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Hi Alison

Sorry to hear about your difficulties.

You should be able to find info on costs of any school in the

school's prospectus. I found cost of Chrysalis school in a pdf copy

of their prospectus on the internet last night. Failing that, phone

the schools and ask them - there is no reason for them not to give

you the information.

Cost of an escort - ring the relevant department in the LEA and ask

them. If they wont give you the info, use the Freedom of

Information Act (they will give it you then - they cant justify not

doing).

Taxi costs - when I asked the LEA said they couldnt tell me because

it would be prejudicial to the tendering process. You could ask

which taxi firm they use, and then, as you suggest, ring that taxi

firm. If they wont tell you which taxi firm, then ring the school

that you want the taxi to go to and ask them which taxi firm the LEA

uses, and then ring the taxi firm. FOI Act does not work in this

instance if they are bleating on about tendering processes.

Good luck

Zoe x

>

> Our LEA are behaving badly and trying to pull ABA funding without

> review, without any legal basis etc. just before the summer

holidays

> too...

> Have managed to persuade them to have a meeting prior to any

decisions

> being taken (eg before we go nuclear because I have had enough.)

> I am trying to find the following info - does anyone have it from

> Tribunal or pre Tribunal?

>

> 1.cost of mount School

> 2.cost of Jigsaw school in Surrey

> 3.how to find out costs of an escort daily to and from school

> 4.taxi costs I guess I just call the local cab company unless

someone

> has a better idea

>

> I want to show them that they are getting a good deal given the

> complexities of Orlando's difficulties.

> If anyone has any tips, I would be so grateful. Bad news to have a

lost

> a week of preparation with flu last week.

>

> Thanks, Alison

>

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Phone IPSEA Advice line: 0800 0184016. Their advice line opens at 1pm

today (I just phoned them).

Margaret

>

> Our LEA are behaving badly and trying to pull ABA funding without

> review, without any legal basis etc. just before the summer holidays

> too...

> Have managed to persuade them to have a meeting prior to any

decisions

> being taken (eg before we go nuclear because I have had enough.)

> I am trying to find the following info - does anyone have it from

> Tribunal or pre Tribunal?

>

> 1.cost of mount School

> 2.cost of Jigsaw school in Surrey

> 3.how to find out costs of an escort daily to and from school

> 4.taxi costs I guess I just call the local cab company unless

someone

> has a better idea

>

> I want to show them that they are getting a good deal given the

> complexities of Orlando's difficulties.

> If anyone has any tips, I would be so grateful. Bad news to have a

lost

> a week of preparation with flu last week.

>

> Thanks, Alison

>

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Alison

Is ABA statemented provision? What does it say in your statement?

If it is Statemented you need a solicitor to issue proceedings for

Judicial Review of the decision. This can be legal aid funded in name

of the child. Threat of JR usually sorts them out and makes them back

down. I had to do this when I was running an ABA programme and

Camden just pulled the plug on funds. Unlawfully. They only backed

down a couple of days before the hearing though, but then signed a

consent order, legally binding.

Celia

>

> Our LEA are behaving badly and trying to pull ABA funding without

> review, without any legal basis etc. just before the summer holidays

> too...

> Have managed to persuade them to have a meeting prior to any

decisions

> being taken (eg before we go nuclear because I have had enough.)

> I am trying to find the following info - does anyone have it from

> Tribunal or pre Tribunal?

>

> 1.cost of mount School

> 2.cost of Jigsaw school in Surrey

> 3.how to find out costs of an escort daily to and from school

> 4.taxi costs I guess I just call the local cab company unless

someone

> has a better idea

>

> I want to show them that they are getting a good deal given the

> complexities of Orlando's difficulties.

> If anyone has any tips, I would be so grateful. Bad news to have a

lost

> a week of preparation with flu last week.

>

> Thanks, Alison

>

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Celia,

This is interesting. A message on ABA UK yesterday said that in the

event of the LEA issuing a new Statement which withdrew ABA the child

was not entitled to continuation of the provision that formed part of

the old statement - the newly finalised statement is the one that is

binding on the LEA. (So no remedy while the Tribunal Appeal is still

going on?) I am really worried about this happening to us!

Margaret

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From:

Autism-Biomedical-Europe

[mailto:Autism-Biomedical-Europe ] On Behalf Of Alison Pope

Sent: 10 July 2007 11:46

To:

autism-biomedical-europe

Subject:

LEA crisis - help!

Our LEA are behaving badly and trying to pull ABA

funding without review, without any legal basis etc. just before the summer

holidays too………

Have managed to persuade them to have a meeting prior to any

decisions being taken (eg before we go nuclear because I have had enough…)

I am trying to find the following info – does anyone

have it from Tribunal or pre Tribunal?

1.cost of mount School

2.cost of Jigsaw school in Surrey

3.how to find out costs of an escort daily to and from

school

4.taxi costs I guess I just call the local cab company

unless someone has a better idea

I want to show them that they are getting a good deal

given the complexities of Orlando’s difficulties.

If anyone has any tips, I would be so grateful. Bad news to

have a lost a week of preparation with flu last week.

Thanks, Alison

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Not

much help except Jigsaw’s number is 01252 521730.

Try

IPSEA?

SARA

(I hate them soooooooo

much – LEAs that is)

-----Original

Message-----

From:

Autism-Biomedical-Europe

[mailto:Autism-Biomedical-Europe ] On Behalf Of Alison Pope

Sent: 10 July 2007 11:46

To:

autism-biomedical-europe

Subject:

LEA crisis - help!

Our LEA are behaving badly and trying to pull ABA

funding without review, without any legal basis etc. just before the summer

holidays too………

Have managed to persuade them to have a meeting prior to any

decisions being taken (eg before we go nuclear because I have had enough…)

I am trying to find the following info – does anyone

have it from Tribunal or pre Tribunal?

1.cost of mount School

2.cost of Jigsaw school in Surrey

3.how to find out costs of an escort daily to and from

school

4.taxi costs I guess I just call the local cab company

unless someone has a better idea

I want to show them that they are getting a good deal

given the complexities of Orlando’s difficulties.

If anyone has any tips, I would be so grateful. Bad news to

have a lost a week of preparation with flu last week.

Thanks, Alison

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Hi Margaret

I am sure that is not correct. The LEA first has to issue a Draft

proposed statement which of course gives parent right of appeal within

timeframe. If the Parent appeals to Sendist, the LEA must continue the

current Statment pending Appeal. Dave Ruebain of Levines told me at the

time this funding problem happened to me (one of many funding crises

over the 7 yrs we did ABA) that he had never known a LA test the law

out by refusing to continue funding pending the tribunal appeal, and he

thought High Court would not uphold that. IE they could not get away

with it if they tried which was very unlikely. Don't forget they all

bluff until you call it. A Finalised Statement is not legally binding

on the LEA if an appeal is in process. Think about it - if the fight

were about a school, it would mean they LEA could yank a child out of a

school, stop funds to a school, pending the few weeks in the run up to

a hearing. A JR would throw that out! Same thing on ABA funding.

Celia

>

> Celia,

> This is interesting. A message on ABA UK yesterday said that in the

> event of the LEA issuing a new Statement which withdrew ABA the child

> was not entitled to continuation of the provision that formed part of

> the old statement - the newly finalised statement is the one that is

> binding on the LEA. (So no remedy while the Tribunal Appeal is still

> going on?) I am really worried about this happening to us!

> Margaret

>

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Celia

What you say makes perfect sense.......sometimes the rumour mill

goes into overdrive (to the detriment of parents). It certainly had

me worried.

Thank you for clearing that up.

Zoe

> >

> > Celia,

> > This is interesting. A message on ABA UK yesterday said that in

the

> > event of the LEA issuing a new Statement which withdrew ABA the

child

> > was not entitled to continuation of the provision that formed

part of

> > the old statement - the newly finalised statement is the one

that is

> > binding on the LEA. (So no remedy while the Tribunal Appeal is

still

> > going on?) I am really worried about this happening to us!

> > Margaret

> >

>

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