Re: need some advice for a campfire woody male blend that smells medicinal

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Sent: Tue, December 28, 2010 10:40:30 AM

Subject: need some advice for a campfire woody male blend

that smells medicinal

 

hi guys, i'm making my 1st attent at a blend for a male friend for a xmas

pressie. he is suffering from depression and i thought id try and create a blend

to remind him of a happy night we spent in spring sitting round a campfire in my

garden.

the oils i used were..

tobacco abs

clary sage

guacwood

oak moss

cypress

turmeric

frankincense

mhyr

pettigrain

lavender

lem thyme

galbanum

ylang

vetiver

rosemary

basil

bay

lav abs

bergamot

i had a disaster with the white birch as i had never used it before and it

poured out of the bottle! so i abandones ship, made it again using a pippette,

but it has a really medicinal main smell to it, appart from the smoke and i

don't know where it is coming from as i only used 1 drop of myhrr and 3 white

birch and 1 lemon thyme. I don't know how to rectify it.. any ideas please! im a

total beginner but i wanted to make my friend something reminissent of happy

times with fire, wood, wet earth and forest, and he loves frankinsence so i used

a fair bit of that.

thanks, bluebell x

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Whoa there Bluebell!

You've got a lot of essences in there, especially if you're new to this. And

some of them are really heavy hitters - tobacco, oakmoss, etc - although it's

hard to say the impact on the overall blend without knowing how much you used.

Try focusing on one or two essences that you want to be the " star of the show "

and then decide which others should be the " supporting actors " . I recommend that

you might want to start with one or two notes each for the top, middle, and base

- a vertical accord. Then add a drop at a time to see the effect on the whole

thing. Maybe stick to a maximum of six notes total. Better a nice simple perfume

than a complicated mess.Be patient.

By the way, this isn't how I was trained to blend. I was taught to blend the

base first, then add the middle notes, then work on to the top, 3 notes to each

level (for alcohol base). But I've been finding that, for me, working on it in a

more round-about fashion seems to yield better results. Everyone has their own

way of blending that works best for them.

I hope this helps. That's a very nice thing you're doing for your friend!

 Patty

Ganache for Lips

http://www.ganacheforlips.com

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> Try focusing on one or two essences that you want to be the " star of

> the show "

> and then decide which others should be the " supporting actors " .

> Patty

> Ganache for Lips

> http://www.ganacheforlips.com

>

> _

I agree with Patty!

The smokiest scented oil I know is Cade! So I'd probably start there.....

Ambrosia

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>

> thanks guys for the advice:) i did train in aromatherapy and we blended top

middle and base notes so i prob should've stuck to that method insead of using

so many oils:) it does smell good but a bit too medicinal.. i shall take your

advice:) i dont have any cade so i used the white birtch and vetiver for the

smoky notes. hugs bluebell:)

>

Hey Bluebell

coming in late here

Patty and Ambrosia know their stuff; I'm adept at accidentally making stinkers,

weird things, and things my best friend is convinced smell like flyspray.

I'd suggest not wasting what you've made... try using just a couple of drops of

your original blend as a basis on which to build new creations using just a

couple of star ingredients, and a few accessory notes... you've already got

enough ingredients to be able to make several markedly different and interesting

possibilities.

This method is how I manage to sneak some of the more intense, rare, weird

mistakes or very $$$ aromatics into my experiments... and sometimes it seems, at

just the right amount.

I also feel that your original intent for making this fragrance is so generous

and heartfelt, it would be a shame to ignore the energy of your intent which is

in your original creation.

Good luck, have fun!

Warmly

Margi

http://margihealing.wordpress.com/

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Hi Margi,

Just jumping in here late too. I just wanted to say that I thought your post to

Bluebell was very nice and encouraging, especially your last line about it being

a shame to ignore the energy of the original generous and heartfelt intent.

What a great way to look at things.

xo

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awww thank you margi:)I charged up the bottle in my crystal grid too:) so be a

shame to waste all of it.. here's what I've written to him...

..Fire Spirit

A bottle of liquid Fire Spirit for Mark…

Memories of a springtime eve, old friends sitting in a circle.

Resins of incense , myrrh and pine Sprinkled into the heart of the fire.

Sweet smoke Rising up to the heavens, carrying our hopes and dreams.

Dry woods burning bright, a waft of rosemary, of fresh grass, of wet leaves and

forest floor behind us.

A night of magic, stories and laughter. Flames dance and weave, burning all our

troubles away.

You caught a fire Spirit , and that fire spirit created this scent just for you,

dear friend, to remind you of friendship and warmth , that winter will soon be

over, and that many more fireside nights will come again, to warm your heart.xx

i hope it lifts his spirits:) and i will experiment with a few blends in small

amounts instead of making a whole bottle and it not turning out how i enviseged!

hugs, bluebellx

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>

> Hi Margi,

> Just jumping in here late too. I just wanted to say that I thought your post

to

> Bluebell was very nice and encouraging, especially your last line about it

being

> a shame to ignore the energy of the original generous and heartfelt intent.

> What a great way to look at things.

> xo

>

;D

thanks

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>

> hi guys, i'm making my 1st attent at a blend for a male friend for a xmas

pressie. he is suffering from depression and i thought id try and create a blend

to remind him of a happy night we spent in spring sitting round a campfire in my

garden.

> the oils i used were..

Hi, This is Kait. I had a request to come up with a similar perfume that I now

sell up on Etsy at my Vireo Perfumes store. You may get some neat ideas from my

notes that are on it's page. The perfume is called : " Smoke Follows Beauty " .

Here is a link to the page.

http://www.etsy.com/listing/61121673/smoke-follows-beauty-smokey-sandalwood

I do not think I mention that I use orris, rose abso or cade in the bio though.

I mostly get my smokey note from some of my home mascerated Lapsang Souchong tea

oil. I also wanted the whole camping experience with smores and all with this

natural perfume. It features some cocoa absolute and an unbridaled amount of

sandalwoods and home brewed vanillas. It was quite a fun creation. I wish you

luck with your blend. I hope some of this may be helpful. If you want me to send

you a freebee sample for you and/ or your friend I would be happy to. I know

this can be such an emotional time of year for folks.

Take care, Kait

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>

> awww thank you margi:)I charged up the bottle in my crystal grid too:) so be a

shame to waste all of it.. here's what I've written to him...

> .Fire Spirit

>

> A bottle of liquid Fire Spirit for Mark�

> Memories of a springtime eve, old friends sitting in a circle.

> Resins of incense , myrrh and pine Sprinkled into the heart of the

fire.

> Sweet smoke Rising up to the heavens, carrying our hopes and dreams.

> Dry woods burning bright, a waft of rosemary, of fresh grass, of wet leaves

and forest floor behind us.

> A night of magic, stories and laughter. Flames dance and weave, burning all

our troubles away.

> You caught a fire Spirit , and that fire spirit created this scent just for

you, dear friend, to remind you of friendship and warmth , that winter will soon

be over, and that many more fireside nights will come again, to warm your

heart.xx

>

> i hope it lifts his spirits:) and i will experiment with a few blends in small

amounts instead of making a whole bottle and it not turning out how i enviseged!

>

> hugs, bluebellx

>

Ahhh... the acupuncturist in me learnt that intent is 'everything'.

If you make several different fragrances in small quantities, your dear friend

will have a selection from which to choose, depending on how he is each day,

what he's doing, his mood, preference etc... he's fortunate already!!

Warmest wishes

Margi

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I also agree that intent is everything.   If only people put that much love

and thought into everything.   Your write up made me as happy as if I received

it myself.   Thank you for sharing it.  cinloo

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Hi Bluebell,

Please forgive the pokey response...I wanted to mention that fokeinia EO could

be lovely in that blend as well.

Cheers,

Marie