Co distillation of rose and Jasmime

[Guest guest]

I want to jump in and give some information. You can do distillations of jasmine

flowers and like the rose the reason for hydro distillation and not steam only

is that the plant material would compact together and not let the steam pass

through, this is why they distill with hydro-distillation. Second jasmine will

give off lots of scent but yeild very little oil, you will get a great hydrosol

but probable a few drops of oil. Example, last year I distilled rose geranium

75 pounds of plant material flowers and leaves gave me 3 gallons of hydrosol and

just 12 ml. of essential oil. I have been doing testing on flowers that have

strong scents that do not produce oils. I have been doing hydro-distillation

with a small amount of fractionated coconut oil in the receiver for the hydrosol

to pass through while being condensed It transfer any microscopic amounts of oil

to the coconut oil thus capturing the smell of the plant material.

I had last year access to lots of plumeria flowers to try this with. it worked

very well and I have a strong flower scented oil. The point being that in Attar

making the same idea of distilling into sandalwood oil. it could be others.

and the last point to make

it takes 8,800 pounds of rose flowers to make a pound of rose otto.

in San Francisco

[Guest guest]

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> I want to jump in and give some information. You can do distillations of

jasmine flowers and like the rose the reason for hydro distillation and not

steam only is that the plant material would compact together and not let the

steam pass through, this is why they distill with hydro-distillation. Second

jasmine will give off lots of scent but yeild very little oil, you will get a

great hydrosol but probable a few drops of oil. Example, last year I distilled

rose geranium 75 pounds of plant material flowers and leaves gave me 3 gallons

of hydrosol and just 12 ml. of essential oil. I have been doing testing on

flowers that have strong scents that do not produce oils. I have been doing

hydro-distillation with a small amount of fractionated coconut oil in the

receiver for the hydrosol to pass through while being condensed It transfer any

microscopic amounts of oil to the coconut oil thus capturing the smell of the

plant material.

> I had last year access to lots of plumeria flowers to try this with. it worked

very well and I have a strong flower scented oil. The point being that in Attar

making the same idea of distilling into sandalwood oil. it could be others.

> and the last point to make

> it takes 8,800 pounds of rose flowers to make a pound of rose otto.

>

> in San Francisco

>

, this is Brilliant!!

Thank you so much for sharing, and FCO is soluble in alcohol, so you can actualy

use it as a perfume ingredient... wow!

may I go so far as to ask about ammounts? how much FCO for how much plant

material you use?

and then what do you call this? infused FCO, diluted EO?

I don't know if others have thought of this, or used this technique but I am

'wow'ed completely.

suddenly the options seem endless.... I even want to try it with other oils in

the recieving vesel.... and you can make flavored olive oil for culinary

uses.... and attar like home inventions...... how wonderful.

Thank you Thank you Thank you

Hemla (in Israel)

[Guest guest]

Although a 'silent novice' member, I've read with interest all of the posts

and this latest thread regarding Jasmine is a subject perhaps I can write

about.

As a newbie I've been working solely with Fractionated Coconut Oil and

Natural EO's.

This past summer (I'm in the Southern Hemisphere NZ) I experimented with

any scented material I could lay my hands on. Using a simple tincture

method I was able to get a small amount of Jasmine flowers towards the end

of the season. The results were extremely good and I have to say of all

the tinctures I made that one has been the most powerful fragrance captured.

The process was simply to put the collected flowers, many were unopened,

into a small jar with the FCO. Shake each day and then strain through a

coffee filter after a few days when the flowers were translucent, repeat

this process until no more flowers were available...I think I had three

handfuls in all...in just enough FCO to cover.

That was about 4 months ago and the scent is very stiking for such a small

amount and quite close to a true Jasmine scent. My rose tinctures were good

but had a honeylike background scent. I would certainly encourage you all

to gather any Jasmine available to you and give it a try! I used a very

common Jasmine that is found in gardens and even roadsides here, but is

actually now classed as a noxious weed due to its ability to take over.

But thankfully it can still be found. I didn't find my source until the

end of summer, it was growing in the shade on a roadside so had few

flowers. I think if I'd been able to get more the amount of 'free' Jasmine

fragrance would have been very powerful indeed.

Of course I am now keeping my eyes peeled for a suitable supply that I can

covert this coming spring! Should you give it a try please share your

results with us here...I'd love to hear your success stories.

Lilley

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On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 9:53 AM, Lilley son <

lilleystephenson@...> wrote:

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>

> As a newbie I've been working solely with Fractionated Coconut Oil and

> Natural EO's.

> This past summer (I'm in the Southern Hemisphere NZ) I experimented with

> any scented material I could lay my hands on. Using a simple tincture

> method I was able to get a small amount of Jasmine flowers towards the end

> of the season. The results were extremely good and I have to say of all

> the tinctures I made that one has been the most powerful fragrance

> captured.

>

Hi Lilley - it's lovely to hear from another NZer! I love that jasmine as

well. I'll email you offlist if that's okay!

Best wishes

Johanna

[Guest guest]

! " I used a very

common Jasmine that is found in gardens and even roadsides here, but is

actually now classed as a noxious weed due to its ability to take over.  "

Lilly

Is the jasmine Trachlospermum? I have some and they tincture beautifully.

Aer

[Guest guest]

Aer,

Thanks to Johanna the correct name of the variety I used is called *Jasminum

polyanthum

*and she refers to it being also called Pink Jasmine as the new flowers

have a warm pink stem when unopened. I was so thrilled by the intensity of

the tincture when only a small amount of the flowers had been used. That

intensity has improved with age so I have high hopes for this tincture's

use in my perfumes.

Lilley

[Guest guest]

" Thanks to Johanna the correct name of the variety I used is called *Jasminum

polyanthum

*and she refers to it being also called Pink Jasmine as the new flowers

have a warm pink stem when unopened. I was so thrilled by the intensity of

the tincture when only a small amount of the flowers had been used. That

intensity has improved with age so I have high hopes for this tincture's

use in my perfumes.

Lilley  "

Oh yes, those are very nice. I have two of those plants, and they bloomed in

spring here, and I am told they will bloom again in fall. They do not grow wild

here at all, our winters are too harsh. These are my favorite true jasmines,

when I can get a good strong tincture going, I prefer them over J.grandi or J.

Sambac. My second fav is African jasmine (J.tortuosum). Your tincture sounds

very lovely!

Aer