Re:interesting thing on results, my food

[Guest guest]

> interesting thing on results

Posted by: " teresa " Fri Jul 2, 2010 Hi Etana,

>Thanks for the update. Congratulations on holding the 31 pound loss.

You've worked on it faithfully.

>I'm wondering if you want to post a few days of your meals to get

some feedback from group members.

>Though time consuming, sometimes that's helpful.

For what purpose? To help me speed up my results? Nah... I've been

through everything: 6 meals/day, 1200 cal and 6 workouts.

Then only walking and carb cycling:

Weekdays 900 cal low carb, healthy protein and fat

Weekends 2000 cal, low fat, high carb

This gave results for a while...

Now I'm reading Naturally Thin by Bethenny el and I love her

rule: " treating my week's food as a checkbook. " I've been doing that

for a year, no guilt, I just make up today for any high calorie I did

yesterday... I've been pretty anal. I left this Body For Life Forum

when people told me I wasn't getting results because I wasn't eating

enough, so please do NOT tell me to eat MORE.

It's the deficit. That's what counts.

Now I've just added 4 days TRX to my 2 days Zumba and 1-2 days

Jazzercise, plus walking and housework and NEAT, though Leigh

suggested on my low calories I don't do stressful exercise like this,

but I am for right now, I'll see how it goes.

***** I am not sleeping enough: 3-5 hours per night: this is where I

have to adjust/improve...

FOOD:

Let me know what about my food you want to know and why?

I'm eating Leigh's recommendation of mostly 1-ingredient foods. Things

I can name, then mix together.

I seem to be eating a bit high on the fats lately, but these are

avocado, fresh grated coconut, tahini, almonds, all in measured

careful amounts like 35-50 gm avocado, 1/4 oz nuts. I bought a whole

coconut, smashed it and froze half in small chunks, half I grated,

and I've been adding it to my

Greek yogurt, peach, blueberries, 1/4 oz chopped almonds, dash of

vanilla splenda liquid, + 15 gm shredded coconut mmm...

TODAY:

SNACK:

Homemade baba ganoush: (1/3 of the recipe): 1/3 eggplant, 19 gm

tahini, lemon juice, garlic, cumin

155 gm raw green pepper

LUNCH:

1 serving Trader Joe's Madras Lentil, with 4 oz chicken breast cut

into it

15 cherries

1 Hershey's miniature

DINNER:

89 gm carrots, 62 gm celery, 50 gm hummus, 64 gm avocado

65 gm blueberries

1 peanut m & m

2 potato chips

And was a little guilty that there was not much protein on my plate.

fitday.com:

937 calories; 51% fat, 32% carb, 18% protein

Yesterday I was really hungry and ate 1526 cal, and I wanted to keep

my calories down today.

The past month I've been low on protein, but when I'm hungry I make

sure I get my protein

>How's your sister?

My sister is great; she's busy programming an entrepreneurial venture.

thanks for your question... I cannot really think of any way to speed

up my results.

But instead of worrying, I'm accepting it, and trying this or that for

a while ....

Etana

[Guest guest]

Hi Etana,

We go way back to

2006...http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/bodyforlifewomensclub2/msearch?query\

=etana+AND+teresa & pos=30 & cnt=10

Since my mastectomies in 2007, I am even more about eating for wellness. If I

had my BFL years 2000-2007 to do over again, I would focus a lot more on the

real foods and not lean so heavily on the bars and powders. These days, I post

mostly on an 'Eat to Live' Yahoo group, but many of the skills I learned through

BFL have served me well recovering fully from the cancer/surgery/chemo.

Page 83 from BFL is still a big helper for me, though I have tweaked it to

include 2 veggie portions at each meal.

I do love the nutrients that are in all those dark leafy greens whether they are

cooked or raw :-)When I include them regularly, my craving/binging feeling calm

WAY down. Over the years, I also found I was gluten sensitive, so that helps me

understand a lot of my past issues.

I agree with you, it's really about wellness, being active, feeling balanced. I

am glad you have found the path that works for you. It is an interesting

personal journey for each of us.

Hugs of support always,

M.

>

> > interesting thing on results

> Posted by: " teresa " Fri Jul 2, 2010 Hi Etana,

> >Thanks for the update. Congratulations on holding the 31 pound loss.

> You've worked on it faithfully.

> >I'm wondering if you want to post a few days of your meals to get

> some feedback from group members.

> >Though time consuming, sometimes that's helpful.

>

> For what purpose? To help me speed up my results? Nah... I've been

> through everything: 6 meals/day, 1200 cal and 6 workouts.

> Then only walking and carb cycling:

> Weekdays 900 cal low carb, healthy protein and fat

> Weekends 2000 cal, low fat, high carb

> This gave results for a while...

>

> Now I'm reading Naturally Thin by Bethenny el and I love her

> rule: " treating my week's food as a checkbook. " I've been doing that

> for a year, no guilt, I just make up today for any high calorie I did

> yesterday... I've been pretty anal. I left this Body For Life Forum

> when people told me I wasn't getting results because I wasn't eating

> enough, so please do NOT tell me to eat MORE.

>

> It's the deficit. That's what counts.

>

> Now I've just added 4 days TRX to my 2 days Zumba and 1-2 days

> Jazzercise, plus walking and housework and NEAT, though Leigh

> suggested on my low calories I don't do stressful exercise like this,

> but I am for right now, I'll see how it goes.

>

> ***** I am not sleeping enough: 3-5 hours per night: this is where I

> have to adjust/improve...

>

> FOOD:

> Let me know what about my food you want to know and why?

> I'm eating Leigh's recommendation of mostly 1-ingredient foods. Things

> I can name, then mix together.

>

> I seem to be eating a bit high on the fats lately, but these are

> avocado, fresh grated coconut, tahini, almonds, all in measured

> careful amounts like 35-50 gm avocado, 1/4 oz nuts. I bought a whole

> coconut, smashed it and froze half in small chunks, half I grated,

> and I've been adding it to my

> Greek yogurt, peach, blueberries, 1/4 oz chopped almonds, dash of

> vanilla splenda liquid, + 15 gm shredded coconut mmm...

>

> TODAY:

> SNACK:

> Homemade baba ganoush: (1/3 of the recipe): 1/3 eggplant, 19 gm

> tahini, lemon juice, garlic, cumin

> 155 gm raw green pepper

>

> LUNCH:

> 1 serving Trader Joe's Madras Lentil, with 4 oz chicken breast cut

> into it

> 15 cherries

> 1 Hershey's miniature

>

> DINNER:

> 89 gm carrots, 62 gm celery, 50 gm hummus, 64 gm avocado

> 65 gm blueberries

> 1 peanut m & m

> 2 potato chips

> And was a little guilty that there was not much protein on my plate.

> fitday.com:

> 937 calories; 51% fat, 32% carb, 18% protein

>

> Yesterday I was really hungry and ate 1526 cal, and I wanted to keep

> my calories down today.

>

> The past month I've been low on protein, but when I'm hungry I make

> sure I get my protein

>

> >How's your sister?

> My sister is great; she's busy programming an entrepreneurial venture.

>

> thanks for your question... I cannot really think of any way to speed

> up my results.

> But instead of worrying, I'm accepting it, and trying this or that for

> a while ....

>

> Etana

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

Very interesting, to go back and read the history of our communication here from

2006 to now.

Wow you are 140 lbs that is so terrific!! And healthy! I dont' have time to

write much now, since I spent a few unexpected hours reading your messages and

following the links to Bill transformation videos and then the

BodyChangers site.

I'm not really interested in vegan at this time, I really like my chicken, fish,

and meat, in small portions...

I am a big vegie lover, and in the summer FRUIT!

So did you want to see my food because I am still losing so slowly, or what?

You know I never know whether to eat more or less, exercise more or cut it all

out and only walk.. But I know I need more sleep, and I'm gonna be in bed in 15

minutes!

thanks for searching for those past posts, and it's good to hear how healthy you

are feeling!

Etana

>

> Hi Etana,

> We go way back to

2006...http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/bodyforlifewomensclub2/msearch?query\

=etana+AND+teresa & pos=30 & cnt=10

>

> Since my mastectomies in 2007, I am even more about eating for wellness. If I

had my BFL years 2000-2007 to do over again, I would focus a lot more on the

real foods and not lean so heavily on the bars and powders. These days, I post

mostly on an 'Eat to Live' Yahoo group, but many of the skills I learned through

BFL have served me well recovering fully from the cancer/surgery/chemo.

> Page 83 from BFL is still a big helper for me, though I have tweaked it to

include 2 veggie portions at each meal.

>

> I do love the nutrients that are in all those dark leafy greens whether they

are cooked or raw :-)When I include them regularly, my craving/binging feeling

calm WAY down. Over the years, I also found I was gluten sensitive, so that

helps me understand a lot of my past issues.

>

> I agree with you, it's really about wellness, being active, feeling balanced.

I am glad you have found the path that works for you. It is an interesting

personal journey for each of us.

>

> Hugs of support always,

> M.

[Guest guest]

Hi Etana,

Yes, I when I read the part of your other post,

" Talking about slow results...

....Slow results are still results!!!

My results are so so so slow... BUT... I now am having slow results at

154 pound - when I began Body for Life about 4-5 years ago at about

185 pounds. Just thinking that; just writing that, is SO encouraging!

I want to lose 1.5 lbs/week. "

It got me wondering what your daily/weekly meals were like.

You know, some BFL folks are doing protein shakes for 3 of six meals with

cottage cheese and fruit for the other 3...some are doing 6 small 'real' food

meals...others are doing their meals in a vegetarian BFL style...Really there's

such a variety of women who post to BFLWC2 that I do get curious.

I now interpret Bill's comment on Vegetables on page 89 to mean that it was OK

to add a veggie serving to each of the 6 meals;

" ...which should be included with at least two of your daily meals include:

spinach, broccoli, tomatoes, carrots, lettuce, cauliflower, celery, cucumbers,

green beans, squash, asparagus, cabbage, and mushrooms. " (I would add, not just

spinach, but all the leafy greens.)

The veggies add bulk/fiber to keep the gut moving (that in itself burns

calories. They also add important, necessary, and vital phytonutrients/

phytochemicals that are abundantly found in the plants.

My thought is that you might find it an interesting experiment to add in lots of

veggie portions over the next 2 weeks and see if that keeps your weight loss

going at the rate that you prefer. That one to two pound per week sounds like a

good healthy goal for your age.

Maybe Skwigg will chime in here.

Do what feels right for you.

Hugs of support,

M.

> I am a big vegie lover, and in the summer FRUIT!

>

> So did you want to see my food because I am still losing so slowly, or what?

>

> You know I never know whether to eat more or less, exercise more or cut it all

out and only walk.. But I know I need more sleep, and I'm gonna be in bed in 15

minutes!

>

> thanks for searching for those past posts, and it's good to hear how healthy

you are feeling!

[Guest guest]

and all,

> My thought is that you might find it an interesting experiment to add in lots

of veggie portions over the next 2 weeks and see if that keeps your weight loss

going at the rate that you prefer. That one to two pound per week sounds like a

good healthy goal for your age.

If only!!!

> I am a big vegie lover, and in the summer FRUIT!

> I want to lose 1.5 lbs/week. "

My daily/weekly meals:

1. I haven't had protein shakes ever since I heard that they digest faster than

foods. Since I'm eating low calories, I'd rather they digest slowly. So I eat

real food, and only eat 1/2 or 1 Builders protein bar if I really want a candy

bar; so it is an occasional treat meal

2. I've been skipping breakfasts. For some successful months I was:

Mon-Fri 900 cal: protein and fat, like

LUNCH:

a. 2 cup romaine, 35 gm avocado, 50gm green pepper, 100gm cucumber, 50gm frozen

peas, 4-5 oz chicken breast or salmon or tuna steak or 3oz steak, or

b. same protein & avocado with 1C steamed frozen veggie mix or asparagus, or

brocolli or cabbage,

DINNER: very similar to lunch: cooked vegies or salad, protein, or cottage

cheese and veggies and olive bruschetta, or cottage cheese and fresh fruit

WEEKENDS were 1800-2000 cal:

I kept a ratio

Target:

45g fat, 235g carb, 104g protein, medium range= 1760 kcal

45g fat, 282g carb, 104g protein, high cal range= 1947 kcal

And ate high carbs, low fat

But I missed fruit, and it was really hard to keep the carbs so low on the

weekdays. I like an ear of corn in the summer! I love summer fruit.

For a while I tried eating the carb during a 5 hour window, that lasted 2 weeks.

<G> Sometimes I'd go to a restaurant on the weekend day, or a party, and it was

fun to have more calories. But then the weight results slowed down. NOTE: during

these carb-cycling weeks, if the weekends are high calorie carb, expect to see a

higher scale weight for Mon-Wed, and then the scale starts to go down, and

lowest weight would be Sat or Sun morning...

So lately, I'm still trying to keep that low calorie and high calorie days, and

my meals aren't that different, but I'm eating summer fruits and corn. I've been

enjoying 60gm hummus and 2 carrots for dinner, making baba ganoush with tahini,

bought a whole coconut and grated it and froze it and I add 15 gm to my cc or

Greek Yogurt + fruit + vanilla da Vinci syrup and I love that. I eat 1/2 C ice

cream sometimes. I eat 2 hersheys kisses, or 1 Hersheys miniature, or 2 potato

chips occasionally. It is all written and logged and counted towards my weekly

calorie average goal of 1100-1150 cal/ week, and deficit average of >800

cal/day. That should give 1.5 lbs per week.

However, it seems to give me .5 to .75 cal loss per week, over a month.

I don't know why.

I was really searching and trying this and that for my slow

digestion/constipation, etc., but lately I've just relaxed about it (not to say

I wouldn't still like a 1.5 # weight loss if someone had a new key to the

mystery for me)... But I am eating the healthiest I've ever eaten. Portion sizes

have become intuitive. I know what a good meal looks like. If I am not hungry, I

can have hummus and carrots for dinner, but if I am hungry, I need my protein.

When I go to a restaurant or party I am amazed at the size of the meals.

I went to my nephew's wedding in May and it was oers'doerves meats and dessert

petit fours, hummus and pita then the ceremony, and then a full meal and

dessert. I could not believe it. That was 4 days worth of food, and we had

already had breakfast in a restaurant!! UGH! (I did like the idea of the

desserts being served first!)

Oh, exercise. I'm trying to have activity fun in my life. Shopping in the mall

burns a lot of calories. Now that I've had my foot surgery for my arch 2 years

ago, I feel 10 years younger than my young 64, and am high energy even with

these low calories.

I've written some of this in recent posts, sorry, for repeating myself.

I take my measurements every other week. This has been a life saver for the

weeks I don't lose on the scale. I have lost about 35 " , 7 in my hips and about 5

in my ribcage. All the while my pants weren't getting looser, my stomach and

hips were getting smaller, but I didn't notice from the evil scale.

I hope some of this stream of consciousness helps some others of you who

struggle with the perfectionism of BFL " eating clean. " Just keep going and

falter and keep going and fall and keep going and you'll find that all your

small clothing fits!

Anyway, and and all, so tell me how to lose 1.5 lbs per week. (My

thyroid is fine). Shouldn't it be " the deficit, stupid? "

I'd love, again, to hear stories of some of you who are compliant but lose

really slowly. I just don't get it.

Etana

206 - 185 - 154 today

goal 140 + water gain = 145-150 maintenance range goal.

> Hi Etana,

> Yes, I when I read the part of your other post,

> " Talking about slow results...

> ...Slow results are still results!!!

[Guest guest]

Etana:

You have made amazing progress! You are an inspiration to me. I'm 45, lose

weight that slow, and I want to be as healthy as you when I'm 64 (and still

feel 30).

I'm curious: what is your body fat? and how tall are you?

This is a good online indicator (probably not 100 percent) of body fat

http://www.healthstatus.com/calculate/bfb

Have an awesome day!

Sheila

>

>

> and all,

>

> > My thought is that you might find it an interesting experiment to add in

> lots of veggie portions over the next 2 weeks and see if that keeps your

> weight loss going at the rate that you prefer. That one to two pound per

> week sounds like a good healthy goal for your age.

>

> If only!!!

>

> > I am a big vegie lover, and in the summer FRUIT!

> > I want to lose 1.5 lbs/week. "

>

> My daily/weekly meals:

> 1. I haven't had protein shakes ever since I heard that they digest faster

> than foods. Since I'm eating low calories, I'd rather they digest slowly. So

> I eat real food, and only eat 1/2 or 1 Builders protein bar if I really want

> a candy bar; so it is an occasional treat meal

>

> 2. I've been skipping breakfasts. For some successful months I was:

>

> Mon-Fri 900 cal: protein and fat, like

> LUNCH:

> a. 2 cup romaine, 35 gm avocado, 50gm green pepper, 100gm cucumber, 50gm

> frozen peas, 4-5 oz chicken breast or salmon or tuna steak or 3oz steak, or

> b. same protein & avocado with 1C steamed frozen veggie mix or asparagus,

> or brocolli or cabbage,

>

> DINNER: very similar to lunch: cooked vegies or salad, protein, or cottage

> cheese and veggies and olive bruschetta, or cottage cheese and fresh fruit

>

> WEEKENDS were 1800-2000 cal:

> I kept a ratio

> Target:

> 45g fat, 235g carb, 104g protein, medium range= 1760 kcal

> 45g fat, 282g carb, 104g protein, high cal range= 1947 kcal

> And ate high carbs, low fat

>

> But I missed fruit, and it was really hard to keep the carbs so low on the

> weekdays. I like an ear of corn in the summer! I love summer fruit.

>

> For a while I tried eating the carb during a 5 hour window, that lasted 2

> weeks. <G> Sometimes I'd go to a restaurant on the weekend day, or a party,

> and it was fun to have more calories. But then the weight results slowed

> down. NOTE: during these carb-cycling weeks, if the weekends are high

> calorie carb, expect to see a higher scale weight for Mon-Wed, and then the

> scale starts to go down, and lowest weight would be Sat or Sun morning...

>

> So lately, I'm still trying to keep that low calorie and high calorie days,

> and my meals aren't that different, but I'm eating summer fruits and corn.

> I've been enjoying 60gm hummus and 2 carrots for dinner, making baba ganoush

> with tahini, bought a whole coconut and grated it and froze it and I add 15

> gm to my cc or Greek Yogurt + fruit + vanilla da Vinci syrup and I love

> that. I eat 1/2 C ice cream sometimes. I eat 2 hersheys kisses, or 1

> Hersheys miniature, or 2 potato chips occasionally. It is all written and

> logged and counted towards my weekly calorie average goal of 1100-1150 cal/

> week, and deficit average of >800 cal/day. That should give 1.5 lbs per

> week.

>

> However, it seems to give me .5 to .75 cal loss per week, over a month.

>

> I don't know why.

> I was really searching and trying this and that for my slow

> digestion/constipation, etc., but lately I've just relaxed about it (not to

> say I wouldn't still like a 1.5 # weight loss if someone had a new key to

> the mystery for me)... But I am eating the healthiest I've ever eaten.

> Portion sizes have become intuitive. I know what a good meal looks like. If

> I am not hungry, I can have hummus and carrots for dinner, but if I am

> hungry, I need my protein. When I go to a restaurant or party I am amazed at

> the size of the meals.

>

> I went to my nephew's wedding in May and it was oers'doerves meats and

> dessert petit fours, hummus and pita then the ceremony, and then a full meal

> and dessert. I could not believe it. That was 4 days worth of food, and we

> had already had breakfast in a restaurant!! UGH! (I did like the idea of the

> desserts being served first!)

>

> Oh, exercise. I'm trying to have activity fun in my life. Shopping in the

> mall burns a lot of calories. Now that I've had my foot surgery for my arch

> 2 years ago, I feel 10 years younger than my young 64, and am high energy

> even with these low calories.

>

> I've written some of this in recent posts, sorry, for repeating myself.

>

> I take my measurements every other week. This has been a life saver for the

> weeks I don't lose on the scale. I have lost about 35 " , 7 in my hips and

> about 5 in my ribcage. All the while my pants weren't getting looser, my

> stomach and hips were getting smaller, but I didn't notice from the evil

> scale.

>

> I hope some of this stream of consciousness helps some others of you who

> struggle with the perfectionism of BFL " eating clean. " Just keep going and

> falter and keep going and fall and keep going and you'll find that all your

> small clothing fits!

>

> Anyway, and and all, so tell me how to lose 1.5 lbs per week.

> (My thyroid is fine). Shouldn't it be " the deficit, stupid? "

>

> I'd love, again, to hear stories of some of you who are compliant but lose

> really slowly. I just don't get it.

>

> Etana

> 206 - 185 - 154 today

> goal 140 + water gain = 145-150 maintenance range goal.

>

>

>

> > Hi Etana,

> > Yes, I when I read the part of your other post,

> > " Talking about slow results...

> > ...Slow results are still results!!!

>

>

>

--

Sheila

Everybody needs beauty as well as bread, places to play in and pray in,

where nature may heal and give strength to body and soul. ~ Muir

[Guest guest]

I don't really have anything to add except, congratulations! And also, if

something is working don't mess with it. :-) You're consistently losing now.

You understand how and why and what it takes every day. Of course, everybody

would like to lose faster, but the fact that you're down so many pounds and

still losing is a HUGE accomplishment for as long as you were totally

stalled.

I realize now that it's better to lose half a pound a week with something

you can keep doing forever rather than to go totally radical, drop three

pounds per week, but gain it back just as quickly when you can't handle the

suffering anymore. The fastest weight loss isn't usually the best.

[Guest guest]

Using your measurements of a 33.5 inches waist and weight of 152 pounds your

body fat percentage is estimated to be 36.83 % using the U.S. Navy body fat

formula, or 40.95 % using the formula developed by the YMCA.

36.83% ... That's disgusting. Still????

________________________________________

Thank you, !! I'll always appreciate all I've learned from you: I love my

small plates. I always check in to your blog to see what's up.... (what the heck

were those wierd gnomes at the base of the trees some years back?). When Leigh

suggested we use TRX suspension trainers, I went to re-read what you had

written. So mucho gracias!

Ha! well 900 cal/day x 5, 1150 cal average per week is kind of radical, but I

eat a lot of vegies to fill up... and darn it I am just tired of living chubby.

Enough already! I want to be proud of myself when I look in the mirror, when I

try on clothes, when I socialize! I think that's what's driving me and my drive

is a good fire! And I know enough about

1. yo yo dieting, and

2. " this is gonna be my last diet " and then how fragile that is, and how crazily

hard it is to lose 10-15 lbs AGAIN...

I am so thankful for the habits i am developing, for the knowledge that I CAN

gain 11 lbs in 2 weeks, but that's water weight, but that I CAN gain 11 lbs of

FAT in 2 weeks, because I can easily eat 6000 calories a day!!! But just because

I can, ha ha ha... I have to know myself...

About knowing what works.

151.6 today!!! I can SEE 149 hovering close <G>

I know that I have to have low calories. 1200 cal/day will just not work for me.

Maybe because I don't walk 5-10 miles a day, I'm not on my feet all day,

whatever... I have to have a good big deficit to lose. I was very very diligent

last 2 weeks, and I have results to show for it.

>when you can't handle the suffering anymore

Planned diet breaks! Planning.

Etana

> congratulations!

> You're consistently losing now.

> You understand how and why and what it takes every day.

> the fact that you're down so many pounds and still losing is a HUGE

accomplishment for as long as you were totally stalled.

[Guest guest]

I sent you the crappy one, try this one.

> Etana:

>

> You have made amazing progress! You are an inspiration to me. I'm 45, lose

> weight that slow, and I want to be as healthy as you when I'm 64 (and still

> feel 30).

>

> I'm curious: what is your body fat? and how tall are you?

>

> This is a good online indicator (probably not 100 percent) of body fat

> http://www.healthstatus.com/calculate/bfb

>

> Have an awesome day!

>

> Sheila

>

>

>

>

>>

>>

>> and all,

>>

>> > My thought is that you might find it an interesting experiment to add in

>> lots of veggie portions over the next 2 weeks and see if that keeps your

>> weight loss going at the rate that you prefer. That one to two pound per

>> week sounds like a good healthy goal for your age.

>>

>> If only!!!

>>

>> > I am a big vegie lover, and in the summer FRUIT!

>> > I want to lose 1.5 lbs/week. "

>>

>> My daily/weekly meals:

>> 1. I haven't had protein shakes ever since I heard that they digest faster

>> than foods. Since I'm eating low calories, I'd rather they digest slowly. So

>> I eat real food, and only eat 1/2 or 1 Builders protein bar if I really want

>> a candy bar; so it is an occasional treat meal

>>

>> 2. I've been skipping breakfasts. For some successful months I was:

>>

>> Mon-Fri 900 cal: protein and fat, like

>> LUNCH:

>> a. 2 cup romaine, 35 gm avocado, 50gm green pepper, 100gm cucumber, 50gm

>> frozen peas, 4-5 oz chicken breast or salmon or tuna steak or 3oz steak, or

>> b. same protein & avocado with 1C steamed frozen veggie mix or asparagus,

>> or brocolli or cabbage,

>>

>> DINNER: very similar to lunch: cooked vegies or salad, protein, or cottage

>> cheese and veggies and olive bruschetta, or cottage cheese and fresh fruit

>>

>> WEEKENDS were 1800-2000 cal:

>> I kept a ratio

>> Target:

>> 45g fat, 235g carb, 104g protein, medium range= 1760 kcal

>> 45g fat, 282g carb, 104g protein, high cal range= 1947 kcal

>> And ate high carbs, low fat

>>

>> But I missed fruit, and it was really hard to keep the carbs so low on the

>> weekdays. I like an ear of corn in the summer! I love summer fruit.

>>

>> For a while I tried eating the carb during a 5 hour window, that lasted 2

>> weeks. <G> Sometimes I'd go to a restaurant on the weekend day, or a party,

>> and it was fun to have more calories. But then the weight results slowed

>> down. NOTE: during these carb-cycling weeks, if the weekends are high

>> calorie carb, expect to see a higher scale weight for Mon-Wed, and then the

>> scale starts to go down, and lowest weight would be Sat or Sun morning...

>>

>> So lately, I'm still trying to keep that low calorie and high calorie

>> days, and my meals aren't that different, but I'm eating summer fruits and

>> corn. I've been enjoying 60gm hummus and 2 carrots for dinner, making baba

>> ganoush with tahini, bought a whole coconut and grated it and froze it and I

>> add 15 gm to my cc or Greek Yogurt + fruit + vanilla da Vinci syrup and I

>> love that. I eat 1/2 C ice cream sometimes. I eat 2 hersheys kisses, or 1

>> Hersheys miniature, or 2 potato chips occasionally. It is all written and

>> logged and counted towards my weekly calorie average goal of 1100-1150 cal/

>> week, and deficit average of >800 cal/day. That should give 1.5 lbs per

>> week.

>>

>> However, it seems to give me .5 to .75 cal loss per week, over a month.

>>

>> I don't know why.

>> I was really searching and trying this and that for my slow

>> digestion/constipation, etc., but lately I've just relaxed about it (not to

>> say I wouldn't still like a 1.5 # weight loss if someone had a new key to

>> the mystery for me)... But I am eating the healthiest I've ever eaten.

>> Portion sizes have become intuitive. I know what a good meal looks like. If

>> I am not hungry, I can have hummus and carrots for dinner, but if I am

>> hungry, I need my protein. When I go to a restaurant or party I am amazed at

>> the size of the meals.

>>

>> I went to my nephew's wedding in May and it was oers'doerves meats and

>> dessert petit fours, hummus and pita then the ceremony, and then a full meal

>> and dessert. I could not believe it. That was 4 days worth of food, and we

>> had already had breakfast in a restaurant!! UGH! (I did like the idea of the

>> desserts being served first!)

>>

>> Oh, exercise. I'm trying to have activity fun in my life. Shopping in the

>> mall burns a lot of calories. Now that I've had my foot surgery for my arch

>> 2 years ago, I feel 10 years younger than my young 64, and am high energy

>> even with these low calories.

>>

>> I've written some of this in recent posts, sorry, for repeating myself.

>>

>> I take my measurements every other week. This has been a life saver for

>> the weeks I don't lose on the scale. I have lost about 35 " , 7 in my hips and

>> about 5 in my ribcage. All the while my pants weren't getting looser, my

>> stomach and hips were getting smaller, but I didn't notice from the evil

>> scale.

>>

>> I hope some of this stream of consciousness helps some others of you who

>> struggle with the perfectionism of BFL " eating clean. " Just keep going and

>> falter and keep going and fall and keep going and you'll find that all your

>> small clothing fits!

>>

>> Anyway, and and all, so tell me how to lose 1.5 lbs per week.

>> (My thyroid is fine). Shouldn't it be " the deficit, stupid? "

>>

>> I'd love, again, to hear stories of some of you who are compliant but lose

>> really slowly. I just don't get it.

>>

>> Etana

>> 206 - 185 - 154 today

>> goal 140 + water gain = 145-150 maintenance range goal.

>>

>>

>>

>> > Hi Etana,

>> > Yes, I when I read the part of your other post,

>> > " Talking about slow results...

>> > ...Slow results are still results!!!

>>

>>

>>

>

>

>

> --

> Sheila

>

> Everybody needs beauty as well as bread, places to play in and pray in,

> where nature may heal and give strength to body and soul. ~ Muir

>

--

Sheila

Everybody needs beauty as well as bread, places to play in and pray in,

where nature may heal and give strength to body and soul. ~ Muir

[Guest guest]

Congratulations, Etana, on your great and continued progress toward your fitness

goals. You are the expert on you :-)

I can only share what has been effective for me over the past couple of years

following the breast cancer, chemo, ovaries removed, etc.

I was successful with the weight loss using information from

Dr. Fuhrman's book and website, Eat to Live.

I was doing the vegan option about 80% as described in his 6 week program.

http://fatfreevegan.com/blog/2010/01/01/eat-to-live-6-week-plan/

One tablespoon of freshly ground flax seed was my daily fat source.

Anyone that wanted to see for themselves could try it for a couple weeks.

For various reasons, there are plenty of BFL vegetarians and vegans.

The Yahoo Group, BodyforLifevegetarian2, has been rolling since June 2000.

Their database and links are helpful.

Cheeke from VeganBodyBuilders.com was a BFL champion in 2000.

Scroll down to see the female photos at 's website;

http://www.veganbodybuilding.com/

Click on the name to view progress photos

http://www.veganbodybuilding.com/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=48

Carl is a wonderful example of a healthy, strong vegetarian;

http://www.earthsave.org/lifestyle/carllewis.htm

interview;

Rip Esselstyn, professional tri-athlete and fireman.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpL3N8oGMLs & feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZhReouWekQ & feature=related

more assorted...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edHxMqFsLDA & feature=related

Put more and more raw and steamed veggies, fruits, and sprouted beans/legumes

into the week;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk4sw_rYucg & feature=related

Great info page on adding more raw veggies/fruits to the week;

http://www.raw-food-diet-inspiration.com/startingarawfooddiet.html

Shifting a " meat and potatoes " guy to a plant-powered way of LIFE;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKYPSPUQvr4 & feature=channel

Hugs of support to all,

M.

[Guest guest]

Might help if I included it

http://www.linear-software.com/online.html

> I sent you the crappy one, try this one.

>

>

>

>> Etana:

>>

>> You have made amazing progress! You are an inspiration to me. I'm 45, lose

>> weight that slow, and I want to be as healthy as you when I'm 64 (and still

>> feel 30).

>>

>> I'm curious: what is your body fat? and how tall are you?

>>

>> This is a good online indicator (probably not 100 percent) of body fat

>> http://www.healthstatus.com/calculate/bfb

>>

>> Have an awesome day!

>>

>> Sheila

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>>

>>>

>>> and all,

>>>

>>> > My thought is that you might find it an interesting experiment to add

>>> in lots of veggie portions over the next 2 weeks and see if that keeps your

>>> weight loss going at the rate that you prefer. That one to two pound per

>>> week sounds like a good healthy goal for your age.

>>>

>>> If only!!!

>>>

>>> > I am a big vegie lover, and in the summer FRUIT!

>>> > I want to lose 1.5 lbs/week. "

>>>

>>> My daily/weekly meals:

>>> 1. I haven't had protein shakes ever since I heard that they digest

>>> faster than foods. Since I'm eating low calories, I'd rather they digest

>>> slowly. So I eat real food, and only eat 1/2 or 1 Builders protein bar if I

>>> really want a candy bar; so it is an occasional treat meal

>>>

>>> 2. I've been skipping breakfasts. For some successful months I was:

>>>

>>> Mon-Fri 900 cal: protein and fat, like

>>> LUNCH:

>>> a. 2 cup romaine, 35 gm avocado, 50gm green pepper, 100gm cucumber, 50gm

>>> frozen peas, 4-5 oz chicken breast or salmon or tuna steak or 3oz steak, or

>>> b. same protein & avocado with 1C steamed frozen veggie mix or asparagus,

>>> or brocolli or cabbage,

>>>

>>> DINNER: very similar to lunch: cooked vegies or salad, protein, or

>>> cottage cheese and veggies and olive bruschetta, or cottage cheese and fresh

>>> fruit

>>>

>>> WEEKENDS were 1800-2000 cal:

>>> I kept a ratio

>>> Target:

>>> 45g fat, 235g carb, 104g protein, medium range= 1760 kcal

>>> 45g fat, 282g carb, 104g protein, high cal range= 1947 kcal

>>> And ate high carbs, low fat

>>>

>>> But I missed fruit, and it was really hard to keep the carbs so low on

>>> the weekdays. I like an ear of corn in the summer! I love summer fruit.

>>>

>>> For a while I tried eating the carb during a 5 hour window, that lasted 2

>>> weeks. <G> Sometimes I'd go to a restaurant on the weekend day, or a party,

>>> and it was fun to have more calories. But then the weight results slowed

>>> down. NOTE: during these carb-cycling weeks, if the weekends are high

>>> calorie carb, expect to see a higher scale weight for Mon-Wed, and then the

>>> scale starts to go down, and lowest weight would be Sat or Sun morning...

>>>

>>> So lately, I'm still trying to keep that low calorie and high calorie

>>> days, and my meals aren't that different, but I'm eating summer fruits and

>>> corn. I've been enjoying 60gm hummus and 2 carrots for dinner, making baba

>>> ganoush with tahini, bought a whole coconut and grated it and froze it and I

>>> add 15 gm to my cc or Greek Yogurt + fruit + vanilla da Vinci syrup and I

>>> love that. I eat 1/2 C ice cream sometimes. I eat 2 hersheys kisses, or 1

>>> Hersheys miniature, or 2 potato chips occasionally. It is all written and

>>> logged and counted towards my weekly calorie average goal of 1100-1150 cal/

>>> week, and deficit average of >800 cal/day. That should give 1.5 lbs per

>>> week.

>>>

>>> However, it seems to give me .5 to .75 cal loss per week, over a month.

>>>

>>> I don't know why.

>>> I was really searching and trying this and that for my slow

>>> digestion/constipation, etc., but lately I've just relaxed about it (not to

>>> say I wouldn't still like a 1.5 # weight loss if someone had a new key to

>>> the mystery for me)... But I am eating the healthiest I've ever eaten.

>>> Portion sizes have become intuitive. I know what a good meal looks like. If

>>> I am not hungry, I can have hummus and carrots for dinner, but if I am

>>> hungry, I need my protein. When I go to a restaurant or party I am amazed at

>>> the size of the meals.

>>>

>>> I went to my nephew's wedding in May and it was oers'doerves meats and

>>> dessert petit fours, hummus and pita then the ceremony, and then a full meal

>>> and dessert. I could not believe it. That was 4 days worth of food, and we

>>> had already had breakfast in a restaurant!! UGH! (I did like the idea of the

>>> desserts being served first!)

>>>

>>> Oh, exercise. I'm trying to have activity fun in my life. Shopping in the

>>> mall burns a lot of calories. Now that I've had my foot surgery for my arch

>>> 2 years ago, I feel 10 years younger than my young 64, and am high energy

>>> even with these low calories.

>>>

>>> I've written some of this in recent posts, sorry, for repeating myself.

>>>

>>> I take my measurements every other week. This has been a life saver for

>>> the weeks I don't lose on the scale. I have lost about 35 " , 7 in my hips and

>>> about 5 in my ribcage. All the while my pants weren't getting looser, my

>>> stomach and hips were getting smaller, but I didn't notice from the evil

>>> scale.

>>>

>>> I hope some of this stream of consciousness helps some others of you who

>>> struggle with the perfectionism of BFL " eating clean. " Just keep going and

>>> falter and keep going and fall and keep going and you'll find that all your

>>> small clothing fits!

>>>

>>> Anyway, and and all, so tell me how to lose 1.5 lbs per

>>> week. (My thyroid is fine). Shouldn't it be " the deficit, stupid? "

>>>

>>> I'd love, again, to hear stories of some of you who are compliant but

>>> lose really slowly. I just don't get it.

>>>

>>> Etana

>>> 206 - 185 - 154 today

>>> goal 140 + water gain = 145-150 maintenance range goal.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> > Hi Etana,

>>> > Yes, I when I read the part of your other post,

>>> > " Talking about slow results...

>>> > ...Slow results are still results!!!

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>

>>

>>

>> --

>> Sheila

>>

>> Everybody needs beauty as well as bread, places to play in and pray in,

>> where nature may heal and give strength to body and soul. ~ Muir

>>

>

>

>

> --

> Sheila

>

> Everybody needs beauty as well as bread, places to play in and pray in,

> where nature may heal and give strength to body and soul. ~ Muir

>

--

Sheila

Everybody needs beauty as well as bread, places to play in and pray in,

where nature may heal and give strength to body and soul. ~ Muir

[Guest guest]

That one seems pretty close. The tape measure one had me at 19.1% and I'm

18.1% on the 3 site caliper reading.

Still, everybody remember that they're estimates based on " average " test

subjects. So, the closer you are to average height/weight/age the more

accurate they are. If you're tall or short, or you're muscular, or you're

older or younger, they can give you a seriously wonky reading. Every year I

age my body fat goes up, whether I'm in better shape or not. The calculators

just assume that the older you are, the more body fat you carry. They don't

necessarily consider whether you're an athlete or a couch potato. The tape

measure circumference calculators especially can't tell if you're wrapping

the tape around legs like steel bands or if you're soft and squishy. They

just average the circumference based on your height and age.

Thanks for the link. Definitely bookmarking that one!

http://www.linear-software.com/online.html

> Might help if I included it

> http://www.linear-software.com/online.html

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

It gave me 28.5%, and my Tanita scale in the evening says 27-28%. I don't

have calipers. It also said my lean body weight is 101 lbs., which is what

I've calculated before. Nice website!

>

>

> That one seems pretty close. The tape measure one had me at 19.1% and I'm

> 18.1% on the 3 site caliper reading.

>

> Still, everybody remember that they're estimates based on " average " test

> subjects. So, the closer you are to average height/weight/age the more

> accurate they are. If you're tall or short, or you're muscular, or you're

> older or younger, they can give you a seriously wonky reading. Every year I

> age my body fat goes up, whether I'm in better shape or not. The

> calculators

> just assume that the older you are, the more body fat you carry. They don't

> necessarily consider whether you're an athlete or a couch potato. The tape

> measure circumference calculators especially can't tell if you're wrapping

> the tape around legs like steel bands or if you're soft and squishy. They

> just average the circumference based on your height and age.

>

> Thanks for the link. Definitely bookmarking that one!

>

> http://www.linear-software.com/online.html

>

>

>

>

> On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 5:16 AM, Sheila

<sheila.doughty@...<sheila.doughty%40gmail.com>>

> wrote:

>

> > Might help if I included it

> > http://www.linear-software.com/online.html

> >

> >

> >

>

>