Re: Shoulder Injury Question

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[First question - have you been examined by a neurologist

or neurosurgeon yet, because you don't " mess around " with

anything that may involve nerve injury? Mel Siff]

Thank you all for your patience and time,

Layne Norton >>

C6-7? Nerve impingement, probably disk ?. I had the same thing, no pain--no

tricep strength--had the disk removed and c6-7 fused. No problem. Have the

invasive EMG test!

Jerry Telle

Lakewood CO USA

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Mel Siff wrote:

<First question - have you been examined by a

neurologist or neurosurgeon yet, because you don't " mess around "

with anything that may involve nerve injury? >

No, I have not. I am going back to the orthopedist on

friday and I am going to request that he does an MRI

as my doctor back home told me that this needs to be

done(I'm 1,000 miles away from home at college).

Then, if they find anything wrong he is going to send

me to a neurologist when I go home for christmas

break.

Jerry Telle:

< C6-7? Nerve impingement, probably disk ?. I had the

same thing, no pain--no

tricep strength--had the disk removed and c6-7

fused. No problem. Have the invasive EMG test! >

I was thinking that it was most likely a disc as

well, due to the nature in which I was struck

(directly on top of the head).

Thanks,

Layne Norton

St. Pete Florida USA

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Layne Norton writes:

<< I was thinking that it was most likely a disc as

well, due to the nature in which I was struck

(directly on top of the head).

Telle--

Right, I was hill climbing one day on my dirt bike when i decided to race the

bike to the bottom of this cliff, unfortunately I won and after landing on

the uppermost regions of my skull the front wheel of the bike(fortunately not

the main frame) landed on me also! What a riot! Wheres the video when you

need one?.

Then one day about 3-4? months later I loaded the bench press bar with 135

lbs for a warmup and the bar only went up on my right side. No pain, no

sensation of weakness--just weakness. The neuro who operated on me said the

same thing happened to a Denver quarterback. One day, out of the blue, at

practice he dropped back to throw a deep " fly " pattern and the ball blooped

out about 15 yards--apparently it was easy to see the ball hadnt slipped from

his hand--as the story goes after a few of these some wise guy lineman

commneted " so much for our deep threat " !

I dont know enough to offer criteria for surgery vs rehab. I'd err on the

cautious side though--as impossible as it will be not to get back to heavy

training. Let us know.

Jerry Telle

Lakewood CO USA

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Layne Norton writes:

<< About how long did it take until you were back at full

strength. I was aiming to do some contests this

summer but I don't know if I'll be ready in time

because of this. Fortunately my upper body is a

strong points of mine (if anything this break may give

my legs a much needed chance to catch up).

Layne,

Unfortunately by the time of the neck fusion--my shoulders were pretty 'shot'

also--so the time to get back to presurgery strength must include an apparent

20% previous loss--with that in mind, it was about 3 months to get back to

about 80% of the previous state -- also I had residual neck pain from the motor

cycle accident. The doctor said that the bone graft should be solid enough for

anything other than impact at around 2 months.

Your statement " I was aiming to do some contests this summer " belies your

enthusiasm

--and *may* predict your incomplete recovery! How does that statement go? --

" He who

disregards history's disasters--is doomed to repeat them "

Jerry Telle

Lakewood CO USA

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Get to a doctor, and fast! get an X-ray! I unsuspectantly suffered

this type of injury when I was younger playing football. I thought at

the time I had possible nerve damage since I was curling 70 lbs with my

right arm and grunting 5 lbs with my left!.. I just kept pressing on my

own, it wasn't until I had a routine X-ray done in preparation for

Chiro treatment that I had actually " split my Atlas bone completely in half

(Neck), it fused together over time and I am fully recovered. By the

way, I had the X-ray at 28 years old, The Doc and I figured I injured it

around 18 years old since that was only traumatic event I suffered with

my neck. Back then, it took me three months before both arms, as I

would consider, equal strength returned. Why didn't I further injured it?

because I broke my ankle in the very next play that took me out for the

season, I think this would be considered fate.

Dan Manor

Limoges Ontario, Canada

Layne Norton writes:

<< I was thinking that it was most likely a disc as

well, due to the nature in which I was struck

(directly on top of the head).

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Dan Manor wrote:

> Get to a doctor, and fast! get an X-ray! I unsuspectantly suffered

> this type of injury when I was younger playing football. I thought at

> the time I had possible nerve damage since I was curling 70 lbs with my

> right arm and grunting 5 lbs with my left!.. I just kept pressing on my

> own, it wasn't until I had a routine X-ray done in preparation for

> Chiro treatment that I had actually " split my Atlas bone completely in half

> (Neck), it fused together over time and I am fully recovered........

I have already had an X-ray and it came back negative.

Layne Norton

St. Pete Fl USA

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Layne Norton writes:

<< Please forgive me for being so inquisitive, but I

didn't quite understand your last statement. Are you

saying you never returned to full strength?

Sorry Layne, what I was trying to say is --becuase of a confounding number of

variables I can't offer much direction. From what I remember full (non

contact) activities could resume at 2 months? The hip bone plug removal site

was the most sore by far!--but probably no worse than a mild hip pointer.

I am strongly inclined to believe there were no strength/hypertrophy loss

residuals from the entire ordeal! Except of course the disappointment of not

training!

Jerry Telle

Lakewood CO USA

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