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Re: could it be the whey?/opioids,bad trips,w/drawal,bladder irritants(grains,anxie)

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>so, my mother has been receiving a tiny amount of whey about every day in

>whatever soaked or fermented item i serve her.

>

>plus, my father has been giving her some supermkt brand of B-50s

>(finast)...might that contain casein?

>

>i'm remembering, heidi, that you had written that a reaction to dairy could

>cause urgency & incontinence. and i find it interesting that that problem went

>away in my mother for 2 wks, only to return w/a vengeance. so i'm wondering if

>it isn't a w/drawal symptom? (if it isn't the tiny amounts of whey.) or maybe

>it's some other irritant entirely. yes, i need to keep a food diary on her.

You SHOULD keep a food diary, regardless. Very useful. As for whey -- TINY

amounts of dried milk seem to set me off, more so than, say, a glass of

raw milk. And yes, it makes me have problems in the urgency department.

I don't know why the dried stuff should be so problematic, but it may have to

do with the high heats Sally talks about. In breads and mixes they always

use dried stuff.

>i also remember that you wrote of a slice of pizza that terrified you. a

>withdrawal symptom from an opioid, which is sedating?

That is what is controversial about the " opioid " theory. It is clear that

gluten and casein have a druglike effect, but for a lot of people the

effect doesn't mimic opioids especially. Medical folks hotly argue

that. It IS clear that gluten (not sure about casein) opens the blood/brain

barrier so who knows WHAT gets in. My usual symptoms are anxiety

and depression, and/or tiredness and sleepiness, but not at the same time.

It isn't withdrawal though, it is about 2 hours after eating (same as

the cold hands, so maybe it is too much cortisol?). When I withdrew

from gluten I DID go into withdrawal but it was more like a week of

total brain fog and inability to move, and severe constipation (so much

so I gave up and had some crackers as a laxative, which I regretted).

>my mother is sedate until someone touches her or until after several bites of

>food. then she screams that she's going to die and that we're trying to kill

>her. which is why i liked that opioid effect ;o)

Well, if I knew of a food that was always calming! Chicken broth puts

me to sleep (earlier post). Turkey is supposed to be worse. One of

the typical Asperger symptoms is sensitivity to touch -- light touch

makes the person hit the roof, but heavy " deep " touch (hugs) are

calming. I wonder how she would react to Benadryl? I used to take

one before bedtime to calm down -- it tends to counteract IgE allergens.

So does a nice glass of red wine, if she'll drink it.

>thanks for letting me think out loud--

>allene

This group is good for that ...

-- Heidi

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