Guest guest Posted January 22, 2003 Report Share Posted January 22, 2003 Dear Mel - Thank you for hosting your site and thank you for introducing me to Biomch-l list. On Spinalfitness.com we now show for supertraining functional indentification of lever systems and our example of why current structural identificatiion of lever systems falls apart when functionally evaluated I like it when I can understadn and apply technology to better my life and others that i ahve responsiblity for. I like to have something well validated before implementation. I kow that humans adapt an S-shape neutral spine posture. I did not know howt this mechanically gave humans unique physical abilities that quadrupeds do not possess. I know that humans exist in a gravitational environment. I did not know was there a relativity between the force of graivty and humans adapting this S-shape. [??? MCS] I did not have a rational why with aging humans adapt out of the S- shape into the characteristic C-shape and with this change why locomotion and strenght of the humans declines [?? MCS}. From theoretical physics I knew that a model must contain the 4th dimension which was the relativity between effect and cause of a time spatial relationship that could be identified that was basis of the formation of the original model. [Four dimensional universes are only one of several possible models of the universe - some models have as many as 11 dimensions. Mel Siff] If gravity was the effect and the body the cause of the adaptation of the S-shape posture in time with need what was the relativity between the two. What was being gained. (another type example melanin production to darken skin) If gravity wa a reistance force and muscles produce force of effort that moves body mass against gravity by fixed levers (bones) at fulcrums (joints) to me it was evident that I was dealing with a lever system. As I workded with lever systems I found many erroneus teaching present such as the 3 structural classes, The forearm flexing on the upper arm kinesiology stated was example of 3rd class lever because of classic FER, a wheel and axel is a first class system only, but the biggest problem I encountered there existed no unifying funcitional definition of a lever system. I then sought to about to make lever systems workable and uderstandable or communicable so everyone can begin to understand their true nature. I would teach lever systems beginning with children that they are a study in mutually dependent forces tha must be followed to the end. For instance the Classic " give me a lever and I will move the world " I would change to give me a fulcrum with a true effort arm that can stabilize the resultant force created by the force of the world and the force of my fixed lever and I will move the world. As I examined Biomech-l site, I see that others existed like me. AS on PT comments " I have enjoyed the debate on the ICR issue. But I must admit I have been confused and lost much of the time. I would appreciate brief overview and basic (if possible) position stance from each debator. I take advice in how to apply technology. " Like this fellow I felt the same way It is for him and me and strenght coaches,trainers that I have tried to develop force analysis technology that is usable. I want to see in a given exercise where all the forces are going and what is handling them. I also see you are have felt the subjective rather then the objective weight of lever system being used to dismiss your ideas that weight lifting with the trunk in a bent over " flexed " position is not recommended if you want to prevent injury to spine. I agree with you on this but the reply by Pinder (biomech-l) on the Flat Back Paradox I find very lacking in his evoking the name of lever system to refute you. [i would like to comment and assist you in understanding the relevant biomechanics, but you will need to reword this letter much more clearly so that I can understand what you are saying and what you would like to know/ Mel Siff] Scherger Ridgefield WA * Please sign all letters with genuine full name and city if you wish them to be published Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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