Guest guest Posted October 21, 2007 Report Share Posted October 21, 2007 Here’s the link for it http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/pages/live/femail/article.html?in_article_id=488760 & in_page_id=1879 >>Oh my, and the yanks get McCarthy. How differently two pairs of eyes view regressive autism Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2007 Report Share Posted October 21, 2007 That was my thoughts exactly Mandi, she makes the point her son did not have MMR and ironically became autistic anyways. I think the grandson of an ex PM would have been a good high profile child, but in this case more for the ND people than us, sigh. Vicky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2007 Report Share Posted October 21, 2007 Here’s the link for it http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/pages/live/femail/article.html?in_article_id=488760 & in_page_id=1879 -----Original Message----- From: Autism-Biomedical-Europe [mailto:Autism-Biomedical-Europe ] On Behalf Of veronicamadigan Sent: 21 October 2007 18:00 To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Subject: Emma Noble Today's Mail on Sunday, Emma Noble's son, grandson of Major has autism. Very upbeat account, apparently wouldn't have him any other way, and feels gifted to have a child with autism. Links at the end to NAS. Vicky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2007 Report Share Posted October 21, 2007 In several of the pictures I noticed she appears to have amalgams in the No 5 premolars. Chances are the molars also have amalgams.So she could well have 12 amalgams (molars and pre-molars). I wonder about the Wisdom teeth. Margaret > > That was my thoughts exactly Mandi, she makes the point her son did not have > MMR and ironically became autistic anyways. I think the grandson of an ex > PM would have been a good high profile child, but in this case more for the > ND people than us, sigh. > Vicky > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2007 Report Share Posted October 21, 2007 Poor kid! Peta-- - In Autism-Biomedical-Europe , " veronicamadigan " wrote: > > Today's Mail on Sunday, Emma Noble's son, grandson of Major has > autism. > Very upbeat account, apparently wouldn't have him any other way, and > feels gifted to have a child with autism. Links at the end to NAS. > Vicky > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2007 Report Share Posted October 21, 2007 Oh Joy! How wonderful she loves her special child the way he is - no need to look at bio med treatment then at all. Thank god, we are not accepting our children's autism, I dred to think how would be now, if we had not found bio med intervention. Lara > > > > Today's Mail on Sunday, Emma Noble's son, grandson of Major has > > autism. > > Very upbeat account, apparently wouldn't have him any other way, and > > feels gifted to have a child with autism. Links at the end to NAS. > > Vicky > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2007 Report Share Posted October 21, 2007 > > > > Today's Mail on Sunday, Emma Noble's son, grandson of Major has > > autism. > > Very upbeat account, apparently wouldn't have him any other way, and > > feels gifted to have a child with autism. Links at the end to NAS. > > Vicky > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 I totally agree with you. I didn't know anyone with an autistic child when Charlie was diagnosed but if i had known someone who was getting their child better then I would have been all over them like a rash. At Charlie's school there are a few autistic kids and the parents must know we are treating him and he is improving but no questions nothing - it must be guilt. Even when I wore the treating autism t- shirt to school there were no comments. If there were new treatments out for childhood cancer I bet parents would ask then. Peta- -- In Autism-Biomedical-Europe , " bbrowne123 " wrote: > > Oh, you really hit the nail on the head here. eg: my dog only has 3 > legs and no tail but i love him anyway, as opposed to " i love my > dog " . > > I really REALLY think there is an element of guilt or maybe regret > coming from parents out there who have not pursued biomedical or > other " approaches " to autism. > > I am really trying to be non judgemental here, but its hard. I know > parents, mums who are home all day, who come 8.30am send their child > with autism on the bus and have at least 5 hours " peace " at home > without junior. There are no books in the house about autism, the > computer remains off, i mean what is with that? As soon as i leave > my boy to school, i am back on this blasted computer looking for > what I might have missed overnight! > > My house is coming down with papers i print off the computer and > books that I still must read. I curse the clock because there is > never enough time. Some of these mums i know (hope they aren't > reading this) arrive on my door step the odd time and can't believe > the level of disarray we currently live in and one said to me last > week, " are you sure you are doing the right thing?..when do you ever > get time for you? I just said, i gave up " me " time when my boy was > diagnosed with ASD. I chose to do it, i dont miss coffee mornings or > shopping. Every day my boy gets better and I learn more. > > " oh " she said. This is the same mum who has a boy the same age as my > own son. She has commented repeatedly on how my boy has come on, but > has NEVER mentioned anything about what we do via biomed. Never > asked a question. > > It's just too " out there " for her I think. She has the time, she has > the money and she is bright and could do it no problem. What is with > that? > > I have recently made a video of all our son's old video clips from > babe to 4 and i just cannot believe the difference. There is no way > in heck that he just " matured " . I cried my eyes out when i saw the > difference. We have come so far. The fear in those early days was > palpable and i cannot imagine for a second, not having the knowledge > i have now. > > How do you impress upon parents the enormity of all of this? > > sometimes i just wanna shake em! > > > > > > > > > > > > I actually think anyone who gets involved with the NAS from > the > > > > start will > > > > > come to view autism in this way. > > > > > Probably moreso since the days when my boys first had a dx. > > > > They seem to > > > > > push the acceptance line more than anything else, viewing > > > parents > > > > who want > > > > > their kids cured as somehow not loving their child. > > > > > I just see autism as a disability, which is what it is, I > > > would > > > > be no > > > > > different if my kids were NT but blind, I would want them to > > > have > > > > sight. > > > > > Does this happen with other disabilities I wonder? Are there > > > > groups of > > > > > parents out there who see their kids physical disabilities > as > > > part > > > > of who they > > > > > are? > > > > > It seems very odd that in certain circles parents who want a > > > cure > > > > are > > > > > somehow less loving than those who don't I would argue the > > > > opposite to be true. > > > > > Vicky > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 " If there were new treatments out for childhood cancer I bet parents > would ask then. " not if they were being hammered from all sides and constantly told by 'professionals' that childhood cancers are genetic and untreatable! I guess these are the types of people who will readily trust what they are told by authorities over what they can see happening in front of their eyes... it is just so much easier to live your life relying on 'professionals' and taking for granted what they tell you is the truth than to have to do the thinking/deciding / doing bit yourself. natasa > > > > > > > > > > > > I actually think anyone who gets involved with the NAS from > > the > > > > > start will > > > > > > come to view autism in this way. > > > > > > Probably moreso since the days when my boys first had a dx. > > > > > They seem to > > > > > > push the acceptance line more than anything else, viewing > > > > parents > > > > > who want > > > > > > their kids cured as somehow not loving their child. > > > > > > I just see autism as a disability, which is what it is, I > > > > would > > > > > be no > > > > > > different if my kids were NT but blind, I would want them > to > > > > have > > > > > sight. > > > > > > Does this happen with other disabilities I wonder? Are > there > > > > > groups of > > > > > > parents out there who see their kids physical disabilities > > as > > > > part > > > > > of who they > > > > > > are? > > > > > > It seems very odd that in certain circles parents who want > a > > > > cure > > > > > are > > > > > > somehow less loving than those who don't I would argue the > > > > > opposite to be true. > > > > > > Vicky > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 I think you have to respect your child to help them and what comes over is her respect for her son. There is a difference between wanting to help your child be the best he can be and needing him not to be autistic for some personal reason. I also read a lot about her fighting for one to one help with his education so I don't think she's been sat on her shapely arse these three years. It does sound very like Tom's story in many ways - ahead of the game and then crash. It's worth maybe TA sending a supportive letter because it IS important that children with autism are respected and loved - but also helped. She may not think he has biomedical issues, and three years ago, when Tom was six, we were the same. I'd be happy to drop her a line, as I'm sure would many parents. Steph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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