doubts about ionizers? n /Chris

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This was from someone in another group, who doubts the effectiveness of such

devices, Plus there is this link which also claims the units are rubbish.

http://www.chem1.com/CQ/

What do you think guys about this science debunking the units?

" The site had pretty graphics and was ok for about the 1st 3rd. Then the

author went off the rails.' Referring to the ionizes technical claims.

putrefaction is hardly what goes on in the body.

As I understand the device, there is a charcoal filter, followed by a

chamber in which a electrical current is passed through the water.

I would not expect a free negative or positive charge to have a

significant life span in water.

Certainly not long enough to have any affect on someone consuming the water.

This actually sounds somewhat dangerous to me.

Nothing is said about the voltage, or current, and what is happening

when the water is not flowing. ie does the current keep flowing, and

result in accumalation of hydrogen and oxygen?

2HOH + e- -----> 2H2(g) + O2(g)

the idea that electrons just hang out in water is problematical.

It is true that the hydrogen bond strength in water can overcome the

bond strength between Chlorine and Sodium in salt. The Chloride ion is

stablized by the water molecules, BTW several layers of water

molecule, and the Sodium ion is likewise stabilized.

Active oxygen??

This was not in any of the chemistry or biochemistry classes I took.

(BTW I have a ph.d in analytical chemistry)

There is a theory about free radicals in the cells as by products of

oxidation being able to react with DNA and therefore causing cancer.

But these levels are very very much lower than 2 % or 20 % of the oxygen

enhaled.

> Have not tried flow-through and don't know anyone who has. I

> know someone who noticed that there's no smell to their BMs whenever

> they drink the water, and when they don't drink it, there is. When I

> first was drinking it, it was detoxing mercury so much that a fishy

> taste would be discharged from my mouth a moment after taking a

> swallow. (For someone I know who had worked with chemical solvents,

> the taste was bitter.) What then happened was I had this

> uncharacteristically super-rough period (time of month when woman's

> body is in detox mode) where I suddenly craved it so desparately that

> about a gallon a day of the stuff felt like it barely kept me from

> dying of thirst! (At this point, I had worked through the detox taste

> stage, and the water was now tasting like I always thought water

> should taste. It seemed like the most wonderful and thirst-quenching

> drink I'd ever had!) It was really cool. It fixed a low energy

> problem I had. A friend of mine started drinking it and a pin hole

> appeared in the skin over a giant lump on the back of the neck (that

> had been there " forever " ), out

> through which could be squeezed the stinking orangish white ointment-

> consistancy contents, a bit more each day, till it was gone! So it's

> basically a chelator that gets bad disease-causing stuff out of the

> body. But remember the body needs to have enough food nutrients,

> especially when detoxing. And those who can't aford a machine can

> drink kombucha. Just make sure it's good kombucha.<===