Guest guest Posted October 27, 2003 Report Share Posted October 27, 2003 >and that is the banning of ALL raw milk products. > >this means the death of kefir in australia. >Whey Why the death of kefir? Raw milk kefir would be difficult, but kefir works from any milk. Even powdered (yechh). Have you considered buying a goat? I'm having some calves " raised " by a farmer for me (I don't have a fence myself). I'd expect you could have your own goat and someone else could board it, they do that with horses around here a lot. -- Heidi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2003 Report Share Posted October 27, 2003 i tried kefir in organic pastursied milk and it killed it by tiem 24 hours arised i think if i drank it. woudla killed me raw milk however and the kefir flourishes and grows so fast. that is also a idea however it would cost me to much to do. ( buy a goat have someone house it ect ) _____ From: Heidi Schuppenhauer [mailto:heidis@...] Sent: Monday, 27 October 2003 5:13 PM Subject: Dietary laws >and that is the banning of ALL raw milk products. > >this means the death of kefir in australia. >Whey Why the death of kefir? Raw milk kefir would be difficult, but kefir works from any milk. Even powdered (yechh). Have you considered buying a goat? I'm having some calves " raised " by a farmer for me (I don't have a fence myself). I'd expect you could have your own goat and someone else could board it, they do that with horses around here a lot. -- Heidi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2003 Report Share Posted October 27, 2003 >i tried kefir in organic pastursied milk and it killed it >by tiem 24 hours arised i think if i drank it. woudla killed me That is odd. I'm growing mine in organic pastuerized milk and it is just fine. Lots of other people do too. I have had my kefir die from some milk -- I suspect antibiotics were the culprit. > raw milk however and the kefir flourishes and grows so fast. > >that is also a idea however it would cost me to much to do. >( buy a goat have someone house it ect ) I don't know what it would cost. The calf cost less than I would have thought (about $10 a month) but it doesn't need to be milked. You can " buy " a cow for the whole summer in Switzerland, and get all the artisan cheese produced by that cow, for $250 for the summer. -- Heidi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2003 Report Share Posted October 27, 2003 > i tried kefir in organic pastursied milk and it killed it > by tiem 24 hours arised i think if i drank it. woudla killed me I got my kefir grains from GEM Cultures, and more than a year and a half later, they're still doing just fine on the local, organic, pasteurized, non-homogenized milk. As I understand it, the dairy has the choice of pasteurizing at a higher temperature for a short time or a lower temperature for a longer time, and they use the lower temp method. On the other end of the scale is Big Organic Milk, Inc. that ultrapasteurizes its " milk " to enhance shelf life at the expense of human life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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