Re: DIAGNOSE ME PLEASE AND RESOLVE!

[Guest guest]

I can't diagnose you, only a doctor can do that after spending time with

you. But I can say for myself. I have to deal with some issues.

1. How would my life change if I get the body I dream of? What would I have

to deal with. What am I afraid of? 2. Which do I want more, the body of my

dreams, or sitting my butt on the couch and eating crap?

3. What am I going to have to give up in order to get what I want.

4. Do I think I'm worth it? if not, why not?

5. Is fitness a priority? if not why not? my last challange I made it a

priority. I scheduled it on my schedule and if I had to make choices, my

workouts came first in the line up. The first 8 weeks this go round I didn't

make it a priority and it shows. The last four? I'm doing it come hell or

Ike.

This morning case in point. I should be on a six mile run. I can't find my

mp3 player. My back up mp3 player needs batteries, right now I'm looking for

them. Why didn't I do this last night? I was having a pity party over

another issue. I wasn't prepared and now my running will be delayed an hour.

I could go back to bed. Thats what most people do, and thats not " bad " it

just won't get me the body I want/

Read Bill book Body for Life. Lots of people know how to be healthy

and have great bodies. They just choose to sleep more, eat crap and to not

do what it takes.

On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 11:25 PM, marie_thisisit

<no_reply >wrote:

> OMG! I have a problem. I started BFL about 1 1/2 years ago. I

> have only been able to get through 5 weeks 3 separate times out of

> 12, not even close to each other on the calendar. I have always

> tried to get back on track while off and I haven't given up

> trying....and while not doing the periods of 5 weeks my eating is

> absolutely horrible...I eat chips, cheese, buttered popcorn, peanut

> m & m's, icen cream etc.... Still exercising a little while I have my

> eating binges which is a lot....and still trying to eat halfway

> healthy while having my binges.....

>

> While doing my 5 weeks, I do it almost perfect and gain muscle and

> lose weight...after I eat something not auhthorized, I lose it and

> pig out.....and after pigging out for a while I want to quit

> exercising. It's exhausting trying to get back on but exhausting if

> I don't get back on.

>

> What the hell is wrong with me....what do they call people like me.

>

> I want to make 12 weeks! I love eating bfl way and I feel 500%

> better when doing bfl......

>

> On the bright side of things....I went from a size 24/26, whatever

> is the biggest in the stores and I fit into my nieces 14 jeans the

> other day......If I don't get back on track soon, they won't fit me

> either.

>

> What can I do about staying on track, controlling my processed food

> binges (which i don't want)

>

> Everyone has been so great on here.......I am very thankful for

> every message to get me where I am at now.......

>

>

>

>

>

--

Sheila

There are only two options regarding commitment. You're either in or out.

There's no such thing as a life in-between.

[Guest guest]

You know I " STRUGGLED " many times doing my 12 weeks too. YEARS of failed

attempts trying to do a 12 week challenge.

I finally went back to my personal trainer. I used to go to him 10 years

ago, I was younger and had a decent body and didn't really need a lot of help

and didn't take it that seriously back then.

Once I got into my 30's my body changed, I found I just couldn't do it as

easily on my own anymore! So at 37, and about 20lbs from my goal, I decided I

needed something I just couldn't give myself. I decided to go back to my

personal trainer. I only see him 2 times a week, but I get a really good

workout and he gives me " pep talks " that just enlightens me. He also teaches

me,

and makes me stronger mentally too. So even though he works me out only twice

a week I continue on strong through the rest of the week on a high that he

has given me. Plus we set goals and he gives me pointers on my cardio that I

do on my own and he's a motivator and a positive thinker He's very

informative and tough, but very sweet and understanding and SO helpful. I

listen to

him intently and soak in everything he has to say like a sponge and play it

back in my head through the week when I am on my own. He's always with me! I

simply I LOVE HIM! He's my hero and with his help I'm doing this! LOL!!

So maybe you need to set up an appointment with a persoanl trainer and see

if maybe he/she can give you the motivation and help that you aren't able to

give yourself. Or maybe a Nutritionist is someone you need some motivation

from.

Don't think negative AT ALL. Just keep going on and try to find the help

you need. I hope these ideas on the list will help you pinpoint your area of

trouble. I know it can be frustrating but I know you'll get there if you

really want it!

SHEL

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[Guest guest]

And I have this to say about poor food choices. If you don't want to eat it,

why are you buying it? For your family? Sure. Who eats the most of it? if

its not your family then well? If it is your family you are going to have to

deal with the issue of " they get to eat xyz and I don't. " And if eating crap

is more important to you than having the body you want, then by all means

eat crap.

At some point we have to be able to detach food from emotion. And that is

hard. I'm 43 and don't have it down pat. Someone made a good point this week

about using food for comfort/reward. We have to use food for fuel ONLY and

get our other emotional needs met some other way.

(I think I'm preaching to myself here)

Sheila

[Guest guest]

And I meant to say, that 24 to 14 is AWESOME! You go girl. You clearly have

what it takes.

>

> And I have this to say about poor food choices. If you don't want to eat

> it, why are you buying it? For your family? Sure. Who eats the most of it?

> if its not your family then well? If it is your family you are going to have

> to deal with the issue of " they get to eat xyz and I don't. " And if eating

> crap is more important to you than having the body you want, then by all

> means eat crap.

>

> At some point we have to be able to detach food from emotion. And that is

> hard. I'm 43 and don't have it down pat. Someone made a good point this week

> about using food for comfort/reward. We have to use food for fuel ONLY and

> get our other emotional needs met some other way.

>

> (I think I'm preaching to myself here)

>

> Sheila

>

--

Sheila

There are only two options regarding commitment. You're either in or out.

There's no such thing as a life in-between.

[Guest guest]

Sheila's questions are brilliant. You need to address what's going on in

your head. Your thoughts are what lead you to stick to the plan or to bail

and eat cookies. So, don't let them go unexamined (your thoughts, not the

cookies ;-).

You may also find these helpful:

BFL for Cheaters and Binge Eaters

http://www.skwigg.com/id76.html

10 Rules for Misfit Body for Lifers

http://www.skwigg.com/id77.html

If you can do BFL clean and by the book, you'll obviously have much better

results. But if you can't do it by the book (or at all) the " cheaters "

approach is better than bingeing. It will at least keep you in the habit of

small frequent meals, protein, more fruits and vegetables. It will allow you

to maintain or gradually lose instead of backsliding completely.

On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 11:25 PM, marie_thisisit

<no_reply >wrote:

> OMG! I have a problem. I started BFL about 1 1/2 years ago. I

> have only been able to get through 5 weeks 3 separate times out of

> 12, not even close to each other on the calendar. I have always

> tried to get back on track while off and I haven't given up

> trying....and while not doing the periods of 5 weeks my eating is

> absolutely horrible...I eat chips, cheese, buttered popcorn, peanut

> m & m's, icen cream etc.... Still exercising a little while I have my

> eating binges which is a lot....and still trying to eat halfway

> healthy while having my binges.....

>

> While doing my 5 weeks, I do it almost perfect and gain muscle and

> lose weight...after I eat something not auhthorized, I lose it and

> pig out.....and after pigging out for a while I want to quit

> exercising. It's exhausting trying to get back on but exhausting if

> I don't get back on.

>

> What the hell is wrong with me....what do they call people like me.

>

> I want to make 12 weeks! I love eating bfl way and I feel 500%

> better when doing bfl......

>

> On the bright side of things....I went from a size 24/26, whatever

> is the biggest in the stores and I fit into my nieces 14 jeans the

> other day......If I don't get back on track soon, they won't fit me

> either.

>

> What can I do about staying on track, controlling my processed food

> binges (which i don't want)

>

> Everyone has been so great on here.......I am very thankful for

> every message to get me where I am at now.......

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ! First things first, CALM DOWN! You are not alone!

Not a single woman in our group is perfect, and everyone here faces

the same challenges you do. The important thing is, even if you

have to start over every five weeks, each time you make the

decision to start you are doing something wonderful for yourself and

your health. Don't give up!

Before we can diagnose, we need some info. Did you write down your

goals and patterns of action at the beginning? Did you write down

the habits that might cause you to backslide?

Do you plan your meals and workouts? Really plan them...write them

down and follow them to the letter? This is such an important part

of changing a lifestyle and making it stick.

I am a perpetual BFL'er as well, I just spent week three not working

out and eating only occasionally to plan. This is sad to me because

I lost 6 pounds of fat in the first two weeks and I feel and look so

much better. I just used some emotional baggage as an excuse to let

myself slack. My week four starts tomorrow, so I am spending my

free day planning and cooking and I will start back on track.

>

> OMG! I have a problem. I started BFL about 1 1/2 years ago. I

> have only been able to get through 5 weeks 3 separate times out

of

> 12, not even close to each other on the calendar. I have always

> tried to get back on track while off and I haven't given up

> trying....and while not doing the periods of 5 weeks my eating is

> absolutely horrible...I eat chips, cheese, buttered popcorn,

peanut

> m & m's, icen cream etc.... Still exercising a little while I have

my

> eating binges which is a lot....and still trying to eat halfway

> healthy while having my binges.....

>

> While doing my 5 weeks, I do it almost perfect and gain muscle and

> lose weight...after I eat something not auhthorized, I lose it and

> pig out.....and after pigging out for a while I want to quit

> exercising. It's exhausting trying to get back on but exhausting

if

> I don't get back on.

>

> What the hell is wrong with me....what do they call people like me.

>

> I want to make 12 weeks! I love eating bfl way and I feel 500%

> better when doing bfl......

>

> On the bright side of things....I went from a size 24/26, whatever

> is the biggest in the stores and I fit into my nieces 14 jeans the

> other day......If I don't get back on track soon, they won't fit

me

> either.

>

> What can I do about staying on track, controlling my processed

food

> binges (which i don't want)

>

> Everyone has been so great on here.......I am very thankful for

> every message to get me where I am at now.......

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

Dispite not being perfect, you have made great progress. Progress, not

perfection, remember. You might want to change your trigger foods to

once a day treats and have 100 cal or less of them, instead of total

deprivation.

Your diagnosis = normal human being

I recommend you subscribe for FREE, and then find the podcasts/audios

by Leigh Peele of Fat Loss Troubleshoot. She addresses your issues.

She is funny, brutally honest, and very knowledgeable about health and

fitness.

http://avidityfitness.net/

Subsribe field on right of window; right down the password, find the

subscribers' only section; find the podcasts. If you have iTunes I

recommend your subscribing, then you won't have to search for them on

the website (this password might work: byebyefat)

Here's the list of them; the ones with a *** might be where you might

want to start

Make My Body Hot-Final

Frustration Fat Loss 1

Frustration Fat Loss 2

Frustration Fat Loss 3

I Gotta Live, Right? ***

Get in and Get Out! ***

Crazy Fat Loss

The Basic, We don't need no stinking basics!

Leigh Answer Emails, A lot of them!

Etana

down 6 pounds past 2.5 weeks from Leigh's program Fat Loss

Troubleshoot. I now WEIGH every SINGLE thing; and count my splenda and

oil spray.

> OMG! I have a problem. I started BFL about 1 1/2 years ago. I

> have only been able to get through 5 weeks 3 separate times out of

> While doing my 5 weeks, I do it almost perfect and gain muscle and

> lose weight...after I eat something not auhthorized, I lose it and

> What the hell is wrong with me....what do they call people like me.

> I want to make 12 weeks! I love eating bfl way and I feel 500%

> On the bright side of things....I went from a size 24/26, whatever

> an I fit into my nieces 14 jeans the

[Guest guest]

Sheila wrote:

>Someone made a good point this week

>about using food for comfort/reward.

>We have to use food for fuel ONLY and

>get our other emotional needs met some other way.

I'd never been able to change this. I didn't want to " eat for fuel. "

However, I am now on a program prescribed by Leigh Peele called,

REPAIR, in which I am week by week increasing my calories from 1200 to

ultimately 2200 and then a week of refeed at 2200-2600. Also, each

week I have " macros " to hit calorie protein fat carb.

So I started dealing with it " like the doctor ordered " and found

myself writing every single morsel into fitday.com, (Leigh recommends

weighting, not estimating, your food amounts: see this video to see

how we might stall fat loss by poorly estimating)

....anyway, my point of this email is that because I was " following

doctors orders " I put my food in fitday, BODY FOR LIFE style food and

portions, a day ahead, for tomorrow. I'd never planned that much in

advance, but I created a day that " Hit the Macros " ... after a week, I

was more familiar with it, and could enter the food I had packed for

the day, and see that I had say, 400 cal left for dinner, of that I

needed more fat and protein. So I worked my dinner and snack around

what calories fat carb protein I had left to hit something like this:

1200 cal

40% protein or more

20-25% fat

25-30% carb

I have to tell you, I felt peaceful. I am hitting the macros EVERYDAY,

within 5% error. I feel the emotion is out of the picture. I do have a

piece of chocolate 4-5 days a week, but most of my fat is healthy nuts

avocados salmon olives olive oil and now fish oil. I REALLY wanted to

see if her program could help me, so I was pretty committed to clean

healthy food. She talks about " 1 item foods " like onion, green pepper,

tomato, chicken, rice: they could add together to be a meal. But she

suggests not eating the foods that have multiple ingredients. That has

REALLY helped me limit my choices; I wasn't eating much of that, but

now the percentage is even lower; occasional, but not often.

Taking the emotions out of eating has been a HUGE EYE OPENER FOR ME. I

feel so peaceful. I feel it is so simple now. I like my food. I am

learning to make it more sophisticated, after the first 2 weeks were

pretty simple combinations, not unlike BFL: ie, chicken and

sweetpotato and asparagus.

Taking the emotions out of eating, hitting the macros, and I am down 6

pounds in less than 3 weeks, go figure? I'd been stalled for months.

I feel so peaceful.

I don't feel frustrated.

I feel successful

I feel proud

I am looking in the mirror again.

I am happier

So being scientific about food has been a wonder for me, not a sacrifice.

I actually sit and have a whole ounce of almonds as a treat, instead

of binging at end of night on 2-3 oz of almonds. The attitude is so

different. Scientific. Pleasurable. Go figure! ?

Etana

[Guest guest]

Hey there, . I've been through sporadic binges amidst my BFL

efforts too. The best thing I've ever done is to get rid of any of

those bad foods. If they're not in the house, you can't eat them.

(Then, of course, you have to not allow yourself to go out and buy the

stuff when you crave it either.)

Now I still give in occasionally and eat something horrible when I'm

trying to eat clean. But when I can force myself to stay away from the

M & Ms and ice cream for 48 hours (which always seems like an eternity),

then I magically don't really feel like eating those things anymore.

It's wonderful! I've had to ask my husband to be strict with me and

keep me away from it, but it's worth it.

There's nothing wrong with you! It sounds like you've already come a

long way, so you're way ahead of lots of people out there. Celebrate

every step you make in the right direction, even if you're not doing

it " perfectly " . Make your choices one at a time--don't get into the

" well, I've already ruined my eating for today anyway " mentality. And

focus on the progress you DO make, and how good it feels to make

healthy choices.

- Janine

[Guest guest]

I am a psychologist. You don't need a diagnosis. You need a new way of

thinking. You seem to think in extremes where eating is concerned:

100% BFL or binge. If you eat one thing that isn't on the program, you

decide that you're in binge mode. That is what you want to address.

Here are some ideas. Practice eating one non BFL food a day. Plan it

the day before. It will teach you that there are many eating plans in

between the extremes. Make it a no option rule that you will eat

nothing without writing it down. A program like Gyminee can help you

see exactly what you are eating and can help you get control. Get your

binge trigger foods out of the house. You may want to ore-plan your

free day foods and portions to help you get control. Write down the

things you say to yourself in a binge. Then write statements that

refute these thoughts. For example, if you think " I blew it, " refute

it with, " eating one thing is not blowing it. I am still eating 90%

BFL or better and I will get A results. " Have your new thoughts

visible for you to review daily. You can do it! But you have to think

of yourself like an addict. You need structure, accountability and

vigilence. Best wishes!

http://wonderwomen.typepad.com

On Sep 12, 2008, at 11:25 PM, marie_thisisit

<no_reply > wrote:

> OMG! I have a problem. I started BFL about 1 1/2 years ago. I

> have only been able to get through 5 weeks 3 separate times out of

> 12, not even close to each other on the calendar. I have always

> tried to get back on track while off and I haven't given up

> trying....and while not doing the periods of 5 weeks my eating is

> absolutely horrible...I eat chips, cheese, buttered popcorn, peanut

> m & m's, icen cream etc.... Still exercising a little while I have my

> eating binges which is a lot....and still trying to eat halfway

> healthy while having my binges.....

>

> While doing my 5 weeks, I do it almost perfect and gain muscle and

> lose weight...after I eat something not auhthorized, I lose it and

> pig out.....and after pigging out for a while I want to quit

> exercising. It's exhausting trying to get back on but exhausting if

> I don't get back on.

>

> What the hell is wrong with me....what do they call people like me.

>

> I want to make 12 weeks! I love eating bfl way and I feel 500%

> better when doing bfl......

>

> On the bright side of things....I went from a size 24/26, whatever

> is the biggest in the stores and I fit into my nieces 14 jeans the

> other day......If I don't get back on track soon, they won't fit me

> either.

>

> What can I do about staying on track, controlling my processed food

> binges (which i don't want)

>

> Everyone has been so great on here.......I am very thankful for

> every message to get me where I am at now.......

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

You might look into this program too:

http://www.radiantrecovery.com/7steps.htm

On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 10:25 PM, marie_thisisit

<no_reply >wrote:

> OMG! I have a problem. I started BFL about 1 1/2 years ago. I

> have only been able to get through 5 weeks 3 separate times out of

> 12, not even close to each other on the calendar. I have always

> tried to get back on track while off and I haven't given up

> trying....and while not doing the periods of 5 weeks my eating is

> absolutely horrible...I eat chips, cheese, buttered popcorn, peanut

> m & m's, icen cream etc.... Still exercising a little while I have my

> eating binges which is a lot....and still trying to eat halfway

> healthy while having my binges.....

>

> While doing my 5 weeks, I do it almost perfect and gain muscle and

> lose weight...after I eat something not auhthorized, I lose it and

> pig out.....and after pigging out for a while I want to quit

> exercising. It's exhausting trying to get back on but exhausting if

> I don't get back on.

>

> What the hell is wrong with me....what do they call people like me.

>

> I want to make 12 weeks! I love eating bfl way and I feel 500%

> better when doing bfl......

>

> On the bright side of things....I went from a size 24/26, whatever

> is the biggest in the stores and I fit into my nieces 14 jeans the

> other day......If I don't get back on track soon, they won't fit me

> either.

>

> What can I do about staying on track, controlling my processed food

> binges (which i don't want)

>

> Everyone has been so great on here.......I am very thankful for

> every message to get me where I am at now.......

>

>

>

>

>

--

Diane M. in CO

[Guest guest]

hi jennifer and group..

i to have this same problem.. my timing is different then yours.. but

i did great for like 2 yrs straight... i lost 40 lbs.. then i started

to forget where i came from .. and would get down on my self for not

being further a-head.... sometimes u have to just go with it.. and

when u fall off the wagon as i call it except that .. examine it

and see why it happens... eventually u have to learn to reprogram your

thoughts.. or coping mechanisms... so those questions they listed

where really good..

my latest trick is the secrete... u know it was on opera.. well i

watch it weekly and its helping me re focus my mind and what i want

and asking for it.. and visualizing what i want..

i hurt my back in all this.. and that has really tossed me off the

wagon cause i cant do anything but walk.. and barley that... i manage

to stretch daily for like an hr just to move.. so i have really had to

address my caloric intake.. and that is so hard for me.. i love food..

and the stress of the pain makes me wanna eat to forget my legs hurt

so bad..

anyway your not alone.. just think positive.. and remember how long it

took u to get where u were when u started bfl .. and know its gonna

potentialy take that long to clean it up..so for me i spent 27 yrs

messing up my body.. and for the last 3 yrs i have been trying to fix

it.. thats why bfl is so nice.. its a lifestyle.. not a diet..

good luck to you all

and enjoy the rest of your late summers...

annie

>

> OMG! I have a problem. I started BFL about 1 1/2 years ago. I

> have only been able to get through 5 weeks 3 separate times out of

> 12, not even close to each other on the calendar. I have always

> tried to get back on track while off and I haven't given up

> trying....and while not doing the periods of 5 weeks my eating is

> absolutely horrible...I eat chips, cheese, buttered popcorn, peanut

> m & m's, icen cream etc.... Still exercising a little while I have my

> eating binges which is a lot....and still trying to eat halfway

> healthy while having my binges.....

>

> While doing my 5 weeks, I do it almost perfect and gain muscle and

> lose weight...after I eat something not auhthorized, I lose it and

> pig out.....and after pigging out for a while I want to quit

> exercising. It's exhausting trying to get back on but exhausting if

> I don't get back on.

>

> What the hell is wrong with me....what do they call people like me.

>

> I want to make 12 weeks! I love eating bfl way and I feel 500%

> better when doing bfl......

>

> On the bright side of things....I went from a size 24/26, whatever

> is the biggest in the stores and I fit into my nieces 14 jeans the

> other day......If I don't get back on track soon, they won't fit me

> either.

>

> What can I do about staying on track, controlling my processed food

> binges (which i don't want)

>

> Everyone has been so great on here.......I am very thankful for

> every message to get me where I am at now.......

>

>

>