Re: Filtering Vanilla Tincture

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Do you think the tincture ( which I intend on learning because I have so many

things in my garden to that with ) is a good alternative to the absolutes,

bourbons? AND can you please tell me or tell me where I can read about how to

strain this stuff. Does the scent get lost at all after straining?

Hi ,

This is my first time doing a vanilla tincture so I don't have all of the

answers but so far I can say that it is a very strong tincture (at 12.5% beans

to alcohol). I applied a small drop on my skin and, though not as strong as

vanilla absolute, it was very true to the smell of the beans and lasted quite a

bit of time on my skin. I don't see why the tincture will loose any of its

scent after filtering since the scent is now in the alcohol.

Though I don't think the tincture is an alternative to the absolute or the CO2

extraction (try CO2 if you haven't) I do believe the tincture is a great tool to

have around when you want to add a more delicate vanilla touch to a perfume to

soften it's edges and give it some sweetness and sensuality.

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I have done various vanilla tinctures. I think the longer you leave them

the better. If you don't need to use it immediately I would just set it

aside and check on its progress after a month.

The idea of filtering a part of it is interesting.

Most of my flower tinctures I leave longer also.

JoAnne Bassett, Fragrance Therapist - Natural Couture Perfumer

http://www.JoAnneBassett.com

http://AromaticJourneys.blogspot.com

http://www.facebook.com/joannebassett.perfumer

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> Though I don't think the tincture is an alternative to the absolute or the CO2

extraction (try CO2 if you haven't) I do believe the tincture is a great tool to

have around when you want to add a more delicate vanilla touch to a perfume to

soften it's edges and give it some sweetness and sensuality.

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Hi Folks....

The tincture I made of vanilla bean a while back was nowhere near as

strong as the absolute I have...But I made it for the exact same reason...

I also made several strengths, the lesser intended to be used as perfume

diluent....You get just the lightest kiss of vanilla, and since it's

made with 95% ethanol...

--

W. Bourbonais

L'Hermite Aromatique

A.J.P. (GIA)

http://www.facebook.com/Le.Hermite

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To: NaturalPerfumery

Sent: Thu, January 20, 2011 5:56:21 PM

Subject: Re: Filtering Vanilla Tincture

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> Originally I planned on letting my Vanilla Tincture mature for 1 month before

>filtering but I really think it is ready to get filtered tomorrow (2 weeks

>later). The tincture is rather dark and has a wonderful aroma. I let a few

>friends sniff the bottle (the scent is penetrating the cover) and they all

loved

>it. It is sweet, rich and alluring. So I think I will be filtering tomorrow

(2

>weeks earlier than expected) unless someone with more experience with Vanilla

>Tincture suggests otherwise.

>

Hi, I am relatively new at perfumery and have used a lot of vanilla bourbon and

the cost!! So just today I was thinking there must be a better way..I have to

strain it anyway because my blends with it are a bit cloudy.

Do you think the tincture ( which I intend on learning because I have so many

things in my garden to that with ) is a good alternative to the absolutes,

bourbons? AND can you please tell me or tell me where I can read about how to

strain this stuff. Does the scent get lost at all after straining?

Thanks so very much,

Stefanie

Hi Stefanie,

I think the longer you tincture the beans the better (stronger) the tincture

gets. Ditto what JoAnne stated. I have experimented with oil infusing and

alcohol tinctures and had very good results. I prefer using these tinctures in

my perfumes instead of vanilla absolute which I find hard to work with. Vanilla

CO2 is wonderful and possesses a slightly different aroma and strength. I like

Eden Botanicals Vanilla CO2 as it contains a higher percentage of vanillin and

is potent, allowing me to use less and still achieve the effect I'm seeking.

A note about the vanilla bean tincture, I've found that how you cut up the beans

effects the appearance and aroma of the tincture. I've tried slicing the beans

lengthwise as Pueblo mentioned and it seemed to take longer to scent the

alcohol, however the alcohol only faintly changed in color which is often

desirable. I've tried cutting the beans into small 1/2 inch pieces with kitchen

scissors and also putting them into the food processor and creating a " mash " of

vanilla and adding it to alcohol to tincture. The mash seemed to be the

strongest but colored the alcohol dark brown--similar to vanilla extract.

Filtering is easy, just pour through a unbleached coffee filter. I've rarely

found even a tiny speck of vanilla left in the tincture after filtering this

way. You can use finer grade filter paper if necessary. The scent does not get

lost after filtering, as long as you let it tincture for awhile first. I'd

recommend at least a month maybe if possible? I've had some going for many

months. It depends on how strong you want it.

Tahitian and madagascar beans smell very different.

Charna Ethier

Providence Perfume Co.

http://www.providenceperfume.com

info@...

[Guest guest]

Someone correct me if I am wrong, but from what I understand, the longer you

let it go the better it gets.

[Guest guest]

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> Someone correct me if I am wrong, but from what I understand, the longer you

> let it go the better it gets.

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At some point you will reach equilibrium - the odor molecules will be equally

spread out throughout. The question is, when? There will be many factors that

determine when you reach this point. Temp, agitation, particle size, etc.. You

will have to either experiment or trust your nose - or find someone else who has

actually done this enough to have specific suggestions.

[Guest guest]

> Someone correct me if I am wrong, but from what I understand, the longer you

> let it go the better it gets.

I went ahead and filtered the Vanilla tincture last night. Though I'm sure it

would probably get stronger if I let it macerate for a month instead of 2 weeks,

I found that the vanilla tincture was at a very desirable strength at around 2

weeks. My intention for the vanilla tincture was to have a very soft vanilla

scent since I can easily use the absolute or the CO2 if I am seeking a strong

alternative. Either way I will most likely make another batch soon and let it

macerate for 1 month to see what the difference is.

I've created an album called " Tinctures " in the photos section and uploaded a

photo of the filtered vanilla tincture. I'll be uploading other tincture

extract photos in the future too. Please feel free to add your own pics to the

album.

[Guest guest]

Elian, thanks for making a Tincturing photo section, because

nobody thought of it before!

Anya McCoy

http://AnyasGarden.com

http://PerfumeClasses.com

http://NaturalPerfumers.com

[Guest guest]

Elian, thanks for making a Tincturing photo section, because

nobody thought of it before!

Anya

Great idea - I added a photo of my Buddha's hand tincture.  I have filtered out

the peels a month later and it's beautiful!  I will take a photo of the pure

tincture when I get a moment and add it to the album.  I talk about making the

tincture in my blog at

http://bellyflowers.blogspot.com/2010/12/buddhas-hand-tincture.html .

Elise

www.tambela.com

www.bellyflowers.com

[Guest guest]

Elian, thanks for making a Tincturing photo section, because

> nobody thought of it before!

I added a photo of my Buddha's hand tincture.  I have filtered out

> the peels a month later and it's beautiful!

Your welcome Anya, and thank you Elise for adding to the album. I have my

Goat tincture at home so I will take a pic of that and add it tonight.