Re: Improvevements - coconut kefir

[Guest guest]

Peta, well done what a great day for you. Keep us posted about any

other improvements.

Lara

>

> Hi we are about 4 weeks into coconut kefir and have just upped the dose

> to 2oz twice daily. Charlie used a knife and fork properly today - no

> encouragement just did it. He ate 2 poached eggs on toast - doesn't

> usually eat eggs and if he does white part only and he polished off the

> lot. Answering questions quick and better and telling us what happened

> in the day. He started talking about odd numbers tonight ( obviously

> doing them at school) so I asked him a few and he was getting them odd

> and even then I asked out of sequence and he still got 90% right - I

> was gobsmacked because I remember NT child finding this difficult. I

> phoned Mum and told her, Charlie was very pleased with himself and

> asked if I was going to tell (his doctor). His eye contact is fab

> and he seems more aware and brighter. I know it's not just the kefir

> but I'm sure it's making a difference.

> Thanks so much to Sandy and Gayle for helping me with this and thanks

> Sandy for the seeds. I did e-mail you Sandy but my yahoo e-mails don't

> always work. I am only doing 2 culturelle per day with the kefir. I

> love this stuff!

> Peta

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Peta,

Wow isn't he doing well :-)! Such lovely news.

Sorry - no not getting your emails. But so happy you like the

kefir! It's great stuff isn't it.

Well done Charlie :-)!

Best wishes,

Sandy

> >

> > Hi we are about 4 weeks into coconut kefir and have just upped

the dose

> > to 2oz twice daily. Charlie used a knife and fork properly today -

no

> > encouragement just did it. He ate 2 poached eggs on toast -

doesn't

> > usually eat eggs and if he does white part only and he polished

off the

> > lot. Answering questions quick and better and telling us what

happened

> > in the day. He started talking about odd numbers tonight (

obviously

> > doing them at school) so I asked him a few and he was getting

them odd

> > and even then I asked out of sequence and he still got 90% right -

I

> > was gobsmacked because I remember NT child finding this

difficult. I

> > phoned Mum and told her, Charlie was very pleased with himself

and

> > asked if I was going to tell (his doctor). His eye contact

is fab

> > and he seems more aware and brighter. I know it's not just the

kefir

> > but I'm sure it's making a difference.

> > Thanks so much to Sandy and Gayle for helping me with this and

thanks

> > Sandy for the seeds. I did e-mail you Sandy but my yahoo e-mails

don't

> > always work. I am only doing 2 culturelle per day with the kefir.

I

> > love this stuff!

> > Peta

> >

>

[Guest guest]

GREAT NEWS Peta.

we too are a little over four weeks, and seeing some gains as well

some nasty detox, symptoms as if the metals are moving a bit or the

yeast is holding on for dear life. I feel like the bacteria

(clostrida) may have lost ground but the candida is a larger invader.

I'm pulling him back a bit (a small shot glass after each meal and

bedtime.) My son Phoenix is 13, so a bit more agressive on these

things that have had a hold for a very long time.

My own personal experience with the kefir is astounding too, but the

difference too may be the strain of the grains that we're using from

Body ecology. I guess a lot has to do with which beneficial bacteria

is being cultured into the coconut water. we've started onto some

fermented veggies. Very slowly....

YES! this route is a diffinite winner!

regards-

GAyle

> >

> > Hi we are about 4 weeks into coconut kefir and have just upped the

dose

> > to 2oz twice daily. Charlie used a knife and fork properly today - no

> > encouragement just did it. He ate 2 poached eggs on toast - doesn't

> > usually eat eggs and if he does white part only and he polished

off the

> > lot. Answering questions quick and better and telling us what

happened

> > in the day. He started talking about odd numbers tonight ( obviously

> > doing them at school) so I asked him a few and he was getting them

odd

> > and even then I asked out of sequence and he still got 90% right - I

> > was gobsmacked because I remember NT child finding this difficult. I

> > phoned Mum and told her, Charlie was very pleased with himself and

> > asked if I was going to tell (his doctor). His eye contact

is fab

> > and he seems more aware and brighter. I know it's not just the kefir

> > but I'm sure it's making a difference.

> > Thanks so much to Sandy and Gayle for helping me with this and thanks

> > Sandy for the seeds. I did e-mail you Sandy but my yahoo e-mails

don't

> > always work. I am only doing 2 culturelle per day with the kefir. I

> > love this stuff!

> > Peta

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi today, after feeling great yesterday, we had stimming for England!

Kefir is really causing a die off. Dr wants us to maintain dose so we

are going to do a 5 day course of diflucan to help with die off. Will

keep you posted - why is there always a pay back to feeling good?!

Peta-

-- In Autism-Biomedical-Europe , " Gayle Gang "

wrote:

>

> GREAT NEWS Peta.

> we too are a little over four weeks, and seeing some gains as well

> some nasty detox, symptoms as if the metals are moving a bit or the

> yeast is holding on for dear life. I feel like the bacteria

> (clostrida) may have lost ground but the candida is a larger

invader.

> I'm pulling him back a bit (a small shot glass after each meal and

> bedtime.) My son Phoenix is 13, so a bit more agressive on these

> things that have had a hold for a very long time.

> My own personal experience with the kefir is astounding too, but the

> difference too may be the strain of the grains that we're using from

> Body ecology. I guess a lot has to do with which beneficial bacteria

> is being cultured into the coconut water. we've started onto some

> fermented veggies. Very slowly....

>

> YES! this route is a diffinite winner!

>

> regards-

> GAyle

>

>

> > >

> > > Hi we are about 4 weeks into coconut kefir and have just upped

the

> dose

> > > to 2oz twice daily. Charlie used a knife and fork properly

today - no

> > > encouragement just did it. He ate 2 poached eggs on toast -

doesn't

> > > usually eat eggs and if he does white part only and he polished

> off the

> > > lot. Answering questions quick and better and telling us what

> happened

> > > in the day. He started talking about odd numbers tonight (

obviously

> > > doing them at school) so I asked him a few and he was getting

them

> odd

> > > and even then I asked out of sequence and he still got 90%

right - I

> > > was gobsmacked because I remember NT child finding this

difficult. I

> > > phoned Mum and told her, Charlie was very pleased with himself

and

> > > asked if I was going to tell (his doctor). His eye contact

> is fab

> > > and he seems more aware and brighter. I know it's not just the

kefir

> > > but I'm sure it's making a difference.

> > > Thanks so much to Sandy and Gayle for helping me with this and

thanks

> > > Sandy for the seeds. I did e-mail you Sandy but my yahoo e-mails

> don't

> > > always work. I am only doing 2 culturelle per day with the

kefir. I

> > > love this stuff!

> > > Peta

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Peta-Always a rollercoaster ride. Interesting though the timing on

your son's die and mine son's...I remember that you started the kefir

just a little after us and now the symptoms of die off appear just

days after ours... maybe something in that.

I've been posting on the yahoo BEDROK (body ecology diet recover our

kids)group. It's a wealth of information there too. Is your son

getting any type of sugar at all. We're trying to stick closely with

the Body Ecology Diet to assist this process. I found my son was doing

a little sneaking in the fridge of some cranberry juice that has

sugar. He didn't get much, but I was off on a training course for

three days with hubby pretending to be me and I bet my son was getting

into juice without notice. That's when the symptoms started.

Have a good look around and see what might be feeding the yeast.

After a week of major die off, my son was finally so exhausted he

caught either a cold, or just the crescendo of die offs with cold

symptoms. He's been sleeping now for a huge amount the last few days,

and is appearing much better finally. Tics are subsiding..we'll see

today one he's moving if that holds true.

you just never know.... and what a fright it can be!!

hang in there,

Gayle

> > > >

> > > > Hi we are about 4 weeks into coconut kefir and have just upped

> the

> > dose

> > > > to 2oz twice daily. Charlie used a knife and fork properly

> today - no

> > > > encouragement just did it. He ate 2 poached eggs on toast -

> doesn't

> > > > usually eat eggs and if he does white part only and he polished

> > off the

> > > > lot. Answering questions quick and better and telling us what

> > happened

> > > > in the day. He started talking about odd numbers tonight (

> obviously

> > > > doing them at school) so I asked him a few and he was getting

> them

> > odd

> > > > and even then I asked out of sequence and he still got 90%

> right - I

> > > > was gobsmacked because I remember NT child finding this

> difficult. I

> > > > phoned Mum and told her, Charlie was very pleased with himself

> and

> > > > asked if I was going to tell (his doctor). His eye contact

> > is fab

> > > > and he seems more aware and brighter. I know it's not just the

> kefir

> > > > but I'm sure it's making a difference.

> > > > Thanks so much to Sandy and Gayle for helping me with this and

> thanks

> > > > Sandy for the seeds. I did e-mail you Sandy but my yahoo e-mails

> > don't

> > > > always work. I am only doing 2 culturelle per day with the

> kefir. I

> > > > love this stuff!

> > > > Peta

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Gayle

Charlie is low sugar but he does get some in fruit. Our dr says that

he would have yeast problems even if he had no sugar.

Has your son been gf/cf for long and have you been treating him a

long time? I know 2 very nice people at the gym I go to whose son is

severely autistic - he is now 14. The husband is off with depression.

I have told the mother quite a bit but because she got chicken pox

while pregnant she thinks theres nothing she can do. Unfortunately

there is everything to do. Fine line between helping someone and

putting them off. Oh and they have seen Gilly Baird who has put her

son on anti physchotics!

Sorry went off on a tangent. Proper stools last 2 days - formed (

very rare here). Will post with any more develpments. My dr has his

son and wife on 2 oz kefir twice daily ( he thinks you don't need

more than that). Son doing well and wife has lost 10 pounds in weight!

Peta

--

- In Autism-Biomedical-Europe , " Gayle

wrote:

>

> Peta-Always a rollercoaster ride. Interesting though the timing on

> your son's die and mine son's...I remember that you started the

kefir

> just a little after us and now the symptoms of die off appear just

> days after ours... maybe something in that.

> I've been posting on the yahoo BEDROK (body ecology diet recover our

> kids)group. It's a wealth of information there too. Is your son

> getting any type of sugar at all. We're trying to stick closely with

> the Body Ecology Diet to assist this process. I found my son was

doing

> a little sneaking in the fridge of some cranberry juice that has

> sugar. He didn't get much, but I was off on a training course for

> three days with hubby pretending to be me and I bet my son was

getting

> into juice without notice. That's when the symptoms started.

>

> Have a good look around and see what might be feeding the yeast.

>

> After a week of major die off, my son was finally so exhausted he

> caught either a cold, or just the crescendo of die offs with cold

> symptoms. He's been sleeping now for a huge amount the last few

days,

> and is appearing much better finally. Tics are subsiding..we'll see

> today one he's moving if that holds true.

>

> you just never know.... and what a fright it can be!!

>

> hang in there,

> Gayle

>

>

>

>

>

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi we are about 4 weeks into coconut kefir and have just

upped

> > the

> > > dose

> > > > > to 2oz twice daily. Charlie used a knife and fork properly

> > today - no

> > > > > encouragement just did it. He ate 2 poached eggs on toast -

> > doesn't

> > > > > usually eat eggs and if he does white part only and he

polished

> > > off the

> > > > > lot. Answering questions quick and better and telling us

what

> > > happened

> > > > > in the day. He started talking about odd numbers tonight (

> > obviously

> > > > > doing them at school) so I asked him a few and he was

getting

> > them

> > > odd

> > > > > and even then I asked out of sequence and he still got 90%

> > right - I

> > > > > was gobsmacked because I remember NT child finding this

> > difficult. I

> > > > > phoned Mum and told her, Charlie was very pleased with

himself

> > and

> > > > > asked if I was going to tell (his doctor). His eye

contact

> > > is fab

> > > > > and he seems more aware and brighter. I know it's not just

the

> > kefir

> > > > > but I'm sure it's making a difference.

> > > > > Thanks so much to Sandy and Gayle for helping me with this

and

> > thanks

> > > > > Sandy for the seeds. I did e-mail you Sandy but my yahoo e-

mails

> > > don't

> > > > > always work. I am only doing 2 culturelle per day with the

> > kefir. I

> > > > > love this stuff!

> > > > > Peta

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Peta,

I'm attempting to keep my son, Phoenix off all types of sugar.

Anything that turns to sugar. I'm following the rules of the Body

Ecology Diet. I feel I need to keep it up for at least three months

and see where he's at. I did a candida clear out with other means some

15 years ago and it took a severe starving out of the overgrowth of

yeast by not feeding it at all. I didn't have the excellent tools that

there are now.It did, however take some time.

I respect your Dr thoughts about the kefir, but supposedly you can up

to as much as you can tolerate. We are up to a shot glass about three

times a day. This week is sooooo much better then last week.

I'm very positive about the effect of the kefir and the body ecology

diet in general. It's making a world of difference for me as well.

Do check out the BEDROK yahoo group for more info if you are interested.

best to you,

gayle

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi we are about 4 weeks into coconut kefir and have just

> upped

> > > the

> > > > dose

> > > > > > to 2oz twice daily. Charlie used a knife and fork properly

> > > today - no

> > > > > > encouragement just did it. He ate 2 poached eggs on toast -

> > > doesn't

> > > > > > usually eat eggs and if he does white part only and he

> polished

> > > > off the

> > > > > > lot. Answering questions quick and better and telling us

> what

> > > > happened

> > > > > > in the day. He started talking about odd numbers tonight (

> > > obviously

> > > > > > doing them at school) so I asked him a few and he was

> getting

> > > them

> > > > odd

> > > > > > and even then I asked out of sequence and he still got 90%

> > > right - I

> > > > > > was gobsmacked because I remember NT child finding this

> > > difficult. I

> > > > > > phoned Mum and told her, Charlie was very pleased with

> himself

> > > and

> > > > > > asked if I was going to tell (his doctor). His eye

> contact

> > > > is fab

> > > > > > and he seems more aware and brighter. I know it's not just

> the

> > > kefir

> > > > > > but I'm sure it's making a difference.

> > > > > > Thanks so much to Sandy and Gayle for helping me with this

> and

> > > thanks

> > > > > > Sandy for the seeds. I did e-mail you Sandy but my yahoo e-

> mails

> > > > don't

> > > > > > always work. I am only doing 2 culturelle per day with the

> > > kefir. I

> > > > > > love this stuff!

> > > > > > Peta

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Gayle I suppose that means no fruit as well. I posted about the

dose of kefir just as a matter of interest. My dr has only been using

it a few weeks longer than us so it's still a learning curve ( isn't

everything!) And of course your son is much bigger than mine.

I'm glad you are seeing good results. I'm sure we are getting more

awareness ie it really bothers him when we tell him off and sulking (

like my NT child does!) We still have lots of controlling issues and

he belts Ross when angry. Charlie is watching me post this and is

annoyed beacuse I wrote Ross. He now wants me to rub his name out!

But he gets over it quickly.

Thanks I'll look at the site.

Good luck!

Peta

-- In Autism-Biomedical-Europe , " Gayle Gang "

wrote:

>

> Peta,

> I'm attempting to keep my son, Phoenix off all types of sugar.

> Anything that turns to sugar. I'm following the rules of the Body

> Ecology Diet. I feel I need to keep it up for at least three months

> and see where he's at. I did a candida clear out with other means

some

> 15 years ago and it took a severe starving out of the overgrowth of

> yeast by not feeding it at all. I didn't have the excellent tools

that

> there are now.It did, however take some time.

> I respect your Dr thoughts about the kefir, but supposedly you can

up

> to as much as you can tolerate. We are up to a shot glass about

three

> times a day. This week is sooooo much better then last week.

> I'm very positive about the effect of the kefir and the body ecology

> diet in general. It's making a world of difference for me as well.

>

> Do check out the BEDROK yahoo group for more info if you are

interested.

>

>

> best to you,

> gayle

>

>

>

>

>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hi we are about 4 weeks into coconut kefir and have

just

> > upped

> > > > the

> > > > > dose

> > > > > > > to 2oz twice daily. Charlie used a knife and fork

properly

> > > > today - no

> > > > > > > encouragement just did it. He ate 2 poached eggs on

toast -

> > > > doesn't

> > > > > > > usually eat eggs and if he does white part only and he

> > polished

> > > > > off the

> > > > > > > lot. Answering questions quick and better and telling

us

> > what

> > > > > happened

> > > > > > > in the day. He started talking about odd numbers

tonight (

> > > > obviously

> > > > > > > doing them at school) so I asked him a few and he was

> > getting

> > > > them

> > > > > odd

> > > > > > > and even then I asked out of sequence and he still got

90%

> > > > right - I

> > > > > > > was gobsmacked because I remember NT child finding this

> > > > difficult. I

> > > > > > > phoned Mum and told her, Charlie was very pleased with

> > himself

> > > > and

> > > > > > > asked if I was going to tell (his doctor). His

eye

> > contact

> > > > > is fab

> > > > > > > and he seems more aware and brighter. I know it's not

just

> > the

> > > > kefir

> > > > > > > but I'm sure it's making a difference.

> > > > > > > Thanks so much to Sandy and Gayle for helping me with

this

> > and

> > > > thanks

> > > > > > > Sandy for the seeds. I did e-mail you Sandy but my

yahoo e-

> > mails

> > > > > don't

> > > > > > > always work. I am only doing 2 culturelle per day with

the

> > > > kefir. I

> > > > > > > love this stuff!

> > > > > > > Peta

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>