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Skin issues is such a broad question that it is a waste to Time. Be more specific please. I don't have time for non-specific questions.CE Grim MDOn Feb 11, 2011, at 8:03 PM, Francis Bill SUSPECTED PA wrote:What kind of skin issues. I have problems with dry flaky skin. > > > > > I wanted to ask if anyone has/had any kind of skin issues as a > > > symptom of PA.> > >> > >> > >> >>

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Bumps is a poor term. Are red, white, black yellow. based in a hair follicle?1 mm or 5 inches in size. Please be specific.Better yet a picture is worth a thousand words. CE Grim MDMy skin is extremly dry no matter how hard I try to hydrate and I even get small bumps everywhere. I didn't know if it is related somehow. I guess I am just surprised to learn that alot of things I have had issues with over the past few years are a result of PA. Just thought I'd ask. > > > > > > > I wanted to ask if anyone has/had any kind of skin issues as a > > > > symptom of PA.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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The thirst is part of high aldo and teh peeing of a low K.CE Brim MDExcuse me??!!! What kind of comment is that? I asked if anyone had/has skin issues as a symptom or result of PA. Why would that be wrong to ask? Along with constant thirst and never being able to become hydrated I thought maybe people experienced the same problems I have and if not then I know it is something altogether different. Dr. Grim, I think you are a phony pompaus A#$> > > I wanted to ask if anyone has/had any kind of skin issues as a > > symptom of PA.> >> >> >>

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APIWATWCE Grim MDOn Feb 11, 2011, at 8:18 PM, Francis Bill SUSPECTED PA wrote:I also have some strange bumps. I am 63 but my hands look like an 80 year old. Do you have brain fog? Need to give us more of your systems.> > > > > > > > > I wanted to ask if anyone has/had any kind of skin issues as a > > > > > symptom of PA.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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Please file under skin problems in PA and update if he has surgery and is cured.My husband has issues with flare-ups of very flaky itchy skin just under his eyebrows which gives him a great deal of trouble. He's had this ever since the high BP's started and has been using 1% cortisone cream off and on ever since. It doesn't really help and I tell him all it's doing is thinning out that skin. Interestingly, a flare-up is ALWAYS associated with a stressful event, even a minor short term stress, whether it be a difficult situation at work or a disagreement here at home. I definitely associate it with his PA.> > > > > >> > > > > > > I wanted to ask if anyone has/had any kind of skin issues > > as a> > > > > > > symptom of PA.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> >> >>

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On Feb 12, 2011, at 8:23 AM, Francis Bill SUSPECTED PA wrote:No one knows all that High Aldo or low Renin does. Always say: High salt, Low potassium diet AND high aldo or low renin.No excess salt no aldo effect on BP or K. High salt diet wastes KHigh K diet protects against low blood and body KRecall body K has to go own a lot before blood K CE Grim MD

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WE will be here. Thanks.CE Grim MDMr. Grim I didn't ask you to answer my question so you can stop making comments to me. I am asking others. You don't have to have time to answer me . In fact I think I will leave this message board because you always have some nasty thing to say to me. > > > >> > > > > I wanted to ask if anyone has/had any kind of skin issues as a> > > > > symptom of PA.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> >> >>

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Several have gotten their lives back by hiring me. But many just by our group here. CE Grim MDI understand. I just have a hard time with "Dr. Grim" being so rude. It's too bad. This is all new to me and at first I thought it would be helpful to seek answers to fellow PA patients but I have to say I don't need the rudeness. I am not speaking of anyone else except this "Dr. Grim". I think telling people for $500 he will help is rude in itself. > > >> > > I wanted to ask if anyone has/had any kind of skin issues as a symptom of PA.> > >> > > > No idea if it is related to PA cause I do not see any relation but still, I have very very dry skin, and very dry eyes... tc> >>

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Actually the consultation is for good for one year unlimited access to my expertise for you and your health care team.CE Grim MD@Lettie Maddan I have seen hundreds of posts from Dr. Grim in the past month's he has always been very helpful, and not once I have seen him ask for money, he has just advices people to get one on one consultation and that he would help for months, for only 500$, what physician does that ? And I think that's only a a figure to charge something, and he is normally referring people to other physicians, and he HELPS without charging a cent here.he got defensive about the skin condition, and I understand it, we can get a LOT of spam in this group, and we have gotten it before, so one can be jumpy, even I have been extremely annoyed at people promoting stuff, that has no relation to PA or anythingThis group belongs to Dr Grim, and if he wanted he could do with it whatever he pleases, this group is not a right, it's a privilege.And now for the rude part, if you don't like it just leave the group, it's so easy to quit and stop listening to us and "Dr. Grimm" (as you call him ) R.S.> > > >> > > > I wanted to ask if anyone has/had any kind of skin issues as a symptom of PA.> > > >> > > > > > No idea if it is related to PA cause I do not see any relation but still, I have very very dry skin, and very dry eyes... tc> > >> >>

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As far as we can tell from rats, mice and humans unless one is eating a high salt and a low K diet one will not be ill with excess aldo and/or low renin.But the depression issue has been poorly studied. I used to work with Dr P. Henry who could tell when a mouse was depressed but I never tried.CE Grim MDOn Feb 12, 2011, at 10:47 AM, Francis Bill SUSPECTED PA wrote:So is it the High salt, Low potassium diet AND high aldo or low renin that may cause drepression or maybe just high aldo or low renin?> > > No one knows all that High Aldo or low Renin does.> > Always say: High salt, Low potassium diet AND high aldo or low renin.> > No excess salt no aldo effect on BP or K.> > High salt diet wastes K> > High K diet protects against low blood and body K> > Recall body K has to go own a lot before blood K> > CE Grim MD>

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Based on my personal studies and experience with depression in mice, a depressed mouse more or less looks like this:

But the depression issue has been poorly studied.

I used to work with Dr P. Henry who could tell when a mouse was depressed but I never tried.

CE Grim MD

On Feb 12, 2011, at 10:47 AM, Francis Bill SUSPECTED PA wrote:

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and not well studied. Feeling very bad from low K would make many "depressed" I think. Does low K itself bring on depression when there are no other Sx is not well studied.Again here we have a great chance to a make real contributions to the PA lit if we can only get a good data base that functions well. CE Grim MDOn Feb 12, 2011, at 11:23 AM, Francis Bill SUSPECTED PA wrote:It would depend on what being ill means. It seems that the depression issue is something that has only been studyed in the past 5 years or so. > > >> > > > No one knows all that High Aldo or low Renin does.> > >> > > Always say: High salt, Low potassium diet AND high aldo or low > > renin.> > >> > > No excess salt no aldo effect on BP or K.> > >> > > High salt diet wastes K> > >> > > High K diet protects against low blood and body K> > >> > > Recall body K has to go own a lot before blood K> > >> > > CE Grim MD> > >> >> >> >>

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I would be depressed to if I only had 3 fingers. I would have to say Gi'me 4! or lets do a high 4. CE Grim MDBased on my personal studies and experience with depression in mice, a depressed mouse more or less looks like this:But the depression issue has been poorly studied. I used to work with Dr P. Henry who could tell when a mouse was depressed but I never tried.CE Grim MDOn Feb 12, 2011, at 10:47 AM, Francis Bill SUSPECTED PA wrote:

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The tow "m" Grimms are known for telling Fairy tales. I have been accused of this but try not to.CE Grim MDosalva,I called him "Dr. Grimm" because I thought that is what his name is. I know this is his group and I can leave if I want to but thank u for reminding me. I came here because I was recently diagnosed with PA NOT because I have something to sell. > > > > >> > > > > I wanted to ask if anyone has/had any kind of skin issues as a symptom of PA.> > > > >> > > > > > > > No idea if it is related to PA cause I do not see any relation but still, I have very very dry skin, and very dry eyes... tc> > > >> > >> >>

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My example. When I was hospitalized and felt like I was dying, I had low sodium in my body, normal aldo, normal potassium and just low renin. I also would like to know what is the mechanism that causes such extremely bad feeling right after eating something not within DASH? For me, it's almost all meat and fat including chicken and turkey. Somebody here mentioned pizza. I wonder if it's possible that it's hormones in meat????

Natalia Kamneva 66 Russian F

with adrenal adenoma, HTN and low renin , low aldosteron and high cortisol,

K=3.4.

To: hyperaldosteronism Sent: Sat, February 12, 2011 11:47:53 AMSubject: Re: Skin issues?

So is it the High salt, Low potassium diet AND high aldo or low renin that may cause drepression or maybe just high aldo or low renin?

>

> > No one knows all that High Aldo or low Renin does.

>

> Always say: High salt, Low potassium diet AND high aldo or low renin.

>

> No excess salt no aldo effect on BP or K.

>

> High salt diet wastes K

>

> High K diet protects against low blood and body K

>

> Recall body K has to go own a lot before blood K

>

> CE Grim MD

>

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pizza is a salt bomb usually.Again if renin is low aldo should be low NOT normal. I was recalling that you had low renin AND low aldo a very rare combo.CE Grim MDMy example. When I was hospitalized and felt like I was dying, I had low sodium in my body, normal aldo, normal potassium and just low renin. I also would like to know what is the mechanism that causes such extremely bad feeling right after eating something not within DASH? For me, it's almost all meat and fat including chicken and turkey. Somebody here mentioned pizza. I wonder if it's possible that it's hormones in meat???? Natalia Kamneva 66 Russian F with adrenal adenoma, HTN and low renin , low aldosteron and high cortisol, K=3.4. To: hyperaldosteronism Sent: Sat, February 12, 2011 11:47:53 AMSubject: Re: Skin issues? So is it the High salt, Low potassium diet AND high aldo or low renin that may cause drepression or maybe just high aldo or low renin?> > > No one knows all that High Aldo or low Renin does.> > Always say: High salt, Low potassium diet AND high aldo or low renin.> > No excess salt no aldo effect on BP or K.> > High salt diet wastes K> > High K diet protects against low blood and body K> > Recall body K has to go own a lot before blood K> > CE Grim MD>

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Until

I got my Lyme disease under control, even a small amount of sodium sent me into

what I called the " brittles " (extreme anxiety, shakes, sweats).  Extreme over-consumption of sodium gave me

paralysis a couple of times.  I now eat

reasonable sodium.  Tonight a put a

little on my baked potato and felt nothing from it.

Most

supermarket meat is infused with sodium. 

You have to look for meats that are not. 

About 60 mg sodium per serving is naturally occurring.  Anything above that is from infusion.  We've found virtually no pork that is not

infused.

What

causes low blood sodium?

Val

From: hyperaldosteronism

[mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Natalia Kamneva

My

example. When I was hospitalized and felt like I was dying, I had low sodium in

my body, normal aldo, normal potassium and just low renin.

I also would like to know what is the mechanism that causes such extremely bad

feeling right after eating something not within DASH? For me, it's almost all

meat and fat including chicken and turkey. Somebody here mentioned pizza. I

wonder if it's possible that it's hormones in meat????

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most common cause is diuretic Rx in the elderly. CE Grim MDUntil I got my Lyme disease under control, even a small amount of sodium sent me into what I called the "brittles" (extreme anxiety, shakes, sweats). Extreme over-consumption of sodium gave me paralysis a couple of times. I now eat reasonable sodium. Tonight a put a little on my baked potato and felt nothing from it. Most supermarket meat is infused with sodium. You have to look for meats that are not. About 60 mg sodium per serving is naturally occurring. Anything above that is from infusion. We've found virtually no pork that is not infused. What causes low blood sodium? Val From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Natalia Kamneva My example. When I was hospitalized and felt like I was dying, I had low sodium in my body, normal aldo, normal potassium and just low renin. I also would like to know what is the mechanism that causes such extremely bad feeling right after eating something not within DASH? For me, it's almost all meat and fat including chicken and turkey. Somebody here mentioned pizza. I wonder if it's possible that it's hormones in meat????

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Have they consideredwa pheochromocytoma. . . .look it up if u are not

famaliar with it

>Until I got my Lyme disease under control, even a small amount of sodium sent

me into what I called the " brittles " (extreme anxiety, shakes, sweats). Extreme

over-consumption of sodium gave me paralysis a couple of times. I now eat

reasonable sodium. Tonight a put a little on my baked potato and felt nothing

from it.

>

>Most supermarket meat is infused with sodium. You have to look for meats that

are not. About 60 mg sodium per serving is naturally occurring. Anything above

that is from infusion. We've found virtually no pork that is not infused.

>

>What causes low blood sodium?

>

>Val

>

>From: hyperaldosteronism

[mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Natalia Kamneva

>

>My example. When I was hospitalized and felt like I was dying, I had low sodium

in my body, normal aldo, normal potassium and just low renin.

>

>I also would like to know what is the mechanism that causes such extremely bad

feeling right after eating something not within DASH? For me, it's almost all

meat and fat including chicken and turkey. Somebody here mentioned pizza. I

wonder if it's possible that it's hormones in meat????

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Tested

several times - no pheo. Since

being on Lyme treatment, I am on only about 38 mg spiro compared to 150 before.

BP is averaging 120/70. I expect at some point, I may not need

any spiro.

Val

From: hyperaldosteronism

[mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Bingham

Have they consideredwa pheochromocytoma. . . .look it up if

u are not famaliar with it

>Until I got my Lyme disease under control, even a small amount of sodium

sent me into what I called the " brittles " (extreme anxiety, shakes,

sweats). Extreme over-consumption of sodium gave me paralysis a couple of times.

I now eat reasonable sodium. Tonight a put a little on my baked potato and felt

nothing from it.

>

>Most supermarket meat is infused with sodium. You have to look for meats

that are not. About 60 mg sodium per serving is naturally occurring. Anything

above that is from infusion. We've found virtually no pork that is not infused.

>

>What causes low blood sodium?

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Val has renin and aldo been retested after Lyme Rx. Would be most interesting.CE Grim MDTested several times - no pheo. Since being on Lyme treatment, I am on only about 38 mg spiro compared to 150 before. BP is averaging 120/70. I expect at some point, I may not need any spiro. Val From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of BinghamHave they consideredwa pheochromocytoma. . . .look it up if u are not famaliar with it>Until I got my Lyme disease under control, even a small amount of sodium sent me into what I called the "brittles" (extreme anxiety, shakes, sweats). Extreme over-consumption of sodium gave me paralysis a couple of times. I now eat reasonable sodium. Tonight a put a little on my baked potato and felt nothing from it.> >Most supermarket meat is infused with sodium. You have to look for meats that are not. About 60 mg sodium per serving is naturally occurring. Anything above that is from infusion. We've found virtually no pork that is not infused.> >What causes low blood sodium?

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No testing. I'm

on Inspra so the tests wouldn't be valid anyway, would they? I'm quite convinced that Lyme set off a

string of endocrine problems for me - thyroid; then parathyroid, high calcium,

osteoporosis; and now, PA. I have a

friend with Lyme. Periodically, she

develops hypErthyroidism and then after a while, it settles down.

Val

From: hyperaldosteronism

[mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Clarence Grim

Val has renin and aldo been retested after Lyme Rx. Would be

most interesting.

CE

Grim MD

On

Feb 12, 2011, at 9:31 PM, Valarie wrote:

Tested several times - no

pheo. Since being on Lyme

treatment, I am on only about 38 mg spiro compared to 150 before. BP is averaging 120/70. I expect at some point, I may

not need any spiro.

From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Bingham

Have they considered

pheochromocytoma. . . .look it up if u are not famaliar with it

>Until I got my Lyme disease under control, even a small amount of sodium

sent me into what I called the " brittles " (extreme anxiety, shakes,

sweats). Extreme over-consumption of sodium gave me paralysis a couple of

times. I now eat reasonable sodium. Tonight put a little on my baked potato and felt

nothing from it.

>

>Most supermarket meat is infused with sodium. You have to look for meats

that are not. About 60 mg sodium per serving is naturally occurring. Anything

above that is from infusion. We've found virtually no pork that is not infused.

>

>What causes low blood sodium?

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Yes, I have. That's why nobody diagnosed me with PA. But I started to take eplrenone 50 mg a day and my BP is much better and consistent but it's still not 130/80. It's in average 140/80. And I am diabetic. To: hyperaldosteronism Cc: Clarence Grim Sent: Sat, February 12, 2011 8:55:11 PMSubject: Re: Re: Skin issues?

pizza is a salt bomb usually.Again if renin is low aldo should be low NOT normal. I was recalling that you had low renin AND low aldo a very rare combo.CE Grim MDMy example. When I

was hospitalized and felt like I was dying, I had low sodium in my body, normal aldo, normal potassium and just low renin. I also would like to know what is the mechanism that causes such extremely bad feeling right after eating something not within DASH? For me, it's almost all meat and fat including chicken and turkey. Somebody here mentioned pizza. I wonder if it's possible that it's hormones in meat???? Natalia Kamneva 66 Russian F with adrenal adenoma, HTN and low renin , low aldosteron and high cortisol, K=3.4. To: hyperaldosteronism Sent: Sat, February 12, 2011 11:47:53 AMSubject: Re: Skin issues? So is it the High salt, Low potassium diet AND high aldo or low renin that may cause drepression or maybe just high aldo or low renin?> > > No one knows all that High Aldo or low Renin does.> > Always say: High salt, Low potassium diet AND high aldo or low renin.> > No excess salt no aldo effect on BP or K.> > High salt diet wastes K> > High K diet protects against low blood and body K> > Recall body K has to go own a lot before blood K> > CE Grim MD>

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Maybe, that's the reason! Thank you, Val. If I soak the meat in a cold water for while, does it help? I have different symptoms that is difficult to describe. It's difficulty to breath, very unpleasant feeling in my stomach, fainting, bloating in my hands, feet and stomach. Something like that. And I also had couple of cases of paralysis of my upper body, neck and arms. I don't know for sure what caused my low blood sodium but probably diarrhea and diuretics, because they removed my diuretic and even after 3 months they don't give it to me back. Probably, dehydration???? While now I am strictly on DASH, I even don't put salt to any food, I feel much better. Many thanks,NataliaTo: hyperaldosteronism Sent: Sat, February 12, 2011 9:02:22 PMSubject: RE: Re: Skin issues?

Until

I got my Lyme disease under control, even a small amount of sodium sent me into

what I called the "brittles" (extreme anxiety, shakes, sweats). Extreme over-consumption of sodium gave me

paralysis a couple of times. I now eat

reasonable sodium. Tonight a put a

little on my baked potato and felt nothing from it. Most

supermarket meat is infused with sodium.

You have to look for meats that are not.

About 60 mg sodium per serving is naturally occurring. Anything above that is from infusion. We've found virtually no pork that is not

infused. What

causes low blood sodium?

Val

From: hyperaldosteronism

[mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Natalia Kamneva

My

example. When I was hospitalized and felt like I was dying, I had low sodium in

my body, normal aldo, normal potassium and just low renin.

I also would like to know what is the mechanism that causes such extremely bad

feeling right after eating something not within DASH? For me, it's almost all

meat and fat including chicken and turkey. Somebody here mentioned pizza. I

wonder if it's possible that it's hormones in meat????

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Stop

buying infused meat.  I don't think

soaking meat in water for a while would do much of anything.  Swelling hands, difficulty breathing could be

ingesting too much salt.

Val

From: hyperaldosteronism

[mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Natalia Kamneva

Maybe,

that's the reason! Thank you, Val. If I soak the meat in a cold water for

while, does it help? I have different symptoms that is difficult to describe.

It's difficulty to breath, very unpleasant feeling in my stomach, fainting,

bloating in my hands, feet and stomach. Something like that. And I also had

couple of cases of paralysis of my upper body, neck and arms.

I don't know for sure what caused my low blood sodium but probably diarrhea and

diuretics, because they removed my diuretic and even after 3 months they don't

give it to me back. Probably, dehydration????

While now I am strictly on DASH, I even don't put salt to any food, I feel much

better.

Most supermarket meat is

infused with sodium. You have to look for meats that are not. About

60 mg sodium per serving is naturally occurring. Anything above that is

from infusion. We've found virtually no pork that is not infused.

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