Guest guest Posted December 12, 2010 Report Share Posted December 12, 2010 I think I prefer a tableI will work on one. I don't think in logs very well. AVS Data Comparison I am not sure about times in the following data but if we can collect AVS data then all kinds of comparison charts can be created and data can be analyzed and suspicious cases distinguished much more easily. Here is a sample of data I could find in this Group. Max. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2010 Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 >150 AVS Test Results Lateralization ratio = a/c divided by a/c (left/right) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2010 Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 Do we have access to the raw numbers for these 150 tests? Or any 150 tests? I think it would be highly instructive for some of our endocrinologists to see the actual aldo and cortisol value tables for enough tests to get a feeling for what they're supposed to look like in various circumstances and what amount of variation they can expect to see. Myself, I'm practically salivating. >150 AVS Test Results Lateralization ratio = a/c divided by a/c (left/right) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2010 Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 P.S. The fact that my hospital insists there is nothing remarkable or incorrect about my report tells me they must have produced quite a few like it. I have told them in the strongest terms I can muster about the authorities who have given my report a thumbs-down and have referred them to various formal criteria that also give my report a thumbs-down. As far as I can tell, they continue to grin smugly and dumbly at the prattling of laymen and keep right on doing what they're doing. Here's a recap: Do we have access to the raw numbers for these 150 tests? Or any 150 tests? I think it would be highly instructive for some of our endocrinologists to see the actual aldo and cortisol value tables for enough tests to get a feeling for what they're supposed to look like in various circumstances and what amount of variation they can expect to see. Myself, I'm practically salivating. >150 AVS Test Results Lateralization ratio = a/c divided by a/c (left/right) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2010 Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 We also need who is cured and who is not.CE Grim MDHi Alden, Your AVS results can be seen as thick blue line. As you can see there are some PA patients with AVS results similar and even close to you and even with a/c ratios higher at IVC than right adr. Comparing L.ad category with BIH your left a/c is most likely correct. Then we can consider IVC and right a/c. If your IVC a/c is higher than 2.3 let's say 10, then still L.ade diag seems correct. However, if your right a/c is higher then look at BIH graphs, you might be BIH and need no surgery!But you can see that PA patients with much lower left a/c than you have been diagnosed as L.ade. My conclusion is that based on comparison with AVS results of other PA patients you cannot convince your hospital that they have made a mistake because they have multitude of AVS results with much lower left a/c who have undergone surgery for L.adenoma. (as far as I can understand). As I gather more AVS results I can refine these data and make more accurate conclusions and even discover AVS suspicious results! Max. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2010 Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 Are these our folks for from a publication?CE Grim MD>150 AVS Test Results Lateralization ratio = a/c divided by a/c (left/right) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2010 Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 Are these our folks for from a publication?CE Grim MD>150 AVS Test Results Lateralization ratio = a/c divided by a/c (left/right) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2010 Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 The best definition of a unilateral problem is that when you take it out everything returns completely to normal.I don't know how many of these we have in our data base. My computer battery will die in a few min and left charger at work.Can do a little on iPhone.CEAVS Data Comparison I am not sure about times in the following data but if we can collect AVS data then all kinds of comparison charts can be created and data can be analyzed and suspicious cases distinguished much more easily. Here is a sample of data I could find in this Group. Max. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2010 Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 The best definition of a unilateral problem is that when you take it out everything returns completely to normal.I don't know how many of these we have in our data base. My computer battery will die in a few min and left charger at work.Can do a little on iPhone.CEAVS Data Comparison I am not sure about times in the following data but if we can collect AVS data then all kinds of comparison charts can be created and data can be analyzed and suspicious cases distinguished much more easily. Here is a sample of data I could find in this Group. Max. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 Same as before but with some numerical data modified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 Same as previous post but with some numerical data modified.Alden AVS data point is marked as red circle.Gillin AVS test samples are drawn at time spans relative to ACTH injection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 Same as previous post but with some numerical data modified.Alden AVS data point is marked as red circle.Gillin AVS test samples are drawn at time spans relative to ACTH injection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 Hi ,i don't understand much the data u sent to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 i haven't seen that kind of graph based from what i received at the Philippine Gov't hospital.>150 AVS Test Results Lateralization ratio = a/c divided by a/c (left/right) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 i undergo two lab. test to determine my aldosterone, ct-scan for any discrepancy and extraction of blood. >150 AVS Test Results Lateralization ratio = a/c divided by a/c (left/right) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 i undergo two lab. test to determine my aldosterone, ct-scan for any discrepancy and extraction of blood. >150 AVS Test Results Lateralization ratio = a/c divided by a/c (left/right) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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