Guest guest Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 Hi I need some advice regarding Nystatin. Our Dan advise us to start on this but after a couple of successful attempts (my son gagged with this most of the time) the reactions showed that he probably does not tolerate Nystatin. Got GP to change and he gave us Fluconazole. Anyone know or used this antifugal. It mentions that it is not suitable for under 6yr but my son just turned 5 on Sunday? I would appreciate you comments. Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 Fluconazole is a vastly different anti-fungal to Nystatin. Nystatin passes through the gut and is not adsorbed by the body. As such, it's toxic effect on the body is minimal and it can be used for long periods of time. On the downside, many yeast are now resistant to it. Fluconazole is also known as Diflucan. It's a systemic antifungal, meaning it's adsorbed into the body and it kills yeast throughout the body. Not 100% sure, but I think it's one of the few that crosses the blood-brain barrier. It can be tough on the liver, so it is recommended that you monitor liver profiles if using this long term. We've used it in short doses on our son ( who was just 3YO at the time). No adverse affects and it certainly killed yeast. Die off can be tough. We found that the yeast came back just as bad when we discontinued with the dose. I think it's relatvely safe, unless you have reason to suspect that your kid has severe liver problems. Sidney Baker has reported on using these azole drugs on thousands of kids with no long term damage ever seen. If yeast is really a problem, then I found Oxypowder was the best thing for dealing with my son's system. Liam > > Hi > > I need some advice regarding Nystatin. Our Dan advise us to start on this but after a couple of successful attempts (my son gagged with this most of the time) the reactions showed that he probably does not tolerate Nystatin. Got GP to change and he gave us Fluconazole. Anyone know or used this antifugal. It mentions that it is not suitable for under 6yr but my son just turned 5 on Sunday? > > I would appreciate you comments. > > Regards > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 This is a link to what fluconazole is: http://www.smart-drugs.com/Inserts/insert-fluconazole.htm fluconazole is the same as diflucan which list mates do use, seems packed with a lot of fillers and preservatives tho is on a maintainance dose of nystatin, when he didn't have capsules I used to put it in jam, it is absolutly revolting, but does the job, it was strong blackcurrent jam. Then have a drink or ice lolly waiting for him straight after. Now I am lucky he takes capsules so i put it in an empty one. calls it the 'horrible powder' Lara > > Hi > > I need some advice regarding Nystatin. Our Dan advise us to start on this but after a couple of successful attempts (my son gagged with this most of the time) the reactions showed that he probably does not tolerate Nystatin. Got GP to change and he gave us Fluconazole. Anyone know or used this antifugal. It mentions that it is not suitable for under 6yr but my son just turned 5 on Sunday? > > I would appreciate you comments. > > Regards > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 I didn't know that Oxypowder works on yeast. Anyone else used this as an anti-yeast treatment? >>Yep we do and chase it with Sacc B Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 Oxypowder seems to be about the only yeast treatment that can tolerate. It definitely kills off yeast for him. Darla In a message dated 23/08/2007 11:47:34 GMT Standard Time, pyn1pyn1yahoo (DOT) co.uk writes: I didn't know that Oxypowder works on yeast. Anyone else used this as an anti-yeast treatment? >>Yep we do and chase it with Sacc B Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 Interesting, how exactly do you do the "chase".... We use oxypowders about 1 hour after charcoal, but would be really interested to hear what others use. >>Sometimes I do Oxypowder and Sacc B toegther but usually about an hour apart, not sure why really. In fact with me Oxypowder by itself is enough to put off a flare up. Oh I miss my beer, but my guts a lot better LOL Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 How much would i need to give a large 4 year old per day to see off a post-op yeast flare off do you think?? thanx sharon x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 --- Wow, I didn't know that Oxypowder works on yeast. Anyone else used this as an anti-yeast treatment? I have just started SCD for Jazzie, and she is improving, yay! When I give her fruit (bananas and apples) her behaviours return so I think its yeast, but she is severly hypoglycaemic so am having trouble reducing honey etc. Have got S Bouldardii which I am slowing introducing, but don't know if I should also try GSE etc. I would be grateful of any ideas. Regards Glynis In Autism-Biomedical-Europe , " oneill_liam " wrote: > > Fluconazole is a vastly different anti-fungal to Nystatin. > Nystatin passes through the gut and is not adsorbed by the body. As > such, it's toxic effect on the body is minimal and it can be used > for long periods of time. On the downside, many yeast are now > resistant to it. > > Fluconazole is also known as Diflucan. It's a systemic antifungal, > meaning it's adsorbed into the body and it kills yeast throughout > the body. Not 100% sure, but I think it's one of the few that > crosses the blood-brain barrier. It can be tough on the liver, so it > is recommended that you monitor liver profiles if using this long > term. > > We've used it in short doses on our son ( who was just 3YO at the > time). No adverse affects and it certainly killed yeast. Die off can > be tough. We found that the yeast came back just as bad when we > discontinued with the dose. > > I think it's relatvely safe, unless you have reason to suspect that > your kid has severe liver problems. Sidney Baker has reported on > using these azole drugs on thousands of kids with no long term > damage ever seen. > > If yeast is really a problem, then I found Oxypowder was the best > thing for dealing with my son's system. > > Liam > > > > > > Hi > > > > I need some advice regarding Nystatin. Our Dan advise us to start > on this but after a couple of successful attempts (my son gagged > with this most of the time) the reactions showed that he probably > does not tolerate Nystatin. Got GP to change and he gave us > Fluconazole. Anyone know or used this antifugal. It mentions that > it is not suitable for under 6yr but my son just turned 5 on Sunday? > > > > I would appreciate you comments. > > > > Regards > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 Thanks Liam, that's really helpful - I'll try a capsule tonight. sharon x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 Interesting, how exactly do you do the "chase".... We use oxypowders about 1 hour after charcoal, but would be really interested to hear what others use. Re: Re: HELP - NYSTATIN PROBLEM In a message dated 23/08/2007 11:47:34 GMT Standard Time, pyn1pyn1yahoo (DOT) co.uk writes: I didn't know that Oxypowder works on yeast. Anyone else used this as an anti-yeast treatment? >>Yep we do and chase it with Sacc B Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 Right, must get in an order for Sacc.B. How do I use it, please. I mean, not just how much but what must I keep it away from, supplement-wise? Margaret PS biocidin (from MandiMart) - should this be given long-term, or should one stop after a bit? Re: Re: HELP - NYSTATIN PROBLEM Oxypowder seems to be about the only yeast treatment that can tolerate. It definitely kills off yeast for him. Darla In a message dated 23/08/2007 11:59:16 GMT Standard Time, Mum231ASDaol writes: In a message dated 23/08/2007 11:47:34 GMT Standard Time, pyn1pyn1yahoo (DOT) co.uk writes: I didn't know that Oxypowder works on yeast. Anyone else used this as an anti-yeast treatment? >>Yep we do and chase it with Sacc B Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 I don't think that Oxypowder kills yeast directly in my sons gut, as it doesn't have any ingredients that should have a toxic effect. But it does seem to stop them from growing out of control by keeping the bowels moving. I have no idea why that is. But as long as the bowels get moving, the problem is under control. If my son gets constipated, you're 100% guaranteed that there will be a follow up yeast infection. Red rash, eczema, anger, frustration, pain, etc. So we give him 0.5 to 1 capsules whenever he doesn't deliver his daily quote of dirty nappies. Best supplement we ever introduced. Worked better than Diflucan for us. The only downside is the huge volumes of dirty nappies that you have to deal with the next day. Still better than facing a child in pain though. Liam > > How much would i need to give a large 4 year old per day to see off a > post-op yeast flare off do you think?? > > thanx > > sharon x > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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