Guest guest Posted April 22, 2011 Report Share Posted April 22, 2011 I am a newbie! Sounds like I have training wheels on my bike, and in many ways i do. I have collected about 12 essential oils, 3 carrier oils but...nothing exciting is happening. I would love some guidance, I'm sure you more seasoned pro's have read this before, but for me its the first time, I really want to make this work...thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2011 Report Share Posted April 22, 2011 > > I am a newbie! Sounds like I have training wheels on my bike, and in many ways i do. I have collected about 12 essential oils, 3 carrier oils but...nothing exciting is happening. I would love some guidance, I'm sure you more seasoned pro's have read this before, but for me its the first time, I really want to make this work...thank you! > Hi Isis, Which oils have you collected? Do you have a favorite? What are the carriers? Have you read any books about perfumery? You may find Mandy Aftel's books helpful they are: Scents & Sensibilities or Essense & Alchemy. You may be able to get them from the library to decide if you want to purchase them. Also I think you can preview part of the Alchemy book at Amazon.com or Google Books. Google Books has some free pdf perfumery books from the 1800's. The Art of Perfumery by Piesse, there are others by Deite, Cristiani and others. The formulas in the books are mostly floral accords and Eau de Colognes. But there is also other interesting information about the oils, tincturing, etc. Also Archtander's book Perfume and Flavor Materials of Natural Origin (which is about $300+ if you try to buy it online)can be read online at http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015000804453 (Here is a note from the mod: at the end of the link, there was a . which helped the link to work, so I put it away, it is a very interesting way to read this fundamental, and not costless book) I wish I would have known about this book before I starting buying oils. It has been really helpful (I have about 20 pages of typed notes from the monographs!) :-) I hope you find this information helpful. Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 Hi Jane! Thank you sooo much for taking the time to answer, was very kind of you! So far I've collected Eucalyptus Glob, Lavender 40/42, Lemongrass, Vetiver, Patchouli, Basil, a tiny vial of Jasmine, Oakmoss, Sandalwood cut with Jojoba, Sweet Orange, Lemon, Bergamot, Peppermint, Ylang-Ylang, Rose Geranium, Texas Cedarwood, Tea Tree Oil. I think my favorite so far is Lavender because the scent is so calming and soothing. I have Jojoba oil, Grape seed Extract Oil, Sweet almond Oil, Oilive Oil, and Rosemary Oil. I have the Aromatherapy book by Jeanne Rose and several recipe books, one by the Schiller's,Creams & Lotions by Donna , Spa Recipes by Bardey. I've also watched a few video how to's on e-How and read articles from Snowdrift Farms, Save-on-Scents and others. This is definitely like trying to write your own course work, study and graduate from your own school! A lot of information out there, but screening through it to get to valuable information is exhausting. I just keep plodding through though, and hope I can create something beautiful. I live in Miami, where are you? Thanks again for your help, I'll look for those books. Isis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 ________________________________ Isis, I live in California. It looks like you prefer to blend with oils. In the beginning I bought some oils too but the jojoba had an odor to me, so I prefer fractionated coconut oil. Then I switched to alcohol. Don't get discouraged if you can't make something you really like in the beginning....it is much more difficult than it appears. :-) If you like the Oriental style perfumes, you have the ingredients to start there. Top note accord: Bergamot, Orange, Lemon Heart accord: Rose, Jasmin, Ylang Base: Sandalwood, Vetiver, Patchouli I dilute my oils @ 20% some prefer 10% and some dilute based on the strength of material. That way when you are playing around you don't use as much material. There is a method to determine the balance in your accord but it takes LOTS of bottles or those small sample vials.  Starting with the base notes; in one vial put 9 drops Vetiver and 1 drop Patchouli. In the next vial put 8 drops Vet & 2 drops Patch. Keep going until you get to 1 drop Vetiver 9 drops Patchouli. Smell them and decide which you like best. Then let them sit for a week and smell them again. It is really funny how one material may seem very strong at first but after a few days they mellow out in the blend. After you decide on one blend you can add Sandalwood one drop at a time until you get it where you want it. Then do the same thing with the middle notes, then the top notes. When you are satisfied with your accords, start blending them together. One method is 25% top notes, 20% heart notes and 55% base notes. Another method is 15-25% top notes, heart notes 30-40%, base notes 45-55%. Actually you can do anything you want but if you use all top notes they will only last a few minutes...then you have to reapply. These percentages are for alcohol based perfume and may not apply to oil based. Watch out for the oakmoss....it loves to take over and push everyone else out of the way! :-D Which gets me thinking.....since you like lavender you may be able to do something with the oakmoss, patchouli, vetiver, sandalwood, Rose and/or geranium, maybe a touch of jasmine, lavender and bergamot. Lavender is not one of my favorites but I do like it with rose.  Hope this is helpful. Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2011 Report Share Posted April 24, 2011 > Isis, > I live in California. It looks like you prefer to blend with oils. In the > beginning I bought some oils too but the jojoba had an odor to me, so I prefer > fractionated coconut oil. Then I switched to alcohol. Don't get discouraged if > you can't make something you really like in the beginning....it is much more > difficult than it appears. :-) If you like the Oriental style perfumes, you > have the ingredients to start there. > Hi Isis... One thing folks notice, when they start making Natural Perfume, is that the perfume is not long lasting... You might have noticed Jane kinda weighted the base note heavily, in the percentages...Base notes are the longest lasting...And while one gets the impression they are " deep " ones, and they often are, but that is not necessarily true... A lavender concrete is a base, by the fact that it is long lasting, but doesn't seem deep, at least to me... The thing to remember, is that NP is a different thing than Unnatural Perfumery....like the mainstream stuff...The essences produced for synthetic perfumery are man made very pure and concentrated, as they come out of the lab...They are the results of chemical manipulation from very strange source materials, for essences... And generally speaking very long lasting...In a lot of cases, the cheaper in price, the better, for the mass market... When venturing into NP, you use essences from Nature, Ma Gaia's laboratory, if you would...These are complex entities, with hundreds, maybe thousands of components...(the exception being isolates)... So that's why the emphasis on the base and bottom notes... When the blend gets together well enough to 'marry' these help each other out in terms on longevity of the scent... Hope that is of help... -- W. Bourbonais L'Hermite Aromatique A.J.P. (GIA) PS. If you haven't got it already, Mandy Aftel's 'Essence and Alchemy' is a great book to give you a start...Last time I looked...under $20 on Amazon...Be the best $20 you could spend, when starting NP, IMO... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2011 Report Share Posted April 24, 2011 I would also maybe suggest, that before you go searching any further or buy any other ingredients, you take the time to get to know the ones you have.... I would suggest you start a notebook and write down what you experience...start of with an entry for each oil you have, look up their properties in aromatherapy and herb books, and write down your own descriptions of the oils scent..how does it make you feel? do you lie it? dislike it? Then I'd start blending them with each other one by one and make notes on how they affect each others scent. This may seem like a much slower way to start, but it will teach you MUCH more than rushing in and combining things willy nilly according to recipes from somewhere else. When you feel familiar with all of the oils you have, then you can approach more complicated blends. And you will find they will make more sense to you as you will understand the individual ingredients. I have been making perfume for 20 years, and this is how I approach each new ingredient I discover. Ambrosia http://www.perfumebynature.com.au http://perfumebynature.blogspot.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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