Re: Good food with low salt

April 20, 2011

5 kids uh? I have 6 and one on the way and grew up the oldest of 8.....so we know something about crockpots don't we . I love that thing!Subject: Good food with low saltTo: hyperaldosteronism Date: Wednesday, April 20, 2011, 8:09 PM

I agree. Once you start to think low salt you can find alternatives. I recently heard of using romaine lettuce leaves instead of tortillas for burritos and tacos. We eat lots of beans which are great for potassium, but the tortillas are super high in sodium. I think this will work great when I don't want just a "bowl" of beans. Beans are so high in K that I think a crockpot with beans out to be prescribed like a medical device:) to people with PA.I would love to hear other people's recipes for good food that is low in salt. I use about 5 kinds of Mrs. Dash and do use lots of spices, but don't have any many recipes that are low salt. Any tried and true ones that you love?Thanks,40 yo WF, 5 kids, Marine Corps

wifeTo: hyperaldosteronism Sent: Wed, April 20, 2011 2:10:21 PMSubject: Re: Can PA really make you this ill?!

Ah yes of course DASH, of course I saw the Bravo Article, people could leave the medication just by dashing, it's amazing, and when they had all the salt they could eat they would take up to 600mg of spiro without effect.

anyhow to the original poster please forget about the Dash book that's just a starting point, but your life has to change, start by removing all salt from your food, at the begining it is a bit shocking but with time and a bit of patience and some research you get to eat very good without any salt.

lets see, now, I make my own bread with KCL ( salt suplement ) ,, I make my own V8 for instance as well, and I changed ground meat for textured soy protein ( high in potassium ) yesterday I had burgers LOW LOW sodium burgers with textured protein meat and no salt whatsoever some sodium on the buns and low sodium cheese.

they where excelent ( and some low sodium ketchup )

Then we use a lot of spices right now so that helps with the flavor a lot, actually all my family changed to low sodium and since we discovered my condition on october we have not wasted a 1/4 pound bag of salt.

we still have like 1/4 of the bag, now my daugther can't stand macdonalds or burgerking the food is just too salty.

they like salty food like popcorn for instance but I make my own saltless popcorn, with kernels.

oh and not only that I'm on a diet to loose weight so I am even more restricted.

But really I eat pizza, and good home made pizza, real tomatoes, made into sauce, low cal and low sodium cheese, lots of tomato and basil, and I make the pizza dough, with ( yes you guessed it ) Kcl salt.

Anyhow this is not a DASH diet, it's a Dash lifestyle change for your own health, think of salt as a poison for you, remove it and your life will be a lot better

tc

> > > >

> > > > > I'm waiting to see a new endocrinologist next week as I've

> > been very unhappy with the care I've received to date - including

> > not bothering to check my aldo/renin results for 6 months. When they

> > were done in Oct they were aldo- 620 pmol/l and renin 0.2pmol/hr

> > (don't have the normal ranges for the lab yet).

> > > > >

> > > > > Currently I feel like I have flu, I seem to have episodes

> > (that last weeks not days) where I feel much worse than others, now

> > is a bad time. Everything aches, I am extremely dizzy, have a very

> > bad headache that never goes (almost feels like my face is

> > paralysed) and I am really weak. I've not managed to leave the house

> > in 4 weeks apart from a hospital appt.

> > > > >

> > > > > Potassium levels checked several times and are normal.

> > > > >

> > > > > Can all this really be down to the PA? Am hoping to start

> > spiro next week if new dr agrees.

> > > > >

> > > > > Fiona

> > > > > 29 yr old female, high BP for 7 years, ongoing problems since

> > birth of daughter 11 months ago. Aldo 660pmol, renin 0.2pmol/hf,

> > waiting for saline suppression results. MRI found 1.6mm tumour on

> > right adrenal gland, although it wasn't fatty. Potassium levels

> > normal. On lercanidipine 10mg and bisoprolol 5mg x2 day.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

April 20, 2011

It is my plan to feed my kids through their ravenous teen years. A bottomless crock pot of beans! Oldest is just ten so we have a few years, but they seem to get hungrier by the minute!To: hyperaldosteronism Sent: Wed, April 20, 2011 9:15:07 PMSubject: Re: Good food with low salt

5 kids uh? I have 6 and one on the way and grew up the oldest of 8.....so we know something about crockpots don't we . I love that thing!Subject: Good food with low saltTo: hyperaldosteronism Date: Wednesday, April 20, 2011, 8:09 PM

I agree. Once you start to think low salt you can find alternatives. I recently heard of using romaine lettuce leaves instead of tortillas for burritos and tacos. We eat lots of beans which are great for potassium, but the tortillas are super high in sodium. I think this will work great when I don't want just a "bowl" of beans. Beans are so high in K that I think a crockpot with beans out to be prescribed like a medical device:) to people with PA.I would love to hear other people's recipes for good food that is low in salt. I use about 5 kinds of Mrs. Dash and do use lots of spices, but don't have any many recipes that are low salt. Any tried and true ones that you love?Thanks,40 yo WF, 5 kids, Marine Corps

wifeTo: hyperaldosteronism Sent: Wed, April 20, 2011 2:10:21 PMSubject: Re: Can PA really make you this ill?!

Ah yes of course DASH, of course I saw the Bravo Article, people could leave the medication just by dashing, it's amazing, and when they had all the salt they could eat they would take up to 600mg of spiro without effect.

anyhow to the original poster please forget about the Dash book that's just a starting point, but your life has to change, start by removing all salt from your food, at the begining it is a bit shocking but with time and a bit of patience and some research you get to eat very good without any salt.

lets see, now, I make my own bread with KCL ( salt suplement ) ,, I make my own V8 for instance as well, and I changed ground meat for textured soy protein ( high in potassium ) yesterday I had burgers LOW LOW sodium burgers with textured protein meat and no salt whatsoever some sodium on the buns and low sodium cheese.

they where excelent ( and some low sodium ketchup )

Then we use a lot of spices right now so that helps with the flavor a lot, actually all my family changed to low sodium and since we discovered my condition on october we have not wasted a 1/4 pound bag of salt.

we still have like 1/4 of the bag, now my daugther can't stand macdonalds or burgerking the food is just too salty.

they like salty food like popcorn for instance but I make my own saltless popcorn, with kernels.

oh and not only that I'm on a diet to loose weight so I am even more restricted.

But really I eat pizza, and good home made pizza, real tomatoes, made into sauce, low cal and low sodium cheese, lots of tomato and basil, and I make the pizza dough, with ( yes you guessed it ) Kcl salt.

Anyhow this is not a DASH diet, it's a Dash lifestyle change for your own health, think of salt as a poison for you, remove it and your life will be a lot better

tc

> > > >

> > > > > I'm waiting to see a new endocrinologist next week as I've

> > been very unhappy with the care I've received to date - including

> > not bothering to check my aldo/renin results for 6 months. When they

> > were done in Oct they were aldo- 620 pmol/l and renin 0.2pmol/hr

> > (don't have the normal ranges for the lab yet).

> > > > >

> > > > > Currently I feel like I have flu, I seem to have episodes

> > (that last weeks not days) where I feel much worse than others, now

> > is a bad time. Everything aches, I am extremely dizzy, have a very

> > bad headache that never goes (almost feels like my face is

> > paralysed) and I am really weak. I've not managed to leave the house

> > in 4 weeks apart from a hospital appt.

> > > > >

> > > > > Potassium levels checked several times and are normal.

> > > > >

> > > > > Can all this really be down to the PA? Am hoping to start

> > spiro next week if new dr agrees.

> > > > >

> > > > > Fiona

> > > > > 29 yr old female, high BP for 7 years, ongoing problems since

> > birth of daughter 11 months ago. Aldo 660pmol, renin 0.2pmol/hf,

> > waiting for saline suppression results. MRI found 1.6mm tumour on

> > right adrenal gland, although it wasn't fatty. Potassium levels

> > normal. On lercanidipine 10mg and bisoprolol 5mg x2 day.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

April 20, 2011

We know they already have early atherosclerosis proportional to what their BP and lipids were in kindergarden. So now is the time to start preventing it from getting worse. Keep up the good work. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension

It is my plan to feed my kids through their ravenous teen years. A bottomless crock pot of beans! Oldest is just ten so we have a few years, but they seem to get hungrier by the minute!To: hyperaldosteronism Sent: Wed, April 20, 2011 9:15:07 PMSubject: Re: Good food with low salt

5 kids uh? I have 6 and one on the way and grew up the oldest of 8.....so we know something about crockpots don't we . I love that thing!Subject: Good food with low saltTo: hyperaldosteronism Date: Wednesday, April 20, 2011, 8:09 PM

I agree. Once you start to think low salt you can find alternatives. I recently heard of using romaine lettuce leaves instead of tortillas for burritos and tacos. We eat lots of beans which are great for potassium, but the tortillas are super high in sodium. I think this will work great when I don't want just a "bowl" of beans. Beans are so high in K that I think a crockpot with beans out to be prescribed like a medical device:) to people with PA.I would love to hear other people's recipes for good food that is low in salt. I use about 5 kinds of Mrs. Dash and do use lots of spices, but don't have any many recipes that are low salt. Any tried and true ones that you love?Thanks,40 yo WF, 5 kids, Marine Corps

wifeTo: hyperaldosteronism Sent: Wed, April 20, 2011 2:10:21 PMSubject: Re: Can PA really make you this ill?!

Ah yes of course DASH, of course I saw the Bravo Article, people could leave the medication just by dashing, it's amazing, and when they had all the salt they could eat they would take up to 600mg of spiro without effect.

anyhow to the original poster please forget about the Dash book that's just a starting point, but your life has to change, start by removing all salt from your food, at the begining it is a bit shocking but with time and a bit of patience and some research you get to eat very good without any salt.

lets see, now, I make my own bread with KCL ( salt suplement ) ,, I make my own V8 for instance as well, and I changed ground meat for textured soy protein ( high in potassium ) yesterday I had burgers LOW LOW sodium burgers with textured protein meat and no salt whatsoever some sodium on the buns and low sodium cheese.

they where excelent ( and some low sodium ketchup )

Then we use a lot of spices right now so that helps with the flavor a lot, actually all my family changed to low sodium and since we discovered my condition on october we have not wasted a 1/4 pound bag of salt.

we still have like 1/4 of the bag, now my daugther can't stand macdonalds or burgerking the food is just too salty.

they like salty food like popcorn for instance but I make my own saltless popcorn, with kernels.

oh and not only that I'm on a diet to loose weight so I am even more restricted.

But really I eat pizza, and good home made pizza, real tomatoes, made into sauce, low cal and low sodium cheese, lots of tomato and basil, and I make the pizza dough, with ( yes you guessed it ) Kcl salt.

Anyhow this is not a DASH diet, it's a Dash lifestyle change for your own health, think of salt as a poison for you, remove it and your life will be a lot better

tc

> > > >

> > > > > I'm waiting to see a new endocrinologist next week as I've

> > been very unhappy with the care I've received to date - including

> > not bothering to check my aldo/renin results for 6 months. When they

> > were done in Oct they were aldo- 620 pmol/l and renin 0.2pmol/hr

> > (don't have the normal ranges for the lab yet).

> > > > >

> > > > > Currently I feel like I have flu, I seem to have episodes

> > (that last weeks not days) where I feel much worse than others, now

> > is a bad time. Everything aches, I am extremely dizzy, have a very

> > bad headache that never goes (almost feels like my face is

> > paralysed) and I am really weak. I've not managed to leave the house

> > in 4 weeks apart from a hospital appt.

> > > > >

> > > > > Potassium levels checked several times and are normal.

> > > > >

> > > > > Can all this really be down to the PA? Am hoping to start

> > spiro next week if new dr agrees.

> > > > >

> > > > > Fiona

> > > > > 29 yr old female, high BP for 7 years, ongoing problems since

> > birth of daughter 11 months ago. Aldo 660pmol, renin 0.2pmol/hf,

> > waiting for saline suppression results. MRI found 1.6mm tumour on

> > right adrenal gland, although it wasn't fatty. Potassium levels

> > normal. On lercanidipine 10mg and bisoprolol 5mg x2 day.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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The DASH book has tons of recipes. If you have not gotten it yet do so now for your and your broods health. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension

I agree. Once you start to think low salt you can find alternatives. I recently heard of using romaine lettuce leaves instead of tortillas for burritos and tacos. We eat lots of beans which are great for potassium, but the tortillas are super high in sodium. I think this will work great when I don't want just a "bowl" of beans. Beans are so high in K that I think a crockpot with beans out to be prescribed like a medical device:) to people with PA.I would love to hear other people's recipes for good food that is low in salt. I use about 5 kinds of Mrs. Dash and do use lots of spices, but don't have any many recipes that are low salt. Any tried and true ones that you love?Thanks,40 yo WF, 5 kids, Marine Corps

wifeTo: hyperaldosteronism Sent: Wed, April 20, 2011 2:10:21 PMSubject: Re: Can PA really make you this ill?!

Ah yes of course DASH, of course I saw the Bravo Article, people could leave the medication just by dashing, it's amazing, and when they had all the salt they could eat they would take up to 600mg of spiro without effect.

anyhow to the original poster please forget about the Dash book that's just a starting point, but your life has to change, start by removing all salt from your food, at the begining it is a bit shocking but with time and a bit of patience and some research you get to eat very good without any salt.

lets see, now, I make my own bread with KCL ( salt suplement ) ,, I make my own V8 for instance as well, and I changed ground meat for textured soy protein ( high in potassium ) yesterday I had burgers LOW LOW sodium burgers with textured protein meat and no salt whatsoever some sodium on the buns and low sodium cheese.

they where excelent ( and some low sodium ketchup )

Then we use a lot of spices right now so that helps with the flavor a lot, actually all my family changed to low sodium and since we discovered my condition on october we have not wasted a 1/4 pound bag of salt.

we still have like 1/4 of the bag, now my daugther can't stand macdonalds or burgerking the food is just too salty.

they like salty food like popcorn for instance but I make my own saltless popcorn, with kernels.

oh and not only that I'm on a diet to loose weight so I am even more restricted.

But really I eat pizza, and good home made pizza, real tomatoes, made into sauce, low cal and low sodium cheese, lots of tomato and basil, and I make the pizza dough, with ( yes you guessed it ) Kcl salt.

Anyhow this is not a DASH diet, it's a Dash lifestyle change for your own health, think of salt as a poison for you, remove it and your life will be a lot better

tc

> > > >

> > > > > I'm waiting to see a new endocrinologist next week as I've

> > been very unhappy with the care I've received to date - including

> > not bothering to check my aldo/renin results for 6 months. When they

> > were done in Oct they were aldo- 620 pmol/l and renin 0.2pmol/hr

> > (don't have the normal ranges for the lab yet).

> > > > >

> > > > > Currently I feel like I have flu, I seem to have episodes

> > (that last weeks not days) where I feel much worse than others, now

> > is a bad time. Everything aches, I am extremely dizzy, have a very

> > bad headache that never goes (almost feels like my face is

> > paralysed) and I am really weak. I've not managed to leave the house

> > in 4 weeks apart from a hospital appt.

> > > > >

> > > > > Potassium levels checked several times and are normal.

> > > > >

> > > > > Can all this really be down to the PA? Am hoping to start

> > spiro next week if new dr agrees.

> > > > >

> > > > > Fiona

> > > > > 29 yr old female, high BP for 7 years, ongoing problems since

> > birth of daughter 11 months ago. Aldo 660pmol, renin 0.2pmol/hf,

> > waiting for saline suppression results. MRI found 1.6mm tumour on

> > right adrenal gland, although it wasn't fatty. Potassium levels

> > normal. On lercanidipine 10mg and bisoprolol 5mg x2 day.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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April 20, 2011

Ahh the magical fruit diet

It is my plan to feed my kids through their ravenous teen years. A bottomless crock pot of beans! Oldest is just ten so we have a few years, but they seem to get hungrier by the minute!To: hyperaldosteronism Sent: Wed, April 20, 2011 9:15:07 PMSubject: Re: Good food with low salt

5 kids uh? I have 6 and one on the way and grew up the oldest of 8.....so we know something about crockpots don't we . I love that thing!Subject: Good food with low saltTo: hyperaldosteronism Date: Wednesday, April 20, 2011, 8:09 PM

I agree. Once you start to think low salt you can find alternatives. I recently heard of using romaine lettuce leaves instead of tortillas for burritos and tacos. We eat lots of beans which are great for potassium, but the tortillas are super high in sodium. I think this will work great when I don't want just a "bowl" of beans. Beans are so high in K that I think a crockpot with beans out to be prescribed like a medical device:) to people with PA.I would love to hear other people's recipes for good food that is low in salt. I use about 5 kinds of Mrs. Dash and do use lots of spices, but don't have any many recipes that are low salt. Any tried and true ones that you love?Thanks,40 yo WF, 5 kids, Marine Corps

wifeTo: hyperaldosteronism Sent: Wed, April 20, 2011 2:10:21 PMSubject: Re: Can PA really make you this ill?!

Ah yes of course DASH, of course I saw the Bravo Article, people could leave the medication just by dashing, it's amazing, and when they had all the salt they could eat they would take up to 600mg of spiro without effect.

anyhow to the original poster please forget about the Dash book that's just a starting point, but your life has to change, start by removing all salt from your food, at the begining it is a bit shocking but with time and a bit of patience and some research you get to eat very good without any salt.

lets see, now, I make my own bread with KCL ( salt suplement ) ,, I make my own V8 for instance as well, and I changed ground meat for textured soy protein ( high in potassium ) yesterday I had burgers LOW LOW sodium burgers with textured protein meat and no salt whatsoever some sodium on the buns and low sodium cheese.

they where excelent ( and some low sodium ketchup )

Then we use a lot of spices right now so that helps with the flavor a lot, actually all my family changed to low sodium and since we discovered my condition on october we have not wasted a 1/4 pound bag of salt.

we still have like 1/4 of the bag, now my daugther can't stand macdonalds or burgerking the food is just too salty.

they like salty food like popcorn for instance but I make my own saltless popcorn, with kernels.

oh and not only that I'm on a diet to loose weight so I am even more restricted.

But really I eat pizza, and good home made pizza, real tomatoes, made into sauce, low cal and low sodium cheese, lots of tomato and basil, and I make the pizza dough, with ( yes you guessed it ) Kcl salt.

Anyhow this is not a DASH diet, it's a Dash lifestyle change for your own health, think of salt as a poison for you, remove it and your life will be a lot better

tc

> > > >

> > > > > I'm waiting to see a new endocrinologist next week as I've

> > been very unhappy with the care I've received to date - including

> > not bothering to check my aldo/renin results for 6 months. When they

> > were done in Oct they were aldo- 620 pmol/l and renin 0.2pmol/hr

> > (don't have the normal ranges for the lab yet).

> > > > >

> > > > > Currently I feel like I have flu, I seem to have episodes

> > (that last weeks not days) where I feel much worse than others, now

> > is a bad time. Everything aches, I am extremely dizzy, have a very

> > bad headache that never goes (almost feels like my face is

> > paralysed) and I am really weak. I've not managed to leave the house

> > in 4 weeks apart from a hospital appt.

> > > > >

> > > > > Potassium levels checked several times and are normal.

> > > > >

> > > > > Can all this really be down to the PA? Am hoping to start

> > spiro next week if new dr agrees.

> > > > >

> > > > > Fiona

> > > > > 29 yr old female, high BP for 7 years, ongoing problems since

> > birth of daughter 11 months ago. Aldo 660pmol, renin 0.2pmol/hf,

> > waiting for saline suppression results. MRI found 1.6mm tumour on

> > right adrenal gland, although it wasn't fatty. Potassium levels

> > normal. On lercanidipine 10mg and bisoprolol 5mg x2 day.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

April 20, 2011

I use cabbage leaves, they hold up great and have a nice crunch. Excellent w minced chicken done Asian style

I agree. Once you start to think low salt you can find alternatives. I recently heard of using romaine lettuce leaves instead of tortillas for burritos and tacos. We eat lots of beans which are great for potassium, but the tortillas are super high in sodium. I think this will work great when I don't want just a "bowl" of beans. Beans are so high in K that I think a crockpot with beans out to be prescribed like a medical device:) to people with PA.I would love to hear other people's recipes for good food that is low in salt. I use about 5 kinds of Mrs. Dash and do use lots of spices, but don't have any many recipes that are low salt. Any tried and true ones that you love?Thanks,40 yo WF, 5 kids, Marine Corps

wifeTo: hyperaldosteronism Sent: Wed, April 20, 2011 2:10:21 PMSubject: Re: Can PA really make you this ill?!

Ah yes of course DASH, of course I saw the Bravo Article, people could leave the medication just by dashing, it's amazing, and when they had all the salt they could eat they would take up to 600mg of spiro without effect.

anyhow to the original poster please forget about the Dash book that's just a starting point, but your life has to change, start by removing all salt from your food, at the begining it is a bit shocking but with time and a bit of patience and some research you get to eat very good without any salt.

lets see, now, I make my own bread with KCL ( salt suplement ) ,, I make my own V8 for instance as well, and I changed ground meat for textured soy protein ( high in potassium ) yesterday I had burgers LOW LOW sodium burgers with textured protein meat and no salt whatsoever some sodium on the buns and low sodium cheese.

they where excelent ( and some low sodium ketchup )

Then we use a lot of spices right now so that helps with the flavor a lot, actually all my family changed to low sodium and since we discovered my condition on october we have not wasted a 1/4 pound bag of salt.

we still have like 1/4 of the bag, now my daugther can't stand macdonalds or burgerking the food is just too salty.

they like salty food like popcorn for instance but I make my own saltless popcorn, with kernels.

oh and not only that I'm on a diet to loose weight so I am even more restricted.

But really I eat pizza, and good home made pizza, real tomatoes, made into sauce, low cal and low sodium cheese, lots of tomato and basil, and I make the pizza dough, with ( yes you guessed it ) Kcl salt.

Anyhow this is not a DASH diet, it's a Dash lifestyle change for your own health, think of salt as a poison for you, remove it and your life will be a lot better

tc

> > > >

> > > > > I'm waiting to see a new endocrinologist next week as I've

> > been very unhappy with the care I've received to date - including

> > not bothering to check my aldo/renin results for 6 months. When they

> > were done in Oct they were aldo- 620 pmol/l and renin 0.2pmol/hr

> > (don't have the normal ranges for the lab yet).

> > > > >

> > > > > Currently I feel like I have flu, I seem to have episodes

> > (that last weeks not days) where I feel much worse than others, now

> > is a bad time. Everything aches, I am extremely dizzy, have a very

> > bad headache that never goes (almost feels like my face is

> > paralysed) and I am really weak. I've not managed to leave the house

> > in 4 weeks apart from a hospital appt.

> > > > >

> > > > > Potassium levels checked several times and are normal.

> > > > >

> > > > > Can all this really be down to the PA? Am hoping to start

> > spiro next week if new dr agrees.

> > > > >

> > > > > Fiona

> > > > > 29 yr old female, high BP for 7 years, ongoing problems since

> > birth of daughter 11 months ago. Aldo 660pmol, renin 0.2pmol/hf,

> > waiting for saline suppression results. MRI found 1.6mm tumour on

> > right adrenal gland, although it wasn't fatty. Potassium levels

> > normal. On lercanidipine 10mg and bisoprolol 5mg x2 day.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

April 21, 2011

Isn't it easier just to look at ways of cooking that don't use salt at all

rather than trying to find substitutes for old favourites? So use potatoes and

rice as carbs instead of pasta or bread (or make your own). Then if you start

with straight meat or fish and veg or fruit, I don't get how zero salt can be so

challenging. You just don't add it. Virtually anything can be zero salt if you

cook from scratch - casseroles, pies, meat with veg (and sauce), same for fish,

veggie dishes. Really the only thing that is hard to make without sodium is

things that need to rise (dough, cakes) and if everything else in your diet is

so low on salt, that shouldn't put you over the totals.

Clearly this isn't complete dashing because then you have to boost the potassium

part too but low sodium alone is really not hard unless I've missed a trick.

H

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > I'm waiting to see a new endocrinologist next week as I've

> > > > been very unhappy with the care I've received to date - including

> > > > not bothering to check my aldo/renin results for 6 months. When they

> > > > were done in Oct they were aldo- 620 pmol/l and renin 0.2pmol/hr

> > > > (don't have the normal ranges for the lab yet).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Currently I feel like I have flu, I seem to have episodes

> > > > (that last weeks not days) where I feel much worse than others, now

> > > > is a bad time. Everything aches, I am extremely dizzy, have a very

> > > > bad headache that never goes (almost feels like my face is

> > > > paralysed) and I am really weak. I've not managed to leave the house

> > > > in 4 weeks apart from a hospital appt.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Potassium levels checked several times and are normal.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Can all this really be down to the PA? Am hoping to start

> > > > spiro next week if new dr agrees.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Fiona

> > > > > > > 29 yr old female, high BP for 7 years, ongoing problems since

> > > > birth of daughter 11 months ago. Aldo 660pmol, renin 0.2pmol/hf,

> > > > waiting for saline suppression results. MRI found 1.6mm tumour on

> > > > right adrenal gland, although it wasn't fatty. Potassium levels

> > > > normal. On lercanidipine 10mg and bisoprolol 5mg x2 day.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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April 21, 2011

If every thing is from scratch no problem. One measure to keep track of is how many boxes of salt do u buy a year? 1500 Mg a day is about 2 boxes a year. So if Everything is from scratch u can use 2 boxes a year per person. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension

Isn't it easier just to look at ways of cooking that don't use salt at all rather than trying to find substitutes for old favourites? So use potatoes and rice as carbs instead of pasta or bread (or make your own). Then if you start with straight meat or fish and veg or fruit, I don't get how zero salt can be so challenging. You just don't add it. Virtually anything can be zero salt if you cook from scratch - casseroles, pies, meat with veg (and sauce), same for fish, veggie dishes. Really the only thing that is hard to make without sodium is things that need to rise (dough, cakes) and if everything else in your diet is so low on salt, that shouldn't put you over the totals.

Clearly this isn't complete dashing because then you have to boost the potassium part too but low sodium alone is really not hard unless I've missed a trick.

H

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > I'm waiting to see a new endocrinologist next week as I've

> > > > been very unhappy with the care I've received to date - including

> > > > not bothering to check my aldo/renin results for 6 months. When they

> > > > were done in Oct they were aldo- 620 pmol/l and renin 0.2pmol/hr

> > > > (don't have the normal ranges for the lab yet).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Currently I feel like I have flu, I seem to have episodes

> > > > (that last weeks not days) where I feel much worse than others, now

> > > > is a bad time. Everything aches, I am extremely dizzy, have a very

> > > > bad headache that never goes (almost feels like my face is

> > > > paralysed) and I am really weak. I've not managed to leave the house

> > > > in 4 weeks apart from a hospital appt.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Potassium levels checked several times and are normal.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Can all this really be down to the PA? Am hoping to start

> > > > spiro next week if new dr agrees.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Fiona

> > > > > > > 29 yr old female, high BP for 7 years, ongoing problems since

> > > > birth of daughter 11 months ago. Aldo 660pmol, renin 0.2pmol/hf,

> > > > waiting for saline suppression results. MRI found 1.6mm tumour on

> > > > right adrenal gland, although it wasn't fatty. Potassium levels

> > > > normal. On lercanidipine 10mg and bisoprolol 5mg x2 day.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

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April 21, 2011

Be

careful of meat. Much is infused

with sodium. A realistic size for a

serving should be 60 - 80 mg Na.

Some infused meats are 400% of that.

Val

From: hyperaldosteronism

[mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of hesterfenwick

Isn't it easier just to look at ways of cooking that don't

use salt at all rather than trying to find substitutes for old favourites? So

use potatoes and rice as carbs instead of pasta or bread (or make your own).

Then if you start with straight meat or fish and veg or fruit, I don't get how

zero salt can be so challenging. You just don't add it. Virtually anything can

be zero salt if you cook from scratch - casseroles, pies, meat with veg (and

sauce), same for fish, veggie dishes. Really the only thing that is hard to

make without sodium is things that need to rise (dough, cakes) and if

everything else in your diet is so low on salt, that shouldn't put you over the

totals.

Clearly this isn't complete dashing because then you have to boost the

potassium part too but low sodium alone is really not hard unless I've missed a

trick.

H

April 21, 2011

I keep seeing this issue come up. There is a solution - shop at a

natural/organic market such as Whole Foods (not sure if they are national or

not). It might cost a bit more, but you can be assured of meat, fish and poultry

free of unnecessary additives.

>

> Be careful of meat. Much is infused with sodium. A realistic size for a

> serving should be 60 - 80 mg Na. Some infused meats are 400% of that.

>

> Val

>

> From: hyperaldosteronism

> [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of hesterfenwick

>

> Isn't it easier just to look at ways of cooking that don't use salt at all

> rather than trying to find substitutes for old favourites? So use potatoes

> and rice as carbs instead of pasta or bread (or make your own). Then if you

> start with straight meat or fish and veg or fruit, I don't get how zero salt

> can be so challenging. You just don't add it. Virtually anything can be zero

> salt if you cook from scratch - casseroles, pies, meat with veg (and sauce),

> same for fish, veggie dishes. Really the only thing that is hard to make

> without sodium is things that need to rise (dough, cakes) and if everything

> else in your diet is so low on salt, that shouldn't put you over the totals.

>

> Clearly this isn't complete dashing because then you have to boost the

> potassium part too but low sodium alone is really not hard unless I've

> missed a trick.

>

> H

>

April 21, 2011

Alternatively,

just read the labels. Walmart's buffalo meat is not infused but everything else

there is (at least at the one near me).

Val

From: hyperaldosteronism

[mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of msmith_1928

I keep seeing this issue come up. There is a solution - shop

at a natural/organic market such as Whole Foods (not sure if they are national

or not). It might cost a bit more, but you can be assured of meat, fish and

poultry free of unnecessary additives.

>

> Be careful of meat. Much is infused with sodium. A realistic size for a

> serving should be 60 - 80 mg Na. Some infused meats are 400% of that.

>

April 21, 2011

Be careful as the legal standards of what is natural and "organic" does not have to be free of anything and everything. Even "decaf" soda and coffee have some caffeine.

And If they are using less to produce why does it cost more? Poop is organic fertilizer, let's hope that's not one they are growing with - or maybe it's not as innocent and pure as we think (okay but likely still better for us) or as unfortunate to me we are as humans given that as alturistic, benevolent, green, energy conscious or whatever we want to believe we are the $$$ still reigns supreme - that's my organic beef with those places. Their selling point is it's better for you, but it's a selling point to sell it, they just have a different angle and on Friday they want to put your cash in their bank just like Wal-Mart does.

So caution is still the word so you don't get something not as wholesome as we think.

Subject: Re: Good food with low saltTo: hyperaldosteronism Date: Thursday, April 21, 2011, 4:49 PM

I keep seeing this issue come up. There is a solution - shop at a natural/organic market such as Whole Foods (not sure if they are national or not). It might cost a bit more, but you can be assured of meat, fish and poultry free of unnecessary additives.>> Be careful of meat. Much is infused with sodium. A realistic size for a> serving should be 60 - 80 mg Na. Some infused meats are 400% of that.> > Val> > From: hyperaldosteronism >

[mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of hesterfenwick> > > Isn't it easier just to look at ways of cooking that don't use salt at all> rather than trying to find substitutes for old favourites? So use potatoes> and rice as carbs instead of pasta or bread (or make your own). Then if you> start with straight meat or fish and veg or fruit, I don't get how zero salt> can be so challenging. You just don't add it. Virtually anything can be zero> salt if you cook from scratch - casseroles, pies, meat with veg (and sauce),> same for fish, veggie dishes. Really the only thing that is hard to make> without sodium is things that need to rise (dough, cakes) and if everything> else in your diet is

so low on salt, that shouldn't put you over the totals.> > Clearly this isn't complete dashing because then you have to boost the> potassium part too but low sodium alone is really not hard unless I've> missed a trick.> > H>

April 21, 2011

It's always buyer beware - apparently that " enhanced meat " with added sodium is

legally supposed to be labeled as such, but often is not. More about enhanced

meat here: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/09/dining/09well.html

I do know that at Whole Foods, I can buy a chicken that comes with a label that

says " no sodium added " on it, so that's what I buy.

As for cost - they aren't cutting it with up to 25% salt and water, so it costs

more. The real reason behind the " enhanced " meat is producing more for less.

> >

> > Be careful of meat. Much is infused with sodium. A realistic size for a

> > serving should be 60 - 80 mg Na. Some infused meats are 400% of that.

> >

> > Val

> >

> > From: hyperaldosteronism

> > [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of hesterfenwick

> >

> > Isn't it easier just to look at ways of cooking that don't use salt at all

> > rather than trying to find substitutes for old favourites? So use potatoes

> > and rice as carbs instead of pasta or bread (or make your own). Then if you

> > start with straight meat or fish and veg or fruit, I don't get how zero salt

> > can be so challenging. You just don't add it. Virtually anything can be zero

> > salt if you cook from scratch - casseroles, pies, meat with veg (and sauce),

> > same for fish, veggie dishes. Really the only thing that is hard to make

> > without sodium is things that need to rise (dough, cakes) and if everything

> > else in your diet is so low on salt, that shouldn't put you over the totals.

> >

> > Clearly this isn't complete dashing because then you have to boost the

> > potassium part too but low sodium alone is really not hard unless I've

> > missed a trick.

> >

> > H

> >

>

April 21, 2011

And I do not know enough about the food to say to anyone what's really good and bad, just capitalism . But as a Red White and Blue American with a traditionally horrible diet I am listening. DASH took some serious, and still does, adjustments with a large family (and I used to love salt on my oranges and tomatoes - heck no wonder I have PA), but keep putting suggestions up. I am even drinking a V8 fusion as I type - should say swallowing it. Some things are a very acquired taste and some things sure are not. But I need the K and feel good when I do choke it down.

Subject: Re: Good food with low saltTo: hyperaldosteronism Date: Thursday, April 21, 2011, 5:40 PM

It's always buyer beware - apparently that "enhanced meat" with added sodium is legally supposed to be labeled as such, but often is not. More about enhanced meat here: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/09/dining/09well.htmlI do know that at Whole Foods, I can buy a chicken that comes with a label that says "no sodium added" on it, so that's what I buy.As for cost - they aren't cutting it with up to 25% salt and water, so it costs more. The real reason behind the "enhanced" meat is producing more for less.> >> > Be careful of meat. Much is infused with sodium. A realistic size for a> > serving should be 60 - 80 mg Na. Some infused meats are 400% of that.> > > > Val> > > > From: hyperaldosteronism > > [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of hesterfenwick> > > > > > Isn't it easier just to look at ways of cooking that don't use salt at

all> > rather than trying to find substitutes for old favourites? So use potatoes> > and rice as carbs instead of pasta or bread (or make your own). Then if you> > start with straight meat or fish and veg or fruit, I don't get how zero salt> > can be so challenging. You just don't add it. Virtually anything can be zero> > salt if you cook from scratch - casseroles, pies, meat with veg (and sauce),> > same for fish, veggie dishes. Really the only thing that is hard to make> > without sodium is things that need to rise (dough, cakes) and if everything> > else in your diet is so low on salt, that shouldn't put you over the totals.> > > > Clearly this isn't complete dashing because then you have to boost the> > potassium part too but low sodium alone is really not hard unless I've> > missed a trick.> > > > H>

>>

April 21, 2011

But u must read labels. Whole Paycheck stores Have many salty items as they have not gotten the message yet either. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension

I keep seeing this issue come up. There is a solution - shop at a natural/organic market such as Whole Foods (not sure if they are national or not). It might cost a bit more, but you can be assured of meat, fish and poultry free of unnecessary additives.