Guest guest Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Breads are the killer for me....that has been the hardest strangely....and the sodium in a slice of Italian bread my gosh!>I've been laid off just about 1-1/2 years and my COBRA just ran out. I have been denied twice for private insurance. I can get some of my meds generic at Walmart, Target & /or Hyvee. I have a dr. appt coming w/blood draw but will have to cancel since I don't have the money to cover it...> Re: Insurance>>> > They are doing them at National Institutes of Health (NIH)> 9000 Rockville Pike> Bethesda, land 20892. >> Need to tell us more about how you think you have HYPERALDOSTERONISM. >> > >> > IT A NIGHTMARE TRYING TO GET INSURANCE I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO AT THIS POINT MY DIEASE IS GETTING WORSE,I TRIED CLINICAL TRIALS BUT NO ONE IS> > DOING CLINICALTRIALS ON HYPERALDOSTERONISM.UNBELIEVABLE!> >>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 And don't forget the butter Remember butter Breads are the killer for me....that has been the hardest strangely....and the sodium in a slice of Italian bread my gosh!>I've been laid off just about 1-1/2 years and my COBRA just ran out. I have been denied twice for private insurance. I can get some of my meds generic at Walmart, Target & /or Hyvee. I have a dr. appt coming w/blood draw but will have to cancel since I don't have the money to cover it...> Re: Insurance>>> > They are doing them at National Institutes of Health (NIH)> 9000 Rockville Pike> Bethesda, land 20892. >> Need to tell us more about how you think you have HYPERALDOSTERONISM. >> > >> > IT A NIGHTMARE TRYING TO GET INSURANCE I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO AT THIS POINT MY DIEASE IS GETTING WORSE,I TRIED CLINICAL TRIALS BUT NO ONE IS> > DOING CLINICALTRIALS ON HYPERALDOSTERONISM.UNBELIEVABLE!> >>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Ouch>I've been laid off just about 1-1/2 years and my COBRA just ran out. I have been denied twice for private insurance. I can get some of my meds generic at Walmart, Target & /or Hyvee. I have a dr. appt coming w/blood draw but will have to cancel since I don't have the money to cover it...> Re: Insurance>>> > They are doing them at National Institutes of Health (NIH)> 9000 Rockville Pike> Bethesda, land 20892. >> Need to tell us more about how you think you have HYPERALDOSTERONISM. >> > >> > IT A NIGHTMARE TRYING TO GET INSURANCE I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO AT THIS POINT MY DIEASE IS GETTING WORSE,I TRIED CLINICAL TRIALS BUT NO ONE IS> > DOING CLINICALTRIALS ON HYPERALDOSTERONISM.UNBELIEVABLE!> >>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 We have in Russia very good saying about it:"Rely on God but don't be a fool yourself. " To: "hyperaldosteronism " <hyperaldosteronism >Sent: Sun, February 27, 2011 4:27:29 PMSubject: Re: Re: Insurance If God is in charge why worry?Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension Trying to keep cholesterol normal my BP is always 120/70 checked on the guidelines for medicaid here in NC its 10,000 a year,if i quit work i cant hold my home or other debts,im a widow.I dont owe much ive always been good with money but a month out of work could be devastating i use to have a charity where i helped people with patient care assistance and prescription drug counseling i didnt take in much money i incurred the financial responsibility but i love people and find it so rewarding helping others in need.I know that God will take care of me even if i have to meet him a little early.I personnaly believe that the worst is yet to come i know so many people that dont have insurance,loss of jobs,divorce,illness,incarceration and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 I didn't say...The butters in the refrigerator Ouch>I've been laid off just about 1-1/2 years and my COBRA just ran out. I have been denied twice for private insurance. I can get some of my meds generic at Walmart, Target & /or Hyvee. I have a dr. appt coming w/blood draw but will have to cancel since I don't have the money to cover it...> Re: Insurance>>> > They are doing them at National Institutes of Health (NIH)> 9000 Rockville Pike> Bethesda, land 20892. >> Need to tell us more about how you think you have HYPERALDOSTERONISM. >> > >> > IT A NIGHTMARE TRYING TO GET INSURANCE I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO AT THIS POINT MY DIEASE IS GETTING WORSE,I TRIED CLINICAL TRIALS BUT NO ONE IS> > DOING CLINICALTRIALS ON HYPERALDOSTERONISM.UNBELIEVABLE!> >>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 AMEN Natalia! ;o) To: hyperaldosteronism Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 2:22:25 AMSubject: Re: Re: Insurance We have in Russia very good saying about it:"Rely on God but don't be a fool yourself. " To: "hyperaldosteronism " <hyperaldosteronism >Sent: Sun, February 27, 2011 4:27:29 PMSubject: Re: Re: Insurance If God is in charge why worry?Tiped sad Send form mi iPhone ;-) May your pressure be low! CE Grim MD Specializing in Difficult Hypertension Trying to keep cholesterol normal my BP is always 120/70 checked on the guidelines for medicaid here in NC its 10,000 a year,if i quit work i cant hold my home or other debts,im a widow.I dont owe much ive always been good with money but a month out of work could be devastating i use to have a charity where i helped people with patient care assistance and prescription drug counseling i didnt take in much money i incurred the financial responsibility but i love people and find it so rewarding helping others in need.I know that God will take care of me even if i have to meet him a little early.I personnaly believe that the worst is yet to come i know so many people that dont have insurance,loss of jobs,divorce,illness,incarceration and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 It's funny how fast from our hyperaldosteronism discussion one can figure out who is democrat and who is republican. As we have completely different point of view on almost everything. I agree, as always, with Dr. Grim. Rich should pay more taxes than those who are less fortunate. Thought that they work millions times harder to get their money is ridiculous. They, for example, make fortune from producing expansive drugs, and you should decide between food and drug.They robe you and they owe all of us money at least in the form of taxes, welfare for those who cannot work anymore and health insurance for everybody who is sick and hungry. I am pretty fortunate now, but I was once in these shoes and I never forget this humiliation. Don"t be ashamed to get any assistance that can help you to survive and live normal productive life. I don't believe in God, but I am absolutely sure that's what Jesus Christ wanted for all of us - normal productive life. Natalia Kamneva 66 Russian F with 1.5 cm adrenal adenoma, HTN and low renin , low aldosteron and high cortisol, K=3.4; diabetic. To: hyperaldosteronism Cc: Clarence Grim Sent: Mon, February 28, 2011 12:04:35 AMSubject: Re: Re: Insurance So you like it that the rich are taxed less. I don't. CE Grim MDI have no problem my tax dollars going to you as YOU are who its for. . . . . .but i am not rich and yet i do not believe those who are should pay MORE in taxes. They worked to get it and i, nor anyone else is not entitled to it. . . . .sorry a bit of politics there>I worked since I was 13. I saw work as freedom. Loved what a paycheck gave me! Then as I was living in Ireland doing volunteer work and working full time- I started getting sick. Ended up back in USA and kept trying to work. Went from event coordinator picking up 50lb boxes with ease to driver to temp worker to self taught graphic artist. The last one because I could do it on good days, from my computer. Finally I couldn't even do that. I went into the human services office( welfare) >I cried the whole time. You never think this will happen to you. The worst part of it is the prejudice of people who have never been in my situation. Half the time I buy groceries I get rude degrading coments from the check out clerk. But what are my choices? My best friends son says I should just be left to die because taxpayers shouldn't be left to take care of me. Charming fellow. I hate being on welfare but I have no choice. And I for sure am not living the high life off the govt. I have to choose between dr visits , meds , bills and food each month. I taketurns. I take half doses. But I keep on truckin as they say. Who knows maybe I'll get well. >>>>>>> YOU are the one who welfare is designed for. a hard working taxpayer who puts into, and will again., the system. it was not designed for the person having multiple kids out of wedlock who refuses to stop (octomom is a good example) or the man addicted to meth who uses it for free money>> >> >> >> >I've been laid off just about 1-1/2 years and my COBRA just ran out. I have been denied twice for private insurance. I can get some of my meds generic at Walmart, Target & /or Hyvee. I have a dr. appt coming w/blood draw but will have to cancel since I don't have the money to cover it...>> > Re: Insurance>> >>> >>> > >> > They are doing them at National Institutes of Health (NIH)>> > 9000 Rockville Pike>> > Bethesda, land 20892. >> >>> > Need to tell us more about how you think you have HYPERALDOSTERONISM. >> >>> > >> > >>> > > IT A NIGHTMARE TRYING TO GET INSURANCE I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO AT THIS POINT MY DIEASE IS GETTING WORSE,I TRIED CLINICAL TRIALS BUT NO ONE IS>> > > DOING CLINICALTRIALS ON HYPERALDOSTERONISM.UNBELIEVABLE!>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Natalia, while you're busy punishing success, should they pay more taxes and the same rate, or a higher rate? Who decides how high the punishment rate should be? I'm sure you realize that a flat rate would still yield more taxes paid by the " rich " ? The only think I'm aware of with " rich people " is that they gave me jobs. You want everyone equally equal? BTW, no one owes you anything. You are not entitled to what I have earned. Val From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Natalia Kamneva It's funny how fast from our hyperaldosteronism discussion one can figure out who is democrat and who is republican. As we have completely different point of view on almost everything. I agree, as always, with Dr. Grim. Rich should pay more taxes than those who are less fortunate. Thought that they work millions times harder to get their money is ridiculous. They, for example, make fortune from producing expansive drugs, and you should decide between food and drug. They robe you and they owe all of us money at least in the form of taxes, welfare for those who cannot work anymore and health insurance for everybody who is sick and hungry. I am pretty fortunate now, but I was once in these shoes and I never forget this humiliation. Don " t be ashamed to get any assistance that can help you to survive and live normal productive life. I don't believe in God, but I am absolutely sure that's what Jesus Christ wanted for all of us - normal productive life. Natalia Kamneva 66 Russian F with 1.5 cm adrenal adenoma, HTN and low renin , low aldosteron and high cortisol, K=3.4; diabetic. To: hyperaldosteronism Cc: Clarence Grim Sent: Mon, February 28, 2011 12:04:35 AM Subject: Re: Re: Insurance So you like it that the rich are taxed less. I don't. CE Grim MD On Feb 27, 2011, at 6:24 PM, Bingham wrote: I have no problem my tax dollars going to you as YOU are who its for. . . . . .but i am not rich and yet i do not believe those who are should pay MORE in taxes. They worked to get it and i, nor anyone else is not entitled to it. . . . .sorry a bit of politics there >I worked since I was 13. I saw work as freedom. Loved what a paycheck gave me! Then as I was living in Ireland doing volunteer work and working full time- I started getting sick. Ended up back in USA and kept trying to work. Went from event coordinator picking up 50lb boxes with ease to driver to temp worker to self taught graphic artist. The last one because I could do it on good days, from my computer. Finally I couldn't even do that. I went into the human services office( welfare) >I cried the whole time. You never think this will happen to you. The worst part of it is the prejudice of people who have never been in my situation. Half the time I buy groceries I get rude degrading coments from the check out clerk. But what are my choices? My best friends son says I should just be left to die because taxpayers shouldn't be left to take care of me. Charming fellow. I hate being on welfare but I have no choice. And I for sure am not living the high life off the govt. I have to choose between dr visits , meds , bills and food each month. I taketurns. I take half doses. But I keep on truckin as they say. Who knows maybe I'll get well. > > > > > >> YOU are the one who welfare is designed for. a hard working taxpayer who puts into, and will again., the system. it was not designed for the person having multiple kids out of wedlock who refuses to stop (octomom is a good example) or the man addicted to meth who uses it for free money >> >> >> >> >I've been laid off just about 1-1/2 years and my COBRA just ran out. I have been denied twice for private insurance. I can get some of my meds generic at Walmart, Target & /or Hyvee. I have a dr. appt coming w/blood draw but will have to cancel since I don't have the money to cover it... >> > Re: Insurance >> > >> > >> > >> > They are doing them at National Institutes of Health (NIH) >> > 9000 Rockville Pike >> > Bethesda, land 20892. >> > >> > Need to tell us more about how you think you have HYPERALDOSTERONISM. >> > >> > >> > > >> > > IT A NIGHTMARE TRYING TO GET INSURANCE I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO AT THIS POINT MY DIEASE IS GETTING WORSE,I TRIED CLINICAL TRIALS BUT NO ONE IS >> > > DOING CLINICALTRIALS ON HYPERALDOSTERONISM.UNBELIEVABLE! >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011  Amen, Val! Re: Insurance>> >>> >>> > >> > They are doing them at National Institutes of Health (NIH)>> > 9000 Rockville Pike>> > Bethesda, land 20892. >> >>> > Need to tell us more about how you think you have HYPERALDOSTERONISM. >> >>> > >> > >>> > > IT A NIGHTMARE TRYING TO GET INSURANCE I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO AT THIS POINT MY DIEASE IS GETTING WORSE,I TRIED CLINICAL TRIALS BUT NO ONE IS>> > > DOING CLINICALTRIALS ON HYPERALDOSTERONISM.UNBELIEVABLE!>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Some people are truly lazy, some want to party and take drugs, some beat their wives and have felonies, some molest children. etc, etc, etc. they lose jobs or cant get jobs because of personal decisions. the rich do not them a dime. there is a profound diffrence between unfortunate and less fortunate. do not to spend money that does not belong to you On Tue Mar 1st, 2011 3:09 PM CST Francis Bill SUSPECTED PA wrote: >What would you if this happened? > >You are driving and get distracted and go over the line and hit oncoming car driver gets killed you end up in wheelchair. Family member of driver that was killed sues for wrongful death wins case for $5,000,000. > > >> >> > > >> >> > > IT A NIGHTMARE TRYING TO GET INSURANCE I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO AT THIS POINT MY DIEASE IS GETTING WORSE,I TRIED CLINICAL TRIALS BUT NO ONE IS >> >> > > DOING CLINICALTRIALS ON HYPERALDOSTERONISM.UNBELIEVABLE! >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 I've never understood the mentality of don't tax rich people because they "might" create jobs. How about giving tax breaks to people if and when they create jobs, not just because they "might". The wealthy don't create jobs because they get tax breaks, supply and demand is what creates jobs. Warren Buffett and several other millionaires wanted the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy to be allowed to expire. As he says - “If anything, taxes for the lower and middle class and maybe even the upper middle class should even probably be cut further,†Buffett said in an interview with ABC’s “This Week With Christiane Amanpour†that is scheduled to air on Nov. 28. “But I think that people at the high end -- people like myself -- should be paying a lot more in taxes. We have it better than we’ve ever had it. The rich are always going to say that, you know, just give us more money and we’ll go out and spend more and then it will all trickle down to the rest of you,†Buffett, chief executive officer of Berkshire Hathaway Inc., said in the interview. “But that has not worked the last 10 years, and I hope the American public is catching on.†I don't think anyone thinks they are entitled to what you have earned, no more than they are entitled to what little I've earned. However most of us do believe that we deserve something from the government for all the years we've paid income tax, besides planes, missiles, bombs and wars. Entering the 21st century with health care would be a nice start. Just my opinion, a >> >> >I've been laid off just about 1-1/2 years and my COBRA just ran out. I have been denied twice for private insurance. I can get some of my meds generic at Walmart, Target & /or Hyvee. I have a dr. appt coming w/blood draw but will have to cancel since I don't have the money to cover it...>> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: Francis Bill SUSPECTED PA >> > To: hyperaldosteronism >> > Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 9:48 AM>> > Subject: Re: Insurance>> >>> >>> > >> > They are doing them at National Institutes of Health (NIH)>> > 9000 Rockville Pike>> > Bethesda, land 20892. >> >>> > Need to tell us more about how you think you have HYPERALDOSTERONISM. >> >>> > >> > >>> > > IT A NIGHTMARE TRYING TO GET INSURANCE I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO AT THIS POINT MY DIEASE IS GETTING WORSE,I TRIED CLINICAL TRIALS BUT NO ONE IS>> > > DOING CLINICALTRIALS ON HYPERALDOSTERONISM.UNBELIEVABLE!>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Francis, the question is what I OWE anyone; it is not a question of what society CHOOSES to do for people. I have no problem with state and local social programs for the truly needy, although some would argue that should be a private function. I have a huge problem with the federal government continually overstepping its Constitutional limits. Too often, people confuse private charity, state or local programs, and federal programs. Val From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Francis Bill SUSPECTED PA What would you if this happened? You are driving and get distracted and go over the line and hit oncoming car driver gets killed you end up in wheelchair. Family member of driver that was killed sues for wrongful death wins case for $5,000,000. > > Natalia, while you're busy punishing success, should they pay more taxes and the same rate, or a higher rate? Who decides how high the punishment rate should be? I'm sure you realize that a flat rate would still yield more taxes paid by the " rich " ? The only think I'm aware of with " rich people " is that they gave me jobs. You want everyone equally equal? > > BTW, no one owes you anything. You are not entitled to what I have earned. > > Val > > From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Natalia Kamneva > > It's funny how fast from our hyperaldosteronism discussion one can figure out who is democrat and who is republican. As we have completely different point of view on almost everything. > > I agree, as always, with Dr. Grim. Rich should pay more taxes than those who are less fortunate. Thought that they work millions times harder to get their money is ridiculous. They, for example, make fortune from producing expansive drugs, and you should decide between food and drug. > > They robe you and they owe all of us money at least in the form of taxes, welfare for those who cannot work anymore and health insurance for everybody who is sick and hungry. > > I am pretty fortunate now, but I was once in these shoes and I never forget this humiliation. Don " t be ashamed to get any assistance that can help you to survive and live normal productive life. I don't believe in God, but I am absolutely sure that's what Jesus Christ wanted for all of us - normal productive life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Letting the Bush tax cuts expire would have meant a 50% tax increase for the poorest. What I don't understand is the entitlement mentality. No one is entitled to what is mine, and I am not entitled to what is anyone else's. Another thing I don't understand is why people like Warren Buffett don't just pay more taxes if they think they should. From the federal government, we deserve expenditures to fulfill Constitutional mandates. One of those enumerated mandates is national defense. Val From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of a Hall Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 2:32 PM To: hyperaldosteronism Subject: RE: Re: Insurance I've never understood the mentality of don't tax rich people because they " might " create jobs. How about giving tax breaks to people if and when they create jobs, not just because they " might " . The wealthy don't create jobs because they get tax breaks, supply and demand is what creates jobs. Warren Buffett and several other millionaires wanted the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy to be allowed to expire. As he says - “If anything, taxes for the lower and middle class and maybe even the upper middle class should even probably be cut further,†Buffett said in an interview with ABC’s “This Week With Christiane Amanpour†that is scheduled to air on Nov. 28. “But I think that people at the high end -- people like myself -- should be paying a lot more in taxes. We have it better than we’ve ever had it. The rich are always going to say that, you know, just give us more money and we’ll go out and spend more and then it will all trickle down to the rest of you,†Buffett, chief executive officer of Berkshire Hathaway Inc., said in the interview. “But that has not worked the last 10 years, and I hope the American public is catching on.†I don't think anyone thinks they are entitled to what you have earned, no more than they are entitled to what little I've earned. However most of us do believe that we deserve something from the government for all the years we've paid income tax, besides planes, missiles, bombs and wars. Entering the 21st century with health care would be a nice start. Just my opinion, a --- Subject: RE: Re: Insurance To: hyperaldosteronism Date: Tuesday, March 1, 2011, 3:46 PM Natalia, while you're busy punishing success, should they pay more taxes and the same rate, or a higher rate? Who decides how high the punishment rate should be? I'm sure you realize that a flat rate would still yield more taxes paid by the " rich " ? The only think I'm aware of with " rich people " is that they gave me jobs. You want everyone equally equal? BTW, no one owes you anything. You are not entitled to what I have earned. Val From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Natalia Kamneva It's funny how fast from our hyperaldosteronism discussion one can figure out who is democrat and who is republican. As we have completely different point of view on almost everything. I agree, as always, with Dr. Grim. Rich should pay more taxes than those who are less fortunate. Thought that they work millions times harder to get their money is ridiculous. They, for example, make fortune from producing expansive drugs, and you should decide between food and drug. They robe you and they owe all of us money at least in the form of taxes, welfare for those who cannot work anymore and health insurance for everybody who is sick and hungry. I am pretty fortunate now, but I was once in these shoes and I never forget this humiliation. Don " t be ashamed to get any assistance that can help you to survive and live normal productive life. I don't believe in God, but I am absolutely sure that's what Jesus Christ wanted for all of us - normal productive life. Natalia Kamneva 66 Russian F with 1.5 cm adrenal adenoma, HTN and low renin , low aldosteron and high cortisol, K=3.4; diabetic. To: hyperaldosteronism Cc: Clarence Grim Sent: Mon, February 28, 2011 12:04:35 AM Subject: Re: Re: Insurance So you like it that the rich are taxed less. I don't. CE Grim MD On Feb 27, 2011, at 6:24 PM, Bingham wrote: I have no problem my tax dollars going to you as YOU are who its for. . . . . .but i am not rich and yet i do not believe those who are should pay MORE in taxes. They worked to get it and i, nor anyone else is not entitled to it. . . . ..sorry a bit of politics there >I worked since I was 13. I saw work as freedom. Loved what a paycheck gave me! Then as I was living in Ireland doing volunteer work and working full time- I started getting sick. Ended up back in USA and kept trying to work. Went from event coordinator picking up 50lb boxes with ease to driver to temp worker to self taught graphic artist. The last one because I could do it on good days, from my computer. Finally I couldn't even do that. I went into the human services office( welfare) >I cried the whole time. You never think this will happen to you. The worst part of it is the prejudice of people who have never been in my situation. Half the time I buy groceries I get rude degrading coments from the check out clerk. But what are my choices? My best friends son says I should just be left to die because taxpayers shouldn't be left to take care of me. Charming fellow. I hate being on welfare but I have no choice. And I for sure am not living the high life off the govt. I have to choose between dr visits , meds , bills and food each month. I taketurns. I take half doses. But I keep on truckin as they say. Who knows maybe I'll get well. > > > > > >> YOU are the one who welfare is designed for. a hard working taxpayer who puts into, and will again., the system. it was not designed for the person having multiple kids out of wedlock who refuses to stop (octomom is a good example) or the man addicted to meth who uses it for free money >> >> >> >> >I've been laid off just about 1-1/2 years and my COBRA just ran out. I have been denied twice for private insurance. I can get some of my meds generic at Walmart, Target & /or Hyvee. I have a dr. appt coming w/blood draw but will have to cancel since I don't have the money to cover it... >> > Re: Insurance >> > >> > >> > >> > They are doing them at National Institutes of Health (NIH) >> > 9000 Rockville Pike >> > Bethesda, land 20892. >> > >> > Need to tell us more about how you think you have HYPERALDOSTERONISM. >> > >> > >> > > >> > > IT A NIGHTMARE TRYING TO GET INSURANCE I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO AT THIS POINT MY DIEASE IS GETTING WORSE,I TRIED CLINICAL TRIALS BUT NO ONE IS >> > > DOING CLINICALTRIALS ON HYPERALDOSTERONISM.UNBELIEVABLE! >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 It is THEIR money, not something GIVEN to them. What part of that is hard to understand? YOU give them nothing and have no right to decide what they get or who they have to give their money too. You want more, go make it like they did, don't say they should give more because you have less. You have less for a reason and not because of the rich. That does not give you the right to take something not yours. Last I checked that was stealing. They pay more literally and are in a higher tax bracket no matter the rumors you've heard on MSNBC or on the VIEW. They can afford good tax men to find ways to get breaks then good for them. You can say there is a "yacht" break in some states, well maybe so, then again someone who sits at home, does NOTHING because they want to watch TV STILL qualifies for earned income credit if they brought in $100 that year (when they have the normal deductions). I get so irate that anyone thinks they have the right to spend someone elses hard earned money. Maybe politics is a good career since they do it every day.>> >> >I've been laid off just about 1-1/2 years and my COBRA just ran out. I have been denied twice for private insurance. I can get some of my meds generic at Walmart, Target & /or Hyvee. I have a dr. appt coming w/blood draw but will have to cancel since I don't have the money to cover it...>> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: Francis Bill SUSPECTED PA >> > To: hyperaldosteronism >> > Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 9:48 AM>> > Subject: Re: Insurance>> >>> >>> > >> > They are doing them at National Institutes of Health (NIH)>> > 9000 Rockville Pike>> > Bethesda, land 20892. >> >>> > Need to tell us more about how you think you have HYPERALDOSTERONISM. >> >>> > >> > >>> > > IT A NIGHTMARE TRYING TO GET INSURANCE I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO AT THIS POINT MY DIEASE IS GETTING WORSE,I TRIED CLINICAL TRIALS BUT NO ONE IS>> > > DOING CLINICALTRIALS ON HYPERALDOSTERONISM.UNBELIEVABLE!>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Such a great point about Buffett or Soros, or even Al Gore, who's 2009 income was reported as 200 million!!! from his investments in global warming technology, oops climate change. , who made the film railing against big business and the "rich", took his special tax break for his businesses - the exact film to be correct, he made to preach against this, the same one he even mentioned as bad, to keep more of his money. When asked why he was such a hypocrite and took the thing he said was evil, he said because he "could". Classic. Words with zero conviction are nothing. But those mentioned are exactly that. >> >> >I've been laid off just about 1-1/2 years and my COBRA just ran out. I have been denied twice for private insurance. I can get some of my meds generic at Walmart, Target & /or Hyvee. I have a dr. appt coming w/blood draw but will have to cancel since I don't have the money to cover it... >> > Re: Insurance >> > >> > >> > >> > They are doing them at National Institutes of Health (NIH) >> > 9000 Rockville Pike >> > Bethesda, land 20892. >> > >> > Need to tell us more about how you think you have HYPERALDOSTERONISM. >> > >> > >> > > >> > > IT A NIGHTMARE TRYING TO GET INSURANCE I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO AT THIS POINT MY DIEASE IS GETTING WORSE,I TRIED CLINICAL TRIALS BUT NO ONE IS >> > > DOING CLINICALTRIALS ON HYPERALDOSTERONISM.UNBELIEVABLE! >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 That is a tough question when hypocrisy is so rampant in our political system. There seems to be so much rhetoric, but these politicians are people living on tax money, driving in limo's, housing paid for, staff and servants, and they have lost all touch with us people. It seems so hard to pick out someone who can't be bought by someone for something. One way is to be honest ourselves, cheat no one, work hard I (if we can) for what we get, and praySubject: Re: InsuranceTo: hyperaldosteronism Date: Tuesday, March 1, 2011, 4:01 PM How do we promote the general Welfare? > > > > Natalia, while you're busy punishing success, should they pay more taxes > and the same rate, or a higher rate? Who decides how high the punishment > rate should be? I'm sure you realize that a flat rate would still yield more > taxes paid by the "rich"? The only think I'm aware of with "rich people" is > that they gave me jobs. You want everyone equally equal? > > > > BTW, no one owes you anything. You are not entitled to what I have earned. > > > > > Val > > > > From: hyperaldosteronism > <mailto:hyperaldosteronism%40yahoogroups.com> > [mailto:hyperaldosteronism > <mailto:hyperaldosteronism%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Natalia Kamneva > > > > It's funny how fast from our hyperaldosteronism discussion one can figure > out who is democrat and who is republican. As we have completely different > point of view on almost everything. > > > > I agree, as always, with Dr. Grim. Rich should pay more taxes than those > who are less fortunate. Thought that they work millions times harder to get > their money is ridiculous. They, for example, make fortune from producing > expansive drugs, and you should decide between food and drug. > > > > They robe you and they owe all of us money at least in the form of taxes, > welfare for those who cannot work anymore and health insurance for everybody > who is sick and hungry. > > > > I am pretty fortunate now, but I was once in these shoes and I never > forget this humiliation. Don"t be ashamed to get any assistance that can > help you to survive and live normal productive life. I don't believe in God, > but I am absolutely sure that's what Jesus Christ wanted for all of us - > normal productive life. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 I bought a bread machine and used just a touch of salt in each loaf. It tastes just fine. This is the best barbeque sauce ever (except it has high fructose corn syrup). http://healthyheartmarket.com/lumtaylorsbarbequesauce.aspx Val From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Bingham Breads are the killer for me....that has been the hardest strangely....and the sodium in a slice of Italian bread my gosh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Not to mention they have the best health plan in the world. Not all of us do. The should have the same health card benefits as the rest of us. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension That is a tough question when hypocrisy is so rampant in our political system. There seems to be so much rhetoric, but these politicians are people living on tax money, driving in limo's, housing paid for, staff and servants, and they have lost all touch with us people. It seems so hard to pick out someone who can't be bought by someone for something. One way is to be honest ourselves, cheat no one, work hard I (if we can) for what we get, and praySubject: Re: InsuranceTo: hyperaldosteronism Date: Tuesday, March 1, 2011, 4:01 PM How do we promote the general Welfare? > > > > Natalia, while you're busy punishing success, should they pay more taxes > and the same rate, or a higher rate? Who decides how high the punishment > rate should be? I'm sure you realize that a flat rate would still yield more > taxes paid by the "rich"? The only think I'm aware of with "rich people" is > that they gave me jobs. You want everyone equally equal? > > > > BTW, no one owes you anything. You are not entitled to what I have earned. > > > > > Val > > > > From: hyperaldosteronism > <mailto:hyperaldosteronism%40yahoogroups.com> > [mailto:hyperaldosteronism > <mailto:hyperaldosteronism%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Natalia Kamneva > > > > It's funny how fast from our hyperaldosteronism discussion one can figure > out who is democrat and who is republican. As we have completely different > point of view on almost everything. > > > > I agree, as always, with Dr. Grim. Rich should pay more taxes than those > who are less fortunate. Thought that they work millions times harder to get > their money is ridiculous. They, for example, make fortune from producing > expansive drugs, and you should decide between food and drug. > > > > They robe you and they owe all of us money at least in the form of taxes, > welfare for those who cannot work anymore and health insurance for everybody > who is sick and hungry. > > > > I am pretty fortunate now, but I was once in these shoes and I never > forget this humiliation. Don"t be ashamed to get any assistance that can > help you to survive and live normal productive life. I don't believe in God, > but I am absolutely sure that's what Jesus Christ wanted for all of us - > normal productive life. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 It depends on what the " general welfare " is. Is it specific expenditure for specific individuals or groups? How about expenditures for especially vocal unions and lobbyists? For every federal program that supposedly promotes the general welfare, even where there are multitudes of programs to promote the same " welfare, " there is a crew of lobbyists and others whose welfare has been considerably enhanced. Unfortunately, the whole concept of " general welfare " has been seriously bastardized. People blame the " politicians " but continue to ask for more and more. Val From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Francis Bill SUSPECTED PA How do we promote the general Welfare? > > Francis, the question is what I OWE anyone; it is not a question of what > society CHOOSES to do for people. I have no problem with state and local > social programs for the truly needy, although some would argue that should > be a private function. I have a huge problem with the federal government > continually overstepping its Constitutional limits. Too often, people > confuse private charity, state or local programs, and federal programs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Sounds like you're listing what politicians do Some people are truly lazy, some want to party and take drugs, some beat their wives and have felonies, some molest children. etc, etc, etc. they lose jobs or cant get jobs because of personal decisions. the rich do not them a dime. there is a profound diffrence between unfortunate and less fortunate. do not to spend money that does not belong to you On Tue Mar 1st, 2011 3:09 PM CST Francis Bill SUSPECTED PA wrote: >What would you if this happened? > >You are driving and get distracted and go over the line and hit oncoming car driver gets killed you end up in wheelchair. Family member of driver that was killed sues for wrongful death wins case for $5,000,000. > > >> >> > > >> >> > > IT A NIGHTMARE TRYING TO GET INSURANCE I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO AT THIS POINT MY DIEASE IS GETTING WORSE,I TRIED CLINICAL TRIALS BUT NO ONE IS >> >> > > DOING CLINICALTRIALS ON HYPERALDOSTERONISM.UNBELIEVABLE! >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 As far as I can see prayer has never helped me. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension That is a tough question when hypocrisy is so rampant in our political system. There seems to be so much rhetoric, but these politicians are people living on tax money, driving in limo's, housing paid for, staff and servants, and they have lost all touch with us people. It seems so hard to pick out someone who can't be bought by someone for something. One way is to be honest ourselves, cheat no one, work hard I (if we can) for what we get, and praySubject: Re: InsuranceTo: hyperaldosteronism Date: Tuesday, March 1, 2011, 4:01 PM How do we promote the general Welfare? > > > > Natalia, while you're busy punishing success, should they pay more taxes > and the same rate, or a higher rate? Who decides how high the punishment > rate should be? I'm sure you realize that a flat rate would still yield more > taxes paid by the "rich"? The only think I'm aware of with "rich people" is > that they gave me jobs. You want everyone equally equal? > > > > BTW, no one owes you anything. You are not entitled to what I have earned. > > > > > Val > > > > From: hyperaldosteronism > <mailto:hyperaldosteronism%40yahoogroups.com> > [mailto:hyperaldosteronism > <mailto:hyperaldosteronism%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Natalia Kamneva > > > > It's funny how fast from our hyperaldosteronism discussion one can figure > out who is democrat and who is republican. As we have completely different > point of view on almost everything. > > > > I agree, as always, with Dr. Grim. Rich should pay more taxes than those > who are less fortunate. Thought that they work millions times harder to get > their money is ridiculous. They, for example, make fortune from producing > expansive drugs, and you should decide between food and drug. > > > > They robe you and they owe all of us money at least in the form of taxes, > welfare for those who cannot work anymore and health insurance for everybody > who is sick and hungry. > > > > I am pretty fortunate now, but I was once in these shoes and I never > forget this humiliation. Don"t be ashamed to get any assistance that can > help you to survive and live normal productive life. I don't believe in God, > but I am absolutely sure that's what Jesus Christ wanted for all of us - > normal productive life. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Great point for an old guySubject: Re: InsuranceTo: hyperaldosteronism Date: Tuesday, March 1, 2011, 4:01 PM How do we promote the general Welfare? > > > > Natalia, while you're busy punishing success, should they pay more taxes > and the same rate, or a higher rate? Who decides how high the punishment > rate should be? I'm sure you realize that a flat rate would still yield more > taxes paid by the "rich"? The only think I'm aware of with "rich people" is > that they gave me jobs. You want everyone equally equal? > > > > BTW, no one owes you anything. You are not entitled to what I have earned. > > > > > Val > > > > From: hyperaldosteronism > <mailto:hyperaldosteronism%40yahoogroups.com> > [mailto:hyperaldosteronism > <mailto:hyperaldosteronism%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Natalia Kamneva > > > > It's funny how fast from our hyperaldosteronism discussion one can figure > out who is democrat and who is republican. As we have completely different > point of view on almost everything. > > > > I agree, as always, with Dr. Grim. Rich should pay more taxes than those > who are less fortunate. Thought that they work millions times harder to get > their money is ridiculous. They, for example, make fortune from producing > expansive drugs, and you should decide between food and drug. > > > > They robe you and they owe all of us money at least in the form of taxes, > welfare for those who cannot work anymore and health insurance for everybody > who is sick and hungry. > > > > I am pretty fortunate now, but I was once in these shoes and I never > forget this humiliation. Don"t be ashamed to get any assistance that can > help you to survive and live normal productive life. I don't believe in God, > but I am absolutely sure that's what Jesus Christ wanted for all of us - > normal productive life. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 I trust Warren Buffet who said that he pays taxes in percentage less than his secretary who gets $60,000 annually. It's not a flat rate. And Val, of course, I am not entitled to what you earned. But the salary of $52,000 an hour for some CEOs of health insurances is not earned, it is stollen from society. And golden parashutes are not earned. And most economists say that it's not reach people who give a job to you and me. To: hyperaldosteronism Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 3:46:40 PMSubject: RE: Re: Insurance Natalia, while you're busy punishing success, should they pay more taxes and the same rate, or a higher rate? Who decides how high the punishment rate should be? I'm sure you realize that a flat rate would still yield more taxes paid by the "rich"? The only think I'm aware of with "rich people" is that they gave me jobs. You want everyone equally equal? BTW, no one owes you anything. You are not entitled to what I have earned. Val From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Natalia Kamneva It's funny how fast from our hyperaldosteronism discussion one can figure out who is democrat and who is republican. As we have completely different point of view on almost everything. I agree, as always, with Dr. Grim. Rich should pay more taxes than those who are less fortunate. Thought that they work millions times harder to get their money is ridiculous. They, for example, make fortune from producing expansive drugs, and you should decide between food and drug.They robe you and they owe all of us money at least in the form of taxes, welfare for those who cannot work anymore and health insurance for everybody who is sick and hungry. I am pretty fortunate now, but I was once in these shoes and I never forget this humiliation. Don"t be ashamed to get any assistance that can help you to survive and live normal productive life. I don't believe in God, but I am absolutely sure that's what Jesus Christ wanted for all of us - normal productive life. Natalia Kamneva 66 Russian F with 1.5 cm adrenal adenoma, HTN and low renin , low aldosteron and high cortisol, K=3.4; diabetic. To: hyperaldosteronism Cc: Clarence Grim Sent: Mon, February 28, 2011 12:04:35 AMSubject: Re: Re: Insurance So you like it that the rich are taxed less. I don't. CE Grim MD I have no problem my tax dollars going to you as YOU are who its for. . . . . .but i am not rich and yet i do not believe those who are should pay MORE in taxes. They worked to get it and i, nor anyone else is not entitled to it. . . . .sorry a bit of politics there>I worked since I was 13. I saw work as freedom. Loved what a paycheck gave me! Then as I was living in Ireland doing volunteer work and working full time- I started getting sick. Ended up back in USA and kept trying to work. Went from event coordinator picking up 50lb boxes with ease to driver to temp worker to self taught graphic artist. The last one because I could do it on good days, from my computer. Finally I couldn't even do that. I went into the human services office( welfare) >I cried the whole time. You never think this will happen to you. The worst part of it is the prejudice of people who have never been in my situation. Half the time I buy groceries I get rude degrading coments from the check out clerk. But what are my choices? My best friends son says I should just be left to die because taxpayers shouldn't be left to take care of me. Charming fellow. I hate being on welfare but I have no choice. And I for sure am not living the high life off the govt. I have to choose between dr visits , meds , bills and food each month. I taketurns. I take half doses. But I keep on truckin as they say. Who knows maybe I'll get well. >>>>>>> YOU are the one who welfare is designed for. a hard working taxpayer who puts into, and will again., the system. it was not designed for the person having multiple kids out of wedlock who refuses to stop (octomom is a good example) or the man addicted to meth who uses it for free money>> >> >> >> >I've been laid off just about 1-1/2 years and my COBRA just ran out. I have been denied twice for private insurance. I can get some of my meds generic at Walmart, Target & /or Hyvee. I have a dr. appt coming w/blood draw but will have to cancel since I don't have the money to cover it...>> > Re: Insurance>> >>> >>> > >> > They are doing them at National Institutes of Health (NIH)>> > 9000 Rockville Pike>> > Bethesda, land 20892. >> >>> > Need to tell us more about how you think you have HYPERALDOSTERONISM. >> >>> > >> > >>> > > IT A NIGHTMARE TRYING TO GET INSURANCE I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO AT THIS POINT MY DIEASE IS GETTING WORSE,I TRIED CLINICAL TRIALS BUT NO ONE IS>> > > DOING CLINICALTRIALS ON HYPERALDOSTERONISM.UNBELIEVABLE!>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 I thought we are talking here about people on this site. They are not lazy an so on and so on. They are sick and they are unfortunate. I don't defend criminals. To: hyperaldosteronism Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 4:27:18 PMSubject: Re: Re: Insurance Some people are truly lazy, some want to party and take drugs, some beat their wives and have felonies, some molest children. etc, etc, etc. they lose jobs or cant get jobs because of personal decisions. the rich do not them a dime. there is a profound diffrence between unfortunate and less fortunate. do not to spend money that does not belong to youOn Tue Mar 1st, 2011 3:09 PM CST Francis Bill SUSPECTED PA wrote:>What would you if this happened? >>You are driving and get distracted and go over the line and hit oncoming car driver gets killed you end up in wheelchair. Family member of driver that was killed sues for wrongful death wins case for $5,000,000. >>>> >> > >>> >> > > IT A NIGHTMARE TRYING TO GET INSURANCE I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO AT THIS POINT MY DIEASE IS GETTING WORSE,I TRIED CLINICAL TRIALS BUT NO ONE IS>> >> > > DOING CLINICALTRIALS ON HYPERALDOSTERONISM.UNBELIEVABLE!>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> > >> >>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 So WHERE do jobs come from? How may people work for you and what do you pay them?>> >> >I've been laid off just about 1-1/2 years and my COBRA just ran out. I have been denied twice for private insurance. I can get some of my meds generic at Walmart, Target & /or Hyvee. I have a dr. appt coming w/blood draw but will have to cancel since I don't have the money to cover it...>> > Re: Insurance>> >>> >>> > >> > They are doing them at National Institutes of Health (NIH)>> > 9000 Rockville Pike>> > Bethesda, land 20892. >> >>> > Need to tell us more about how you think you have HYPERALDOSTERONISM. >> >>> > >> > >>> > > IT A NIGHTMARE TRYING TO GET INSURANCE I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO AT THIS POINT MY DIEASE IS GETTING WORSE,I TRIED CLINICAL TRIALS BUT NO ONE IS>> > > DOING CLINICALTRIALS ON HYPERALDOSTERONISM.UNBELIEVABLE!>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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