Guest guest Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 I already posted this on Facebook, but I thought I would share this here as well, and I'm also going to go into more detail. I didn't want to bore people with any technical details of perfumery. A few weeks ago a friend asked me to do a sampaguita perfume for her. Sampaguita is the name used for the jasmine sambac species in the Philippines. In fact it's the national flower. She is of Philippino descent. She looked on line and as she put it " All they have is that fakey stuff " . I was delighted to make perfume for her. She had idea for an oil-based roll-on, but I wanted to make a solid perfume. So she bought a really cool carved, small soapstone box. In addition to jasmine sambac ( I used both the absolute and the concrete), I added a couple other Philippine ingredients; ylang ylang and elemi, a resin that smells like frankincense. I used sandalwood, because she loves it, and I used a base oil of virgin coconut oil that I macerated Tahitian vanilla beans in, some citrus(tropical lime being one of them), some resins and plant-based musk. I was so anxious as to whether she would like it or not. She loved it! I was so happy. Apparently others liked it too. Score! I thought the concrete would just dissolve into the oil and the bit of beeswax I used, but I was wrong! I also tried using some benzoin and that was also hard to incorporate. Maybe that was why the concrete wouldn't mix in. Also, the vanilla was much stronger than I thought! In the bottle and on the few smudges I used to judge how the maceration was going the vanilla was very light. But in the perfume it just bloomed. Good thing it was vanilla, which most everyone likes and an overdose is not such a bad thing. In any case it worked and my friend loved her perfume, so that's all that matters. I just wonder if I could get the concrete and benzoin to incorporate easier next time. Here are the notes: Top: Orange, Lime, Elemi, Rosewood, Coconut(this can't be smelled much in the blend, but I used virgin coconut oil as the base oil, so the scent of coconut is swirling around in there somewhere) Heart: Jasmine Sambac absolute, Jasmine Sambac concrete, Ylang Ylang absolute Base: Storax( this also came out much stronger than intended but worked), Tahitian Vanilla, Vanuatu Sandalwood, Ambrette, Benzoin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 >I already posted this on Facebook, but I thought I would share this here as well, and I'm also going to go into more detail. I didn't want to bore people with any technical details of perfumery. A few weeks ago a friend asked me to do a sampaguita perfume for her. Sampaguita is the name used for the jasmine sambac species in the Philippines. In fact it's the national flower. She is of Philippino descent. She looked on line and as she put it " All they have is that fakey stuff " . I was delighted to make perfume for her. She had idea for an oil-based roll-on, but I wanted to make a solid perfume. So she bought a really cool carved, small soapstone box. In addition to jasmine sambac ( I used both the absolute and the concrete), I added a couple other Philippine ingredients; ylang ylang and elemi, a resin that smells like frankincense. I used sandalwood, because she loves it, and I used a base oil of virgin coconut oil that I macerated Tahitian vanilla beans in, some citrus(tropical lime being one of them), some resins and plant-based musk. I was so anxious as to whether she would like it or not. She loved it! I was so happy. Apparently others liked it too. Hi : It sounds absolutely beautiful! Adding the ylang (Tagalog for " flower of flowers " ) was a brilliant idea! Cat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 Hi : It sounds absolutely beautiful! Adding the ylang (Tagalog for " flower of flowers " ) was a brilliant idea! Cat Thanks Cat! B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 Sounds beautiful ... that's the kind of scent I adore, sweet and floral. I am experimenting with virgin coconut oil for my forthcoming solid perfumes too, I love the hint of coconut scent it gives. I don't work with alcohol and have not used concretes before because I thought it would be so difficult to blend them in oil but it is something I really want to start incorporating into my range of perfumes. How much of the concrete and benzoin disolved in your oil? Apologies to all for the lack of contributions but I've been so busy trying to navigate the regulations of the British business world! Looking forward to contributing more. Marina~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 > > > > > Hi : > It sounds absolutely beautiful! Adding the ylang (Tagalog for " flower of > flowers " ) was a brilliant idea! > Cat > > Thanks Cat! > B. Hi , Congratulations! It's a great feeling to create something that people love isn't it? I feel a kinship to using native plants when I create perfume for clients as well. Your creation sounds divine! Also love VCO and I bet it is wonderful in your perfume. I have a gallon or two of organic VCO sitting here calling my name now... haha! All the best, www.aromaartisan.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 I was so anxious as to whether she would like it or not. She loved it! I was so happy. Apparently others liked it too. Score! ********************************* Congrats on another successful creation! Those friends can be dangerous, I have a similar friend who started me down this wonderful, expensive road wanting a jasmine grandiflorum perfume :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 .. Thanks ! Yes, it surely is a great feeling. I have places as perfume themes often, so I try to use mostly scents that come from that area, whether native or not. Sandalwood, for instance, is SO India(actually A LOT of aromatics are so India). I think I would have to use sandalwood in any perfume that has India as it's inspiration. I made a perfume called Zanzibar(I've always loved that name). So I used clove as a starting point, because that island is a major clove producer and exporter. They also grow black pepper and I believe vanilla, so I put those in as well. I also added nutmeg and cinnamon. And it's a tropical island, so I used my toasted coconut tincture and lime. There are other things as well, but you get the picture. I made one called Bali that is centered around three flowers used in offerings; Frangipani, Champaca, and Ylang Ylang, with coconut(once again). I made three different versions of a perfume centered around coffee and chocolate, I was inspired by the Kona area of the Big Island where those are grown together.   Last summer I went on a cross-country trip, a large portion of which was spent in the Southwest. I fell in love with the native aromatics, especially Pinon Pine resin and Ponderosa Pine bark(which smells like a woody vanilla butterscotch). The whole area has the scents of the conifers; pine, cedars, junipers, wafting around the dry, dusty smell of the earth. I would love to make a perfume centered around that aromatic profile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 ________________________________  Sounds beautiful ... that's the kind of scent I adore, sweet and floral. I am experimenting with virgin coconut oil for my forthcoming solid perfumes too, I love the hint of coconut scent it gives. I don't work with alcohol and have not used concretes before because I thought it would be so difficult to blend them in oil but it is something I really want to start incorporating into my range of perfumes. How much of the concrete and benzoin disolved in your oil? Apologies to all for the lack of contributions but I've been so busy trying to navigate the regulations of the British business world! Looking forward to contributing more. Marina~ Hi Marina, Yes, it is sweet and floral. I would classify it as a floral, perhaps a floriental, because of the sandalwood, vanilla and resins. I think those are the kind of scents that I've had most success with; florals, orientals,gourmands,things with woods, flowers, spices,resins and balsams. I have trouble when it comes to herbal and " green " ingredients.  I've been wanting to use VCO as a solid perfume base for a while, because of the scent. I also would like to use cocoa butter as well sometime. Apricot oil has a nice, soft fruity scent to it too.  Most of the benzoin incorporated into the mix but most of the concrete did not. In spite of that I just tried to emulsify what I could and scraped everything, dissolved or not into the perfume pot. I hate wasting anything. The mixture managed to look homogenous for the most part, other than a smudge of concrete on a small part of the pot edge. I was really surprised that the concrete did not meld with the oil and wax. After all concrete is just waxes and absolute, right? I've tried to dissolve benzoin in jojoba oil and it just didn't work. I wonder how Mandy Aftel does it(benzoin is in her Oud Loban solid perfume)?  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 brian, i have collected a nice container of pine resin (i couldn't say which variety) from the black hills of south dakota... do you have interest in it? i would gladly share.... here's a photo... cheers! einsof Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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