Guest guest Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 How do we promote the general Welfare? > > > > Natalia, while you're busy punishing success, should they pay more taxes > and the same rate, or a higher rate? Who decides how high the punishment > rate should be? I'm sure you realize that a flat rate would still yield more > taxes paid by the " rich " ? The only think I'm aware of with " rich people " is > that they gave me jobs. You want everyone equally equal? > > > > BTW, no one owes you anything. You are not entitled to what I have earned. > > > > > Val > > > > From: hyperaldosteronism > <mailto:hyperaldosteronism%40yahoogroups.com> > [mailto:hyperaldosteronism > <mailto:hyperaldosteronism%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Natalia Kamneva > > > > It's funny how fast from our hyperaldosteronism discussion one can figure > out who is democrat and who is republican. As we have completely different > point of view on almost everything. > > > > I agree, as always, with Dr. Grim. Rich should pay more taxes than those > who are less fortunate. Thought that they work millions times harder to get > their money is ridiculous. They, for example, make fortune from producing > expansive drugs, and you should decide between food and drug. > > > > They robe you and they owe all of us money at least in the form of taxes, > welfare for those who cannot work anymore and health insurance for everybody > who is sick and hungry. > > > > I am pretty fortunate now, but I was once in these shoes and I never > forget this humiliation. Don " t be ashamed to get any assistance that can > help you to survive and live normal productive life. I don't believe in God, > but I am absolutely sure that's what Jesus Christ wanted for all of us - > normal productive life. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 An example of the way courts utilize the Preamble is Ellis v. City of Grand Rapids.[18] Substantively, the case was about eminent domain. The City of Grand Rapids wanted to use eminent domain to force landowners to sell property in the city identified as " blighted " , and convey the property to owners that would develop it in ostensibly beneficial ways: in this case, to St. 's Hospital, a Catholic organization. This area of substantive constitutional law is governed by the Fifth Amendment, which is understood to require that property acquired via eminent domain must be put to a " public use " . In interpreting whether the proposed project constituted a " public use " , the court pointed to the Preamble's reference to " promot[ing] the general Welfare " as evidence that " [t]he health of the people was in the minds of our forefathers " .[19] " [T]he concerted effort for renewal and expansion of hospital and medical care centers, as a part of our nation's system of hospitals, is as a public service and use within the highest meaning of such terms. Surely this is in accord with an objective of the United States Constitution: '* * * promote the general Welfare.' " [20] > > > > Francis, the question is what I OWE anyone; it is not a question of what > > society CHOOSES to do for people. I have no problem with state and local > > social programs for the truly needy, although some would argue that should > > be a private function. I have a huge problem with the federal government > > continually overstepping its Constitutional limits. Too often, people > > confuse private charity, state or local programs, and federal programs. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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