Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 As a beginner, the main thing is to lay that foundation of eating right with consistant exercise. Dont think about adding in any form of supplementation until you think you have nailed that down. Supplements are in their own defintion 'in addition to' and so they are to add something you may be missing, but like how do you know until you actually get the nutrition part underway? That said, as a basic that EVERYONE should be taking (new or not) is a complete multi-vitamin complex that contains all your b-vitamins,c, and minerals. Many available, compare ingredients. After you think you have the basic BFL portions and nutrition down (usually a few weeks into it) another first basic to consider adding is a dietary oil - EFA's or essential fatty acids. Many take just a flaxseed oil supplement(like Barleans) but many like a combo blend called UDO's Blended Oils. When you are trying to lose bodyfat and lowering your calories, you limit the bad fats, but your body needs 'good' fats for energy that they can readily use - thereby helping to release the stored bodyfat when it doesnt think you are setting it up for the next perceived famine. By now maybe a few weeks have gone by, you are getting tired of tuna, chicken or eggs and dammit you need CONVENIENCE plus a change of pace. This is where the addition of an MRP or protein powder comes in handy as an extra way to up your daily protein comsumption. Get this, they are usually not neccessary, but hey convenience rules! :-) Beyond these three basics (vitamins/EFA's/protein powders)there isnt much more. Some people like creatine or glutamine(or a blend like EAS's BetaGen) for muscle soreness, but again NOT a necessity - more like individual choice. Do some reading up or 'homework' as I call it before you ever buy anything, not just on someones overzealous recommndation. And what about socalled 'fatburners'? Honestly have a cup of coffee, a RedBull, green tea, or even a sugarfree Mtn Dew and thats about all the caffeine 'boost' most people ever need. Way cheaper on the pocketbook. Keep it simple - the fat comes off with dedication, perseverance, consistancy and most importantly *time*. :-) joni ------------------------------------------ *Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long* > I'm wondering what (if any) supplements some of you may take. I > haven't looked into taking any as of yet. I do use protein powder, > but I'm not sure if that's considered a " supplement " ! Are there other > things I could be adding? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Thanks Joni! I appreciate the advice! You are right -- I definitly need to get the nutrition down first. I've done very well this week, but man, am I SICK of eggs! I detest egg whites by themselves, so I have to throw that yolk in! I'm going to buy some turkey sausage this week to add another choice. I drink protein shakes also, but I'm beginning to think I may be drinking too many - sometimes two a day. I'm thinking I need to stick with the " basics " . To: bodyforlifewomensclub2@...: no_reply@...: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 16:46:07 +0000Subject: Re: Supplements As a beginner, the main thing is to lay that foundation of eating right with consistant exercise. Dont think about adding in any form of supplementation until you think you have nailed that down. Supplements are in their own defintion 'in addition to' and so they are to add something you may be missing, but like how do you know until you actually get the nutrition part underway?That said, as a basic that EVERYONE should be taking (new or not) is a complete multi-vitamin complex that contains all your b-vitamins,c, and minerals. Many available, compare ingredients. After you think you have the basic BFL portions and nutrition down (usually a few weeks into it) another first basic to consider adding is a dietary oil - EFA's or essential fatty acids. Many take just a flaxseed oil supplement(like Barleans) but many like a combo blend called UDO's Blended Oils. When you are trying to lose bodyfat and lowering your calories, you limit the bad fats, but your body needs 'good' fats for energy that they can readily use - thereby helping to release the stored bodyfat when it doesnt think you are setting it up for the next perceived famine.By now maybe a few weeks have gone by, you are getting tired of tuna, chicken or eggs and dammit you need CONVENIENCE plus a change of pace. This is where the addition of an MRP or protein powder comes in handy as an extra way to up your daily protein comsumption. Get this, they are usually not neccessary, but hey convenience rules! :-)Beyond these three basics (vitamins/EFA's/protein powders)there isnt much more. Some people like creatine or glutamine(or a blend like EAS's BetaGen) for muscle soreness, but again NOT a necessity - more like individual choice. Do some reading up or 'homework' as I call it before you ever buy anything, not just on someones overzealous recommndation. And what about socalled 'fatburners'? Honestly have a cup of coffee, a RedBull, green tea, or even a sugarfree Mtn Dew and thats about all the caffeine 'boost' most people ever need. Way cheaper on the pocketbook. Keep it simple - the fat comes off with dedication, perseverance, consistancy and most importantly *time*. :-)joni------------------------------------------*Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long*> I'm wondering what (if any) supplements some of you may take. I > haven't looked into taking any as of yet. I do use protein powder,> but I'm not sure if that's considered a " supplement " ! Are there other > things I could be adding?> _________________________________________________________________ Get the power of Windows + Web with the new Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_powerofwindows_012008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 I used to work at GNC and I sampled my way through the whole store on my employee discount. There are really very few supplements that make a substantial difference in your results. Some of my observations... Creatine - totally works to build muscle and aid recovery CLA - works great in rats, doesn't do a whole lot for humans Flax oil or ground flax seeds - reduces hunger and cravings, improves fat loss, improves heart health Fish oil - reduces hunger and cravings, improves fat loss, improves heart health Ephedra - landed me in the cardiology unit, not recommended Other, more " gentle " fat burning formulas (synephrine, yohimbe, white willow bark, etc.) - made me paranoid as hell, I was pacing around peeking out the windows, major insomnia and anxiety, didn't improve fat loss, not recommended Glutamine - aides muscle recovery, improves immune function, kinda nice post-workout Right now, all I take is a multivitamin, a calcium chew, and fish oil caps. > I'm wondering what (if any) supplements some of you may take. I > haven't looked into taking any as of yet. I do use protein powder, but > I'm not sure if that's considered a " supplement " ! Are there other > things I could be adding? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 You can take most supplements with food and/or right before bed. That way if you get a sour stomach or burp fish oil, you won't know it because you'll be asleep. > when I take supplements in the morning, i.e. flax oil, fish oil, > vitamins, selenium, etc. I get an upset stomach and gas. Is there a > better or more optimal time of day? Is there something I can take > with them to cut down this discomfort? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 If you're taking Betagen you don't need Phosphagen (and vice versa). They're both creatine supplements. I'd stick with the Betagen. Plain Phosphagen is just creatine without any added goodies. Super Duper Phosphagen, or whatever it's called now, has a lot more calories than most people need or want when trying to get lean. Betagen is probably the best choice for recovery and muscle building if you also want weight/fat loss. > I am training in the mornings and after I drink betagen and take CLA. Does > anyone take phosphagen before a workout. I was wondering if I should add it > to my plan > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 Hi, I take creatine, but only about 1/2 a teaspoon a day (IF I remember to take it on days I lift). I don't experience any side effects. THe container instructs me to take it BEFORE exercise (well sometimes I do, sometimes I forget so I take it after). Alena To: bodyforlifewomensclub2 From: chrtpa1@... Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 01:35:37 +0000 Subject: Supplements I am training in the mornings and after I drink betagen and take CLA. Does anyone take phosphagen before a workout. I was wondering if I should add it to my plan _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail® has a new way to see what's up with your friends. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/WhatsNew?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_W\ hatsNew1_052009 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2009 Report Share Posted November 21, 2009 I was taking the GNC Women's Active vitapak. I felt like I got more energy from it. -Janine > > Can anyone suggest any supplements for energy and faster weightloss? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2009 Report Share Posted November 21, 2009 Search the old list emails for " supplement " . One thing is Flaxoil or flax seed. Sheila > > > Can anyone suggest any supplements for energy and faster weightloss? > > > -- Sheila " Don’t tell me that I won’t I will Don’t tell me how to think I feel Don’t tell me cause I know what’s real What I can do " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 Has anyone tried Alli? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 My very first BFL, I took the " fat burner " Thermo DynamX . It was a BFL thing. It made me jittery and perhaps provided a placebo effect making me " feel " like it was making things go faster, I learned from subsequent BFLs that I didn't need to take anything. It also gave me HORRIBLE heartburn/reflux, so much so that I ended up with an ulcer on my vocal cord that was taken care of surgically, which ironically, ruined that BFL challenge and stopped me at 10 weeks.  Younger years, I took Hydroxycut...also made me jittery - maybe some people would call it " energy " lol....I felt like no matter how early I stopped taking it, I was still jittery at night but still tired at the same time, only now I couldn't sleep. I also was irritable, high strung, sick to my stomach. Back in the day Marla Duncan was the magazine model pictured with all the Hydroxycut ads. I started to refer to Marla Duncan as my " assassin "  as I was convinced she was trying to kill me with those pills. I didn't lose any weight with them either.  On the other hand, I have a friend who was a diet pill popper and she seemed like she could handle them. I noticed she was shaky but she didn't seem irritable or like they bothered her if she did have any side effects. I guess it depends on the person. I'm not a fan though. )  Liza  Subject: supplements To: bodyforlifewomensclub2 Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 9:11 AM  Can anyone suggest any supplements for energy and faster weightloss? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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