMO.

-- Heidi

[Guest guest]

--- In , " Delano Eaton " <mushimushi@s...>

wrote:

> I did the stool test from www.enterolab.com to discover that I have

> the gene for gluten intolerence with a possible dairy sensitivity.

> Pricy but well worth it.

------I'm trying to get my husband to take that test. I'm convinced he has

gluten intolerance but he's very resistant to doing anything positive for his

health... no matter how miserable he feels!

>Tell me about the

> blood test?? Sounds like you have a handle on your problem. Would you

> describe your problem as a digestion problem?? I am mainly living on

> kefiili right now so in a since I am doing a milk cure, I think. I

> will have to read the Milk Cure again, it's been awhile.

------Del, the test is a blood test. They add food particles to your

blood

sample, and see if there are any immune reactions to the particular food (this

is a very simplified description!). I got a panel of about 100 foods! There

were a lot of things I was sensitive to that I wouldn't have guessed. My dad

has IBS, and my digestion was always poor. Cramping after eating, gas,

bloating, constipation. Usually I didn't connect it with specific foods. I

also

had headaches and skin breakouts. I would definitely say that digestive

problems were at the root of every health problem I've had (and the roots of

the digestive problems are SAD and antibiotics...)

Thanks for being so hypothetically generous with your duck eggs! I wish I

lived close enough to eat some...

[Guest guest]

You don't really need the test, just stop eating gluten and see how

it goes. I did it mostly because I NEEDED to have it verified. It's

just me. It gave me a peace of mind just knowing and really helped me

to never eat gluten again.

Did you get the blood test through your doctor? Insurance

covered it, right? Was it hard to get the doctor to order it? I don't

have a doctor right now, need to find one. Is your doctor being co-

operative with the milk cure? Did you pick the foods on the panel or

the doctor? Can you tell I am interested? LOL!

I have always suspected food sensitivities. Anything that happens I

will blame it on the food everytime. I think I get new sensitivities

as I get older and the old ones go away.

~Del

>

> > I did the stool test from www.enterolab.com to discover that I

have

> > the gene for gluten intolerence with a possible dairy

sensitivity.

> > Pricy but well worth it.

>

> ------I'm trying to get my husband to take that test. I'm

convinced he has

> gluten intolerance but he's very resistant to doing anything

positive for his

> health... no matter how miserable he feels!

>

> >Tell me about the

> > blood test?? Sounds like you have a handle on your problem. Would

you

> > describe your problem as a digestion problem?? I am mainly living

on

> > kefiili right now so in a since I am doing a milk cure, I think.

I

> > will have to read the Milk Cure again, it's been awhile.

>

> ------Del, the test is a blood test. They add food particles

to your blood

> sample, and see if there are any immune reactions to the particular

food (this

> is a very simplified description!). I got a panel of about 100

foods! There

> were a lot of things I was sensitive to that I wouldn't have

guessed. My dad

> has IBS, and my digestion was always poor. Cramping after eating,

gas,

> bloating, constipation. Usually I didn't connect it with specific

foods. I also

> had headaches and skin breakouts. I would definitely say that

digestive

> problems were at the root of every health problem I've had (and the

roots of

> the digestive problems are SAD and antibiotics...)

>

> Thanks for being so hypothetically generous with your duck eggs! I

wish I

> lived close enough to eat some...

>

>

[Guest guest]

>------Del, the test is a blood test. They add food particles to your

blood

>sample, and see if there are any immune reactions to the particular food (this

>is a very simplified description!). I got a panel of about 100 foods! There

>were a lot of things I was sensitive to that I wouldn't have guessed. My dad

>has IBS, and my digestion was always poor.

The test is for IgG allergies, and it is good. But it does not

test for IgA allergies. A lot of the IgA allergens never GET to

the bloodstream. Actually those proteins are NOT supposed to

get into the blood, so the fact a person has blood-detectable

antibodies means they likely have leaky gut. Dr. Fine does a stool

test to test for the antibodies before they get into the blood -- it

is a lot more sensitive for IgA allergies.

-- Heidi

[Guest guest]

--- In , " Delano Eaton " <mushimushi@s...>

wrote:

> Did you get the blood test through your doctor? Insurance

> covered it, right? Was it hard to get the doctor to order it? I don't

> have a doctor right now, need to find one. Is your doctor being co-

> operative with the milk cure? Did you pick the foods on the panel or

> the doctor? Can you tell I am interested? LOL!

-----I read about the test, went to a Naturopath and said, " I want this test! "

You can't really do that with regular MD's (which is why I don't go to one in

general!) I remember when I told my MD (years ago) that I thought I had IBS,

and he got all huffy and asked, " what doctor diagnosed you with that? " Then

he gave me a drug... no tests, no questions...

Insurance didn't cover it because alternative stuff wasn't covered with the

plan I had. But your's might! I pretty much run my own healing using muscle

testing, and when I'm visiting home I see a wonderful chiropractor. My body

lets me know what it needs and I do my best to oblige. It may sound wacky,

but it's working great for me, so far (except I didn't ask how much kombucha

to drink! I'm still regretting that one... see earlier posts:-))

> I have always suspected food sensitivities. Anything that happens I

> will blame it on the food everytime. I think I get new sensitivities

> as I get older and the old ones go away.

------a few of my less severe sensitivities have gone away (bananas, mustard)

as my digestive tract has healed. I think Primal Defense has been a huge

part of that.