OL lifting and football?

[Guest guest]

I coach football at the high school level. We have

had great success incorporating the OL movements and

hybrids in our program. We use the following basic

structure in the off season and summer for football:

Monday: Back Squat (3-5 sets of 3-6 reps@70-90%), Full

Clean (sometimes we incorporate a jerk w/ the

clean)--(4-6 sets of 1-3 reps@50-70%), Overhead Squat

3x5 for shoulder stability and flexability, Glut Ham

4x4, Reverse Hypers 3x8-10, we also bench and close

grip incline along with agilities, mats, Heavy Ab

work, and Ladder drills.

Tuesday: All movements drills----agilities, sled,

minimal track work, Ab work, reaction drills, mats,

odd object lifting, Hurdle mobility, 4 point, 3 point

and 2 point drills.

Wednesday: Back Squat (Dynamic fashion 6x3@50-60%), 1

Arm DB Snatches (3x4-8), Bench (Dynamic fashion), Drop

Snatch Squat 3x5 for flexability along with agilities,

mats, Heavy Ab work, and Ladder drills.

Thursday: same as Tuesday

Friday: Back Squat (same as Monday), Power Clean (5-6

sets of 1-3 reps@70-90%), Overhead Squat 3x5 for

shoulder stability and flexability, Glut Ham 4x4,

Reverse Hypers 3x8-10, we also bench and close grip

incline along with agilities, mats, Heavy Ab work, and

Ladder drills.

Sorry for the long post, however, my question is:

Are we spinning our wheels by using the OL hybrids in our

training? The Westside community seems to condemn its

use for football purposes and have heard them say that

Dr. Siff does not deem them necessary (Cleans from the

floor for back and wrist reasons).

[i have never stated that, nor does Westside militate against

" OL Hybrids " - I have stated that execution of the full squat

style Olympic lifts may be inadvisable or redundant for some

athletes. There is a major difference training with derivatives

of the OL lifts and the full Olympic lifts. Read my Supertraining

textbook, especially Ch 7, to see which exercises I may use for

training athletes. All exercise prescription depends on the

individual, the sport and the training phase. One cannot make

long-term blanket rules for or against any exercise approach.

Mel Siff]

Our kids love/believe in them (OL) and their value for football

purposes. We get our butts kicked at every PL meet,

however, we beat the hell out of the same schools in

football. Are we wrong for doing them? Obviously we

don't care much about PL unless it allows us to reach

our full potential as a football player! Thank You

for any comments or suggestions,

Alford

Garland, Texas