Guest guest Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 Yikes, so sorry to hear this, Margaret. Do you know how he fractured it? I would try to get him plastered up sooner than Tuesday if the neurofen and paracetamol aren't controlling the pain but then I am a pretty cautious person. It sounds as though you think there is a pretty high risk of further injury and I think as mums our instinct is often right. Maybe others will have better advice. Thinking of you, Darla HP was showing he was in a lot of pain late morning at school - focusing on the elbow so I took him to A & E. A X-ray showed he had a fracture of the collar bone on the side he was showing the elbow was hurting. In a normal child they would have put the arm in a supportive sling, but they said it was pointless with H so we were sent home and I was told to give him painkillers and go to the fracture clinic on Tuesday. I said there was a risk, because of his autism, that he would injure it further.In fact he has been quite manic and reckless this afternoon - climbing furniture and the newel post of the stairs and jumping down again and again, probably trying to distract himself from the pain.Do you think I need to get him plastered up to prevent further injury?Also he's on full dose ibuprofen and full dose paracetamol, which I don't like too much....Margaret Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 Sorry to hear this Margaret, I would want it plastered as soon as possible, I know my lad would cause more damage. Vicky x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 So sorry to hear this Margaret. Are you giving Vitamin D. It will help to knit the bones properly. Fractured collar bone HP was showing he was in a lot of pain late morning at school - focusing on the elbow so I took him to A & E. A X-ray showed he had a fracture of the collar bone on the side he was showing the elbow was hurting. In a normal child they would have put the arm in a supportive sling, but they said it was pointless with H so we were sent home and I was told to give him painkillers and go to the fracture clinic on Tuesday. I said there was a risk, because of his autism, that he would injure it further.In fact he has been quite manic and reckless this afternoon - climbing furniture and the newel post of the stairs and jumping down again and again, probably trying to distract himself from the pain.Do you think I need to get him plastered up to prevent further injury?Also he's on full dose ibuprofen and full dose paracetamol, which I don't like too much....Margaret Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 Margaret If it were me, I would get a plaster as soon as possible, it's not always easy to think of the right thing to do at the time. I would give them a call. Thinking of you Lara > > So sorry to hear this Margaret. > > Are you giving Vitamin D. It will help to knit the bones properly. > > > Fractured collar bone > > > HP was showing he was in a lot of pain late morning at school - > focusing on the elbow so I took him to A & E. A X-ray showed he had a > fracture of the collar bone on the side he was showing the elbow was > hurting. In a normal child they would have put the arm in a supportive > sling, but they said it was pointless with H so we were sent home and I > was told to give him painkillers and go to the fracture clinic on > Tuesday. I said there was a risk, because of his autism, that he would > injure it further. > In fact he has been quite manic and reckless this afternoon - climbing > furniture and the newel post of the stairs and jumping down again and > again, probably trying to distract himself from the pain. > Do you think I need to get him plastered up to prevent further injury? > Also he's on full dose ibuprofen and full dose paracetamol, which I > don't like too much.... > Margaret > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 --- so sorry to hear this,same thought as Vicky. Take care, Nina In Autism-Biomedical-Europe , MaddiganV@... wrote: > > Sorry to hear this Margaret, I would want it plastered as soon as possible, > I know my lad would cause more damage. > Vicky > x > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 Hi Margaret So sorry to hear about this. Poor Henry and poor you. When fractured his elbow, we were currently under a homeopath. She recommended Symphytum which I'm sure you could get from Helios. Its especially for mending broken bones and is from the Comfrey plant...It really did help george. His fractured bone was healed in 2 to 3 weeks and I think it helped with the pain hugely. He did wear a sling which we thought he wouldn't take to at all. On the contrary, he seemed to realise it was helping him. After 3 weeks the hospital removed it and he got quite upset. Think he thought he'd lost a part of him!! Good luck and thinking of you. Helen x > > HP was showing he was in a lot of pain late morning at school - > focusing on the elbow so I took him to A & E. A X-ray showed he had a > fracture of the collar bone on the side he was showing the elbow was > hurting. In a normal child they would have put the arm in a supportive > sling, but they said it was pointless with H so we were sent home and I > was told to give him painkillers and go to the fracture clinic on > Tuesday. I said there was a risk, because of his autism, that he would > injure it further. > In fact he has been quite manic and reckless this afternoon - climbing > furniture and the newel post of the stairs and jumping down again and > again, probably trying to distract himself from the pain. > Do you think I need to get him plastered up to prevent further injury? > Also he's on full dose ibuprofen and full dose paracetamol, which I > don't like too much.... > Margaret > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 Hi Margaret So sorry to hear this terrible news, god things are never easy are they? Why dont you fone and speak to orthopaedics today and find out the likelihood of more damage. Why are they not doing it now if they intend to do it on Tuesady is what I dont get..... How do you think it happened is he just a wild jumping boy? We had s foot with probably a fracture a coupla years ago and we just kept her Ecco light boots on all the time for support instead of plastering. However according to the Orthapaedic Surgeon who I interrogated, this was the norm for a hairline fracture and plaster wouldn't have had any additional benefits. I know its so awful going thru this type of thing (eg Hospital visits- child in pain combo!!) I'm really praying for you that things are made a bit more comfortable for Henry. In cases like this I wouldn't worry too much about the pain killers if he needs them. Keep those bowels moving if you can and think about the other stuff later. Luv Caroline xxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 Thank you everyone for your helpful messages: good idea to contact the orthopedics people. I know it's usual not to take much action with a child's fractured collar bone, but he is NOT resting the arm!In the old days (so the taxi driver who drove us home told me) they used to plaster up. Then they used a figure of 8 support. These days it's just a sling. I shall ask them to consider one of the old approaches for Henry. Margaret Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 Margaret I broke my collar bone when I was around ten or so. It was horrendously painful, and paracetamol and ibrufen would not touch that pain. I would have thought he needs something MUCH stronger. I also doubt whether it can be plastered, I mean how can you plaster the collar bone? I was given a sling and told to keep it immobile. the ends grind together, until some knitting occurs. I should think they ought to be able to strap his arm to his side and immobilise it. If they deal with the pain properly he will be much less tormented and will be calmer. The collar bone is affected by contra movement so moving his opposite arm, shoulder, will automatically move the broken bone too. Maybe a sedative would help also, but pain killers are the most important thing. Celia > > HP was showing he was in a lot of pain late morning at school - > focusing on the elbow so I took him to A & E. A X-ray showed he had a > fracture of the collar bone on the side he was showing the elbow was > hurting. In a normal child they would have put the arm in a supportive > sling, but they said it was pointless with H so we were sent home and I > was told to give him painkillers and go to the fracture clinic on > Tuesday. I said there was a risk, because of his autism, that he would > injure it further. > In fact he has been quite manic and reckless this afternoon - climbing > furniture and the newel post of the stairs and jumping down again and > again, probably trying to distract himself from the pain. > Do you think I need to get him plastered up to prevent further injury? > Also he's on full dose ibuprofen and full dose paracetamol, which I > don't like too much.... > Margaret > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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