Re: Categorising a new experimental scent

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They say great minds think alike just last night I made a

blend containing some of these oils did not even think of a name for it

yet.

New no name (21/04/2012)

Top notes May chang, Ambrette, Nag champa, Davana, Geranium

Middle notes Roasted cofee, Chocolate, Honeysuckle, Saffron

Top Notes vetiver, Patchouli, Cedarwood, Oakmoss, musk

peace

Jamal

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>

> They say great minds think alike just last night I made a

> blend containing some of these oils did not even think of a name for it

> yet.

>

> New no name (21/04/2012)

> Top notes May chang, Ambrette, Nag champa, Davana, Geranium

> Middle notes Roasted cofee, Chocolate, Honeysuckle, Saffron

> Top Notes vetiver, Patchouli, Cedarwood, Oakmoss, musk

> peace

> Jamal

>

Hello Jamal,

I am intrigued about which pure essential oils you use for HONEYSUCKLE and MUSK

(what is Musk peace?) because as far as I know, honeysuckle only exists as an

aromachemical and natural perfumers use Ambrette seed (hibiscus) or

seed for the musky smell?

Isabelle

www.lesparfumsisabelle.co.uk

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Hey Jamal

I don't have a name for my creation either!

I've been messing about with another idea today, once I'm inspired I have to do

something about it immediately.

Beth

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Isabelle,

I have to admit that the honeysuckle is not natural, when it comes to a few

drops here and there i do put synthetics. i mean the other day i made a scent

that I wanted the use of peach and melon and could not find essential oils for

it and i needed that peach and melon smell so I added a couple drops of

synthetic melon and peach, it smells great the way i wanted. The white musk that

I use aswell, I cannot stay 100% naturalif i want the scent to smell they way i

want it.I have to cheat a little, However 95+% of my oils are natural essential

oils.

peace

jamal

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> Be careful when buying products labeled as " japanese honeysuckle extract " .

There are companies selling this to be used in cosmetics as a preservative.

These are not simple alcohol tincture-type extracts.

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> " Japanese Honeysuckle Extract (tradename Plantservative) contains a compound

called parahydroxy benzoic acid, the chemical on which parabens are based, and

one that has been proven to act estrogenically like synthetic parabens. "

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http://chemicaloftheday.squarespace.com/most-controversial/2010/6/25/hugo-natura\

ls-responds-to-japanese-honeysuckle-claims.html

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http://chemicaloftheday.squarespace.com/most-controversial/2010/5/8/the-final-wo\

rd-on-japanese-honeysuckle-extract.html

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http://chemicaloftheday.squarespace.com/most-controversial/2010/7/6/manufacturer\

-opens-up-about-japanese-honeysuckle-extract.html

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Thanks for posting!

This is precisely why I don't use this as a preservative system in my oil and

water emulsions. It's similar to the issue with Grapefruit Seed Extract.

Maggie

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> > There is a problem in that case for us natural perfumers, it means we cannot

be 100% natural, since we use absolutes that are not fully natural. I mean my

soaps are supposed to be natural but I have to use some synthetic fragrances,

however I consider my soaps 100% natural handmade.So am I wrong themn to

consider them as natural.

First of all - it is incorrect to say that you " have to use some synthetic

fragrances " in your soaps. You most certainly do not " have to " . You choose to.

There are zillions of handcrafted soap makers who do not use synthetic

fragrances.

And yes, you are absolutely wrong to consider your soaps natural.

They " may " be handmade if you are actually making the soap from raw materials.

But if you add synthetic fragrances or artificial colors - those soaps are NOT

natural.

Many people do not think of soaps as natural because of the fact that there is a

pretty dramatic chemical reaction that takes place during saponification. That

is why when I drafted the criteria for " natural " when I ran the Natural

Ingredient Resource Center - I specifically created a soap exemption to allow

" true soap " made without synthetics, to be labeled natural and display the NIRC

seal.

http://www.naturalingredient.org/naturalingredients.htm

and scroll down to " Q. ~ Is there such a thing as " Natural Soap " ? "

on this page: http://www.naturalingredient.org/resources.htm