Guest guest Posted October 22, 2003 Report Share Posted October 22, 2003 Anne Wigmore ate tons of cheese (about 5 lbs a week ) and seitan as well. My husband used to wrap it up for her (he and another friend were the only ones she trusted) in a plain brown paper bag and someone would pick it up for her weekly. My husband used to manage Erewhon natural food store in Boston in the 70's. He has quite a few tales like that to tell with these so called fanatic gurus who don't practice what they preach LOL! Elainie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2003 Report Share Posted October 23, 2003 btw, what did Atkins die of? http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/10/22/1066631499123.html The Burning Question October 23, 2003 Yet another study has shown that the Atkins diet works. But even the scientist in charge is baffled about why the low-carb regime reduces fat more effectively than conventional low-calorie, low-fat eating plans, s reports. An academic nutritionist at the University of Cincinnati, Dr Bonnie Brehm, is at the cutting edge of research into the biggest question to hit her field in decades: does the Atkins diet work? Most nutritionists faced with the torrent of anecdotal evidence for its effectiveness have simply parroted the mantra that more research is needed, while muttering darkly about possible long-term health effects. Brehm and her colleagues, in contrast, have spent the past few years actually doing the research and will unveil their findings at the American Dietetic Association's annual meeting next week. They have been studying the effectiveness of the Atkins diet in trials involving people classed as clinically obese, implying a weight of more than 92 kilograms (14 stone) in a person 175 centimetres (5 foot, 9 inches) tall. The latest results are in - and they appear to vindicate the late Dr Atkins, whose diet books have sold 15 million copies over 30 years. According to Brehm, those following Atkins's low-carbohydrate diet for four months achieved twice the weight loss of those on a conventional calorie-controlled, low-fat diet. Furthermore, the team found no evidence of harmful effects from following the diet - at least during the study. These results are in line with those found in similar small studies now starting to emerge. As well as backing the claims made for the Atkins diet, these latest results seem to further undermine standard nutritional advice about the need to focus on cutting fat and calories. They are something of an embarrassment to Brehm, whose research is funded by the American Heart Association, which has long advocated calorie-controlled, low-fat diets. As a scientist, Brehm puts unearthing the truth above pleasing her paymasters - but it is this that causes most concern. She is having problems explaining her findings - and in the increasingly vociferous debate over the Atkins diet, that may well land her in trouble at next week's meeting. The scientific world is becoming increasingly polarised over the diet, with researchers such as Brehm being given a tough time over their apparent support for what some scientists regard as the nutritional equivalent of crystal therapy. At the heart of the controversy is the science behind the Atkins diet - first published 30 years ago - and whether it is really anything more than a collection of buzzwords. Conventional wisdom dictates that calories are the key to weight loss, and so those who lose weight must simply be consuming fewer calories than they burn up. Yet, according to Brehm, the obese people who lost weight on the Atkins diet ate and burned up essentially the same number of calories as those on the standard diet. What was very different was the proportion of body fat shed by each group, which mirrored their percentage weight loss. On the face of it, this backs the central claim of the Atkins diet: that a low-carb diet turns the body into a fat-burning machine. To trigger this effect, Atkins dieters are instructed to begin by eliminating all carbohydrates from their diet, forcing their bodies to get energy by burning up fat reserves instead. The result is supposed to be weight loss, plus the production of compounds known as ketones; the higher the level of " ketosis " , the more fat is being burnt. That's the theory. Yet studies of the patients in Brehm's trial failed to reveal a connection between ketosis and fat loss. " We didn't see any correlation - all of our expectations were confounded, " she says. " I'm hoping someone in the audience might have some answers. " Brehm is confident that there is a reasonable, if not simple, explanation for her findings: " In the end, the energy in has got to match the energy out. " Even more baffling is why there are still such enormous gaps in knowledge about how humans respond to diet. The past 20 years have seen obesity reach record levels in the developed world. This has led scientists to concede that the standard advice on nutrition and healthy eating has been an abject failure - yet the Atkins diet is still dismissed as a " fad " by the British Dietetic Association, with leading nutritionists insisting that there is insufficient scientific evidence to give it more credence. This lack of evidence has not deterred many in the medical profession from condemning the diet out of hand. Last week a poll of British doctors revealed that one in four would advise their patients to stay fat rather than try the Atkins diet - despite the proven life-threatening effects of obesity. Such attitudes might suggest that the scientific world is in the grip of cognitive dissonance over the Atkins Diet, preferring to ignore whatever evidence it does not like. Professor Westman, a clinical trials expert at Duke University in North Carolina, and author of a study of the evidence for and against the diet, says, " It is making people re-examine dogma - and it's not always appreciated. " According to his review, which is due to appear in Current Atherosclerosis Reports, studies show that the Atkins diet does produce weight loss over six months, and without obvious health effects. Contrary to the claims of many nutritionists, there is even evidence that it may be healthier than the standard diet: despite its promotion of fat and eggs, studies suggest that the diet may boost levels of the healthy forms of cholesterol. Westman thinks that this unexpected effect may explain a long-standing mystery surrounding heart disease. In the late 1980s, researchers began investigating the unusually low rates of heart attacks and stroke among Eskimo communities in Greenland. Until now, the explanation was thought to lie in their diet of oily fish. Yet attempts to reduce heart disease using supplements of fish oil extracts proved disappointing. Westman says the studies of the Atkins diet point to another explanation: that the lo-carb diet forced on the Inuit by their environment gives them higher levels of healthy forms of cholesterol, which are proven to lower heart disease risk. Despite this, Westman cautions anyone with a medical condition against rushing onto a low-carb diet. " The problem is that it works too well, " he explains. " The diet can cause insulin levels to drop by 50 per cent in one day, so diabetics could find themselves over-medicated. It's the same for those with high blood pressure. " Even so, Westman believes that the results are impressive enough to warrant an intensive research effort on the Atkins diet: " We're in a period when we will learn a lot. " It is not a prospect that thrills the entire nutritional science community. Westman has been vilified for conducting research with financial support from the Atkins Foundation - despite the fact that some vocal critics of the diet, such as Dr Jebb, the head of nutrition at the UK Medical Research Council, have, in turn, received funding from bodies such as the Flour Advisory Bureau. Brehm has also run into resistance even over her research funded by the American Heart Association. " We had a tough time getting our results published - it took 18 months altogether, " she says. " The big journals really couldn't handle it. But we're not endorsing the diet: it's just our results. " What both sides do agree on is the paucity of scientific evidence on the long-term benefits and health effects of the Atkins diet. With the world-wide obesity problem now claiming an estimated 2 million adult lives a year, Brehm believes that the time has come to commit serious resources to studies of low-carb diets. As she says: " We need much more doing - and doing quickly. " This is a sentiment endorsed by Professor Tom , the director of the Nutrition, Food and Health Research Centre at King's College, London - and a sceptic regarding the Atkins diet. " The evidence is that it's the calorie intake that counts, " says. " But in the end, diets don't work because people don't follow them. We need large-scale, randomised and controlled trials of treatments of obesity running for one to two years. " Those already embarked on such research suspect that it will take a great deal to overcome the visceral response the mere mention of Atkins provokes among academics. Says Brehm: " A lot of people just want to hold on to what they learned in college. " The Telegraph, London Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2003 Report Share Posted October 23, 2003 He took the easy way out and fell on the ice, injuring his head! I'm sure everyone was waiting to see how he would die. I remember feeling pretty surprised when the wife of the macrobiotic guy died of cancer. It seems macrobiotics always talked about how it was the anti-cancer diet. Of course i don't know if she was macrobiotic too. That was a great article by the way. Elaine > btw, what did Atkins die of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2003 Report Share Posted October 23, 2003 A bit like Ann Wigmore dying of smoke inhalation (she's the wheatgrass, vegan, raw food woman who founded the Hippocrates Health Centre, she was 84 I think and reportedly very healthy). I think all the vegetarians were shocked when McCartney's wife died of breast cancer too. So far, Bernard Jensen seems to be the winner, dying in his 90s. I wonder what Dr died of and at what age? Well, we'll just have to hold out for Anton now, GO MIKE!!! Filippa ;-) Re: Atkins diet - interesting article He took the easy way out and fell on the ice, injuring his head! I'm sure everyone was waiting to see how he would die. I remember feeling pretty surprised when the wife of the macrobiotic guy died of cancer. It seems macrobiotics always talked about how it was the anti-cancer diet. Of course i don't know if she was macrobiotic too. That was a great article by the way. Elaine > btw, what did Atkins die of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2003 Report Share Posted October 23, 2003 > Well, we'll just have to hold out for Anton now, GO MIKE!!! > > Filippa ;-) thanks! i won't let the team down! mp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2003 Report Share Posted October 23, 2003 Wow, that's interesting!! Thanks so much for the inside goss on this one. I read her books and really wondered about it. I've heard similar stories of vegan raw foodists who quietly have to consume a steak every month to stave off anaemia! Filippa Re: Atkins diet - interesting article Anne Wigmore ate tons of cheese (about 5 lbs a week ) and seitan as well. My husband used to wrap it up for her (he and another friend were the only ones she trusted) in a plain brown paper bag and someone would pick it up for her weekly. My husband used to manage Erewhon natural food store in Boston in the 70's. He has quite a few tales like that to tell with these so called fanatic gurus who don't practice what they preach LOL! Elainie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2003 Report Share Posted October 23, 2003 tell us some more tales! I feel so much better knowing nobody is perfect. Elaine > Anne Wigmore ate tons of cheese (about 5 lbs a week ) and seitan as well. My > husband used to wrap it up for her (he and another friend were the only ones > she trusted) in a plain brown paper bag and someone would pick it up for her > weekly. My husband used to manage Erewhon natural food store in Boston in the > 70's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2003 Report Share Posted October 23, 2003 >> I feel so much better knowing nobody is perfect. << Present company excepted, of course! Right? Christie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2003 Report Share Posted October 23, 2003 yes, the dietary purity of people on this list is a thing to behold. but i like that people experiment with new things, like the warrior diet. Elaine > From: " Christie " <christiekeith@...> > Reply- > Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 23:07:03 -0700 > < > > Subject: Re: Atkins diet - interesting article > >>> I feel so much better knowing nobody is perfect. << > > Present company excepted, of course! Right? > > Christie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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