Guest guest Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Oklahoma does not cover dental for anyone over 18. Juli To: hyperaldosteronism Cc: Clarence Grim Sent: Mon, February 28, 2011 12:06:37 AMSubject: Re: Re: Insurance I don't think Medicaid covers dental-much. Dentists don't want socialized dentistry. CE Grim MD On Feb 27, 2011, at 6:37 PM, Francis Bill SUSPECTED PA wrote: Seems you should be on Medicaid. If so all medical and dental care will be paid for. Next time check out clerk makes rude comments report them to supervisor. > >> > >> >> > > IT A NIGHTMARE TRYING TO GET INSURANCE I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO AT THIS POINT MY DIEASE IS GETTING WORSE,I TRIED CLINICAL TRIALS BUT NO ONE IS> >> > > DOING CLINICALTRIALS ON HYPERALDOSTERONISM.UNBELIEVABLE!> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Dentists do not want civilized dentistry. Powerful lobby. Or maybe there are no bad teeth in OK. Getting everyone to do preventive dentistry would put them out of business I suspect. CE Grim MDOklahoma does not cover dental for anyone over 18. JuliTo: hyperaldosteronism Cc: Clarence Grim Sent: Mon, February 28, 2011 12:06:37 AMSubject: Re: Re: Insurance I don't think Medicaid covers dental-much. Dentists don't want socialized dentistry.CE Grim MD On Feb 27, 2011, at 6:37 PM, Francis Bill SUSPECTED PA wrote:Seems you should be on Medicaid. If so all medical and dental care will be paid for. Next time check out clerk makes rude comments report them to supervisor. > >> > >> >> > > IT A NIGHTMARE TRYING TO GET INSURANCE I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO AT THIS POINT MY DIEASE IS GETTING WORSE,I TRIED CLINICAL TRIALS BUT NO ONE IS> >> > > DOING CLINICALTRIALS ON HYPERALDOSTERONISM.UNBELIEVABLE!> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 LOL! Pert near ;o) To: hyperaldosteronism Cc: Clarence Grim Sent: Mon, February 28, 2011 8:46:56 AMSubject: Re: Re: Insurance Man! or Woman! OK is tough. How do you get disabled by Social Security. Do they run over you or what? CE Grim MD Depending on the state you are in, there are different guidelines to be eligible for Medicaid. For instance, in Oklahoma, you have to be: blind, disabled by Social Security, over 65, pregnant or have a minor child at home. Those only make you categorically related...then you have to meet the income and resource requirements. I know other states like Kansas and California have less stringent requirements for categorical relationship. Juli To: "hyperaldosteronism " <hyperaldosteronism >Sent: Sun, February 27, 2011 11:32:37 AMSubject: Re: Re: Insurance My experience is that it is almost impossible to get Medicaid for just HTN. Butonce you have a stroke or hEart failure or need dialysis it you maybe covered. Makes more sense to cover Rx of BP BEFORE these happen. Like you and I cover HIV treAtment. We need a better HTN lobby. Tiped sad Send form mi iPhone ;-) May your pressure be low! CE Grim MD Specializing in Difficult Hypertension Have you tried to get Medicaid? > >> > IT A NIGHTMARE TRYING TO GET INSURANCE I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO AT THIS POINT MY DIEASE IS GETTING WORSE,I TRIED CLINICAL TRIALS BUT NO ONE IS> > DOING CLINICALTRIALS ON HYPERALDOSTERONISM.UNBELIEVABLE!> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Hey Juli, i lived in OK for 10 years. 3 of our 6 kids born there! My favorite place. most states dropped dental for adults. here in AZ they dont cover adults dental, but the dental thru medicaid for kids is great. >Dentists do not want civilized dentistry. Powerful lobby. Or maybe there are no bad teeth in OK. Getting everyone to do preventive dentistry would put them out of business I suspect. > >CE Grim MD > > >> >> Oklahoma does not cover dental for anyone over 18. >> >> Juli >> >> >> To: hyperaldosteronism >> Cc: Clarence Grim >> Sent: Mon, February 28, 2011 12:06:37 AM >> Subject: Re: Re: Insurance >> >> >> I don't think Medicaid covers dental-much. Dentists don't want socialized dentistry. >> >> CE Grim MD >> On Feb 27, 2011, at 6:37 PM, Francis Bill SUSPECTED PA wrote: >> >>> Seems you should be on Medicaid. If so all medical and dental care will be paid for. >>> >>> Next time check out clerk makes rude comments report them to supervisor. >>> >>> >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > > IT A NIGHTMARE TRYING TO GET INSURANCE I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO AT THIS POINT MY DIEASE IS GETTING WORSE,I TRIED CLINICAL TRIALS BUT NO ONE IS >>> > >> > > DOING CLINICALTRIALS ON HYPERALDOSTERONISM.UNBELIEVABLE! >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> >>> > >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 You can get disabled by SS by having a bad back. Or being a drug addict or alcoholic. Or by being too fat. And the topper is, they usually get more money per month than the people who worked their entire lives get from SS when they retire. I have a cousin who has been on SS disability since he was 36 because he has a "bad back". His back doesn't seem to bother him when he plays golf, though. This is a big reason SS is going broke. Man! or Woman! OK is tough. How do you get disabled by Social Security. Do they run over you or what? CE Grim MD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 The wealthy pay more in both actual taxes AND percentage. the dems perpetuate this myth knowing their party stays uninformed and let it be believed. truth is, the wealthy, like YOU AND ME, got a few tax BREAKS, but still pay 45%. .. . thats HALF their income. they pay a hell alot more! >So you like it that the rich are taxed less. I don't. > >CE Grim MD > > >> I have no problem my tax dollars going to you as YOU are who its for. . . . . ..but i am not rich and yet i do not believe those who are should pay MORE in taxes. They worked to get it and i, nor anyone else is not entitled to it. . . . ..sorry a bit of politics there >> >> >> >> >I worked since I was 13. I saw work as freedom. Loved what a paycheck gave me! Then as I was living in Ireland doing volunteer work and working full time- I started getting sick. Ended up back in USA and kept trying to work. Went from event coordinator picking up 50lb boxes with ease to driver to temp worker to self taught graphic artist. The last one because I could do it on good days, from my computer. Finally I couldn't even do that. I went into the human services office( welfare) >> >I cried the whole time. You never think this will happen to you. The worst part of it is the prejudice of people who have never been in my situation. Half the time I buy groceries I get rude degrading coments from the check out clerk. But what are my choices? My best friends son says I should just be left to die because taxpayers shouldn't be left to take care of me. Charming fellow. I hate being on welfare but I have no choice. And I for sure am not living the high life off the govt. I have to choose between dr visits , meds , bills and food each month. I taketurns. I take half doses. But I keep on truckin as they say. Who knows maybe I'll get well. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> YOU are the one who welfare is designed for. a hard working taxpayer who puts into, and will again., the system. it was not designed for the person having multiple kids out of wedlock who refuses to stop (octomom is a good example) or the man addicted to meth who uses it for free money >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I've been laid off just about 1-1/2 years and my COBRA just ran out. I have been denied twice for private insurance. I can get some of my meds generic at Walmart, Target & /or Hyvee. I have a dr. appt coming w/blood draw but will have to cancel since I don't have the money to cover it... >> >> > Re: Insurance >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > They are doing them at National Institutes of Health (NIH) >> >> > 9000 Rockville Pike >> >> > Bethesda, land 20892. >> >> > >> >> > Need to tell us more about how you think you have HYPERALDOSTERONISM. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > IT A NIGHTMARE TRYING TO GET INSURANCE I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO AT THIS POINT MY DIEASE IS GETTING WORSE,I TRIED CLINICAL TRIALS BUT NO ONE IS >> >> > > DOING CLINICALTRIALS ON HYPERALDOSTERONISM.UNBELIEVABLE! >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Top 5% of wealthy pay 90% of the bulk of taxes. you do the math. i would at least expect better informed from you. either way its not mine or obamas money. >So you like it that the rich are taxed less. I don't. > >CE Grim MD > > >> I have no problem my tax dollars going to you as YOU are who its for. . . . . ..but i am not rich and yet i do not believe those who are should pay MORE in taxes. They worked to get it and i, nor anyone else is not entitled to it. . . . ..sorry a bit of politics there >> >> >> >> >I worked since I was 13. I saw work as freedom. Loved what a paycheck gave me! Then as I was living in Ireland doing volunteer work and working full time- I started getting sick. Ended up back in USA and kept trying to work. Went from event coordinator picking up 50lb boxes with ease to driver to temp worker to self taught graphic artist. The last one because I could do it on good days, from my computer. Finally I couldn't even do that. I went into the human services office( welfare) >> >I cried the whole time. You never think this will happen to you. The worst part of it is the prejudice of people who have never been in my situation. Half the time I buy groceries I get rude degrading coments from the check out clerk. But what are my choices? My best friends son says I should just be left to die because taxpayers shouldn't be left to take care of me. Charming fellow. I hate being on welfare but I have no choice. And I for sure am not living the high life off the govt. I have to choose between dr visits , meds , bills and food each month. I taketurns. I take half doses. But I keep on truckin as they say. Who knows maybe I'll get well. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> YOU are the one who welfare is designed for. a hard working taxpayer who puts into, and will again., the system. it was not designed for the person having multiple kids out of wedlock who refuses to stop (octomom is a good example) or the man addicted to meth who uses it for free money >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I've been laid off just about 1-1/2 years and my COBRA just ran out. I have been denied twice for private insurance. I can get some of my meds generic at Walmart, Target & /or Hyvee. I have a dr. appt coming w/blood draw but will have to cancel since I don't have the money to cover it... >> >> > Re: Insurance >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > They are doing them at National Institutes of Health (NIH) >> >> > 9000 Rockville Pike >> >> > Bethesda, land 20892. >> >> > >> >> > Need to tell us more about how you think you have HYPERALDOSTERONISM. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > IT A NIGHTMARE TRYING TO GET INSURANCE I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO AT THIS POINT MY DIEASE IS GETTING WORSE,I TRIED CLINICAL TRIALS BUT NO ONE IS >> >> > > DOING CLINICALTRIALS ON HYPERALDOSTERONISM.UNBELIEVABLE! >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 All of the above what? Val > > At times all of the above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Hmm not in my part of the US.Did you not read the last Bush tax plan the Republicans just renewed.The wealthiest got the biggest tax breaks. Many will pay none. I am in Miami now and am amazed at all the yachts (which BTW have special tax breaks as I recall). Florida lawmakers give yacht buyers a sales tax break The wealthy pay more in both actual taxes AND percentage. the dems perpetuate this myth knowing their party stays uninformed and let it be believed. truth is, the wealthy, like YOU AND ME, got a few tax BREAKS, but still pay 45%. . . thats HALF their income. they pay a hell alot more!>So you like it that the rich are taxed less. I don't.>>CE Grim MD>>>> I have no problem my tax dollars going to you as YOU are who its for. . . . . .but i am not rich and yet i do not believe those who are should pay MORE in taxes. They worked to get it and i, nor anyone else is not entitled to it. . . . .sorry a bit of politics there>> >> >> >> >I worked since I was 13. I saw work as freedom. Loved what a paycheck gave me! Then as I was living in Ireland doing volunteer work and working full time- I started getting sick. Ended up back in USA and kept trying to work. Went from event coordinator picking up 50lb boxes with ease to driver to temp worker to self taught graphic artist. The last one because I could do it on good days, from my computer. Finally I couldn't even do that. I went into the human services office( welfare)>> >I cried the whole time. You never think this will happen to you. The worst part of it is the prejudice of people who have never been in my situation. Half the time I buy groceries I get rude degrading coments from the check out clerk. But what are my choices? My best friends son says I should just be left to die because taxpayers shouldn't be left to take care of me. Charming fellow. I hate being on welfare but I have no choice. And I for sure am not living the high life off the govt. I have to choose between dr visits , meds , bills and food each month. I taketurns. I take half doses. But I keep on truckin as they say. Who knows maybe I'll get well.>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> YOU are the one who welfare is designed for. a hard working taxpayer who puts into, and will again., the system. it was not designed for the person having multiple kids out of wedlock who refuses to stop (octomom is a good example) or the man addicted to meth who uses it for free money>> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >I've been laid off just about 1-1/2 years and my COBRA just ran out. I have been denied twice for private insurance. I can get some of my meds generic at Walmart, Target & /or Hyvee. I have a dr. appt coming w/blood draw but will have to cancel since I don't have the money to cover it...>> >> > Re: Insurance>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> > They are doing them at National Institutes of Health (NIH)>> >> > 9000 Rockville Pike>> >> > Bethesda, land 20892.>> >> >>> >> > Need to tell us more about how you think you have HYPERALDOSTERONISM.>> >> >>> >> > >> >> > >>> >> > > IT A NIGHTMARE TRYING TO GET INSURANCE I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO AT THIS POINT MY DIEASE IS GETTING WORSE,I TRIED CLINICAL TRIALS BUT NO ONE IS>> >> > > DOING CLINICALTRIALS ON HYPERALDOSTERONISM.UNBELIEVABLE!>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Hmm never seen those numbers. Can you show me where they are? What we should have is a flat tax with no loopholes IHMO.CE Grim MDTop 5% of wealthy pay 90% of the bulk of taxes. you do the math. i would at least expect better informed from you. either way its not mine or obamas money.>So you like it that the rich are taxed less. I don't.>>CE Grim MD>>>> I have no problem my tax dollars going to you as YOU are who its for. . . . . .but i am not rich and yet i do not believe those who are should pay MORE in taxes. They worked to get it and i, nor anyone else is not entitled to it. . . . .sorry a bit of politics there>> >> >> >> >I worked since I was 13. I saw work as freedom. Loved what a paycheck gave me! Then as I was living in Ireland doing volunteer work and working full time- I started getting sick. Ended up back in USA and kept trying to work. Went from event coordinator picking up 50lb boxes with ease to driver to temp worker to self taught graphic artist. The last one because I could do it on good days, from my computer. Finally I couldn't even do that. I went into the human services office( welfare)>> >I cried the whole time. You never think this will happen to you. The worst part of it is the prejudice of people who have never been in my situation. Half the time I buy groceries I get rude degrading coments from the check out clerk. But what are my choices? My best friends son says I should just be left to die because taxpayers shouldn't be left to take care of me. Charming fellow. I hate being on welfare but I have no choice. And I for sure am not living the high life off the govt. I have to choose between dr visits , meds , bills and food each month. I taketurns. I take half doses. But I keep on truckin as they say. Who knows maybe I'll get well.>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> YOU are the one who welfare is designed for. a hard working taxpayer who puts into, and will again., the system. it was not designed for the person having multiple kids out of wedlock who refuses to stop (octomom is a good example) or the man addicted to meth who uses it for free money>> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >I've been laid off just about 1-1/2 years and my COBRA just ran out. I have been denied twice for private insurance. I can get some of my meds generic at Walmart, Target & /or Hyvee. I have a dr. appt coming w/blood draw but will have to cancel since I don't have the money to cover it...>> >> > Re: Insurance>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> > They are doing them at National Institutes of Health (NIH)>> >> > 9000 Rockville Pike>> >> > Bethesda, land 20892.>> >> >>> >> > Need to tell us more about how you think you have HYPERALDOSTERONISM.>> >> >>> >> > >> >> > >>> >> > > IT A NIGHTMARE TRYING TO GET INSURANCE I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO AT THIS POINT MY DIEASE IS GETTING WORSE,I TRIED CLINICAL TRIALS BUT NO ONE IS>> >> > > DOING CLINICALTRIALS ON HYPERALDOSTERONISM.UNBELIEVABLE!>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Hopefully the new team is going to tighten up on this sort of fraud. You can always report him and get some $ as I recall, but maybe not.There are some rewards for reporting such abuse. google wins againReport Fraud to the Office of Inspector General ...To help protect yourself and Medicare from fraud and identity theft you should report it. Whenever you get a payment notice from Medicare review it for errors.www.stopmedicarefraud.gov/reportfraud.html - CachedYou can get disabled by SS by having a bad back. Or being a drug addict or alcoholic. Or by being too fat. And the topper is, they usually get more money per month than the people who worked their entire lives get from SS when they retire. I have a cousin who has been on SS disability since he was 36 because he has a "bad back". His back doesn't seem to bother him when he plays golf, though. This is a big reason SS is going broke. Man! or Woman! OK is tough. How do you get disabled by Social Security. Do they run over you or what?CE Grim MD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 I tried that several years ago when a doctor was billing Medicare for procedures not done on my father. The first time I was told that "it's not that much money", the second time I called they told me "don't worry about it". I quite taking him to this doctor but no telling how much money this guy stole from Medicare, I'm sure my father was not the only one. You can get disabled by SS by having a bad back. Or being a drug addict or alcoholic. Or by being too fat. And the topper is, they usually get more money per month than the people who worked their entire lives get from SS when they retire. I have a cousin who has been on SS disability since he was 36 because he has a "bad back". His back doesn't seem to bother him when he plays golf, though. This is a big reason SS is going broke. Man! or Woman! OK is tough. How do you get disabled by Social Security. Do they run over you or what? CE Grim MD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 I think (hope) they are taking this more seriously now.CE Grim MDI tried that several years ago when a doctor was billing Medicare for procedures not done on my father. The first time I was told that "it's not that much money", the second time I called they told me "don't worry about it". I quite taking him to this doctor but no telling how much money this guy stole from Medicare, I'm sure my father was not the only one. You can get disabled by SS by having a bad back. Or being a drug addict or alcoholic. Or by being too fat. And the topper is, they usually get more money per month than the people who worked their entire lives get from SS when they retire. I have a cousin who has been on SS disability since he was 36 because he has a "bad back". His back doesn't seem to bother him when he plays golf, though. This is a big reason SS is going broke. Man! or Woman! OK is tough. How do you get disabled by Social Security. Do they run over you or what?CE Grim MD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Like it or not, Medicaid is welfare because it is funded by general tax collections. Medicare is an insurance program because it is funded (in theory) by individual contributions to a Medicare account. In fact, the premium for Medicare Part B, the physician part, is paid monthly by the recipient. Medicaid, BTW, is state and federally funded. Val From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of juli idunno Medicaid was designed to assist people who cannot afford insurance....but Val, though Medicaid may be state funded, it's comments like that that make people with a true need for it think they are bilking the system. Juli Medicaid is welfare and is available depending on income level. The disease involved is irrelevant. Val From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Clarence Grim My experience is that it is almost impossible to get Medicaid for just HTN. Butonce you have a stroke or hEart failure or need dialysis it you maybe covered. Makes more sense to cover Rx of BP BEFORE these happen. Like you and I cover HIV treAtment. We need a better HTN lobby. On Feb 27, 2011, at 11:10 AM, Francis Bill SUSPECTED PA wrote: Have you tried to get Medicaid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Juli-please give us your 1 sentence ID so we (or at least I) can tell you from the other 500 we have here. don't want to get you mixed up with others. As best as I can recall off the top of my head is you had an ADx several years ago and are now having new problems?But prob have you mixed up with someone else. May your salt intake and pressure be low!Clarence Grim BS, MS, MDSenior Consultant to Shared Care Research and Education Consulting, Inc.Clarence Grim BS, MS, MD FACP, FACCBoard Certified in Internal Medicine, Geriatrics and Hypertension. Training and faculty positions in past in Cardiology, Endocrinology and Nephrology LOL! Pert near ;o)To: hyperaldosteronism Cc: Clarence Grim Sent: Mon, February 28, 2011 8:46:56 AMSubject: Re: Re: Insurance Man! or Woman! OK is tough. How do you get disabled by Social Security. Do they run over you or what?CE Grim MDDepending on the state you are in, there are different guidelines to be eligible for Medicaid. For instance, in Oklahoma, you have to be: blind, disabled by Social Security, over 65, pregnant or have a minor child at home. Those only make you categorically related...then you have to meet the income and resource requirements. I know other states like Kansas and California have less stringent requirements for categorical relationship. JuliTo: "hyperaldosteronism " <hyperaldosteronism >Sent: Sun, February 27, 2011 11:32:37 AMSubject: Re: Re: Insurance My experience is that it is almost impossible to get Medicaid for just HTN. Butonce you have a stroke or hEart failure or need dialysis it you maybe covered. Makes more sense to cover Rx of BP BEFORE these happen. Like you and I cover HIV treAtment. We need a better HTN lobby. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension Have you tried to get Medicaid? > >> > IT A NIGHTMARE TRYING TO GET INSURANCE I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO AT THIS POINT MY DIEASE IS GETTING WORSE,I TRIED CLINICAL TRIALS BUT NO ONE IS> > DOING CLINICALTRIALS ON HYPERALDOSTERONISM.UNBELIEVABLE!> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Renewing the Bush tax plan saved the lowest income earners from a 50% tax increase, and the wealthiest from a 3% tax increase. Florida yacht tax has nothing to do with Bush or for that matter, any of us who do not live in Florida. Val From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Clarence Grim Hmm not in my part of the US. Did you not read the last Bush tax plan the Republicans just renewed. The wealthiest got the biggest tax breaks. Many will pay none. I am in Miami now and am amazed at all the yachts (which BTW have special tax breaks as I recall). Florida lawmakers give yacht buyers a sales tax break Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Yay, yay, yay! Dr. Grim has disavowed punishing success! Val From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Clarence Grim Hmm never seen those numbers. Can you show me where they are? What we should have is a flat tax with no loopholes IHMO. CE Grim MD On Feb 28, 2011, at 8:58 AM, Bingham wrote: Top 5% of wealthy pay 90% of the bulk of taxes. you do the math. i would at least expect better informed from you. either way its not mine or obamas money. >So you like it that the rich are taxed less. I don't. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 That is misinformation. they got SOME tax breaks, not bigger ones. most people, out of envy, think they should get none. i say again it is their money and they should get tax breaks others get. if they have the dough to find a good tax person and tax shelters and deductions, good for them. >Renewing the Bush tax plan saved the lowest income earners from a 50% tax >increase, and the wealthiest from a 3% tax increase. Florida yacht tax has >nothing to do with Bush or for that matter, any of us who do not live in >Florida. > >Val > >From: hyperaldosteronism >[mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Clarence Grim > > >Hmm not in my part of the US. > >Did you not read the last Bush tax plan the Republicans just renewed. > >The wealthiest got the biggest tax breaks. Many will pay none. I am in >Miami now and am amazed at all the yachts (which BTW have special tax breaks >as I recall). > > > ><http://www.tampabay.com/news/florida-lawmakers-give-yacht-buyers-a-sales-ta >x-break/1082866> Florida lawmakers give yacht buyers a sales tax break > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 And to pay the lawmakers to get the loopholes in the first place.CE Grim MDThat is misinformation. they got SOME tax breaks, not bigger ones. most people, out of envy, think they should get none. i say again it is their money and they should get tax breaks others get. if they have the dough to find a good tax person and tax shelters and deductions, good for them.>Renewing the Bush tax plan saved the lowest income earners from a 50% tax>increase, and the wealthiest from a 3% tax increase. Florida yacht tax has>nothing to do with Bush or for that matter, any of us who do not live in>Florida.> >Val> >From: hyperaldosteronism >[mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Clarence Grim>>>Hmm not in my part of the US.> >Did you not read the last Bush tax plan the Republicans just renewed.> >The wealthiest got the biggest tax breaks. Many will pay none. I am in>Miami now and am amazed at all the yachts (which BTW have special tax breaks>as I recall). > >> ><http://www.tampabay.com/news/florida-lawmakers-give-yacht-buyers-a-sales-ta>x-break/1082866> Florida lawmakers give yacht buyers a sales tax break> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 I read the same info as you, Dr Grim. But then I don't get my 'facts' from fox news Hmm not in my part of the US.Did you not read the last Bush tax plan the Republicans just renewed.The wealthiest got the biggest tax breaks. Many will pay none. I am in Miami now and am amazed at all the yachts (which BTW have special tax breaks as I recall). Florida lawmakers give yacht buyers a sales tax break The wealthy pay more in both actual taxes AND percentage. the dems perpetuate this myth knowing their party stays uninformed and let it be believed. truth is, the wealthy, like YOU AND ME, got a few tax BREAKS, but still pay 45%. . . thats HALF their income. they pay a hell alot more!>So you like it that the rich are taxed less. I don't.>>CE Grim MD>>>> I have no problem my tax dollars going to you as YOU are who its for. . . . . .but i am not rich and yet i do not believe those who are should pay MORE in taxes. They worked to get it and i, nor anyone else is not entitled to it. . . . .sorry a bit of politics there>> >> >> >> >I worked since I was 13. I saw work as freedom. Loved what a paycheck gave me! Then as I was living in Ireland doing volunteer work and working full time- I started getting sick. Ended up back in USA and kept trying to work. Went from event coordinator picking up 50lb boxes with ease to driver to temp worker to self taught graphic artist. The last one because I could do it on good days, from my computer. Finally I couldn't even do that. I went into the human services office( welfare)>> >I cried the whole time. You never think this will happen to you. The worst part of it is the prejudice of people who have never been in my situation. Half the time I buy groceries I get rude degrading coments from the check out clerk. But what are my choices? My best friends son says I should just be left to die because taxpayers shouldn't be left to take care of me. Charming fellow. I hate being on welfare but I have no choice. And I for sure am not living the high life off the govt. I have to choose between dr visits , meds , bills and food each month. I taketurns. I take half doses. But I keep on truckin as they say. Who knows maybe I'll get well.>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> YOU are the one who welfare is designed for. a hard working taxpayer who puts into, and will again., the system. it was not designed for the person having multiple kids out of wedlock who refuses to stop (octomom is a good example) or the man addicted to meth who uses it for free money>> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >I've been laid off just about 1-1/2 years and my COBRA just ran out. I have been denied twice for private insurance. I can get some of my meds generic at Walmart, Target & /or Hyvee. I have a dr. appt coming w/blood draw but will have to cancel since I don't have the money to cover it...>> >> > Re: Insurance>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> > They are doing them at National Institutes of Health (NIH)>> >> > 9000 Rockville Pike>> >> > Bethesda, land 20892.>> >> >>> >> > Need to tell us more about how you think you have HYPERALDOSTERONISM.>> >> >>> >> > >> >> > >>> >> > > IT A NIGHTMARE TRYING TO GET INSURANCE I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO AT THIS POINT MY DIEASE IS GETTING WORSE,I TRIED CLINICAL TRIALS BUT NO ONE IS>> >> > > DOING CLINICALTRIALS ON HYPERALDOSTERONISM.UNBELIEVABLE!>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 It is pretty hard to get disability. It took me almost two years. I'm sure there are people abusing the system but I doubt it's the majority. You can get disabled by SS by having a bad back. Or being a drug addict or alcoholic. Or by being too fat. And the topper is, they usually get more money per month than the people who worked their entire lives get from SS when they retire. I have a cousin who has been on SS disability since he was 36 because he has a "bad back". His back doesn't seem to bother him when he plays golf, though. This is a big reason SS is going broke. Man! or Woman! OK is tough. How do you get disabled by Social Security. Do they run over you or what? CE Grim MD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Hahah Man! or Woman! OK is tough. How do you get disabled by Social Security. Do they run over you or what?CE Grim MDDepending on the state you are in, there are different guidelines to be eligible for Medicaid. For instance, in Oklahoma, you have to be: blind, disabled by Social Security, over 65, pregnant or have a minor child at home. Those only make you categorically related...then you have to meet the income and resource requirements. I know other states like Kansas and California have less stringent requirements for categorical relationship. JuliTo: "hyperaldosteronism " <hyperaldosteronism >Sent: Sun, February 27, 2011 11:32:37 AMSubject: Re: Re: Insurance My experience is that it is almost impossible to get Medicaid for just HTN. Butonce you have a stroke or hEart failure or need dialysis it you maybe covered. Makes more sense to cover Rx of BP BEFORE these happen. Like you and I cover HIV treAtment. We need a better HTN lobby. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension Have you tried to get Medicaid? > >> > IT A NIGHTMARE TRYING TO GET INSURANCE I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO AT THIS POINT MY DIEASE IS GETTING WORSE,I TRIED CLINICAL TRIALS BUT NO ONE IS> > DOING CLINICALTRIALS ON HYPERALDOSTERONISM.UNBELIEVABLE!> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 I mean I agree w dr Grim. What a posted wasn't clear. I read the same info as you, Dr Grim. But then I don't get my 'facts' from fox news Hmm not in my part of the US.Did you not read the last Bush tax plan the Republicans just renewed.The wealthiest got the biggest tax breaks. Many will pay none. I am in Miami now and am amazed at all the yachts (which BTW have special tax breaks as I recall). Florida lawmakers give yacht buyers a sales tax break The wealthy pay more in both actual taxes AND percentage. the dems perpetuate this myth knowing their party stays uninformed and let it be believed. truth is, the wealthy, like YOU AND ME, got a few tax BREAKS, but still pay 45%. . . thats HALF their income. they pay a hell alot more!>So you like it that the rich are taxed less. I don't.>>CE Grim MD>>>> I have no problem my tax dollars going to you as YOU are who its for. . . . . .but i am not rich and yet i do not believe those who are should pay MORE in taxes. They worked to get it and i, nor anyone else is not entitled to it. . . . .sorry a bit of politics there>> >> >> >> >I worked since I was 13. I saw work as freedom. Loved what a paycheck gave me! Then as I was living in Ireland doing volunteer work and working full time- I started getting sick. Ended up back in USA and kept trying to work. Went from event coordinator picking up 50lb boxes with ease to driver to temp worker to self taught graphic artist. The last one because I could do it on good days, from my computer. Finally I couldn't even do that. I went into the human services office( welfare)>> >I cried the whole time. You never think this will happen to you. The worst part of it is the prejudice of people who have never been in my situation. Half the time I buy groceries I get rude degrading coments from the check out clerk. But what are my choices? My best friends son says I should just be left to die because taxpayers shouldn't be left to take care of me. Charming fellow. I hate being on welfare but I have no choice. And I for sure am not living the high life off the govt. I have to choose between dr visits , meds , bills and food each month. I taketurns. I take half doses. But I keep on truckin as they say. Who knows maybe I'll get well.>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> YOU are the one who welfare is designed for. a hard working taxpayer who puts into, and will again., the system. it was not designed for the person having multiple kids out of wedlock who refuses to stop (octomom is a good example) or the man addicted to meth who uses it for free money>> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >I've been laid off just about 1-1/2 years and my COBRA just ran out. I have been denied twice for private insurance. I can get some of my meds generic at Walmart, Target & /or Hyvee. I have a dr. appt coming w/blood draw but will have to cancel since I don't have the money to cover it...>> >> > Re: Insurance>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> > They are doing them at National Institutes of Health (NIH)>> >> > 9000 Rockville Pike>> >> > Bethesda, land 20892.>> >> >>> >> > Need to tell us more about how you think you have HYPERALDOSTERONISM.>> >> >>> >> > >> >> > >>> >> > > IT A NIGHTMARE TRYING TO GET INSURANCE I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO AT THIS POINT MY DIEASE IS GETTING WORSE,I TRIED CLINICAL TRIALS BUT NO ONE IS>> >> > > DOING CLINICALTRIALS ON HYPERALDOSTERONISM.UNBELIEVABLE!>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 I make 46 dollars too much to get Medicaid. I'm sure that's no accident. If social security gave me 46 less then I would have that extra 20% , that Medicare doesn't cover, paid. In Boston I got Medicaid but not in Texas. I did my monthly shopping today and thought of you. Thanks. I get so flustered when ppl make comments that I become speechless. Which frustrates me more haha Seems you should be on Medicaid. If so all medical and dental care will be paid for. Next time check out clerk makes rude comments report them to supervisor. > >> > > > >> > > IT A NIGHTMARE TRYING TO GET INSURANCE I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO AT THIS POINT MY DIEASE IS GETTING WORSE,I TRIED CLINICAL TRIALS BUT NO ONE IS > >> > > DOING CLINICALTRIALS ON HYPERALDOSTERONISM.UNBELIEVABLE! > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 I took my DASH list to the grocer today. I was surprised how much of it was food I already like. I try to limit gluten so that cuts out some. My problem is being able to get to the store for fresh food. I hadn't been able to shop for the last three weeks due to dizziness and fatigue. So I buy tinned veggies and rinse them off. And frozen berries. I love berries. My grandmother used to have us eat berries anytime we had a belly ache. Not sure why it works but it does. And don't forget to DASH. WILL Save ur life when u run out ofMeds prob. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension I worked since I was 13. I saw work as freedom. Loved what a paycheck gave me! Then as I was living in Ireland doing volunteer work and working full time- I started getting sick. Ended up back in USA and kept trying to work. Went from event coordinator picking up 50lb boxes with ease to driver to temp worker to self taught graphic artist. The last one because I could do it on good days, from my computer. Finally I couldn't even do that. I went into the human services office( welfare) I cried the whole time. You never think this will happen to you. The worst part of it is the prejudice of people who have never been in my situation. Half the time I buy groceries I get rude degrading coments from the check out clerk. But what are my choices? My best friends son says I should just be left to die because taxpayers shouldn't be left to take care of me. Charming fellow. I hate being on welfare but I have no choice. And I for sure am not living the high life off the govt. I have to choose between dr visits , meds , bills and food each month. I taketurns. I take half doses. But I keep on truckin as they say. Who knows maybe I'll get well. YOU are the one who welfare is designed for. a hard working taxpayer who puts into, and will again., the system. it was not designed for the person having multiple kids out of wedlock who refuses to stop (octomom is a good example) or the man addicted to meth who uses it for free money >I've been laid off just about 1-1/2 years and my COBRA just ran out. I have been denied twice for private insurance. I can get some of my meds generic at Walmart, Target & /or Hyvee. I have a dr. appt coming w/blood draw but will have to cancel since I don't have the money to cover it... > Re: Insurance > > > > They are doing them at National Institutes of Health (NIH) > 9000 Rockville Pike > Bethesda, land 20892. > > Need to tell us more about how you think you have HYPERALDOSTERONISM. > > > > > > IT A NIGHTMARE TRYING TO GET INSURANCE I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO AT THIS POINT MY DIEASE IS GETTING WORSE,I TRIED CLINICAL TRIALS BUT NO ONE IS > > DOING CLINICALTRIALS ON HYPERALDOSTERONISM.UNBELIEVABLE! > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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