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> Hi All,

>

> I thought I'd share an interesting experience. As I am so focused

on

> improving the nutritional value of my diet, I forget sometimes that

> others give it no thought at all and even go in the opposite

> direction of developing new ways to eat unhealthy foods!

>

> I attended a " Bay Appreciation Day " here in MD for the Chesapeake

Bay

> this past weekend. One of the food vendors was selling " Deep Fried

> Twinkies " and " Deep Fried Oreos " (in peanut oil). They offered me

a

> sample, but I couldn't bring myself to try it.

>

> Peanut oil isn't the worst, but why would anyone ever think to deep

> fry a twinkie?!!!

>

>

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Were they local, Chesapeake Bay twinkies? I always try to get mine

from nearby sea ports, because I figure that more trace minerals slip

in that way. But when I make when deep-fried twinkies I always use

walnut oil instead of peanut oil for the extra PUFA's and I turn the

temperature up a little higher to help caramelize the sugar frosting

and bring out more of the walnut flavor. Also, I always throw away

the first batch and reheat the oil to improve the flavor, just like

when making green tea. I've gotten a lot of these tips from talking

to people at my local health food store, and some of these people are

so dedicated to health they even make **their own** smoothies at home

instead of buying the pre-made stuff from Dannon, so they definitely

know what they're talking about. I'll get there one day too. Also,

I stopped making deep-fried Oreos after someone in the store told me

there was something bad about Oreos; i can't remember exactly what it

was, some kind of chemical that's in butter and meat too. It sounded

pretty scary, so I don't want to take any chances. Also, one of the

clerks at the store pointed out to me that it would be better to

switch to twinkies anyway because they're lower in saturated fat.

Needless to say, I only buy the **organic** twinkies from my health

food store (unless they're out of stock, then I just use some from

the stockpile of conventional twinkies I keep in a closet at home

just for those rare situations.) Another benefit to the organic

twinkies is that they use **brown** sugar, which is supposed to have

a lot more vitamins. Also, I heard that since I'm using a vegetable

oil, I'm not losing any of the vitamins in the deep-frying process.

It really feels great to eat food that's good for you AND tastes

great, although I do miss the deep-fried Oreos, so I sneak them in

sometimes (but only about once a week, I'm pretty disciplined). The

best thing about the twinkies is that just one counts as a full

serving of grains towards my goal on the food pyramid! And it's so

easy to eat 5 or 6 in one serving without feeling full! When I add

that to all the servings I get from my organic wheat bread (the dark

kind), it almost feels like bonus points! I mean, they say 6 to 11

servings per day, but I can usually get way above that, over 20 if

i'm careful to avoid too much fruit (I know it's bad for my

diabetes). I look forward to getting more health tips from everyone

on this list! By the way, what is the " NT " that everyone mentions in

their posts? I've never seen that before on any of my other health-

lists.

Mike

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They were deep frying snickers bars over here on the west coast. when i was

growing up it was deep fried ice cream.

elaine

> Peanut oil isn't the worst, but why would anyone ever think to deep

> fry a twinkie?!!!

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LMAO

> Were they local, Chesapeake Bay twinkies? I always try to get mine

> from nearby sea ports, because I figure that more trace minerals slip

> in that way. But when I make when deep-fried twinkies I always use

> walnut oil instead of peanut oil for the extra PUFA's and I turn the

> temperature up a little higher to help caramelize the sugar frosting

> and bring out more of the walnut flavor. Also, I always throw away

> the first batch and reheat the oil to improve the flavor, just like

> when making green tea. I've gotten a lot of these tips from talking

> to people at my local health food store, and some of these people are

> so dedicated to health they even make **their own** smoothies at home

> instead of buying the pre-made stuff from Dannon, so they definitely

> know what they're talking about. I'll get there one day too. Also,

> I stopped making deep-fried Oreos after someone in the store told me

> there was something bad about Oreos; i can't remember exactly what it

> was, some kind of chemical that's in butter and meat too. It sounded

> pretty scary, so I don't want to take any chances. Also, one of the

> clerks at the store pointed out to me that it would be better to

> switch to twinkies anyway because they're lower in saturated fat.

> Needless to say, I only buy the **organic** twinkies from my health

> food store (unless they're out of stock, then I just use some from

> the stockpile of conventional twinkies I keep in a closet at home

> just for those rare situations.) Another benefit to the organic

> twinkies is that they use **brown** sugar, which is supposed to have

> a lot more vitamins. Also, I heard that since I'm using a vegetable

> oil, I'm not losing any of the vitamins in the deep-frying process.

> It really feels great to eat food that's good for you AND tastes

> great, although I do miss the deep-fried Oreos, so I sneak them in

> sometimes (but only about once a week, I'm pretty disciplined). The

> best thing about the twinkies is that just one counts as a full

> serving of grains towards my goal on the food pyramid! And it's so

> easy to eat 5 or 6 in one serving without feeling full! When I add

> that to all the servings I get from my organic wheat bread (the dark

> kind), it almost feels like bonus points! I mean, they say 6 to 11

> servings per day, but I can usually get way above that, over 20 if

> i'm careful to avoid too much fruit (I know it's bad for my

> diabetes). I look forward to getting more health tips from everyone

> on this list! By the way, what is the " NT " that everyone mentions in

> their posts? I've never seen that before on any of my other health-

> lists.

>

> Mike

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>fruit (I know it's bad for my

>diabetes). I look forward to getting more health tips from everyone

>on this list! By the way, what is the " NT " that everyone mentions in

>their posts? I've never seen that before on any of my other health-

>lists.

>

>Mike

Wow! Talk about great minds think alike! I agree

with everything you said. Except of course

I only use GLUTEN FREE Twinkies and fry them in

Longhorn lard.

-- Heidi

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In a message dated 11/5/03 6:34:37 AM Eastern Standard Time,

mmarasco@... writes:

> Ps- Don't forget the other advantage you have over all those " raw "

> and " fresh " food eaters. In the event of an apocalyptic episode

> you'll be totally stocked with food that will last you for all

> eternity in those Twinkies. I wonder if deep frying them helps them

> last even longer?

Maybe hydrogenating them would extend the shelf life.

Chris

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Mike you got problems! ;-)

Ps- Don't forget the other advantage you have over all those " raw "

and " fresh " food eaters. In the event of an apocalyptic episode

you'll be totally stocked with food that will last you for all

eternity in those Twinkies. I wonder if deep frying them helps them

last even longer?

DMM

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> --- In , " kili94 " <lm324@j...>

wrote:

> > Hi All,

> >

> > I thought I'd share an interesting experience. As I am so

focused

> on

> > improving the nutritional value of my diet, I forget sometimes

that

> > others give it no thought at all and even go in the opposite

> > direction of developing new ways to eat unhealthy foods!

> >

> > I attended a " Bay Appreciation Day " here in MD for the

Chesapeake

> Bay

> > this past weekend. One of the food vendors was selling " Deep

Fried

> > Twinkies " and " Deep Fried Oreos " (in peanut oil). They offered

me

> a

> > sample, but I couldn't bring myself to try it.

> >

> > Peanut oil isn't the worst, but why would anyone ever think to

deep

> > fry a twinkie?!!!

> >

> >

> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

>

> Were they local, Chesapeake Bay twinkies? I always try to get

mine

> from nearby sea ports, because I figure that more trace minerals

slip

> in that way. But when I make when deep-fried twinkies I always

use

> walnut oil instead of peanut oil for the extra PUFA's and I turn

the

> temperature up a little higher to help caramelize the sugar

frosting

> and bring out more of the walnut flavor. Also, I always throw

away

> the first batch and reheat the oil to improve the flavor, just

like

> when making green tea. I've gotten a lot of these tips from

talking

> to people at my local health food store, and some of these people

are

> so dedicated to health they even make **their own** smoothies at

home

> instead of buying the pre-made stuff from Dannon, so they

definitely

> know what they're talking about. I'll get there one day too.

Also,

> I stopped making deep-fried Oreos after someone in the store told

me

> there was something bad about Oreos; i can't remember exactly what

it

> was, some kind of chemical that's in butter and meat too. It

sounded

> pretty scary, so I don't want to take any chances. Also, one of

the

> clerks at the store pointed out to me that it would be better to

> switch to twinkies anyway because they're lower in saturated

fat.

> Needless to say, I only buy the **organic** twinkies from my

health

> food store (unless they're out of stock, then I just use some from

> the stockpile of conventional twinkies I keep in a closet at home

> just for those rare situations.) Another benefit to the organic

> twinkies is that they use **brown** sugar, which is supposed to

have

> a lot more vitamins. Also, I heard that since I'm using a

vegetable

> oil, I'm not losing any of the vitamins in the deep-frying

process.

> It really feels great to eat food that's good for you AND tastes

> great, although I do miss the deep-fried Oreos, so I sneak them in

> sometimes (but only about once a week, I'm pretty disciplined).

The

> best thing about the twinkies is that just one counts as a full

> serving of grains towards my goal on the food pyramid! And it's

so

> easy to eat 5 or 6 in one serving without feeling full! When I

add

> that to all the servings I get from my organic wheat bread (the

dark

> kind), it almost feels like bonus points! I mean, they say 6 to

11

> servings per day, but I can usually get way above that, over 20 if

> i'm careful to avoid too much fruit (I know it's bad for my

> diabetes). I look forward to getting more health tips from

everyone

> on this list! By the way, what is the " NT " that everyone mentions

in

> their posts? I've never seen that before on any of my other health-

> lists.

>

> Mike

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I have some friends who own a Mcs Chocolate muffin that is almost

three years old and has not been touched by mould or decomposed in any way.

Maccas must be using pretty strong kefir to ferment them.

Joanne

Re: Deep Fried Twinkies

> Mike you got problems! ;-)

>

> Ps- Don't forget the other advantage you have over all those " raw "

> and " fresh " food eaters. In the event of an apocalyptic episode

> you'll be totally stocked with food that will last you for all

> eternity in those Twinkies. I wonder if deep frying them helps them

> last even longer?

>

> DMM

>

>

> > > Hi All,

> > >

> > > I thought I'd share an interesting experience. As I am so

> focused

> > on

> > > improving the nutritional value of my diet, I forget sometimes

> that

> > > others give it no thought at all and even go in the opposite

> > > direction of developing new ways to eat unhealthy foods!

> > >

> > > I attended a " Bay Appreciation Day " here in MD for the

> Chesapeake

> > Bay

> > > this past weekend. One of the food vendors was selling " Deep

> Fried

> > > Twinkies " and " Deep Fried Oreos " (in peanut oil). They offered

> me

> > a

> > > sample, but I couldn't bring myself to try it.

> > >

> > > Peanut oil isn't the worst, but why would anyone ever think to

> deep

> > > fry a twinkie?!!!

> > >

> > >

> > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

> >

> > Were they local, Chesapeake Bay twinkies? I always try to get

> mine

> > from nearby sea ports, because I figure that more trace minerals

> slip

> > in that way. But when I make when deep-fried twinkies I always

> use

> > walnut oil instead of peanut oil for the extra PUFA's and I turn

> the

> > temperature up a little higher to help caramelize the sugar

> frosting

> > and bring out more of the walnut flavor. Also, I always throw

> away

> > the first batch and reheat the oil to improve the flavor, just

> like

> > when making green tea. I've gotten a lot of these tips from

> talking

> > to people at my local health food store, and some of these people

> are

> > so dedicated to health they even make **their own** smoothies at

> home

> > instead of buying the pre-made stuff from Dannon, so they

> definitely

> > know what they're talking about. I'll get there one day too.

> Also,

> > I stopped making deep-fried Oreos after someone in the store told

> me

> > there was something bad about Oreos; i can't remember exactly what

> it

> > was, some kind of chemical that's in butter and meat too. It

> sounded

> > pretty scary, so I don't want to take any chances. Also, one of

> the

> > clerks at the store pointed out to me that it would be better to

> > switch to twinkies anyway because they're lower in saturated

> fat.

> > Needless to say, I only buy the **organic** twinkies from my

> health

> > food store (unless they're out of stock, then I just use some from

> > the stockpile of conventional twinkies I keep in a closet at home

> > just for those rare situations.) Another benefit to the organic

> > twinkies is that they use **brown** sugar, which is supposed to

> have

> > a lot more vitamins. Also, I heard that since I'm using a

> vegetable

> > oil, I'm not losing any of the vitamins in the deep-frying

> process.

> > It really feels great to eat food that's good for you AND tastes

> > great, although I do miss the deep-fried Oreos, so I sneak them in

> > sometimes (but only about once a week, I'm pretty disciplined).

> The

> > best thing about the twinkies is that just one counts as a full

> > serving of grains towards my goal on the food pyramid! And it's

> so

> > easy to eat 5 or 6 in one serving without feeling full! When I

> add

> > that to all the servings I get from my organic wheat bread (the

> dark

> > kind), it almost feels like bonus points! I mean, they say 6 to

> 11

> > servings per day, but I can usually get way above that, over 20 if

> > i'm careful to avoid too much fruit (I know it's bad for my

> > diabetes). I look forward to getting more health tips from

> everyone

> > on this list! By the way, what is the " NT " that everyone mentions

> in

> > their posts? I've never seen that before on any of my other health-

> > lists.

> >

> > Mike

>

>

>

>

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Funny you should mention that...just last night I was trying to

remember for my 7 year old what foods have successfully been nailed

to the wall and left for years without deterioration.... Was it

Twinkies? Or was it Quarter Pounders?

Of course, this is an entirely different protocol from that used when

one tosses spaghetti to the ceiling to see if it's done. (It sticks

if it's done.)

(About to bust a gut trying to laugh silently so the office doesn't

find out how I spend my time...)

> > > > Hi All,

> > > >

> > > > I thought I'd share an interesting experience. As I am so

> > focused

> > > on

> > > > improving the nutritional value of my diet, I forget sometimes

> > that

> > > > others give it no thought at all and even go in the opposite

> > > > direction of developing new ways to eat unhealthy foods!

> > > >

> > > > I attended a " Bay Appreciation Day " here in MD for the

> > Chesapeake

> > > Bay

> > > > this past weekend. One of the food vendors was selling " Deep

> > Fried

> > > > Twinkies " and " Deep Fried Oreos " (in peanut oil). They

offered

> > me

> > > a

> > > > sample, but I couldn't bring myself to try it.

> > > >

> > > > Peanut oil isn't the worst, but why would anyone ever think to

> > deep

> > > > fry a twinkie?!!!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

> > >

> > > Were they local, Chesapeake Bay twinkies? I always try to get

> > mine

> > > from nearby sea ports, because I figure that more trace minerals

> > slip

> > > in that way. But when I make when deep-fried twinkies I always

> > use

> > > walnut oil instead of peanut oil for the extra PUFA's and I turn

> > the

> > > temperature up a little higher to help caramelize the sugar

> > frosting

> > > and bring out more of the walnut flavor. Also, I always throw

> > away

> > > the first batch and reheat the oil to improve the flavor, just

> > like

> > > when making green tea. I've gotten a lot of these tips from

> > talking

> > > to people at my local health food store, and some of these

people

> > are

> > > so dedicated to health they even make **their own** smoothies at

> > home

> > > instead of buying the pre-made stuff from Dannon, so they

> > definitely

> > > know what they're talking about. I'll get there one day too.

> > Also,

> > > I stopped making deep-fried Oreos after someone in the store

told

> > me

> > > there was something bad about Oreos; i can't remember exactly

what

> > it

> > > was, some kind of chemical that's in butter and meat too. It

> > sounded

> > > pretty scary, so I don't want to take any chances. Also, one of

> > the

> > > clerks at the store pointed out to me that it would be better to

> > > switch to twinkies anyway because they're lower in saturated

> > fat.

> > > Needless to say, I only buy the **organic** twinkies from my

> > health

> > > food store (unless they're out of stock, then I just use some

from

> > > the stockpile of conventional twinkies I keep in a closet at

home

> > > just for those rare situations.) Another benefit to the

organic

> > > twinkies is that they use **brown** sugar, which is supposed to

> > have

> > > a lot more vitamins. Also, I heard that since I'm using a

> > vegetable

> > > oil, I'm not losing any of the vitamins in the deep-frying

> > process.

> > > It really feels great to eat food that's good for you AND tastes

> > > great, although I do miss the deep-fried Oreos, so I sneak them

in

> > > sometimes (but only about once a week, I'm pretty disciplined).

> > The

> > > best thing about the twinkies is that just one counts as a full

> > > serving of grains towards my goal on the food pyramid! And it's

> > so

> > > easy to eat 5 or 6 in one serving without feeling full! When I

> > add

> > > that to all the servings I get from my organic wheat bread (the

> > dark

> > > kind), it almost feels like bonus points! I mean, they say 6 to

> > 11

> > > servings per day, but I can usually get way above that, over 20

if

> > > i'm careful to avoid too much fruit (I know it's bad for my

> > > diabetes). I look forward to getting more health tips from

> > everyone

> > > on this list! By the way, what is the " NT " that everyone

mentions

> > in

> > > their posts? I've never seen that before on any of my other

health-

> > > lists.

> > >

> > > Mike

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Ok, I give up - what ARE THEY????

And if anyone has the ref for the cereal box experiment, do post it! I also

remember it from the dim & distant past and would like to check it out

..

Helen

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Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 14:08:39 -0000

From: " Dr. Marasco " <mmarasco@...>

Subject: Re: [Native Nutrition] Deep Fried Twinkies

You make light of the benefits of wrappers Amy, but I distinctly

remember reading studies in college where they fed rats, breakfast

cereal and the controls the breakfast ceral BOX and the BOX eaters

fared BETTER! Don't knock it til ya try it! ;-)

DMM

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> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:30:31 -0500

> From: " Amy Lee Waters " <amyleewaters@...>

> Subject: Re: [Native Nutrition] Deep Fried Twinkies

>

> I feel like I have been beaten and tickled at the same time. By the way

are those prepared in the wrapper or is the wrapper removed. I believe the

plastics council has been promoting the healthy aspects of plastic and I

sure wouldn't want to miss out on any vital nutrients that might be

contained in those wrappers.

> Amy

>

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See page 468 of Nourishing Traditions in the sidebar for more details.

--- In , " Helen East " <helen@p...>

wrote:

> Ok, I give up - what ARE THEY????

>

> And if anyone has the ref for the cereal box experiment, do post

it! I also

> remember it from the dim & distant past and would like to check it

out

> .

>

> Helen

> _________________

>

> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 14:08:39 -0000

> From: " Dr. Marasco " <mmarasco@c...>

> Subject: Re: [Native Nutrition] Deep Fried Twinkies

>

> You make light of the benefits of wrappers Amy, but I distinctly

> remember reading studies in college where they fed rats, breakfast

> cereal and the controls the breakfast ceral BOX and the BOX eaters

> fared BETTER! Don't knock it til ya try it! ;-)

>

> DMM

> __________________

>

>

> > Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:30:31 -0500

> > From: " Amy Lee Waters " <amyleewaters@c...>

> > Subject: Re: [Native Nutrition] Deep Fried Twinkies

> >

> > I feel like I have been beaten and tickled at the same time. By

the way

> are those prepared in the wrapper or is the wrapper removed. I

believe the

> plastics council has been promoting the healthy aspects of plastic

and I

> sure wouldn't want to miss out on any vital nutrients that might be

> contained in those wrappers.

> > Amy

> >

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