Re: Cardio Training Questions - water running

[Guest guest]

Greeting Supertrainers

Lots of talk has centered upon cardio training & energy expenditure.

I was hoping some trainers out there might have some information or

studies on the effect water running has with regards to energy

expenditure?

I have seen some people at the deep end of the pool running virtually

on the spot, some wear a foam belt to stay bouyant. They mimic the

running action.

I'd imagine their energy expenditure would be high, given the use of

arms and legs.

Does anyone use this method for a good cardio workout? weight loss?

or as a form of rehab?

Love to hear your thoughts!

Matt Fernandez

Sydney Australia

[Guest guest]

Hi Jerry

The following web page might be of interest, titled:

Biomechanical Comparison of Deep Water and Treadmill Running

http://www.unlv.edu/faculty/jmercer/dwr/dwr.html

Any comments?

Matt Fernandez

Sydney Australia

Jerry wrote:

> hi Matt, We chatted about water training at some length(though not

water

> running?), archives name? My takeaway was that in lieu of anything

else--or

> in extensively deconditioned including immediately post surgery

rehab, and

> impact restricted subjects, it has its place--other than that

almost any

> worthwhile exercise outcome can be realized to a greater degree,

> elsewhere--check archives --some great and referenced discussions--

ask Mel if

> you cant find!!

>

> Should you find anything dissonant with my " opinion " --or of course

any new

> slant, please post!

>

> Jerry Telle

> lakewood CO USA

>

>

> * Kindly sign all letters with full name and city if you

> wish them to be published

[Guest guest]

Matt Fernandezwrites:

<< The following web page might be of interest, titled:

Biomechanical Comparison of Deep Water and Treadmill Running

http://www.unlv.edu/faculty/jmercer/dwr/dwr.html

Any comments?>>

Greetings again,

I hate to beg off like this but I'm already a year behind in my reading,

could you give us a quick synopsis of the intensities of both comparison

groups. I dont think much of " active " ?(motor driven) treadmills to start with

unless they are " passive " ? (human driven) and adjustably resistive? I'm

therfore pessimisstic about the intensity levels of each group(s)!--how they

were quantified etc

Thanks,k.

Jerry Telle

Lakewood CO USA

[Guest guest]

Hi Matt-

Deep Water Running as well as shallow water or under-water treadmill running

has produced some research. Unfortunately, references are not at my

disposal--they are in NYC and I am in the BVI.

As for rehab and conditioning, I use both methods.

I trained a marathoner in deep water to prevent stress fractures she had

previously encountered. You can mimick almost every type of training from

fartlek to intervals, difficulty with hills. We ran in the pool the time

factor that she would have run outside. True, she needed to run outside for

more accurate training relative to her sport, but she found less pain and

wear and tear using the pool for training. (we tapered the time in the

water as the event came closer).

She also found her recovery to be significantly faster when training

post-marathon in the pool. (Which is interesting as there was a study

several years ago--I don't have reference--in Brazil that showed with soccer

players that working out in the pool post-practice or game reduced blood

lactate levels by 50%--now, I am quoting from memory, so please forgive if

not a 100% correct).

Additionally, I teach a deep water running class at a facility in NYC, where

we do in an aerobic setting for 55minutes. The participants love it because

there is less wear and tear on the joints. They also say it is hard!

As for rehab, there are many wonderful uses of aquatics! I have worked with

several athletes who have begun deep water running post-operatively or

post-injury and have had wonderful success. (Also, have worked with several

baseball players on agility and batspeed as well as a basketball team in

preseason conditioning phase!)

To learn more about aquatic exercise or aquatic therapy you may wish to

contact the Aquatic Exercise Association, www.aeawave.net, or the Aquatic

Therapy and Rehabilitation Institute, www.atri.org.

Personally, I do deep water running one or two days a week. When I am not

doing my morning run. After 9/11, I run every day to keep the demons out of

my head--this is before my normal workout--the am run is for my mental

health, the rest for my physical health.

Any other questions, please feel free to contact me!

Meg Stolt

NEW YORK, NY

although Tortola, BVI right now! :>