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On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 12:20:26 -0400

Idol <Idol@...> wrote:

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>>I've never noticed wine that is labeled " unpasteurized " --is there a

>>particular vintner that does this?

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>Alas, while I know there's unpasteurized wine to be found, I don't know

>where to drink it, since I'm not drinking wine now for cost and weight loss

>reasons. must know of all kinds of sources, though, since he

>sounds like an inveterate wino. <g>

You just have to check on a case by case basis. Ask around. You will be

more apt to find unpasturized wine from either a domestic boutique

winery or France but you will never see a bottle labeled that way. The

situation is so fluid is does no good to recommend any one producer.

(Maybe someday raw wine will be as

>easy to find as raw beer, which now makes up a substantial portion of the

>beer shelf at Fairway on most days.)

>

>>Generally, I like French wine. Pouilly-Fuisse and Sancerre especially. I

>>also like Pinot Grigio. Any advice on what to look for in terms of

>>quality would be appreciated. I don't really drink wine for my

>>health....I think red is better for this.

French wines are quite good

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>Red is the best for health AFAIK, but for certified organic wines, I think

>you're mostly stuck with California, and for raw... well, I don't know.

Unless something has changed recently I know of only one wine producer

who is certified organic and there wine is not that good, at least it

wasn't when I was drinking it. OTOH a number of wines are starting to

mention organic in their label, so perhaps some of them are certified

organic.

>

>>Now that I think about it, some red wines don't give me the sniffles (I do

>>indulge sometimes, even though I generally stay away from the stuff).

>

>Sounds like it could be an additive issue.

Yep. Usually premium wines don't have the level of additives that the

cheaper wines do.

the " wino " :-)

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On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 13:18:14 -0400

" " <jc137@...> wrote:

>Well, I think I'll keep on with my willy-nilly wino ways until I hear how

to determine if it's raw or not. I would guess the French would be the

strictest when it comes to quality/processing, etc. They seem to have

high standards for food in general. As for CA wines....well, I do love

the place, but am not crazy about the grapes they grow there. That

oakey chardonnay is BLECHY!

#####I cut my teeth on the big buttery chardonnays out of California,

and the first time I had one that was really oaked I thought people are

really slumming. But that is the norm these days. IMO, the California

folks overdo it with oak and price, and their is hardly a buttery

chardonnay to be found these days.

Oh well. As far as I'm concerned whites are just a warmups for reds

anyway ;-)

the " wino "

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On Sun, 5 Oct 2003 10:29:54 -0700 (PDT)

Joanne Pollack <jopollack2001@...> wrote:

>I'm very fussy about wine and have only recently

>started to like it. I don't like red at all.

Many folks start out that way, including myself. But palates change and

where once I drank nothing but red wine I got to the point, years later,

where I figured you were wasting my time opening a bottle of white. Of

course now I realize there are great reds and whites.

A great way to to learn reds is simply to buy 4 bottles of a particular

variety, like Zinfandel. Wrap them in brown paper bags, line them up and

open them all up at once. Then have a comparative taste testing. Even

without a trained palate, you will be able to notice the difference in

the wines, even among the same variety of grape.

I have seen a number of people who " hate red wines " all of sudden make a

shift as a result. Drinking a bottle here and there just doesn't work.

Of course the other way is to have a great red wine. Some styles,

varieties and vintages are SOOO GOOD that even the people who hate wine

acknowledge they are good. This is how I got my parents who thought red

wine was the pits. I brought over a very good Zinfandel ($65) and I gave

them a sip. After that I could no longer leave a good bottle at their

place if I expected to have some, LOL!

My

>favourite whie is Gewurtztraminer (or Gewurtzraminer?)

Gewurztraminer

>and my favourite rose is Ernest and Julio Gallo white

>grenache or zinfandel

No comment :-) LOL!

We likes what we likes

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