Re: Indian Perfume Oils/Copal is a native Mexican/Axtec incense

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> Actually Copal is the name of a natural substance used by Mexican AZTEC DANCE

> troups during their ceremony

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Hi!

I always thought copal was a synonym for amber...they are basically both fossil

tree resins. Copal has been used in the art world for a very long time as a

varnish.

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> > Actually Copal is the name of a natural substance used by Mexican AZTEC

DANCE

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> Hi!

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> I always thought copal was a synonym for amber...they are basically both

fossil tree resins. Copal has been used in the art world for a very long time

as a varnish.

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In this case, Copal is the name of the perfume line. Now that you mention it

though, they both do smell like they have an amber base. Very deep, dark and

warm.

I smelled most of the line when purchasing the two I have and they all seem to

share that ambery base.

I would definitely like to try making something similar. Tiny bottles, with rich

pure oils and no carrier.

Do you think this would be OK seeing as you only use a drop?

I'm sure I read in one of Lawless's books that she blends pure oils and

uses them as perfume without a carrier.

She says that because the perfume is only used in a small concentrated area that

it should be fine.

I'm not sure if it would be safe to market these to the public but for personal

use? Will look into it more I think.

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> > Actually Copal is the name of a natural substance used by Mexican AZTEC

DANCE

> > troups during their ceremony

> > Bb

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> Hi!

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> I always thought copal was a synonym for amber...they are basically both

fossil tree resins. Copal has been used in the art world for a very long time as

a varnish.

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Hi All,

I'm very familiar with Copal as a resin, I use it as incense and I know that

mexicans use it as such too, it is a sacred substance - it is used to purify and

as an fire offering, and I believe curanderas use it for cleansing, like you'd

use sage.

I'm totally a lurker on this forum, as I'm a soapmaker and haven't yet got to

making perfumes, but I've seen people talking about tincturing things here -

could you tincture this resin? It is a beautiful sweet and rich scent, t'would

be well worth it if it was possible...come to think of it, it would be amazing

in soap but it would have to be got out of its resin form, even then i wonder if

it would hold in the soap anyway, food for thought! I better look and see how to

do tincturing now, it would be my first one that's not a medicinal herb!

xxx

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.... I better look and see how to do tincturing now, it would be my first one

that's not a medicinal herb!

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I'm very familiar with Copal as a resin, I use it as incense and I

know that mexicans use it as such too, it is a sacred substance...

I'm totally a lurker on this forum, as I'm a soapmaker and haven't yet

got to making perfumes, but I've seen people talking about tincturing

things here - could you tincture this resin? It is a beautiful sweet

and rich scent, t'would be well worth it if it was possible...

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Hi and all

I have some Mexican Copal Negro resin which I have tinctured - and it

is absolutely gorgeous. Such a rich, complex smelling tincture.

I have no idea whatsoever what to blend it with, but it smells amazing

on its own. (Guess I will start experimenting sometime soon ...)

Best wishes

Johanna

Wellington, New Zealand

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> Actually, I don't believe copal will tincture very well; that is one of the

> reasons it is rarely used in perfumery I think. I don't think it will imbue

> the same way that Benzoin or incense will in alcohol. To use it as a

> varnish on painted canvas, it must be heated in order to make it viscous

> enough to brush on. Possibly if you melted it prior to blending with other

> resins or EO's it could be used, but I haven't tried it in my perfumery, so

> I don't know what kind of results it would bring. Copal is a very hard

> resin.

I placed copal negro in alcohol and it almost completely dissolved,

and smells amazing. My understanding is that there are a number of

different copals. Perhaps it depends what exactly you get?

I am happy to send fuller details on what I used, and possibly send

photos, if anyone's interested, but I am away from home right now, and

would need to do it in a few days' time