Guest guest Posted October 14, 2003 Report Share Posted October 14, 2003 > hi joanne, > yes i currently have shares in pat's cows. Do currently get raw butter/cream > from him , does he courier it to you or something? I have a share in Pat's cows too and was buying my raw butter from the Celtic Bakery here on the Gold Coast but they've stopped selling it saying he had problems with his dairy or something. When I spoke to him at the Brisbane organic markets once he mentioned courier-ing it. Is that what you do? > > there are a cpl of problems in australia at the moment though with the dairy > board trying to outlaw all raw milk products ect. They dairy board bullied > the cleopatras guy so much i heard last week he is pulling out of the raw > milk business > ( they even took him to court saying he sold meat at the market with manure > on it. Pretty rediculous ) > and it got thrown out of court to but not before all the hassle he had to go > through with it ect. > > so now we are awaiting the new legislation that is to take effect somewhere > within 8 weeks i hear. Oh this makes me so angry. I'm dreading not being able to buy his divine milk/cream. I know where I can buy raw milk in northern NSW for $1/litre illegally but of course it's unregulated and I'd rather pay for his milk and know it's safe (I bet they're watching him like a hawk). They're only going to drive the whole thing underground. Now I know what I know about pasteurised milk, there's no way I'm going back to it (no wonder I was never really into drinking it). Will have to live where I can have my own cow I expect. Filippa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2003 Report Share Posted October 14, 2003 no at the moment i make a weekly ( sometimes fortnightly ) trip to the markets at northey st i think once the debacle of thsi nonsense from the dairy board is over and Pat sees some light at the tunnel he will branch out into some couriering. There is also a ncie new gentleman at the market swith soem REALLY good quality milk. i had it in my fridge 8-9 days before i used last of the litres i got from him turning it into kefir. Also Pat is getting sour cream, buttermilk to now. ( i had the sour cream first time last weekend and it just rocked ) loved it I am sure though perhaps if you got a few people together for an " order " pat coudl work out a delivery to the coast. it jsut has to be viable for his woudl be all as its a bit of a trip _____ From: filikara [mailto:filippa91@...] Sent: Tuesday, 14 October 2003 9:05 PM Subject: Re: Bloody gvnmt! > hi joanne, > yes i currently have shares in pat's cows. Do currently get raw butter/cream > from him , does he courier it to you or something? I have a share in Pat's cows too and was buying my raw butter from the Celtic Bakery here on the Gold Coast but they've stopped selling it saying he had problems with his dairy or something. When I spoke to him at the Brisbane organic markets once he mentioned courier-ing it. Is that what you do? > > there are a cpl of problems in australia at the moment though with the dairy > board trying to outlaw all raw milk products ect. They dairy board bullied > the cleopatras guy so much i heard last week he is pulling out of the raw > milk business > ( they even took him to court saying he sold meat at the market with manure > on it. Pretty rediculous ) > and it got thrown out of court to but not before all the hassle he had to go > through with it ect. > > so now we are awaiting the new legislation that is to take effect somewhere > within 8 weeks i hear. Oh this makes me so angry. I'm dreading not being able to buy his divine milk/cream. I know where I can buy raw milk in northern NSW for $1/litre illegally but of course it's unregulated and I'd rather pay for his milk and know it's safe (I bet they're watching him like a hawk). They're only going to drive the whole thing underground. Now I know what I know about pasteurised milk, there's no way I'm going back to it (no wonder I was never really into drinking it). Will have to live where I can have my own cow I expect. Filippa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2003 Report Share Posted October 14, 2003 filippa, yes makes me very angry to. However quite a number of people have called ther local parliament members ect and hopefully it will be blocked. It will be a big catastrophe for australia if its totally banned. ( bye bye kefir, whey, saurkraut ect ect ect ) what is on our side is in certain parts within 36 countries in teh world have raw milk. ( well that is 1 angle they are taking ) alogn with a few others. I can tell you now if they do ban it. ill have bougth about 10 litres of milk just before the fatefull day and will sit outside parliament with a sign drinking raw kefir, whey the sign will say this is raw and the dairy board says ill die. and in big letters. Lets find out while i swish down some lovely contraband that would be kefir. _____ From: filikara [mailto:filippa91@...] Sent: Tuesday, 14 October 2003 9:05 PM Subject: Re: Bloody gvnmt! > hi joanne, > yes i currently have shares in pat's cows. Do currently get raw butter/cream > from him , does he courier it to you or something? I have a share in Pat's cows too and was buying my raw butter from the Celtic Bakery here on the Gold Coast but they've stopped selling it saying he had problems with his dairy or something. When I spoke to him at the Brisbane organic markets once he mentioned courier-ing it. Is that what you do? > > there are a cpl of problems in australia at the moment though with the dairy > board trying to outlaw all raw milk products ect. They dairy board bullied > the cleopatras guy so much i heard last week he is pulling out of the raw > milk business > ( they even took him to court saying he sold meat at the market with manure > on it. Pretty rediculous ) > and it got thrown out of court to but not before all the hassle he had to go > through with it ect. > > so now we are awaiting the new legislation that is to take effect somewhere > within 8 weeks i hear. Oh this makes me so angry. I'm dreading not being able to buy his divine milk/cream. I know where I can buy raw milk in northern NSW for $1/litre illegally but of course it's unregulated and I'd rather pay for his milk and know it's safe (I bet they're watching him like a hawk). They're only going to drive the whole thing underground. Now I know what I know about pasteurised milk, there's no way I'm going back to it (no wonder I was never really into drinking it). Will have to live where I can have my own cow I expect. Filippa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2003 Report Share Posted October 14, 2003 " Byron " <anthony.byron@d...> wrote: > no at the moment i make a weekly ( sometimes fortnightly ) trip to the > markets at northey st > i think once the debacle of thsi nonsense from the dairy board is over and > Pat sees some light at the tunnel he will branch out into some couriering. ======> Unfortunately I work Sat mornings but I'll have to work out a way. Good to know he's still there though. > There is also a ncie new gentleman at the market swith soem REALLY good > quality milk. i had it in my fridge 8-9 days before i used last of the > litres i got from him turning it into kefir. ====> Is it raw? > Also Pat is getting sour cream, buttermilk to now. > ( i had the sour cream first time last weekend and it just rocked ) loved it ==> yum yum, been dying for buttermilk. Ok, I'm gonna get myself to the markets! > I am sure though perhaps if you got a few people together for an " order " > pat coudl work out a delivery to the coast. > it jsut has to be viable for his woudl be all > as its a bit of a trip ========> Good idea, I do know a few people so I might look into that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2003 Report Share Posted October 14, 2003 " Byron " <anthony.byron@d...> wrote: > filippa, > yes makes me very angry to. However quite a number of people have called > ther local parliament members ect and hopefully it will be blocked. It will > be a big catastrophe for australia if its totally banned. > ( bye bye kefir, whey, saurkraut ect ect ect ) =======> fingers crossed then! > I can tell you now if they do ban it. ill have bougth about 10 litres of > milk just before the fatefull day > and will sit outside parliament with a sign drinking raw kefir, whey > the sign will say this is raw and the dairy board says ill die. > and in big letters. Lets find out while i swish down some lovely contraband > that would be kefir. ======> Good on you! Well let us know and I'll try and be there with you. Filippa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2003 Report Share Posted October 14, 2003 Yes he is still very much there The other gentleman doign the milk is VERY much raw and better quality than the cleopatras milk. the milk ive gotten from this guy seems to last forever. And on day 1 made better Kefir than i had from the cleopatras milk. Where do you live again? Perhaps on certain weekends i cna collect more product from there for you ect adn you can come collect from my house on a sunday. I live at sunnybank hills. I am " hoping " to try his buttermilk this wekeend as i hear its divine.But i have a wedding to go to this weekend so not sur eif i will be able to make it ( lucky i still got 4 litres of milk left ) _____ From: filikara [mailto:filippa91@...] Sent: Wednesday, 15 October 2003 7:06 AM Subject: Re: Bloody gvnmt! " Byron " <anthony.byron@d...> wrote: > no at the moment i make a weekly ( sometimes fortnightly ) trip to the > markets at northey st > i think once the debacle of thsi nonsense from the dairy board is over and > Pat sees some light at the tunnel he will branch out into some couriering. ======> Unfortunately I work Sat mornings but I'll have to work out a way. Good to know he's still there though. > There is also a ncie new gentleman at the market swith soem REALLY good > quality milk. i had it in my fridge 8-9 days before i used last of the > litres i got from him turning it into kefir. ====> Is it raw? > Also Pat is getting sour cream, buttermilk to now. > ( i had the sour cream first time last weekend and it just rocked ) loved it ==> yum yum, been dying for buttermilk. Ok, I'm gonna get myself to the markets! > I am sure though perhaps if you got a few people together for an " order " > pat coudl work out a delivery to the coast. > it jsut has to be viable for his woudl be all > as its a bit of a trip ========> Good idea, I do know a few people so I might look into that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2003 Report Share Posted October 15, 2003 , can I contact you off the list? I'm in Currumbin on the Gold Coast. Filippa > > no at the moment i make a weekly ( sometimes fortnightly ) trip to > the > > markets at northey st > > i think once the debacle of thsi nonsense from the dairy board is > over and > > Pat sees some light at the tunnel he will branch out into some > couriering. > ======> Unfortunately I work Sat mornings but I'll have to work out > a way. Good to know he's still there though. > > > > There is also a ncie new gentleman at the market swith soem > REALLY good > > quality milk. i had it in my fridge 8-9 days before i used last of > the > > litres i got from him turning it into kefir. > ====> Is it raw? > > > > Also Pat is getting sour cream, buttermilk to now. > > ( i had the sour cream first time last weekend and it just > rocked ) loved it > ==> yum yum, been dying for buttermilk. Ok, I'm gonna get myself to > the markets! > > > I am sure though perhaps if you got a few people together for an " > order " > > pat coudl work out a delivery to the coast. > > it jsut has to be viable for his woudl be all > > as its a bit of a trip > ========> Good idea, I do know a few people so I might look into > that. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2003 Report Share Posted October 15, 2003 hi filippa, yes reach me at anthony.byron@... _____ From: filikara [mailto:filippa91@...] Sent: Wednesday, 15 October 2003 11:29 AM Subject: Re: Bloody gvnmt! , can I contact you off the list? I'm in Currumbin on the Gold Coast. Filippa > > no at the moment i make a weekly ( sometimes fortnightly ) trip to > the > > markets at northey st > > i think once the debacle of thsi nonsense from the dairy board is > over and > > Pat sees some light at the tunnel he will branch out into some > couriering. > ======> Unfortunately I work Sat mornings but I'll have to work out > a way. Good to know he's still there though. > > > > There is also a ncie new gentleman at the market swith soem > REALLY good > > quality milk. i had it in my fridge 8-9 days before i used last of > the > > litres i got from him turning it into kefir. > ====> Is it raw? > > > > Also Pat is getting sour cream, buttermilk to now. > > ( i had the sour cream first time last weekend and it just > rocked ) loved it > ==> yum yum, been dying for buttermilk. Ok, I'm gonna get myself to > the markets! > > > I am sure though perhaps if you got a few people together for an " > order " > > pat coudl work out a delivery to the coast. > > it jsut has to be viable for his woudl be all > > as its a bit of a trip > ========> Good idea, I do know a few people so I might look into > that. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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