60g carbs per day

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In a message dated 10/8/03 2:15:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

STEVEN.CARROLL@... writes:

> You mention you are on a low carb diet, under 60g per day.

No, I'm actually not. What I said is I have been in the past, excluding milk

carbs and substances from milk which are converted to carbs.

> I have a few questions, by carbs do you refer to starches (such as potato,

> rice, bread, pasta. etc) or are you referring to carbs found in vegetables.

> Or do you mean carbs in sugars.

If I say " carb " I mean carbohydrate, which includes all of those.

> I am not to clear semantically on the use of the words carbs Vs starches.

A starch is a carbohydrate; a carbohydrate is not necessarily a starch. A

starch is a polysacharide (which is also not necessarily a starch), which is a

long string of glucose molecules. Glucose is a simple sugar, also a

monosacharide. Fructose and galactose are other monosacharides. Sugars made of

two

monosacharides are disacharides, and include lactose, maltose, and sucrose.

Sugars of greater length than two monosacharides are polysacharides, the most

common of which, dietarily, is starch, but also glycogen, structural molecules

such as cellulose (plant cell walls) and chitin (insect exoskeletons) or the

various structural polysacharide-proteins in humans, and also the carbohydrate

portions of glycoproteins and glycolipids. Anything made of sugars is a

carbohydrate, hence everything mentioned in this paragraph is a carbohydrate.

> Also I would be interested in a breakdown of one days typical diet for you

> so that I can get a clearer picture of 60g of carbs amounts to.

I am trying to eliminate starches myself and increase fats.

I don't limit myself to 60g carbs, but here's what it looks like anyway:

I have some tea in the morning with a little raw heavy cream and maybe a

quarter teaspoon of raw honey. If I'm hungry, I add a few forkfuls of

sauerkraut

or perhaps a raw egg yolk.

In the afternoon I either have nothing, tea, occasionally coffee, perhaps a

quarter cup of dried coconut, some sauerkraut, or a quarter cup blueberries.

Before I work out I have a quarter pound of raw liver with a half cup of

sauerkraut.

When I get home I have:

A couple raw egg yolks

5 or 6 strips of bacon

3 eggs, cooked in lard, ommelette or scrambled

1/3 pound hamburger

half cup sauerkraut

1/2 cup ice cream (1/2 gallon is 1 quart or more heavy raw cream, 2 cups wild

blueberries, 3-4 tbsp raw honey, six egg yolks)

11/2 quarts or 1/2 gallon of kefir

1/2 or 1 cup of lacto-fermented ginger carrots

1/2 cup ice cream, again

two small potatoes, fried in lard or bacon grease (if bacon grease, whatever

came from my bacon; if lard, a couple tbsp) with spices, one small onion, 5-6

cloves fresh minced garlic

if I'm still hungry I eat a piece of Manna sprouted rye bread with 2 tbsp raw

butter

I dont' know what the carb count is, but if you include the lactic acid

produced in the kefir as a carb, the kefir alone is probably 100g carbs.

Chris

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You mention you are on a low carb diet, under 60g per day.

I have a few questions, by carbs do you refer to starches (such as potato,

rice, bread, pasta. etc) or are you referring to carbs found in vegetables.

Or do you mean carbs in sugars.

I am not to clear semantically on the use of the words carbs Vs starches.

Also I would be interested in a breakdown of one days typical diet for you

so that I can get a clearer picture of 60g of carbs amounts to.

I am trying to eliminate starches myself and increase fats.

>

> As to 's suggestion that one cannot eat 60 g carbs a day without using

> artificial sweeteners, I fail to see how this is the case. For most of the

> last year and a half or so, my carb intake has only exceeded this amount due

> to

> lactic acid in cultured milk, which I would consider an effective carb,

> because

> it is converted to glucose (in some varying proportion). But if milk

> potential carbs are excluded (and I don't mind drinking 48 hour kefir at all),

> I can

> easily keep my carbs to 60 g a day without artificial sweeteners, and am sure

> I've done so.