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I was running a lot when the first test was done. My doctor did ignore than because of the running. Runners do typically have high aldosterone. However, I took a break from running this yeAr and still testing high.Sent from my iPad

Could her ALDO be high just because she is doing a lot of running?

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> > > >>

> > > >> Hi everyone, just joined today. Thanks to all of you for this

> > > support!

> > > >>

> > > >> I tested high for aldosterone two years ago through a urine test.

> > > My ND at the time was not concerned, he thought it was due to the

> > > fact that I was a runner. I also thought that made since and was

> > > also following a low salt diet. So we ignored it.

> > > >>

> > > >> I am treAting a thyroid issue, thyroid hormone resistance, and

> > > through recent blood work tested high for aldosterone again. This

> > > time I decided not to ignore it!

> > > >>

> > > >> I do not have a high blood pressure. It runs pretty normal to

> > > low. I don't have issues with potassium. This is all Very confusing

> > > as to why I have high aldosterone.

> > > >>

> > > >> I am trying to get into a endocrinologist but will take about

> > > three months. I need some education and advise on where to start.

> > > >>

> > > >> I don't even know if this is primary or secondary.

> > > >>

> > > >> My only real "health" issue, that I know about, has been hair

> > > loss. This was one reason for exploring the thyroid but I am

> > > wondering if it has been the aldosterone all along. Maybe the

> > > aldosterone is what's causing my thyroid issues.

> > > >>

> > > >> Any comments or advice would be greatly appreciated.

> > > >>

> > > >> My labs:

> > > >>

> > > >> 9/26/2008

> > > >> Aldosterone (urine)

> > > >> High 54.3. (normal diet 6-25, low salt 17-44, high salt0-6)

> > > >>

> > > >> Other adrenal hormones were fine at that time. Cortisol was

> > > pretty middle of the road. *Progesterone however was really high

> > > too. I can post if necessary.

> > > >>

> > > >> Rbc potassium 7/14/2010

> > > >> 97. (90-111)

> > > >>

> > > >> Blood aldosterone 7/18/2010

> > > >> 52.0. (1-16)

> > > >>

> > > >> Blood aldosterone/renin 6/30/2010

> > > >> Aldosterone 49. (1-16)

> > > >> Renin. 3.3. (random ambulatory 0.8-2.5, non ambulatory 1.5-5.2)

> > > >> I was sitting, fasting, taking two hours after waking before/

> > > around 8am

> > > >>

> > > >> Aldosterone renin ratio = 15

> > > >>

> > > >> Sodium. 138. (135-145)

> > > >> Potassium. 4.5. (3.5-5.3)

> > > >> Chloride. 106. (98-109)

> > > >> Co2. 23. (22-31)

> > > >> Anion gap. 9. (5-16)

> > > >>

> > > >> Saliva cortisol 5/23/2010

> > > >> 7am. 3.7. (3.7-9.5)

> > > >> 11am. 1.6. (1.2-3.0)

> > > >> 5pm. 1.3. (0.6-1.9)

> > > >> 9pm. 0.5. (0.4-1.0)

> > > >>

> > > >> Rbc magnesium 5/26/2010

> > > >> 4.2. (4.0-6.4)

> > > >>

> > > >> Lot of test!!!!

> > > >>

> > > >> Thanks again for your kind support! Suzanne

> > > >>

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Is it possible that I am salt wasting?Sent from my iPad

I read 3.3 on first message. Was it 33 or 3.3?I do have a renin lab it is on the lower part of the first message.Renin 33. (non ambulatory 0.8-2.5, ambulatory 1.5-5 .2)My ND is trying to lower it with spironolactone, however, I want to explore

this more to know "why" it's high.Sent from my iPad You need a renin level and your ND should be able to lower it. Can also do a 24 hr urine 4 Na K and creat. If you are really in a low na diet that may be controlling the BP. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension Hi everyone, just joined today. Thanks to all of you for this support!I tested high for aldosterone two years ago through a urine test. My ND at the time was not concerned, he thought it was due to the fact that I was a runner. I also thought that made since and was also following a low salt diet. So we ignored it.I am treAting a thyroid issue, thyroid hormone resistance, and through recent blood work tested high for aldosterone again. This time I decided not to ignore it! I do not have a high blood pressure. It runs pretty normal to low. I don't have issues with potassium. This

is all Very confusing as to why I have high aldosterone.I am trying to get into a endocrinologist but will take about three months. I need some education and advise on where to start.I don't even know if this is primary or secondary.My only real "health" issue, that I know about, has been hair loss. This was one reason for exploring the thyroid but I am wondering if it has been the aldosterone all along. Maybe the aldosterone is what's causing my thyroid issues.Any comments or advice would be greatly appreciated.My labs:9/26/2008Aldosterone (urine)High 54.3. (normal diet 6-25, low salt 17-44, high salt0-6)Other adrenal hormones were fine at that time. Cortisol was pretty middle of the road. *Progesterone however was really high too. I can post if necessary.Rbc potassium 7/14/201097. (90-111)Blood aldosterone 7/18/201052.0. (1-16)Blood aldosterone/renin

6/30/2010Aldosterone 49. (1-16)Renin. 3.3. (random ambulatory 0.8-2.5, non ambulatory 1.5-5.2)I was sitting, fasting, taking two hours after waking before/around 8amAldosterone renin ratio = 15Sodium. 138. (135-145)Potassium. 4.5. (3.5-5.3)Chloride. 106. (98-109)Co2. 23. (22-31)Anion gap. 9. (5-16)Saliva cortisol 5/23/20107am. 3.7. (3.7-9.5)11am. 1.6. (1.2-3.0)5pm. 1.3. (0.6-1.9)9pm. 0.5. (0.4-1.0)Rbc magnesium 5/26/20104.2. (4.0-6.4)Lot of test!!!!Thanks again for your kind support! Suzanne

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How much are the thyroid and adrenals connected?I have been treating thyroid hormone resistance, aka high reverse t3. Wondering if the high aldosterone is causing my thyroid issues?Sent from my iPad

I read 3.3 on first message. Was it 33 or 3.3?I do have a renin lab it is on the lower part of the first message.Renin 33. (non ambulatory 0.8-2.5, ambulatory 1.5-5 .2)My ND is trying to lower it with spironolactone, however, I want to explore

this more to know "why" it's high.Sent from my iPad You need a renin level and your ND should be able to lower it. Can also do a 24 hr urine 4 Na K and creat. If you are really in a low na diet that may be controlling the BP. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension Hi everyone, just joined today. Thanks to all of you for this support!I tested high for aldosterone two years ago through a urine test. My ND at the time was not concerned, he thought it was due to the fact that I was a runner. I also thought that made since and was also following a low salt diet. So we ignored it.I am treAting a thyroid issue, thyroid hormone resistance, and through recent blood work tested high for aldosterone again. This time I decided not to ignore it! I do not have a high blood pressure. It runs pretty normal to low. I don't have issues with potassium. This

is all Very confusing as to why I have high aldosterone.I am trying to get into a endocrinologist but will take about three months. I need some education and advise on where to start.I don't even know if this is primary or secondary.My only real "health" issue, that I know about, has been hair loss. This was one reason for exploring the thyroid but I am wondering if it has been the aldosterone all along. Maybe the aldosterone is what's causing my thyroid issues.Any comments or advice would be greatly appreciated.My labs:9/26/2008Aldosterone (urine)High 54.3. (normal diet 6-25, low salt 17-44, high salt0-6)Other adrenal hormones were fine at that time. Cortisol was pretty middle of the road. *Progesterone however was really high too. I can post if necessary.Rbc potassium 7/14/201097. (90-111)Blood aldosterone 7/18/201052.0. (1-16)Blood aldosterone/renin

6/30/2010Aldosterone 49. (1-16)Renin. 3.3. (random ambulatory 0.8-2.5, non ambulatory 1.5-5.2)I was sitting, fasting, taking two hours after waking before/around 8amAldosterone renin ratio = 15Sodium. 138. (135-145)Potassium. 4.5. (3.5-5.3)Chloride. 106. (98-109)Co2. 23. (22-31)Anion gap. 9. (5-16)Saliva cortisol 5/23/20107am. 3.7. (3.7-9.5)11am. 1.6. (1.2-3.0)5pm. 1.3. (0.6-1.9)9pm. 0.5. (0.4-1.0)Rbc magnesium 5/26/20104.2. (4.0-6.4)Lot of test!!!!Thanks again for your kind support! Suzanne

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Not if you are running unless you do not replace the salt. Still need to verify renin numbers. 3.3 or 33?One needs renin and aldo and 24 hr urine to test.Is it possible that I am salt wasting?Sent from my iPad I read 3.3 on first message. Was it 33 or 3.3?I do have a renin lab it is on the lower part of the first message.Renin 33. (non ambulatory 0.8-2.5, ambulatory 1.5-5 .2)My ND is trying to lower it with spironolactone, however, I want to explore this more to know "why" it's high.Sent from my iPad You need a renin level and your ND should be able to lower it. Can also do a 24 hr urine 4 Na K and creat. If you are really in a low na diet that may be controlling the BP. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension Hi everyone, just joined today. Thanks to all of you for this support!I tested high for aldosterone two years ago through a urine test. My ND at the time was not concerned, he thought it was due to the fact that I was a runner. I also thought that made since and was also following a low salt diet. So we ignored it.I am treAting a thyroid issue, thyroid hormone resistance, and through recent blood work tested high for aldosterone again. This time I decided not to ignore it! I do not have a high blood pressure. It runs pretty normal to low. I don't have issues with potassium. This is all Very confusing as to why I have high aldosterone.I am trying to get into a endocrinologist but will take about three months. I need some education and advise on where to start.I don't even know if this is primary or secondary.My only real "health" issue, that I know about, has been hair loss. This was one reason for exploring the thyroid but I am wondering if it has been the aldosterone all along. Maybe the aldosterone is what's causing my thyroid issues.Any comments or advice would be greatly appreciated.My labs:9/26/2008Aldosterone (urine)High 54.3. (normal diet 6-25, low salt 17-44, high salt0-6)Other adrenal hormones were fine at that time. Cortisol was pretty middle of the road. *Progesterone however was really high too. I can post if necessary.Rbc potassium 7/14/201097. (90-111)Blood aldosterone 7/18/201052.0. (1-16)Blood aldosterone/renin 6/30/2010Aldosterone 49. (1-16)Renin. 3.3. (random ambulatory 0.8-2.5, non ambulatory 1.5-5.2)I was sitting, fasting, taking two hours after waking before/around 8amAldosterone renin ratio = 15Sodium. 138. (135-145)Potassium. 4.5. (3.5-5.3)Chloride. 106. (98-109)Co2. 23. (22-31)Anion gap. 9. (5-16)Saliva cortisol 5/23/20107am. 3.7. (3.7-9.5)11am. 1.6. (1.2-3.0)5pm. 1.3. (0.6-1.9)9pm. 0.5. (0.4-1.0)Rbc magnesium 5/26/20104.2. (4.0-6.4)Lot of test!!!!Thanks again for your kind support! Suzanne

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I was not vomiting or taking diuretics when these test were done.On my first urine test I was probably on a low salt diet and running (sweating)five times a week when I tested high for aldosterone the first time.what was the renin and urine Na at that time?On my latest two blood test, that also showed high aldosterone, I was using sea salt in my diet and not really(not sweating) running. I was told to use the following guidelines before the draw:Sea salt is pure salt. How often did you eat out the days before.How much weight do you lose when you run?*salt fast for 24hrs before test*be up and moving around for two hours before draw*draw blood no later than 8am while sitting upI do take a few over the counter supplements like vitamins, ectnever say etc for over the counter. There is NO regulation of OTC or supplements and they can have things in them like mercury or licorice or diuretics that can affect renin, aldo K etc.I recommend stopping all supplements until the problem is solved. CE Grim MDSent from my iPadSo I'm concerned why my renin and aldosterone would be high. You said it could be caused by a lot of things. That makes me nervous. Are those things "curable"? Problem is renin is not low but aldo high as I recall. If you were eating a low sodium diet at the time or vomiting or sweating or taking diuretics this would give you this. If no then your renin and aldo are both high and could be due to lots of other things. Do you take any other otc stuff?CE Grim MDno i was not on meds when these labs were done. just now started spironolactone,50mg.have not found out what is causing the high aldosterone. is a tumor the most likely cause?On Wed Sep 15th, 2010 8:02 PM EDT Francis Bill SUSPECTED PA wrote:>You can not lower ALDO with meds can only block it. Only way to lower ALDO is to take out the tumor. >>Need to know what meds you are on. Were you taking meds when labs were done. >>>> >> >> Hi everyone, just joined today. Thanks to all of you for this support!>> >> I tested high for aldosterone two years ago through a urine test. My ND at the time was not concerned, he thought it was due to the fact that I was a runner. I also thought that made since and was also following a low salt diet. So we ignored it.>> >> I am treAting a thyroid issue, thyroid hormone resistance, and through recent blood work tested high for aldosterone again. This time I decided not to ignore it! >> >> I do not have a high blood pressure. It runs pretty normal to low. I don't have issues with potassium. This is all Very confusing as to why I have high aldosterone.>> >> I am trying to get into a endocrinologist but will take about three months. I need some education and advise on where to start.>> >> I don't even know if this is primary or secondary.>> >> My only real "health" issue, that I know about, has been hair loss. This was one reason for exploring the thyroid but I am wondering if it has been the aldosterone all along. Maybe the aldosterone is what's causing my thyroid issues.>> >> Any comments or advice would be greatly appreciated.>> >> My labs:>> >> 9/26/2008>> Aldosterone (urine)>> High 54.3. (normal diet 6-25, low salt 17-44, high salt0-6)>> >> Other adrenal hormones were fine at that time. Cortisol was pretty middle of the road. *Progesterone however was really high too. I can post if necessary.>> >> Rbc potassium 7/14/2010>> 97. (90-111)>> >> Blood aldosterone 7/18/2010>> 52.0. (1-16)>> >> Blood aldosterone/renin 6/30/2010>> Aldosterone 49. (1-16)>> Renin. 3.3. (random ambulatory 0.8-2.5, non ambulatory 1.5-5.2)>> I was sitting, fasting, taking two hours after waking before/around 8am>> >> Aldosterone renin ratio = 15>> >> Sodium. 138. (135-145)>> Potassium. 4.5. (3.5-5.3)>> Chloride. 106. (98-109)>> Co2. 23. (22-31)>> Anion gap. 9. (5-16)>> >> Saliva cortisol 5/23/2010>> 7am. 3.7. (3.7-9.5)>> 11am. 1.6. (1.2-3.0)>> 5pm. 1.3. (0.6-1.9)>> 9pm. 0.5. (0.4-1.0)>> >> Rbc magnesium 5/26/2010>> 4.2. (4.0-6.4)>> >> Lot of test!!!!>> >> Thanks again for your kind support! Suzanne>>>>

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24 hours is not long enough if you are trying to get a sodium depleted renin test. Again was it 3.3 or 33.I don't think I was clear enough in my last email.When the renin/aldosterone was ran I was not sweating, vomiting, or taking diuretics. However, I did follow guidelines that stated it was important to salt fast for 24 hours before draw.Sent from my iPad She says she is also a runner. Maybe it would help to know all that eats or drinks when training. > > >>> > >>> > >> Hi everyone, just joined today. Thanks to all of you for this > > support!> > >>> > >> I tested high for aldosterone two years ago through a urine test. > > My ND at the time was not concerned, he thought it was due to the > > fact that I was a runner. I also thought that made since and was > > also following a low salt diet. So we ignored it.> > >>> > >> I am treAting a thyroid issue, thyroid hormone resistance, and > > through recent blood work tested high for aldosterone again. This > > time I decided not to ignore it!> > >>> > >> I do not have a high blood pressure. It runs pretty normal to > > low. I don't have issues with potassium. This is all Very confusing > > as to why I have high aldosterone.> > >>> > >> I am trying to get into a endocrinologist but will take about > > three months. I need some education and advise on where to start.> > >>> > >> I don't even know if this is primary or secondary.> > >>> > >> My only real "health" issue, that I know about, has been hair > > loss. This was one reason for exploring the thyroid but I am > > wondering if it has been the aldosterone all along. Maybe the > > aldosterone is what's causing my thyroid issues.> > >>> > >> Any comments or advice would be greatly appreciated.> > >>> > >> My labs:> > >>> > >> 9/26/2008> > >> Aldosterone (urine)> > >> High 54.3. (normal diet 6-25, low salt 17-44, high salt0-6)> > >>> > >> Other adrenal hormones were fine at that time. Cortisol was > > pretty middle of the road. *Progesterone however was really high > > too. I can post if necessary.> > >>> > >> Rbc potassium 7/14/2010> > >> 97. (90-111)> > >>> > >> Blood aldosterone 7/18/2010> > >> 52.0. (1-16)> > >>> > >> Blood aldosterone/renin 6/30/2010> > >> Aldosterone 49. (1-16)> > >> Renin. 3.3. (random ambulatory 0.8-2.5, non ambulatory 1.5-5.2)> > >> I was sitting, fasting, taking two hours after waking before/ > > around 8am> > >>> > >> Aldosterone renin ratio = 15> > >>> > >> Sodium. 138. (135-145)> > >> Potassium. 4.5. (3.5-5.3)> > >> Chloride. 106. (98-109)> > >> Co2. 23. (22-31)> > >> Anion gap. 9. (5-16)> > >>> > >> Saliva cortisol 5/23/2010> > >> 7am. 3.7. (3.7-9.5)> > >> 11am. 1.6. (1.2-3.0)> > >> 5pm. 1.3. (0.6-1.9)> > >> 9pm. 0.5. (0.4-1.0)> > >>> > >> Rbc magnesium 5/26/2010> > >> 4.2. (4.0-6.4)> > >>> > >> Lot of test!!!!> > >>> > >> Thanks again for your kind support! Suzanne> > >>> > >> > >> >> >> >>

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The renin was 3.3Sent from my iPad

Not if you are running unless you do not replace the salt. Still need to verify renin numbers. 3.3 or 33?One needs renin and aldo and 24 hr urine to test.Is it possible that I am salt wasting?Sent from my

iPad I read 3.3 on first message. Was it 33 or 3.3?I do have a renin lab it is on the lower part of the first message.Renin 33. (non ambulatory 0.8-2.5, ambulatory 1.5-5 .2)My ND is trying to lower it with spironolactone, however, I want to explore this more to know "why" it's high.Sent from my iPad You need a renin level and your ND should be able to lower it. Can also do a 24 hr urine 4 Na K and creat. If you

are really in a low na diet that may be controlling the BP. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension Hi everyone, just joined today. Thanks to all of you for this support!I tested high for aldosterone two years ago through a urine test. My ND at the time was not concerned, he

thought it was due to the fact that I was a runner. I also thought that made since and was also following a low salt diet. So we ignored it.I am treAting a thyroid issue, thyroid hormone resistance, and through recent blood work tested high for aldosterone again. This time I decided not to ignore it! I do not have a high blood pressure. It runs pretty normal to low. I don't have issues with potassium. This is all Very confusing as to why I have high aldosterone.I am trying to get into a endocrinologist but will take about three months. I need some education and advise on where to start.I don't even know if this is primary or secondary.My only real "health" issue, that I know about, has been hair loss. This was one reason for exploring the thyroid but I am wondering if it has been the aldosterone all along. Maybe the aldosterone is what's causing my thyroid

issues.Any comments or advice would be greatly appreciated.My labs:9/26/2008Aldosterone (urine)High 54.3. (normal diet 6-25, low salt 17-44, high salt0-6)Other adrenal hormones were fine at that time. Cortisol was pretty middle of the road. *Progesterone however was really high too. I can post if necessary.Rbc potassium 7/14/201097. (90-111)Blood aldosterone 7/18/201052.0. (1-16)Blood aldosterone/renin 6/30/2010Aldosterone 49. (1-16)Renin. 3.3. (random ambulatory 0.8-2.5, non ambulatory 1.5-5.2)I was sitting, fasting, taking two hours after waking before/around 8amAldosterone renin ratio = 15Sodium. 138. (135-145)Potassium. 4.5. (3.5-5.3)Chloride. 106. (98-109)Co2. 23. (22-31)Anion gap. 9. (5-16)Saliva cortisol 5/23/20107am. 3.7. (3.7-9.5)11am. 1.6. (1.2-3.0)5pm. 1.3. (0.6-1.9)9pm. 0.5. (0.4-1.0)Rbc

magnesium 5/26/20104.2. (4.0-6.4)Lot of test!!!!Thanks again for your kind support! Suzanne

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Got it.Please start all messages with XX yo Woman runner who has had aldo of 74 and renin of 3.3. Normal BP.Why was the aldo done in the first place?CE Grim MD The renin was 3.3Sent from my iPad Not if you are running unless you do not replace the salt. Still need to verify renin numbers. 3.3 or 33?One needs renin and aldo and 24 hr urine to test.Is it possible that I am salt wasting?Sent from my iPad I read 3.3 on first message. Was it 33 or 3.3?I do have a renin lab it is on the lower part of the first message.Renin 33. (non ambulatory 0.8-2.5, ambulatory 1.5-5 .2)My ND is trying to lower it with spironolactone, however, I want to explore this more to know "why" it's high.Sent from my iPad You need a renin level and your ND should be able to lower it. Can also do a 24 hr urine 4 Na K and creat. If you are really in a low na diet that may be controlling the BP. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension Hi everyone, just joined today. Thanks to all of you for this support!I tested high for aldosterone two years ago through a urine test. My ND at the time was not concerned, he thought it was due to the fact that I was a runner. I also thought that made since and was also following a low salt diet. So we ignored it.I am treAting a thyroid issue, thyroid hormone resistance, and through recent blood work tested high for aldosterone again. This time I decided not to ignore it! I do not have a high blood pressure. It runs pretty normal to low. I don't have issues with potassium. This is all Very confusing as to why I have high aldosterone.I am trying to get into a endocrinologist but will take about three months. I need some education and advise on where to start.I don't even know if this is primary or secondary.My only real "health" issue, that I know about, has been hair loss. This was one reason for exploring the thyroid but I am wondering if it has been the aldosterone all along. Maybe the aldosterone is what's causing my thyroid issues.Any comments or advice would be greatly appreciated.My labs:9/26/2008Aldosterone (urine)High 54.3. (normal diet 6-25, low salt 17-44, high salt0-6)Other adrenal hormones were fine at that time. Cortisol was pretty middle of the road. *Progesterone however was really high too. I can post if necessary.Rbc potassium 7/14/201097. (90-111)Blood aldosterone 7/18/201052.0. (1-16)Blood aldosterone/renin 6/30/2010Aldosterone 49. (1-16)Renin. 3.3. (random ambulatory 0.8-2.5, non ambulatory 1.5-5.2)I was sitting, fasting, taking two hours after waking before/around 8amAldosterone renin ratio = 15Sodium. 138. (135-145)Potassium. 4.5. (3.5-5.3)Chloride. 106. (98-109)Co2. 23. (22-31)Anion gap. 9. (5-16)Saliva cortisol 5/23/20107am. 3.7. (3.7-9.5)11am. 1.6. (1.2-3.0)5pm. 1.3. (0.6-1.9)9pm. 0.5. (0.4-1.0)Rbc magnesium 5/26/20104.2. (4.0-6.4)Lot of test!!!!Thanks again for your kind support! Suzanne

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No but low thyroid can do that. See our files on thyroid and aldo.CE Grim MDHow much are the thyroid and adrenals connected?I have been treating thyroid hormone resistance, aka high reverse t3. Wondering if the high aldosterone is causing my thyroid issues?Sent from my iPad I read 3.3 on first message. Was it 33 or 3.3?I do have a renin lab it is on the lower part of the first message.Renin 33. (non ambulatory 0.8-2.5, ambulatory 1.5-5 .2)My ND is trying to lower it with spironolactone, however, I want to explore this more to know "why" it's high.Sent from my iPad You need a renin level and your ND should be able to lower it. Can also do a 24 hr urine 4 Na K and creat. If you are really in a low na diet that may be controlling the BP. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension Hi everyone, just joined today. Thanks to all of you for this support!I tested high for aldosterone two years ago through a urine test. My ND at the time was not concerned, he thought it was due to the fact that I was a runner. I also thought that made since and was also following a low salt diet. So we ignored it.I am treAting a thyroid issue, thyroid hormone resistance, and through recent blood work tested high for aldosterone again. This time I decided not to ignore it! I do not have a high blood pressure. It runs pretty normal to low. I don't have issues with potassium. This is all Very confusing as to why I have high aldosterone.I am trying to get into a endocrinologist but will take about three months. I need some education and advise on where to start.I don't even know if this is primary or secondary.My only real "health" issue, that I know about, has been hair loss. This was one reason for exploring the thyroid but I am wondering if it has been the aldosterone all along. Maybe the aldosterone is what's causing my thyroid issues.Any comments or advice would be greatly appreciated.My labs:9/26/2008Aldosterone (urine)High 54.3. (normal diet 6-25, low salt 17-44, high salt0-6)Other adrenal hormones were fine at that time. Cortisol was pretty middle of the road. *Progesterone however was really high too. I can post if necessary.Rbc potassium 7/14/201097. (90-111)Blood aldosterone 7/18/201052.0. (1-16)Blood aldosterone/renin 6/30/2010Aldosterone 49. (1-16)Renin. 3.3. (random ambulatory 0.8-2.5, non ambulatory 1.5-5.2)I was sitting, fasting, taking two hours after waking before/around 8amAldosterone renin ratio = 15Sodium. 138. (135-145)Potassium. 4.5. (3.5-5.3)Chloride. 106. (98-109)Co2. 23. (22-31)Anion gap. 9. (5-16)Saliva cortisol 5/23/20107am. 3.7. (3.7-9.5)11am. 1.6. (1.2-3.0)5pm. 1.3. (0.6-1.9)9pm. 0.5. (0.4-1.0)Rbc magnesium 5/26/20104.2. (4.0-6.4)Lot of test!!!!Thanks again for your kind support! Suzanne

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Sorry low thyroid can cause HTN and low aldo and low renin because the low T decreases activity of the 11BOH Dehyd in the Kid and cortisol gets to the MC receptor causing Na retention, low PRA, low aldo and HTN. So read the licorice part of my article. CE Grim MDThe renin was 3.3Sent from my iPad Not if you are running unless you do not replace the salt. Still need to verify renin numbers. 3.3 or 33?One needs renin and aldo and 24 hr urine to test.Is it possible that I am salt wasting?Sent from my iPad I read 3.3 on first message. Was it 33 or 3.3?I do have a renin lab it is on the lower part of the first message.Renin 33. (non ambulatory 0.8-2.5, ambulatory 1.5-5 .2)My ND is trying to lower it with spironolactone, however, I want to explore this more to know "why" it's high.Sent from my iPad You need a renin level and your ND should be able to lower it. Can also do a 24 hr urine 4 Na K and creat. If you are really in a low na diet that may be controlling the BP. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension Hi everyone, just joined today. Thanks to all of you for this support!I tested high for aldosterone two years ago through a urine test. My ND at the time was not concerned, he thought it was due to the fact that I was a runner. I also thought that made since and was also following a low salt diet. So we ignored it.I am treAting a thyroid issue, thyroid hormone resistance, and through recent blood work tested high for aldosterone again. This time I decided not to ignore it! I do not have a high blood pressure. It runs pretty normal to low. I don't have issues with potassium. This is all Very confusing as to why I have high aldosterone.I am trying to get into a endocrinologist but will take about three months. I need some education and advise on where to start.I don't even know if this is primary or secondary.My only real "health" issue, that I know about, has been hair loss. This was one reason for exploring the thyroid but I am wondering if it has been the aldosterone all along. Maybe the aldosterone is what's causing my thyroid issues.Any comments or advice would be greatly appreciated.My labs:9/26/2008Aldosterone (urine)High 54.3. (normal diet 6-25, low salt 17-44, high salt0-6)Other adrenal hormones were fine at that time. Cortisol was pretty middle of the road. *Progesterone however was really high too. I can post if necessary.Rbc potassium 7/14/201097. (90-111)Blood aldosterone 7/18/201052.0. (1-16)Blood aldosterone/renin 6/30/2010Aldosterone 49. (1-16)Renin. 3.3. (random ambulatory 0.8-2.5, non ambulatory 1.5-5.2)I was sitting, fasting, taking two hours after waking before/around 8amAldosterone renin ratio = 15Sodium. 138. (135-145)Potassium. 4.5. (3.5-5.3)Chloride. 106. (98-109)Co2. 23. (22-31)Anion gap. 9. (5-16)Saliva cortisol 5/23/20107am. 3.7. (3.7-9.5)11am. 1.6. (1.2-3.0)5pm. 1.3. (0.6-1.9)9pm. 0.5. (0.4-1.0)Rbc magnesium 5/26/20104.2. (4.0-6.4)Lot of test!!!!Thanks again for your kind support! Suzanne

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Sent from my iPadI have replied to your answers with a * by the response. Hope it is clear.

I was not vomiting or taking diuretics when these test were done.On my first urine test I was probably on a low salt diet and running (sweating)five times a week when I tested high for aldosterone the first time.what was the renin and urine Na at that

time?*unfortunately this was a sex hormone urine test. Na and renin were not done. They were all done together on a recent blood test.On my latest two blood test, that also showed high aldosterone, I was using sea salt in my diet and not really(not sweating) running. I

was told to use the following guidelines before the draw:Sea salt is pure salt. How often did you eat out the days before.*did not eat out before test.How much weight do you lose when you run?*Haven't been running since December. was not running when last aldosterone/renin was taken*salt fast for 24hrs before test*be up and moving around for two hours before draw*draw blood no later than 8am while sitting upI do take a few over the counter supplements like vitamins, *sorry I got lazyNutricology multi vitamin and multi mineralVitamin dBiotinExtra vitamin b6Primrose oilIron/chelatesnever say etc for over the counter. There is NO regulation of OTC or supplements and they can have things in them like mercury or licorice or diuretics that can affect renin, aldo K etc.I recommend stopping all supplements until the problem is solved. CE Grim MDSent from my iPadSo I'm concerned why my renin and aldosterone would be high. You

said it could be caused by a lot of things. That makes me nervous. Are those things "curable"? Problem is renin is not low but aldo high as I recall. If you were eating a low sodium diet at the time or vomiting or sweating or taking diuretics this would give you this. If no then your renin and aldo are both high and could be due to lots of other things. Do you take any other otc stuff?CE Grim MDno i was not on meds when these labs were done. just now started spironolactone,50mg.have not found out what is causing the high aldosterone. is a tumor the most likely cause?On Wed Sep 15th, 2010 8:02 PM EDT Francis Bill SUSPECTED PA wrote:>You can not lower ALDO with meds can only block it. Only way to lower ALDO is to take out the tumor. >>Need to know what meds you are on. Were you taking meds when labs were done. >>>> >> >> Hi everyone, just joined today. Thanks to all of you for this support!>> >> I tested high for aldosterone two years ago through a urine test. My ND at the time was not concerned, he thought it was due to the fact that I was a runner. I also thought that made since and was also following a low salt diet. So we ignored it.>> >> I am treAting a thyroid issue, thyroid hormone resistance, and through recent blood work tested high for aldosterone again. This time I decided not to ignore it! >> >> I do not have a high blood pressure. It runs pretty normal to low. I don't have issues with potassium. This is all Very confusing as to why I have high aldosterone.>> >> I am trying to get into a endocrinologist but will take about three months. I need some education and advise on where to start.>> >> I don't even know if this is primary or secondary.>> >> My only real "health" issue, that I know about, has been hair loss. This was one reason for exploring the thyroid but I am wondering if it has been the aldosterone all along. Maybe the aldosterone is what's causing my thyroid issues.>> >> Any comments or advice would be greatly

appreciated.>> >> My labs:>> >> 9/26/2008>> Aldosterone (urine)>> High 54.3. (normal diet 6-25, low salt 17-44, high salt0-6)>> >> Other adrenal hormones were fine at that time. Cortisol was pretty middle of the road. *Progesterone however was really high too. I can post if necessary.>> >> Rbc potassium 7/14/2010>> 97. (90-111)>> >> Blood aldosterone 7/18/2010>> 52.0. (1-16)>> >> Blood aldosterone/renin 6/30/2010>> Aldosterone 49. (1-16)>> Renin. 3.3. (random ambulatory 0.8-2.5, non ambulatory

1.5-5.2)>> I was sitting, fasting, taking two hours after waking before/around 8am>> >> Aldosterone renin ratio = 15>> >> Sodium. 138. (135-145)>> Potassium. 4.5. (3.5-5.3)>> Chloride. 106. (98-109)>> Co2. 23. (22-31)>> Anion gap. 9. (5-16)>> >> Saliva cortisol 5/23/2010>> 7am. 3.7. (3.7-9.5)>> 11am. 1.6. (1.2-3.0)>> 5pm. 1.3. (0.6-1.9)>> 9pm. 0.5. (0.4-1.0)>> >> Rbc magnesium 5/26/2010>> 4.2. (4.0-6.4)>> >> Lot of test!!!!>> >> Thanks again for your kind

support! Suzanne>>>>

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Ok, my first blood test in July this year was aldosterone/renin on the third day of menstrual cycle salt fasting for over 48 hours.Then next aldosterone was ran the same menstrual cycle on the second half without renin. Dr wanted to get comparison on monthly cycle he only felt aldosterone was needed not another renin. For that one I only salt fasted for 24hoursRenin was 3.3Sent from my iPad

24 hours is not long enough if you are trying to get a sodium depleted renin test. Again was it 3.3 or 33.I don't think I was clear enough in my last email.When the renin/aldosterone was ran I was not sweating, vomiting, or taking

diuretics. However, I did follow guidelines that stated it was important to salt fast for 24 hours before draw.Sent from my iPad She says she is also a runner. Maybe it would help to know all that eats or drinks when training. > > >>> > >>> > >> Hi everyone, just joined today. Thanks to all of you for this > > support!> > >>> > >> I tested high for

aldosterone two years ago through a urine test. > > My ND at the time was not concerned, he thought it was due to the > > fact that I was a runner. I also thought that made since and was > > also following a low salt diet. So we ignored it.> > >>> > >> I am treAting a thyroid issue, thyroid hormone resistance, and > > through recent blood work tested high for aldosterone again. This > > time I decided not to ignore it!> > >>> > >> I do not have a high blood pressure. It runs pretty normal to > > low. I don't have issues with potassium. This is all

Very confusing > > as to why I have high aldosterone.> > >>> > >> I am trying to get into a endocrinologist but will take about > > three months. I need some education and advise on where to start.> > >>> > >> I don't even know if this is primary or secondary.> > >>> > >> My only real "health" issue, that I know about, has been hair > > loss. This was one reason for exploring the thyroid but I am > > wondering if it has been the aldosterone all along. Maybe the > > aldosterone is what's causing my thyroid issues.> > >>> > >> Any comments or

advice would be greatly appreciated.> > >>> > >> My labs:> > >>> > >> 9/26/2008> > >> Aldosterone (urine)> > >> High 54.3. (normal diet 6-25, low salt 17-44, high salt0-6)> > >>> > >> Other adrenal hormones were fine at that time. Cortisol was > > pretty middle of the road. *Progesterone however was really high > > too. I can post if necessary.> > >>> > >> Rbc potassium 7/14/2010> > >> 97. (90-111)> > >>> > >> Blood aldosterone 7/18/2010> > >> 52.0. (1-16)> > >>> > >> Blood aldosterone/renin 6/30/2010> > >> Aldosterone 49. (1-16)> > >> Renin. 3.3. (random

ambulatory 0.8-2.5, non ambulatory 1.5-5.2)> > >> I was sitting, fasting, taking two hours after waking before/ > > around 8am> > >>> > >> Aldosterone renin ratio = 15> > >>> > >> Sodium. 138. (135-145)> > >> Potassium. 4.5. (3.5-5.3)> > >> Chloride. 106. (98-109)> > >> Co2. 23. (22-31)> > >> Anion gap. 9. (5-16)> > >>> > >> Saliva cortisol 5/23/2010> > >> 7am. 3.7. (3.7-9.5)> > >> 11am. 1.6. (1.2-3.0)> > >> 5pm. 1.3. (0.6-1.9)> > >> 9pm. 0.5. (0.4-1.0)> > >>> > >> Rbc magnesium 5/26/2010> > >> 4.2. (4.0-6.4)> > >>> > >> Lot of test!!!!> > >>> > >>

Thanks again for your kind support! Suzanne> > >>> > >> > >> >> >> >>

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I was thinking they did not do a urine Na on the most recent test? CE Grim MDSent from my iPadI have replied to your answers with a * by the response. Hope it is clear. I was not vomiting or taking diuretics when these test were done.On my first urine test I was probably on a low salt diet and running (sweating)five times a week when I tested high for aldosterone the first time.what was the renin and urine Na at that time?*unfortunately this was a sex hormone urine test. Na and renin were not done. They were all done together on a recent blood test.On my latest two blood test, that also showed high aldosterone, I was using sea salt in my diet and not really(not sweating) running. I was told to use the following guidelines before the draw:Sea salt is pure salt. How often did you eat out the days before.*did not eat out before test.How much weight do you lose when you run?*Haven't been running since December. was not running when last aldosterone/renin was taken*salt fast for 24hrs before test*be up and moving around for two hours before draw*draw blood no later than 8am while sitting upI do take a few over the counter supplements like vitamins, *sorry I got lazyNutricology multi vitamin and multi mineralVitamin dBiotinExtra vitamin b6Primrose oilIron/chelatesnever say etc for over the counter. There is NO regulation of OTC or supplements and they can have things in them like mercury or licorice or diuretics that can affect renin, aldo K etc.I recommend stopping all supplements until the problem is solved. CE Grim MDSent from my iPadSo I'm concerned why my renin and aldosterone would be high. You said it could be caused by a lot of things. That makes me nervous. Are those things "curable"? Problem is renin is not low but aldo high as I recall. If you were eating a low sodium diet at the time or vomiting or sweating or taking diuretics this would give you this. If no then your renin and aldo are both high and could be due to lots of other things. Do you take any other otc stuff?CE Grim MDno i was not on meds when these labs were done. just now started spironolactone,50mg.have not found out what is causing the high aldosterone. is a tumor the most likely cause?On Wed Sep 15th, 2010 8:02 PM EDT Francis Bill SUSPECTED PA wrote:>You can not lower ALDO with meds can only block it. Only way to lower ALDO is to take out the tumor. >>Need to know what meds you are on. Were you taking meds when labs were done. >>>> >> >> Hi everyone, just joined today. Thanks to all of you for this support!>> >> I tested high for aldosterone two years ago through a urine test. My ND at the time was not concerned, he thought it was due to the fact that I was a runner. I also thought that made since and was also following a low salt diet. So we ignored it.>> >> I am treAting a thyroid issue, thyroid hormone resistance, and through recent blood work tested high for aldosterone again. This time I decided not to ignore it! >> >> I do not have a high blood pressure. It runs pretty normal to low. I don't have issues with potassium. This is all Very confusing as to why I have high aldosterone.>> >> I am trying to get into a endocrinologist but will take about three months. I need some education and advise on where to start.>> >> I don't even know if this is primary or secondary.>> >> My only real "health" issue, that I know about, has been hair loss. This was one reason for exploring the thyroid but I am wondering if it has been the aldosterone all along. Maybe the aldosterone is what's causing my thyroid issues.>> >> Any comments or advice would be greatly appreciated.>> >> My labs:>> >> 9/26/2008>> Aldosterone (urine)>> High 54.3. (normal diet 6-25, low salt 17-44, high salt0-6)>> >> Other adrenal hormones were fine at that time. Cortisol was pretty middle of the road. *Progesterone however was really high too. I can post if necessary.>> >> Rbc potassium 7/14/2010>> 97. (90-111)>> >> Blood aldosterone 7/18/2010>> 52.0. (1-16)>> >> Blood aldosterone/renin 6/30/2010>> Aldosterone 49. (1-16)>> Renin. 3.3. (random ambulatory 0.8-2.5, non ambulatory 1.5-5.2)>> I was sitting, fasting, taking two hours after waking before/around 8am>> >> Aldosterone renin ratio = 15>> >> Sodium. 138. (135-145)>> Potassium. 4.5. (3.5-5.3)>> Chloride. 106. (98-109)>> Co2. 23. (22-31)>> Anion gap. 9. (5-16)>> >> Saliva cortisol 5/23/2010>> 7am. 3.7. (3.7-9.5)>> 11am. 1.6. (1.2-3.0)>> 5pm. 1.3. (0.6-1.9)>> 9pm. 0.5. (0.4-1.0)>> >> Rbc magnesium 5/26/2010>> 4.2. (4.0-6.4)>> >> Lot of test!!!!>> >> Thanks again for your kind support! Suzanne>>>>

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We need to update your Dr on the physiology of the RAAS system.My article is a good start.CE Grim MDOk, my first blood test in July this year was aldosterone/renin on the third day of menstrual cycle salt fasting for over 48 hours.Then next aldosterone was ran the same menstrual cycle on the second half without renin. Dr wanted to get comparison on monthly cycle he only felt aldosterone was needed not another renin. For that one I only salt fasted for 24hoursRenin was 3.3Sent from my iPad 24 hours is not long enough if you are trying to get a sodium depleted renin test. Again was it 3.3 or 33.I don't think I was clear enough in my last email.When the renin/aldosterone was ran I was not sweating, vomiting, or taking diuretics. However, I did follow guidelines that stated it was important to salt fast for 24 hours before draw.Sent from my iPad She says she is also a runner. Maybe it would help to know all that eats or drinks when training. > > >>> > >>> > >> Hi everyone, just joined today. Thanks to all of you for this > > support!> > >>> > >> I tested high for aldosterone two years ago through a urine test. > > My ND at the time was not concerned, he thought it was due to the > > fact that I was a runner. I also thought that made since and was > > also following a low salt diet. So we ignored it.> > >>> > >> I am treAting a thyroid issue, thyroid hormone resistance, and > > through recent blood work tested high for aldosterone again. This > > time I decided not to ignore it!> > >>> > >> I do not have a high blood pressure. It runs pretty normal to > > low. I don't have issues with potassium. This is all Very confusing > > as to why I have high aldosterone.> > >>> > >> I am trying to get into a endocrinologist but will take about > > three months. I need some education and advise on where to start.> > >>> > >> I don't even know if this is primary or secondary.> > >>> > >> My only real "health" issue, that I know about, has been hair > > loss. This was one reason for exploring the thyroid but I am > > wondering if it has been the aldosterone all along. Maybe the > > aldosterone is what's causing my thyroid issues.> > >>> > >> Any comments or advice would be greatly appreciated.> > >>> > >> My labs:> > >>> > >> 9/26/2008> > >> Aldosterone (urine)> > >> High 54.3. (normal diet 6-25, low salt 17-44, high salt0-6)> > >>> > >> Other adrenal hormones were fine at that time. Cortisol was > > pretty middle of the road. *Progesterone however was really high > > too. I can post if necessary.> > >>> > >> Rbc potassium 7/14/2010> > >> 97. (90-111)> > >>> > >> Blood aldosterone 7/18/2010> > >> 52.0. (1-16)> > >>> > >> Blood aldosterone/renin 6/30/2010> > >> Aldosterone 49. (1-16)> > >> Renin. 3.3. (random ambulatory 0.8-2.5, non ambulatory 1.5-5.2)> > >> I was sitting, fasting, taking two hours after waking before/ > > around 8am> > >>> > >> Aldosterone renin ratio = 15> > >>> > >> Sodium. 138. (135-145)> > >> Potassium. 4.5. (3.5-5.3)> > >> Chloride. 106. (98-109)> > >> Co2. 23. (22-31)> > >> Anion gap. 9. (5-16)> > >>> > >> Saliva cortisol 5/23/2010> > >> 7am. 3.7. (3.7-9.5)> > >> 11am. 1.6. (1.2-3.0)> > >> 5pm. 1.3. (0.6-1.9)> > >> 9pm. 0.5. (0.4-1.0)> > >>> > >> Rbc magnesium 5/26/2010> > >> 4.2. (4.0-6.4)> > >>> > >> Lot of test!!!!> > >>> > >> Thanks again for your kind support! Suzanne> > >>> > >> > >> >> >> >>

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No they didn't. It was blood aldosterone, renin,sodium, & potassium on the most recent.Sent from my iPad

I was thinking they did not do a urine Na on the most recent test? CE Grim MDSent from my iPadI have replied to your answers with a * by the response. Hope it is clear. I was not vomiting or taking diuretics when these test were done.On my first urine test I was probably on a low salt diet and running (sweating)five times a week when I tested high for aldosterone the first time.what was the renin and urine Na at that

time?*unfortunately this was a sex hormone urine test. Na and renin were not done. They were all done together on a recent blood test.On my latest two blood test, that also showed high aldosterone, I was using sea salt in my diet and not

really(not sweating) running. I was told to use the following guidelines before the draw:Sea salt is pure salt. How often did you eat out the days before.*did not eat out before test.How much weight do you lose when you run?*Haven't been running since December. was not running when last aldosterone/renin was taken*salt fast for 24hrs before test*be up and moving around for two hours before draw*draw blood no later than 8am while sitting upI do take a few over the counter supplements like vitamins, *sorry I got lazyNutricology multi vitamin and multi mineralVitamin dBiotinExtra vitamin b6Primrose

oilIron/chelatesnever say etc for over the counter. There is NO regulation of OTC or supplements and they can have things in them like mercury or licorice or diuretics that can affect renin, aldo K etc.I recommend stopping all supplements until the problem is solved. CE Grim MDSent from my iPadSo I'm concerned why my renin and aldosterone would be high. You said it could be caused by a lot of things. That makes me nervous. Are those things "curable"? Problem is renin is not low but aldo high as I recall. If you were eating a low sodium diet at the time or vomiting or sweating or taking diuretics this would give you this. If no then your renin and aldo are both high and could be due to lots of other things.

Do you take any other otc stuff?CE Grim MDno i was not on meds when these labs were done. just now started spironolactone,50mg.have not found out what is causing the high aldosterone. is a tumor the most likely cause?On Wed Sep 15th, 2010 8:02 PM EDT Francis Bill SUSPECTED PA wrote:>You can not lower ALDO with meds

can only block it. Only way to lower ALDO is to take out the tumor. >>Need to know what meds you are on. Were you taking meds when labs were done. >>>> >> >> Hi everyone, just joined today. Thanks to all of you for this support!>> >> I tested high for aldosterone two years ago through a urine test. My ND at the time was not concerned, he thought it was due to the fact that I was a runner. I also thought that made since and was also following a low salt diet. So we ignored

it.>> >> I am treAting a thyroid issue, thyroid hormone resistance, and through recent blood work tested high for aldosterone again. This time I decided not to ignore it! >> >> I do not have a high blood pressure. It runs pretty normal to low. I don't have issues with potassium. This is all Very confusing as to why I have high aldosterone.>> >> I am trying to get into a endocrinologist but will take about three months. I need some education and advise on where to start.>> >> I don't even know if this is primary or secondary.>> >> My only real "health" issue, that I know

about, has been hair loss. This was one reason for exploring the thyroid but I am wondering if it has been the aldosterone all along. Maybe the aldosterone is what's causing my thyroid issues.>> >> Any comments or advice would be greatly appreciated.>> >> My labs:>> >> 9/26/2008>> Aldosterone (urine)>> High 54.3. (normal diet 6-25, low salt 17-44, high salt0-6)>> >> Other adrenal hormones were fine at that time. Cortisol was pretty middle of the road. *Progesterone however was really high too. I can post if necessary.>> >> Rbc potassium 7/14/2010>> 97. (90-111)>> >> Blood aldosterone 7/18/2010>> 52.0. (1-16)>> >> Blood aldosterone/renin 6/30/2010>> Aldosterone 49. (1-16)>> Renin. 3.3. (random ambulatory 0.8-2.5, non ambulatory 1.5-5.2)>> I was sitting, fasting, taking two hours after waking before/around 8am>> >> Aldosterone renin ratio = 15>> >> Sodium. 138. (135-145)>> Potassium. 4.5. (3.5-5.3)>> Chloride. 106. (98-109)>> Co2. 23. (22-31)>> Anion gap. 9. (5-16)>> >> Saliva cortisol 5/23/2010>> 7am. 3.7. (3.7-9.5)>> 11am. 1.6. (1.2-3.0)>> 5pm. 1.3. (0.6-1.9)>> 9pm. 0.5.

(0.4-1.0)>> >> Rbc magnesium 5/26/2010>> 4.2. (4.0-6.4)>> >> Lot of test!!!!>> >> Thanks again for your kind support! Suzanne>>>>

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If you can tell us where you live and what medical centers are near you Dr Grim

may know someone there.

> >>

> >>

> >> Hi everyone, just joined today. Thanks to all of you for this support!

> >>

> >> I tested high for aldosterone two years ago through a urine test. My ND at

the time was not concerned, he thought it was due to the fact that I was a

runner. I also thought that made since and was also following a low salt diet.

So we ignored it.

> >>

> >> I am treAting a thyroid issue, thyroid hormone resistance, and through

recent blood work tested high for aldosterone again. This time I decided not to

ignore it!

> >>

> >> I do not have a high blood pressure. It runs pretty normal to low. I don't

have issues with potassium. This is all Very confusing as to why I have high

aldosterone.

> >>

> >> I am trying to get into a endocrinologist but will take about three months.

I need some education and advise on where to start.

> >>

> >> I don't even know if this is primary or secondary.

> >>

> >> My only real " health " issue, that I know about, has been hair loss. This

was one reason for exploring the thyroid but I am wondering if it has been the

aldosterone all along. Maybe the aldosterone is what's causing my thyroid

issues.

> >>

> >> Any comments or advice would be greatly appreciated.

> >>

> >> My labs:

> >>

> >> 9/26/2008

> >> Aldosterone (urine)

> >> High 54.3. (normal diet 6-25, low salt 17-44, high salt0-6)

> >>

> >> Other adrenal hormones were fine at that time. Cortisol was pretty middle

of the road. *Progesterone however was really high too. I can post if necessary.

> >>

> >> Rbc potassium 7/14/2010

> >> 97. (90-111)

> >>

> >> Blood aldosterone 7/18/2010

> >> 52.0. (1-16)

> >>

> >> Blood aldosterone/renin 6/30/2010

> >> Aldosterone 49. (1-16)

> >> Renin. 3.3. (random ambulatory 0.8-2.5, non ambulatory 1.5-5.2)

> >> I was sitting, fasting, taking two hours after waking before/around 8am

> >>

> >> Aldosterone renin ratio = 15

> >>

> >> Sodium. 138. (135-145)

> >> Potassium. 4.5. (3.5-5.3)

> >> Chloride. 106. (98-109)

> >> Co2. 23. (22-31)

> >> Anion gap. 9. (5-16)

> >>

> >> Saliva cortisol 5/23/2010

> >> 7am. 3.7. (3.7-9.5)

> >> 11am. 1.6. (1.2-3.0)

> >> 5pm. 1.3. (0.6-1.9)

> >> 9pm. 0.5. (0.4-1.0)

> >>

> >> Rbc magnesium 5/26/2010

> >> 4.2. (4.0-6.4)

> >>

> >> Lot of test!!!!

> >>

> >> Thanks again for your kind support! Suzanne

> >>

> >

> >

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This is the first that I hear of runners testing high Aldosterone. Perhaps a subject to research on. I used to be a runner too and no one considered it when I was diagnosed. I no longer run now as an athlete but still test high Aldosterone and bp.FarahSent from my iPhone

I was running a lot when the first test was done. My doctor did ignore than because of the running. Runners do typically have high aldosterone. However, I took a break from running this yeAr and still testing high.Sent from my iPad

Could her ALDO be high just because she is doing a lot of running?

> > > >>

> > > >>

> > > >> Hi everyone, just joined today. Thanks to all of you for this

> > > support!

> > > >>

> > > >> I tested high for aldosterone two years ago through a urine test.

> > > My ND at the time was not concerned, he thought it was due to the

> > > fact that I was a runner. I also thought that made since and was

> > > also following a low salt diet. So we ignored it.

> > > >>

> > > >> I am treAting a thyroid issue, thyroid hormone resistance, and

> > > through recent blood work tested high for aldosterone again. This

> > > time I decided not to ignore it!

> > > >>

> > > >> I do not have a high blood pressure. It runs pretty normal to

> > > low. I don't have issues with potassium. This is all Very confusing

> > > as to why I have high aldosterone.

> > > >>

> > > >> I am trying to get into a endocrinologist but will take about

> > > three months. I need some education and advise on where to start.

> > > >>

> > > >> I don't even know if this is primary or secondary.

> > > >>

> > > >> My only real "health" issue, that I know about, has been hair

> > > loss. This was one reason for exploring the thyroid but I am

> > > wondering if it has been the aldosterone all along. Maybe the

> > > aldosterone is what's causing my thyroid issues.

> > > >>

> > > >> Any comments or advice would be greatly appreciated.

> > > >>

> > > >> My labs:

> > > >>

> > > >> 9/26/2008

> > > >> Aldosterone (urine)

> > > >> High 54.3. (normal diet 6-25, low salt 17-44, high salt0-6)

> > > >>

> > > >> Other adrenal hormones were fine at that time. Cortisol was

> > > pretty middle of the road. *Progesterone however was really high

> > > too. I can post if necessary.

> > > >>

> > > >> Rbc potassium 7/14/2010

> > > >> 97. (90-111)

> > > >>

> > > >> Blood aldosterone 7/18/2010

> > > >> 52.0. (1-16)

> > > >>

> > > >> Blood aldosterone/renin 6/30/2010

> > > >> Aldosterone 49. (1-16)

> > > >> Renin. 3.3. (random ambulatory 0.8-2.5, non ambulatory 1.5-5.2)

> > > >> I was sitting, fasting, taking two hours after waking before/

> > > around 8am

> > > >>

> > > >> Aldosterone renin ratio = 15

> > > >>

> > > >> Sodium. 138. (135-145)

> > > >> Potassium. 4.5. (3.5-5.3)

> > > >> Chloride. 106. (98-109)

> > > >> Co2. 23. (22-31)

> > > >> Anion gap. 9. (5-16)

> > > >>

> > > >> Saliva cortisol 5/23/2010

> > > >> 7am. 3.7. (3.7-9.5)

> > > >> 11am. 1.6. (1.2-3.0)

> > > >> 5pm. 1.3. (0.6-1.9)

> > > >> 9pm. 0.5. (0.4-1.0)

> > > >>

> > > >> Rbc magnesium 5/26/2010

> > > >> 4.2. (4.0-6.4)

> > > >>

> > > >> Lot of test!!!!

> > > >>

> > > >> Thanks again for your kind support! Suzanne

> > > >>

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

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Running will increase aldo if you are salt depleted. Acutely or chronically.But renin should be high as well.Esp if running in a hot environment.CE Grim MDThis is the first that I hear of runners testing high Aldosterone. Perhaps a subject to research on. I used to be a runner too and no one considered it when I was diagnosed. I no longer run now as an athlete but still test high Aldosterone and bp.FarahSent from my iPhone I was running a lot when the first test was done. My doctor did ignore than because of the running. Runners do typically have high aldosterone. However, I took a break from running this yeAr and still testing high.Sent from my iPad Could her ALDO be high just because she is doing a lot of running?> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> Hi everyone, just joined today. Thanks to all of you for this > > > support!> > > >>> > > >> I tested high for aldosterone two years ago through a urine test. > > > My ND at the time was not concerned, he thought it was due to the > > > fact that I was a runner. I also thought that made since and was > > > also following a low salt diet. So we ignored it.> > > >>> > > >> I am treAting a thyroid issue, thyroid hormone resistance, and > > > through recent blood work tested high for aldosterone again. This > > > time I decided not to ignore it!> > > >>> > > >> I do not have a high blood pressure. It runs pretty normal to > > > low. I don't have issues with potassium. This is all Very confusing > > > as to why I have high aldosterone.> > > >>> > > >> I am trying to get into a endocrinologist but will take about > > > three months. I need some education and advise on where to start.> > > >>> > > >> I don't even know if this is primary or secondary.> > > >>> > > >> My only real "health" issue, that I know about, has been hair > > > loss. This was one reason for exploring the thyroid but I am > > > wondering if it has been the aldosterone all along. Maybe the > > > aldosterone is what's causing my thyroid issues.> > > >>> > > >> Any comments or advice would be greatly appreciated.> > > >>> > > >> My labs:> > > >>> > > >> 9/26/2008> > > >> Aldosterone (urine)> > > >> High 54.3. (normal diet 6-25, low salt 17-44, high salt0-6)> > > >>> > > >> Other adrenal hormones were fine at that time. Cortisol was > > > pretty middle of the road. *Progesterone however was really high > > > too. I can post if necessary.> > > >>> > > >> Rbc potassium 7/14/2010> > > >> 97. (90-111)> > > >>> > > >> Blood aldosterone 7/18/2010> > > >> 52.0. (1-16)> > > >>> > > >> Blood aldosterone/renin 6/30/2010> > > >> Aldosterone 49. (1-16)> > > >> Renin. 3.3. (random ambulatory 0.8-2.5, non ambulatory 1.5-5.2)> > > >> I was sitting, fasting, taking two hours after waking before/ > > > around 8am> > > >>> > > >> Aldosterone renin ratio = 15> > > >>> > > >> Sodium. 138. (135-145)> > > >> Potassium. 4.5. (3.5-5.3)> > > >> Chloride. 106. (98-109)> > > >> Co2. 23. (22-31)> > > >> Anion gap. 9. (5-16)> > > >>> > > >> Saliva cortisol 5/23/2010> > > >> 7am. 3.7. (3.7-9.5)> > > >> 11am. 1.6. (1.2-3.0)> > > >> 5pm. 1.3. (0.6-1.9)> > > >> 9pm. 0.5. (0.4-1.0)> > > >>> > > >> Rbc magnesium 5/26/2010> > > >> 4.2. (4.0-6.4)> > > >>> > > >> Lot of test!!!!> > > >>> > > >> Thanks again for your kind support! Suzanne> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> >>

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What Affects the Test

Reasons you may not be able to have the test or why the results may not be

helpful include:

Eating large amounts of natural black licorice.

Pregnancy. Aldosterone levels may be high in the third trimester of pregnancy.

Taking medicines, such as female hormones (progesterone and estrogen),

corticosteroids, heparin, opiates, laxatives, nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory

drugs (NSAIDs), or diuretics. Most medicines used to treat high blood pressure,

especially spironolactone (Aldactone), eplerenone (Inspra), and beta-blockers,

increase blood levels of aldosterone and renin.

Exercising hard or being under emotional stress.

Your age. Aldosterone levels normally decrease with age.

> >>> > > > >>

> >>> > > > >>

> >>> > > > >> Hi everyone, just joined today. Thanks to all of you for

> >>> this

> >>> > > > support!

> >>> > > > >>

> >>> > > > >> I tested high for aldosterone two years ago through a

> >>> urine test.

> >>> > > > My ND at the time was not concerned, he thought it was due

> >>> to the

> >>> > > > fact that I was a runner. I also thought that made since and

> >>> was

> >>> > > > also following a low salt diet. So we ignored it.

> >>> > > > >>

> >>> > > > >> I am treAting a thyroid issue, thyroid hormone

> >>> resistance, and

> >>> > > > through recent blood work tested high for aldosterone again.

> >>> This

> >>> > > > time I decided not to ignore it!

> >>> > > > >>

> >>> > > > >> I do not have a high blood pressure. It runs pretty

> >>> normal to

> >>> > > > low. I don't have issues with potassium. This is all Very

> >>> confusing

> >>> > > > as to why I have high aldosterone.

> >>> > > > >>

> >>> > > > >> I am trying to get into a endocrinologist but will take

> >>> about

> >>> > > > three months. I need some education and advise on where to

> >>> start.

> >>> > > > >>

> >>> > > > >> I don't even know if this is primary or secondary.

> >>> > > > >>

> >>> > > > >> My only real " health " issue, that I know about, has been

> >>> hair

> >>> > > > loss. This was one reason for exploring the thyroid but I am

> >>> > > > wondering if it has been the aldosterone all along. Maybe the

> >>> > > > aldosterone is what's causing my thyroid issues.

> >>> > > > >>

> >>> > > > >> Any comments or advice would be greatly appreciated.

> >>> > > > >>

> >>> > > > >> My labs:

> >>> > > > >>

> >>> > > > >> 9/26/2008

> >>> > > > >> Aldosterone (urine)

> >>> > > > >> High 54.3. (normal diet 6-25, low salt 17-44, high salt0-6)

> >>> > > > >>

> >>> > > > >> Other adrenal hormones were fine at that time. Cortisol was

> >>> > > > pretty middle of the road. *Progesterone however was really

> >>> high

> >>> > > > too. I can post if necessary.

> >>> > > > >>

> >>> > > > >> Rbc potassium 7/14/2010

> >>> > > > >> 97. (90-111)

> >>> > > > >>

> >>> > > > >> Blood aldosterone 7/18/2010

> >>> > > > >> 52.0. (1-16)

> >>> > > > >>

> >>> > > > >> Blood aldosterone/renin 6/30/2010

> >>> > > > >> Aldosterone 49. (1-16)

> >>> > > > >> Renin. 3.3. (random ambulatory 0.8-2.5, non ambulatory

> >>> 1.5-5.2)

> >>> > > > >> I was sitting, fasting, taking two hours after waking

> >>> before/

> >>> > > > around 8am

> >>> > > > >>

> >>> > > > >> Aldosterone renin ratio = 15

> >>> > > > >>

> >>> > > > >> Sodium. 138. (135-145)

> >>> > > > >> Potassium. 4.5. (3.5-5.3)

> >>> > > > >> Chloride. 106. (98-109)

> >>> > > > >> Co2. 23. (22-31)

> >>> > > > >> Anion gap. 9. (5-16)

> >>> > > > >>

> >>> > > > >> Saliva cortisol 5/23/2010

> >>> > > > >> 7am. 3.7. (3.7-9.5)

> >>> > > > >> 11am. 1.6. (1.2-3.0)

> >>> > > > >> 5pm. 1.3. (0.6-1.9)

> >>> > > > >> 9pm. 0.5. (0.4-1.0)

> >>> > > > >>

> >>> > > > >> Rbc magnesium 5/26/2010

> >>> > > > >> 4.2. (4.0-6.4)

> >>> > > > >>

> >>> > > > >> Lot of test!!!!

> >>> > > > >>

> >>> > > > >> Thanks again for your kind support! Suzanne

> >>> > > > >>

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Since you say this aldo/renin was done after you ate a lot of salt and was done early in menstrual cycle. You should read this study.

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Female Endocrinology The Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism Vol. 91, No. 10 3981-3987Copyright © 2006 by The Endocrine Society

Relationship between Aldosterone and Progesterone in the Human Menstrual Cycle D. Szmuilowicz, Gail K. Adler, S. , Dina E. Green, Tham M. Yao, N. Hopkins and Ellen W. Seely

Division of Endocrinology, Diabetes and Hypertension (E.D.S., G.K.A., J.S.W., D.E.G., T.M.Y., E.W.S.), Department of Medicine, Brigham and Women's Hospital, Harvard Medical School, Boston, Massachusetts 02115; and Department of Medicine (P.N.H.), University of Utah School of Medicine, Salt Lake City, Utah 84132

Address all correspondence and requests for reprints to: Ellen W. Seely, M.D., Division of Endocrinology, Diabetes and Hypertension, Brigham and Women's Hospital, 221 Longwood Avenue, Boston, Massachusetts 02115. E-mail: eseely@...

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Abstract

TopAbstractIntroductionSubjects and MethodsResultsDiscussionReferences Context: Aldosterone levels increase during the luteal phase of the menstrual cycle. Prior studies examining relationships between aldosterone and female sex hormones did not control for sodium balance, a major determinant of aldosterone production.

Objectives: The objectives of this study were 1) to compare aldosterone levels between menstrual phases among cycling women in high- and low-sodium balance; and 2) to examine the relationships between aldosterone and female sex hormones in women and the effects of sex hormones on rat zona glomerulosa (ZG) cell aldosterone production in vitro.

Subjects/Interventions: Normotensive, premenopausal women were studied in low- and/or high-sodium balance. Urinary aldosterone, basal serum aldosterone, plasma renin activity (PRA), plasma angiotensin II (AngII), and serum aldosterone after AngII infusion were measured. Isolated rat ZG cells were treated with progesterone, estradiol, or both, and aldosterone was measured.

Results: In high-sodium balance, urinary aldosterone, basal serum aldosterone, and serum aldosterone response to infused AngII were significantly greater (P < 0.05) in the luteal vs. follicular phase. PRA, AngII, and potassium did not differ. Progesterone directly correlated with urinary aldosterone, basal serum aldosterone, and serum aldosterone response to infused AngII. Estradiol did not significantly correlate with aldosterone. In low-sodium balance, no significant differences in aldosterone levels between phases were found. In vitro, progesterone increased ZG cell aldosterone production (P < 0.01), whereas estradiol had no effect.

Conclusions: In women, urinary and serum aldosterone levels are significantly higher during the luteal phase in high- but not low-sodium balance, whereas PRA and AngII do not differ between phases. Progesterone may directly contribute to increased luteal phase aldosterone production, independent of the renin-angiotensin system.

Introduction

TopAbstractIntroductionSubjects and MethodsResultsDiscussionReferences ALDOSTERONE LEVELS HAVE been reported to increase during the luteal phase of the human menstrual cycle, a time characterized by increased progesterone and estradiol production. Although progesterone is known to have antimineralocorticoid effects (1, 2, 3), it is unclear whether additional mechanisms contribute to increased luteal phase aldosterone production. Most prior studies did not control for (4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12) or document (13) sodium balance, which plays a major role in regulation of aldosterone production via the renin-angiotensin system (RAS). In two prior studies that did account for sodium balance (14, 15), the relationships between aldosterone and the female sex hormones progesterone and estradiol were not investigated.

Progesterone is postulated to mediate the luteal phase increase in aldosterone levels. Because progesterone inhibits aldosterone binding to the mineralocorticoid receptor (1, 3, 16), increased progesterone production during the luteal phase likely leads to compensatory activation of the RAS and thus increased aldosterone production (6, 8, 9, 12, 17). However, it is not known whether additional mechanisms contribute to luteal phase aldosterone increases, independent of the RAS. We examined the mechanisms by which luteal phase aldosterone levels increase among women in sodium balance, because differences in sodium balance independently influence RAS hormone levels. Furthermore, we investigated the role of estradiol in the luteal phase aldosterone increase, which has not been previously reported.

The purpose of this study was to compare aldosterone levels during the follicular and luteal phases of the menstrual cycle among women in documented sodium balance, at baseline and in response to angiotensin II (AngII) infusion. We also sought to investigate the relationships between aldosterone and the female sex hormones progesterone and estradiol among women in sodium balance. Last, we aimed to explore additional mechanisms by which female sex hormones may modulate aldosterone production by determining whether direct administration of progesterone or estradiol to isolated rat zona glomerulosa (ZG) cells influences aldosterone production.

Subjects and Methods

TopAbstractIntroductionSubjects and MethodsResultsDiscussionReferences Subjects Subjects studied as previously described (18, 19) by the international HyperPath (Hypertensive Pathotype) consortium were included in this post hoc analysis. Only normotensive, premenopausal women in sodium balance (as described in a subsequent paragraph) were included. Subjects were excluded if they had active medical problems, were pregnant, or were taking exogenous estrogens or progestins.

Normotension was defined as seated systolic blood pressure less than 140 mm Hg and diastolic blood pressure less than 90 mm Hg measured manually with a standard mercury sphygmomanometer on three occasions. Premenopausal status was defined as having regular menstrual cycles or, where menstrual history was not available, age 45 yr or less and serum FSH level less than 20 IU/liter. The luteal phase of the menstrual cycle was defined by a serum progesterone level more than 3 ng/ml.

Protocols Subjects were admitted to the General Clinical Research Centers (GCRCs) of the Brigham and Women's Hospital, University of Utah Medical Center, or Vanderbilt University. The Institutional Review Boards at each site approved the protocols, and each subject provided written informed consent before enrollment.

As part of the original protocol, subjects were scheduled for study on low-sodium or both low- and high-sodium diets without regard for menstrual cycle phase. For the high-sodium protocol, subjects were placed on an isocaloric diet containing 200 mEq sodium and 100 mEq potassium per day for 7 d. For the low-sodium protocol, subjects were placed on an isocaloric diet containing 10 mEq sodium and 100 mEq potassium per day for 7 d. Urinary sodium, creatinine, and aldosterone excretion were measured in a 24-h urine sample collected at the end of the 7-d period. Subjects were admitted to the GCRC, and after fasting overnight and remaining recumbent for at least 6 h, blood was drawn in the supine position for aldosterone, plasma renin activity (PRA), AngII, potassium, estradiol, and progesterone measurement using an iv catheter. Subjects then received an infusion of AngII-amide (CIBA-Geigy, Summit, NJ) at 3 ng/kg·min for 50 min, delivered by an electronic infusion pump (Baxter Corporation, Deerfield, IL). Serum aldosterone was measured at the end of the infusion. Blood pressure was measured with an automatic indirect recording sphygmomanometer (Dinamap; Critikon, Inc., Tampa, FL) at baseline and then every 2 min during the AngII infusion.

For the high-sodium analysis, data from subjects who successfully achieved high-sodium balance (24-h urine sodium excretion 150 and 250 mEq) were included. For the low-sodium analysis, data from subjects who successfully achieved low-sodium balance (24-h urine sodium <40 mEq) were included.

Laboratory procedures Blood samples were collected on ice, spun, and frozen until the time of assay. Urinary aldosterone, serum progesterone, and serum aldosterone were measured by solid phase RIA using the Coat-A-Count procedure [Diagnostic Products Corporation (DPC), Los Angeles, CA]. PRA was measured using the GammaCoat [125I] RIA kit by the RIA of generated angiotensin I (DiaSorin, Stillwater, MN). Plasma samples for AngII were immediately treated with a mix of angiotensinase and angiotensin-converting enzyme inhibitors that included phenylmethylsulfonyl fluoride, phenanthroline, pepstatin, and captopril. Plasma AngII was measured by double-antibody RIA (ALPCO, Windham, NH). FSH was measured by paramagnetic-particle chemiluminescent immunoassay (Beckman Instruments Inc., Chaska, MN). Estradiol was measured using double antibody 125I RIA (DPC). Serum and urinary sodium and serum potassium levels were measured by flame photometry, with lithium as an internal standard (Nova Biomedical, Waltham, MA). Urinary creatinine was measured using the ACE Creatinine Reagent (Alfa Wasserman, West Caldwell, NJ).

In vitro experiments ZG cells were isolated from intact female 6- to 8-wk-old Wistar rats ( River Laboratories, Wilmington, MA). Rats were fed PicoLab Rodent Diet 20 (0.33% sodium; Richmond, IN) for 6 d followed by induction of anesthesia using inhaled isoflurane; they were then killed, and adrenal glands were removed. ZG cells were prepared from the capsular portion of the adrenal as previously described (20). Cells from approximately eight rats were pooled for each study. Briefly, capsules were incubated in collagenase (3.7 mg/ml; Worthington Biochemical Corporation, Freehold, NJ) and DNAase (0.05 mg/ml; Worthington Biochemical Corporation) for 50 min at 37 C followed by centrifugation. After washing the cell pellets with a modified Krebs-Ringer bicarbonate solution (KRBGA) and determining by microscopic examination that less than 5% of cells were fasciculata cells, cells were resuspended in KRBGA (0.5 x 106 cells/ml). Cells were incubated for 1 h at 37 C in 5% CO2-95% O2 with KRBGA containing vehicle, progesterone (50 ng/ml; Sigma-Aldrich, St. Louis, MO), estradiol (80 pg/ml; Sigma-Aldrich), or estradiol (80 pg/ml) plus progesterone (50 ng/ml). These progesterone and estradiol concentrations correspond to peak levels achieved during the rat estrous cycle (21). Incubations were performed in duplicate or triplicate, and the studies were repeated twice. Media from incubates was assayed for aldosterone in duplicate using solid phase RIA (DPC). All experiments were conducted in accord with accepted standards of humane animal care, and experimental procedures were approved by the Institutional Animal Care and Use Committee at Harvard University.

Statistical analysis Data from the human study are presented as median with interquartile range, and data from the in vitro study are presented as mean ± SEM. Comparisons between phases of the menstrual cycle were performed using the Mann-Whitney U test. For subjects studied in both high- and low-sodium balance, the Wilcoxon signed ranks test was used to compare parameters in high- vs. low-sodium balance. Spearman correlation coefficients were used to examine relationships between sex hormones (progesterone and estradiol) and aldosterone, PRA, and AngII levels. In the in vitro study, one-way ANOVA was used to compare treatment groups. A P value less than 0.05 was considered statistically significant. Analyses were performed using SPSS version 14.0.2 for Windows (SPSS Inc., Chicago, IL).

Results

TopAbstractIntroductionSubjects and MethodsResultsDiscussionReferences Human menstrual cycle The high-sodium balance group included 27 subjects [median age 30 yr (25–37 yr)], and the low-sodium balance group included 51 subjects [median age 33 yr (27–41 yr)]. Twenty-four subjects were studied in both high- and low-sodium balance. No significant differences in age, race, weight, or blood pressure were found between menstrual phases in either high- or low-sodium balance, except for younger median age (P = 0.048) in the low-sodium luteal vs. follicular group (Table 1). The majority (80%) of subjects were white.

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TABLE 1. Baseline characteristics, according to sodium balance and menstrual phase Consistent with the known effects of sodium balance on the RAS (22), subjects in low- vs. high-sodium balance had significantly greater (all P < 0.001) 24-h urinary aldosterone [78.8 µg/24 h (29.8–98.0) vs. 8.5 µg/24 h (6.8–16.9)], basal serum aldosterone [21.0 ng/dl (8.7–26.1) vs. 3.9 ng/dl (2.5–6.0)], serum aldosterone response to infused AngII [increase of 22.8 ng/dl (16.4–37.0) vs. 7.9 ng/dl (5.2–11.0)], and PRA [2.8 ng/ml·hr (1.6–4.2) vs. 0.4 ng/ml·hr (0.2–0.7)].

As per the prespecified definition of the luteal phase, progesterone levels were significantly greater (P < 0.001) in the luteal vs. follicular phase in both high-sodium [9.7 ng/ml (6.9–11.4) vs. 0.5 ng/ml (0.4–0.6)] and low-sodium [10.1 ng/ml (4.4–13.9) vs. 0.5 ng/ml (0.4–0.7)] balance. As expected, estradiol levels were also higher (P < 0.01) in the luteal vs. follicular phase in both high-sodium [79.5 pg/ml (55.5–119.1) vs. 29.4 pg/ml (18.9–48.2)] and low-sodium [63.9 pg/ml (41.6–97.3) vs. 37.1 pg/ml (21.8–57.9)] balance.

In high-sodium balance, 24-h urinary aldosterone excretion (P < 0.05), basal serum aldosterone levels (P < 0.05), and increase in serum aldosterone in response to infused AngII (P < 0.01) were all significantly greater in the luteal vs. follicular phase, but there were no significant differences between menstrual phases in 24-h urinary sodium excretion, PRA, or plasma AngII levels (Fig. 1). In low-sodium balance, there were no significant differences in luteal vs. follicular phase urinary aldosterone excretion, basal serum aldosterone levels, serum aldosterone response to infused AngII, urinary sodium excretion, PRA, or plasma AngII levels (Fig. 2). In both high- and low-sodium balance, there were no differences between phases in serum potassium levels, urinary creatinine, or basal and AngII-stimulated blood pressures (data not shown).

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FIG. 1. Follicular (white bars) vs. luteal (gray bars) 24-h urinary aldosterone levels (A), basal serum aldosterone levels (B), increase in serum aldosterone in response to infused AngII ©, 24-h urinary sodium levels (D), PRA (E), and plasma AngII levels (F) under conditions of high-sodium balance. Data are shown as median with interquartile range. Comparisons are between the follicular phase and the luteal phase. *, P < 0.05; **, P < 0.01. Twenty-four-hour urinary aldosterone excretion, basal serum aldosterone levels, and increase in serum aldosterone in response to infused AngII were all significantly greater in the luteal vs. follicular phase, but there were no significant differences between menstrual phases in urinary sodium excretion, PRA, or plasma AngII. Conversion factors for Système Internationale units: urinary aldosterone (nanomoles per day), 2.77; serum aldosterone (nanomoles per liter), 0.0277; PRA (nanograms per liter per second), 0.2778.

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FIG. 2. Follicular (white bars) vs. luteal (gray bars) 24-h urinary aldosterone levels (A), basal serum aldosterone levels (B), increase in serum aldosterone in response to infused AngII ©, 24-h urinary sodium levels (D), PRA (E), and plasma AngII levels (F) under conditions of low-sodium balance. Data are shown as median with interquartile range. There were no significant differences between the follicular phase and the luteal phase in any of these parameters under conditions of low-sodium balance. Conversion factors for Système Internationale units: urinary aldosterone (nanomoles per day), 2.77; serum aldosterone (nanomoles per liter), 0.0277; PRA (nanograms per liter per second), 0.2778. In high-sodium balance (where differences in aldosterone levels between menstrual phases were observed), progesterone was directly correlated with 24-h urinary aldosterone excretion (r = 0.646, P < 0.001), basal serum aldosterone (r = 0.363, P = 0.06), AngII-stimulated serum aldosterone (r = 0.631, P < 0.001), and an increase in serum aldosterone in response to infused AngII (r = 0.53, P = 0.004). There were no significant correlations between progesterone and either PRA or AngII. There were no significant correlations between estradiol and aldosterone levels (basal or stimulated). In low-sodium balance, there were no significant correlations between progesterone and aldosterone levels (basal or stimulated).

In vitro aldosterone production Incubating isolated ZG cells with progesterone significantly increased aldosterone production compared with incubation with vehicle alone (Fig. 3). Estradiol had no effect on aldosterone production, alone or in combination with progesterone.

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FIG. 3. Aldosterone production in vitro by isolated ZG cells incubated for 1 h with vehicle (Control), 50 ng/ml progesterone (Prog), 80 pg/ml estradiol (E2), or the combination (Prog + E2). Data are shown as mean ± SEM, n = 8 per treatment. *, P < 0.01 vs. control and E2 treatments. There was no significant difference between Prog and Prog + E2 treatments.

Discussion

TopAbstractIntroductionSubjects and MethodsResultsDiscussionReferences We have demonstrated that urinary and serum aldosterone levels as well as the increase in serum aldosterone in response to infused AngII are significantly greater in the luteal vs. follicular phase among women in high-sodium balance. Progesterone, but not estradiol, directly correlated with aldosterone levels under these conditions. In contrast, we found no differences in aldosterone levels between menstrual phases among women in low-sodium balance. Because we could not attribute the luteal phase aldosterone increase in high-sodium balance to increased circulating levels of PRA or AngII, we investigated in vitro whether progesterone or estradiol might directly influence aldosterone production. Addition of progesterone to isolated rat ZG cells caused a 2.8-fold increase in aldosterone production, whereas addition of estradiol had no effect. These data suggest that progesterone may directly influence adrenal aldosterone production and that this may be one mechanism underlying increased aldosterone production during physiological high-progesterone states.

Previous studies reported higher serum or urinary aldosterone levels during the luteal phase, but sodium intake was either not controlled (4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12) or not documented (13) in the majority of these studies. Since sodium intake, via modulation of the RAS, is a primary determinant of aldosterone production (22), it is difficult to interpret the findings of these earlier studies, because they may have been confounded by changes in sodium intake over the course of the menstrual cycle. Indeed, luteal phase salt restriction is often advised to ameliorate premenstrual symptoms (23, 24, 25), and a reduction in dietary sodium intake premenstrually could potentially increase luteal phase aldosterone levels. Consistent with our findings, two prior studies that controlled for sodium intake demonstrated increased luteal phase serum aldosterone levels in high-sodium balance (14, 15), but these studies did not explore the relationships between aldosterone levels and concentrations of progesterone or estradiol. Our study extends the findings of these prior studies in several ways. Most importantly, unlike these prior studies, we examined the relationships between both progesterone and estradiol concentrations and aldosterone levels. In addition, we report increased luteal phase urinary aldosterone excretion, which represents an integrated summation of aldosterone production over a 24-h period and is a more reliable indicator of overall aldosterone production. Finally, we rigorously controlled not only for sodium balance but also for prolonged supine posture before blood sampling to minimize confounding influences on RAS hormone levels.

In contrast to these two studies (14, 15) as well as many prior studies that did not control for sodium balance (4, 8, 10, 11, 12, 13), we did not find concurrent increases in PRA associated with increased luteal phase aldosterone levels. Therefore, our study is unique in that we observed PRA-independent luteal phase increases in aldosterone after rigorously controlling for both sodium balance and recumbent posture, which can confound measurement of PRA. We also demonstrated no difference between menstrual phases in plasma AngII levels, further supporting RAS-independent stimulation of aldosterone production during the luteal phase.

One prior study examined menstrual phase variation in aldosterone levels among subjects assigned to a low-sodium diet, and no differences in aldosterone levels between phases were found (14). In this study, however, the luteal vs. follicular group had a significantly higher mean urinary sodium excretion rate, which may have suppressed the RAS and prevented detection of a hormonally mediated aldosterone increase in the luteal group. In the current study, which was not confounded by differences in sodium balance, we found no significant differences in aldosterone levels between menstrual phases in low-sodium balance. Because sodium restriction is such a potent stimulus for activation of the RAS (22), any additional stimulation by progesterone or estradiol during the luteal phase is likely negligible under conditions of low-sodium balance.

Previous studies that accounted for dietary sodium intake did not investigate the relationships between progesterone, estradiol, and aldosterone levels (14, 15). Because both estradiol and progesterone increase during the luteal phase, both could potentially contribute to luteal phase increases in aldosterone. We think it unlikely that estradiol mediates this effect for several reasons. First, although oral estrogen use has been associated with changes in aldosterone plasma protein binding, these changes are not seen during the menstrual cycle (26). Similarly, increases in the AngII precursor angiotensinogen are seen with oral estrogen use (27) but not during the menstrual cycle (8, 27), and plasma AngII levels were not higher during the luteal phase in the current study. Second, estradiol levels did not correlate with aldosterone levels in our study. Lastly, estradiol did not increase aldosterone production by isolated ZG cells in vitro in the current study.

Increased luteal phase aldosterone levels are thought to result from increased progesterone, which has known antimineralocorticoid effects (1, 2, 3, 16). However, the relationships between aldosterone levels and concentrations of progesterone and estradiol during the menstrual cycle have not been previously examined among women in sodium balance. Progesterone administration to young men on a fixed-sodium diet led to natriuresis and increases in aldosterone, PRA, and AngII, and these changes were not observed when synthetic progestogens without antimineralocorticoid properties were administered (2). A small study that did not control for sodium intake found that urinary aldosterone excretion increased during the second half of the menstrual cycle only in women whose progesterone levels also increased (8). Our study is the first to demonstrate a direct correlation between progesterone and aldosterone levels among subjects in sodium balance. There are several possible mechanisms by which progesterone could influence aldosterone production. Progesterone is a competitive inhibitor of aldosterone at the mineralocorticoid receptor and has natriuretic properties in humans (1, 2) and rats (3). Therefore, progesterone-induced natriuresis likely leads to compensatory activation of the RAS during the luteal phase (6, 8, 9, 12, 17). However, if this were the only mechanism at work, PRA and AngII levels would be expected to increase concurrently with aldosterone, which was not seen in our study that was rigorously controlled for sodium balance and recumbent posture. It is also possible that progesterone-induced vasodilation (28) leads to RAS activation. However, as above, PRA and AngII would be expected to increase concurrently with aldosterone levels if this were the primary mechanism at work.

Because our data did not support a RAS-mediated increase in aldosterone during the luteal phase, we examined whether progesterone might directly influence adrenal aldosterone production. We showed that progesterone, at physiological concentrations, directly increases aldosterone production from isolated rat ZG cells. Our results are consistent with two prior studies showing that administration of oral micronized progesterone to women for 4–8 d increased serum aldosterone levels, but did not change PRA (29, 30) or plasma AngII (30). We believe that our results are complimentary to these prior studies, because the effects of exogenous hormone administration and endogenous hormone changes are often distinct. Studies performed over 30 yr ago showed that addition of fixed amounts of progesterone to the media of rat (31) and chicken (32) adrenal glands increased aldosterone production. However, it is not known whether physiological progesterone concentrations can effect these changes, because these studies did not control for or measure the progesterone concentration to which the adrenal tissue was exposed. We used a progesterone concentration known to be achieved in vivo during the rat estrous cycle (21) and showed that ZG cell aldosterone production is increased by physiological progesterone concentrations. Furthermore, we used isolated ZG cells instead of whole adrenal tissue. This technique allows for more efficient and controlled diffusion of treatments to the ZG cells and more direct evaluation of the impact of regulatory factors on ZG cell aldosterone production, because the secretory products of neighboring fasciculata and reticularis cells can influence glomerulosa cell aldosterone production (33, 34) and can confound results in experiments using whole adrenal tissue. Importantly, our study further demonstrated that estradiol, alone or in combination with progesterone, did not influence ZG cell aldosterone production in vitro, which has not been previously demonstrated. Progesterone receptor expression has been detected in adrenal capsular cells from female mice (35), raising the possibility that progesterone acts through its receptor to modulate aldosterone production. Alternatively, because progesterone is a precursor in the aldosterone biosynthetic pathway, increased substrate taken up by the adrenal cells may contribute in part to increased luteal phase aldosterone production. Progesterone may also increase aldosterone production in ways that have not yet been elucidated and require further study.

Our findings of increased luteal phase aldosterone levels in high-sodium balance may be physiologically relevant, because the average dietary sodium intake in the United States is approximately 150 mmol/d (36), similar to the urinary sodium levels achieved in our high-sodium balance study. The fluid retention that is seen during pregnancy and is variably observed during the luteal phase (37) is poorly understood. If progesterone led only to compensatory activation of the RAS via its antimineralocorticoid effects, then total body volume would be maintained but would not increase. However, if progesterone also independently stimulates aldosterone production, as our data suggest, then volume retention could occur. Furthermore, differences in progesterone production and adrenal sensitivity to progesterone could possibly contribute to variability in the degree of fluid retention observed among different individuals. Although PRA would be expected to decrease in response to increased aldosterone production and volume retention, it is possible that because progesterone simultaneously activates the RAS, the net effect of progesterone on PRA may be minimal.

Our findings may also shed light on the unexplained dissociation between aldosterone levels and PRA that is well described during pregnancy (38, 39, 40). The disproportionately greater increase in aldosterone levels relative to PRA during pregnancy is postulated to result from either increased adrenal sensitivity to AngII or nonangiotensin-mediated aldosterone release (39). Our results suggest that increased progesterone levels could possibly lead to both, because our study demonstrates enhanced serum aldosterone response to AngII infusion during the luteal phase as well as direct progesterone-induced stimulation of ZG cell aldosterone production. Further studies are needed to better define the progesterone-mediated changes in aldosterone production that occur during pregnancy.

Our study has limitations. Ideally we would have performed paired analyses of the same women in the follicular and luteal phases in both high- and low-sodium balance, but arranging four consecutive studies in sodium balance for each subject would have been logistically difficult. A prospective study confirming our results could be informative. In addition, it is possible that our sample size limited our ability to detect menstrual phase differences in aldosterone levels in low-sodium balance, because progesterone's effect on aldosterone production under these conditions may be small relative to the effect of sodium restriction. Because high-sodium intake reduces PRA to levels close to the lower limit of detection of our assay, it is possible that small differences in PRA between phases may have been undetectable in high-sodium balance. As this study included only normotensive, premenopausal women who were predominantly white, the results may not be applicable to hypertensive women or women of other ethnicities.

In conclusion, we have shown that both urinary and serum aldosterone levels are significantly greater during the luteal phase among subjects in high- but not low-sodium balance. In high-sodium balance, aldosterone levels directly correlated with progesterone but not estradiol levels. In contrast to prior studies (4, 8, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15), the increased luteal phase aldosterone levels observed in our study were independent of increases in PRA. Our study provides in vitro evidence that progesterone directly stimulates ZG cell aldosterone production. Together these data suggest that progesterone may directly contribute to increased adrenal aldosterone production during the luteal phase, particularly when the RAS is suppressed by normal or high sodium intake.

Acknowledgments We acknowledge the assistance of Laine Murphey, M.D., Ph.D., of Vanderbilt University Medical Center, in studying some of the subjects.

Footnotes This work was supported by National Institutes of Health Grants GCRCs M01-RR02635, M01-RR00095, RO1-HL-67332, RO1-AR-43130, SCOR P50-HL55000, and K24 RR0186-13-01.

Disclosure statement: The authors have nothing to disclose.

First Published Online July 25, 2006

Abbreviations: AngII, Angiotensin II; KRBGA, Krebs-Ringer bicarbonate solution; PRA, plasma renin activity; RAS, renin-angiotensin system; ZG, zona glomerulosa.

Received May 30, 2006. Accepted July 19, 2006.

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> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> Hi everyone, just joined today. Thanks to all of you for this > > > support!> > > >>> > > >> I tested high for aldosterone two years ago through a urine test. > > > My ND at the time was not concerned, he thought it was due to the > > > fact that I was a runner. I also thought that made since and was > > > also following a low salt diet. So we ignored it.> > > >>> > > >> I am treAting a thyroid issue, thyroid hormone resistance, and > > > through recent blood work tested high for aldosterone again. This > > > time I decided not to ignore it!> > > >>> > > >> I do not have a high blood pressure. It runs pretty normal to > > > low. I don't have issues with potassium. This is all Very confusing > > > as to why I have high aldosterone.> > > >>> > > >> I am trying to get into a endocrinologist but will take about > > > three months. I need some education and advise on where to start.> > > >>> > > >> I don't even know if this is primary or secondary.> > > >>> > > >> My only real "health" issue, that I know about, has been hair > > > loss. This was one reason for exploring the thyroid but I am > > > wondering if it has been the aldosterone all along. Maybe the > > > aldosterone is what's causing my thyroid issues.> > > >>> > > >> Any comments or advice would be greatly appreciated.> > > >>> > > >> My labs:> > > >>> > > >> 9/26/2008> > > >> Aldosterone (urine)> > > >> High 54.3. (normal diet 6-25, low salt 17-44, high salt0-6)> > > >>> > > >> Other adrenal hormones were fine at that time. Cortisol was > > > pretty middle of the road. *Progesterone however was really high > > > too. I can post if necessary.> > > >>> > > >> Rbc potassium 7/14/2010> > > >> 97. (90-111)> > > >>> > > >> Blood aldosterone 7/18/2010> > > >> 52.0. (1-16)> > > >>> > > >> Blood aldosterone/renin 6/30/2010> > > >> Aldosterone 49. (1-16)> > > >> Renin. 3.3. (random ambulatory 0.8-2.5, non ambulatory 1.5-5.2)> > > >> I was sitting, fasting, taking two hours after waking before/ > > > around 8am> > > >>> > > >> Aldosterone renin ratio = 15> > > >>> > > >> Sodium. 138. (135-145)> > > >> Potassium. 4.5. (3.5-5.3)> > > >> Chloride. 106. (98-109)> > > >> Co2. 23. (22-31)> > > >> Anion gap. 9. (5-16)> > > >>> > > >> Saliva cortisol 5/23/2010> > > >> 7am. 3.7. (3.7-9.5)> > > >> 11am. 1.6. (1.2-3.0)> > > >> 5pm. 1.3. (0.6-1.9)> > > >> 9pm. 0.5. (0.4-1.0)> > > >>> > > >> Rbc magnesium 5/26/2010> > > >> 4.2. (4.0-6.4)> > > >>> > > >> Lot of test!!!!> > > >>> > > >> Thanks again for your kind support! Suzanne> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> >>

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Good luck with that one-HA!

I live in a real small town in the NW part of the country and I believe that is why this has gone on for so long ! I've seen doctor after doctor with little help and lots of frustration!

But you can give it a shot. I live in Whitefish, Montana. I am in the NW corner of the state about 60 miles from the Canadian border. Absolute beautiful place to live but not to seek medical advice.

To: hyperaldosteronism Sent: Fri, September 17, 2010 9:28:54 AMSubject: Re: High aldosterone

If you can tell us where you live and what medical centers are near you Dr Grim may know someone there.> >> > >> > >> Hi everyone, just joined today. Thanks to all of you for this support!> >> > >> I tested high for aldosterone two years ago through a urine test. My ND at the time was not concerned, he thought it was due to the fact that I was a runner. I also thought that made since and was also following a low salt diet. So we ignored it.> >> > >> I am treAting a thyroid issue, thyroid hormone resistance, and through recent blood work tested high for aldosterone

again. This time I decided not to ignore it! > >> > >> I do not have a high blood pressure. It runs pretty normal to low. I don't have issues with potassium. This is all Very confusing as to why I have high aldosterone.> >> > >> I am trying to get into a endocrinologist but will take about three months. I need some education and advise on where to start.> >> > >> I don't even know if this is primary or secondary.> >> > >> My only real "health" issue, that I know about, has been hair loss. This was one reason for exploring the thyroid but I am wondering if it has been the aldosterone all along. Maybe the aldosterone is what's causing my thyroid issues.> >> > >> Any comments or advice would be greatly appreciated.> >> > >> My labs:> >> > >> 9/26/2008> >>

Aldosterone (urine)> >> High 54.3. (normal diet 6-25, low salt 17-44, high salt0-6)> >> > >> Other adrenal hormones were fine at that time. Cortisol was pretty middle of the road. *Progesterone however was really high too. I can post if necessary.> >> > >> Rbc potassium 7/14/2010> >> 97. (90-111)> >> > >> Blood aldosterone 7/18/2010> >> 52.0. (1-16)> >> > >> Blood aldosterone/renin 6/30/2010> >> Aldosterone 49. (1-16)> >> Renin. 3.3. (random ambulatory 0.8-2.5, non ambulatory 1.5-5.2)> >> I was sitting, fasting, taking two hours after waking before/around 8am> >> > >> Aldosterone renin ratio = 15> >> > >> Sodium. 138. (135-145)> >> Potassium. 4.5. (3.5-5.3)> >> Chloride. 106. (98-109)>

>> Co2. 23. (22-31)> >> Anion gap. 9. (5-16)> >> > >> Saliva cortisol 5/23/2010> >> 7am. 3.7. (3.7-9.5)> >> 11am. 1.6. (1.2-3.0)> >> 5pm. 1.3. (0.6-1.9)> >> 9pm. 0.5. (0.4-1.0)> >> > >> Rbc magnesium 5/26/2010> >> 4.2. (4.0-6.4)> >> > >> Lot of test!!!!> >> > >> Thanks again for your kind support! Suzanne> >>> >> >>

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Google it and tell me what you find. I believe I found a lot of info connecting the two when I was looking.

To: "hyperaldosteronism " <hyperaldosteronism >Sent: Fri, September 17, 2010 10:06:02 AMSubject: Re: Re: High aldosterone

This is the first that I hear of runners testing high Aldosterone. Perhaps a subject to research on. I used to be a runner too and no one considered it when I was diagnosed. I no longer run now as an athlete but still test high Aldosterone and bp.

FarahSent from my iPhone

I was running a lot when the first test was done. My doctor did ignore than because of the running. Runners do typically have high aldosterone.

However, I took a break from running this yeAr and still testing high.Sent from my iPad

Could her ALDO be high just because she is doing a lot of running?> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> Hi everyone, just joined today. Thanks to all of you for this > > > support!> > > >>> > > >> I tested high for aldosterone two years ago through a urine test. > > > My ND at the time was not concerned, he thought it was due to the > > > fact that I was a runner. I also thought that made since and was >

> > also following a low salt diet. So we ignored it.> > > >>> > > >> I am treAting a thyroid issue, thyroid hormone resistance, and > > > through recent blood work tested high for aldosterone again. This > > > time I decided not to ignore it!> > > >>> > > >> I do not have a high blood pressure. It runs pretty normal to > > > low. I don't have issues with potassium. This is all Very confusing > > > as to why I have high aldosterone.> > > >>> > > >> I am trying to get into a endocrinologist but will take about > > > three months. I need some education and advise on where to start.> > > >>> > > >> I don't even know if this is primary or secondary.> > > >>> > > >> My only real "health" issue, that I

know about, has been hair > > > loss. This was one reason for exploring the thyroid but I am > > > wondering if it has been the aldosterone all along. Maybe the > > > aldosterone is what's causing my thyroid issues.> > > >>> > > >> Any comments or advice would be greatly appreciated.> > > >>> > > >> My labs:> > > >>> > > >> 9/26/2008> > > >> Aldosterone (urine)> > > >> High 54.3. (normal diet 6-25, low salt 17-44, high salt0-6)> > > >>> > > >> Other adrenal hormones were fine at that time. Cortisol was > > > pretty middle of the road. *Progesterone however was really high > > > too. I can post if necessary.> > > >>> > > >> Rbc potassium 7/14/2010> > >

>> 97. (90-111)> > > >>> > > >> Blood aldosterone 7/18/2010> > > >> 52.0. (1-16)> > > >>> > > >> Blood aldosterone/renin 6/30/2010> > > >> Aldosterone 49. (1-16)> > > >> Renin. 3.3. (random ambulatory 0.8-2.5, non ambulatory 1.5-5.2)> > > >> I was sitting, fasting, taking two hours after waking before/ > > > around 8am> > > >>> > > >> Aldosterone renin ratio = 15> > > >>> > > >> Sodium. 138. (135-145)> > > >> Potassium. 4.5. (3.5-5.3)> > > >> Chloride. 106. (98-109)> > > >> Co2. 23. (22-31)> > > >> Anion gap. 9. (5-16)> > > >>> > > >> Saliva cortisol 5/23/2010> > > >> 7am. 3.7.

(3.7-9.5)> > > >> 11am. 1.6. (1.2-3.0)> > > >> 5pm. 1.3. (0.6-1.9)> > > >> 9pm. 0.5. (0.4-1.0)> > > >>> > > >> Rbc magnesium 5/26/2010> > > >> 4.2. (4.0-6.4)> > > >>> > > >> Lot of test!!!!> > > >>> > > >> Thanks again for your kind support! Suzanne> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> >>

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Why does this say that spironolactone will increase blood levels of aldosterone? Isn't spironolactone a aldosterone anagonist?

Is is because the spiro is blocking the aldo in the tissues, therefor creating more in the blood?

To: hyperaldosteronism Sent: Fri, September 17, 2010 11:24:21 AMSubject: Re: High aldosterone

From Webmd Aldosterone in BloodWhat Affects the TestReasons you may not be able to have the test or why the results may not be helpful include:Eating large amounts of natural black licorice.Pregnancy. Aldosterone levels may be high in the third trimester of pregnancy.Taking medicines, such as female hormones (progesterone and estrogen), corticosteroids, heparin, opiates, laxatives, nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs), or diuretics. Most medicines used to treat high blood pressure, especially spironolactone (Aldactone), eplerenone (Inspra), and beta-blockers, increase blood levels of aldosterone and renin.Exercising hard or being under emotional stress.Your age. Aldosterone levels normally decrease with age.> >>> > > > >>> >>> > > > >>> >>> > > > >> Hi everyone, just joined today. Thanks to all of you for > >>> this> >>> > > > support!> >>> > > > >>> >>> > >

> >> I tested high for aldosterone two years ago through a > >>> urine test.> >>> > > > My ND at the time was not concerned, he thought it was due > >>> to the> >>> > > > fact that I was a runner. I also thought that made since and > >>> was> >>> > > > also following a low salt diet. So we ignored it.> >>> > > > >>> >>> > > > >> I am treAting a thyroid issue, thyroid hormone > >>> resistance, and> >>> > > > through recent blood work tested high for aldosterone again. > >>> This> >>> > > > time I decided not to ignore it!> >>> > > > >>> >>> > > > >> I do not have a high blood pressure. It runs pretty > >>>

normal to> >>> > > > low. I don't have issues with potassium. This is all Very > >>> confusing> >>> > > > as to why I have high aldosterone.> >>> > > > >>> >>> > > > >> I am trying to get into a endocrinologist but will take > >>> about> >>> > > > three months. I need some education and advise on where to > >>> start.> >>> > > > >>> >>> > > > >> I don't even know if this is primary or secondary.> >>> > > > >>> >>> > > > >> My only real "health" issue, that I know about, has been > >>> hair> >>> > > > loss. This was one reason for exploring the thyroid but I am> >>> > > > wondering if

it has been the aldosterone all along. Maybe the> >>> > > > aldosterone is what's causing my thyroid issues.> >>> > > > >>> >>> > > > >> Any comments or advice would be greatly appreciated.> >>> > > > >>> >>> > > > >> My labs:> >>> > > > >>> >>> > > > >> 9/26/2008> >>> > > > >> Aldosterone (urine)> >>> > > > >> High 54.3. (normal diet 6-25, low salt 17-44, high salt0-6)> >>> > > > >>> >>> > > > >> Other adrenal hormones were fine at that time. Cortisol was> >>> > > > pretty middle of the road. *Progesterone however was really > >>> high> >>> > > > too. I can

post if necessary.> >>> > > > >>> >>> > > > >> Rbc potassium 7/14/2010> >>> > > > >> 97. (90-111)> >>> > > > >>> >>> > > > >> Blood aldosterone 7/18/2010> >>> > > > >> 52.0. (1-16)> >>> > > > >>> >>> > > > >> Blood aldosterone/renin 6/30/2010> >>> > > > >> Aldosterone 49. (1-16)> >>> > > > >> Renin. 3.3. (random ambulatory 0.8-2.5, non ambulatory > >>> 1.5-5.2)> >>> > > > >> I was sitting, fasting, taking two hours after waking > >>> before/> >>> > > > around 8am> >>> > > > >>> >>> > > > >> Aldosterone

renin ratio = 15> >>> > > > >>> >>> > > > >> Sodium. 138. (135-145)> >>> > > > >> Potassium. 4.5. (3.5-5.3)> >>> > > > >> Chloride. 106. (98-109)> >>> > > > >> Co2. 23. (22-31)> >>> > > > >> Anion gap. 9. (5-16)> >>> > > > >>> >>> > > > >> Saliva cortisol 5/23/2010> >>> > > > >> 7am. 3.7. (3.7-9.5)> >>> > > > >> 11am. 1.6. (1.2-3.0)> >>> > > > >> 5pm. 1.3. (0.6-1.9)> >>> > > > >> 9pm. 0.5. (0.4-1.0)> >>> > > > >>> >>> > > > >> Rbc magnesium 5/26/2010> >>> > > > >> 4.2. (4.0-6.4)>

>>> > > > >>> >>> > > > >> Lot of test!!!!> >>> > > > >>> >>> > > > >> Thanks again for your kind support! Suzanne> >>> > > > >>> >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> >>> >> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >>

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i live in a sub-urb of Houston TX called the Woodlands. its about 50miles north of the dwntwn med center. thank you all for caring & your help...i really need it! Kristi (Kris) Mondry RN, BSN

To: hyperaldosteronism Sent: Fri, September 17, 2010 10:28:54 AMSubject: Re: High aldosterone

If you can tell us where you live and what medical centers are near you Dr Grim may know someone there.> >> > >> > >> Hi everyone, just joined today. Thanks to all of you for this support!> >> > >> I tested high for aldosterone two years ago through a urine test. My ND at the time was not concerned, he thought it was due to the fact that I was a runner. I also thought that made since and was also following a low salt diet. So we ignored it.> >> > >> I am treAting a thyroid issue, thyroid hormone resistance, and through recent blood work tested high for aldosterone

again. This time I decided not to ignore it! > >> > >> I do not have a high blood pressure. It runs pretty normal to low. I don't have issues with potassium. This is all Very confusing as to why I have high aldosterone.> >> > >> I am trying to get into a endocrinologist but will take about three months. I need some education and advise on where to start.> >> > >> I don't even know if this is primary or secondary.> >> > >> My only real "health" issue, that I know about, has been hair loss. This was one reason for exploring the thyroid but I am wondering if it has been the aldosterone all along. Maybe the aldosterone is what's causing my thyroid issues.> >> > >> Any comments or advice would be greatly appreciated.> >> > >> My labs:> >> > >> 9/26/2008> >>

Aldosterone (urine)> >> High 54.3. (normal diet 6-25, low salt 17-44, high salt0-6)> >> > >> Other adrenal hormones were fine at that time. Cortisol was pretty middle of the road. *Progesterone however was really high too. I can post if necessary.> >> > >> Rbc potassium 7/14/2010> >> 97. (90-111)> >> > >> Blood aldosterone 7/18/2010> >> 52.0. (1-16)> >> > >> Blood aldosterone/renin 6/30/2010> >> Aldosterone 49. (1-16)> >> Renin. 3.3. (random ambulatory 0.8-2.5, non ambulatory 1.5-5.2)> >> I was sitting, fasting, taking two hours after waking before/around 8am> >> > >> Aldosterone renin ratio = 15> >> > >> Sodium. 138. (135-145)> >> Potassium. 4.5. (3.5-5.3)> >> Chloride. 106. (98-109)>

>> Co2. 23. (22-31)> >> Anion gap. 9. (5-16)> >> > >> Saliva cortisol 5/23/2010> >> 7am. 3.7. (3.7-9.5)> >> 11am. 1.6. (1.2-3.0)> >> 5pm. 1.3. (0.6-1.9)> >> 9pm. 0.5. (0.4-1.0)> >> > >> Rbc magnesium 5/26/2010> >> 4.2. (4.0-6.4)> >> > >> Lot of test!!!!> >> > >> Thanks again for your kind support! Suzanne> >>> >> >>

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They have the BB info backwards. They decrease renin and aldo.I have had several issues with the accuracy of WebMD stuff. Have sent them messages but never get anything back. As they say you gets what you pays for.CE Grim MDOn Sep 17, 2010, at 12:24 PM, Francis Bill SUSPECTED PA wrote:From Webmd Aldosterone in BloodWhat Affects the TestReasons you may not be able to have the test or why the results may not be helpful include:Eating large amounts of natural black licorice.Pregnancy. Aldosterone levels may be high in the third trimester of pregnancy.Taking medicines, such as female hormones (progesterone and estrogen), corticosteroids, heparin, opiates, laxatives, nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs), or diuretics. Most medicines used to treat high blood pressure, especially spironolactone (Aldactone), eplerenone (Inspra), and beta-blockers, increase blood levels of aldosterone and renin.Exercising hard or being under emotional stress.Your age. Aldosterone levels normally decrease with age.> >>> > > > >>> >>> > > > >>> >>> > > > >> Hi everyone, just joined today. Thanks to all of you for > >>> this> >>> > > > support!> >>> > > > >>> >>> > > > >> I tested high for aldosterone two years ago through a > >>> urine test.> >>> > > > My ND at the time was not concerned, he thought it was due > >>> to the> >>> > > > fact that I was a runner. I also thought that made since and > >>> was> >>> > > > also following a low salt diet. So we ignored it.> >>> > > > >>> >>> > > > >> I am treAting a thyroid issue, thyroid hormone > >>> resistance, and> >>> > > > through recent blood work tested high for aldosterone again. > >>> This> >>> > > > time I decided not to ignore it!> >>> > > > >>> >>> > > > >> I do not have a high blood pressure. It runs pretty > >>> normal to> >>> > > > low. I don't have issues with potassium. This is all Very > >>> confusing> >>> > > > as to why I have high aldosterone.> >>> > > > >>> >>> > > > >> I am trying to get into a endocrinologist but will take > >>> about> >>> > > > three months. I need some education and advise on where to > >>> start.> >>> > > > >>> >>> > > > >> I don't even know if this is primary or secondary.> >>> > > > >>> >>> > > > >> My only real "health" issue, that I know about, has been > >>> hair> >>> > > > loss. This was one reason for exploring the thyroid but I am> >>> > > > wondering if it has been the aldosterone all along. Maybe the> >>> > > > aldosterone is what's causing my thyroid issues.> >>> > > > >>> >>> > > > >> Any comments or advice would be greatly appreciated.> >>> > > > >>> >>> > > > >> My labs:> >>> > > > >>> >>> > > > >> 9/26/2008> >>> > > > >> Aldosterone (urine)> >>> > > > >> High 54.3. (normal diet 6-25, low salt 17-44, high salt0-6)> >>> > > > >>> >>> > > > >> Other adrenal hormones were fine at that time. Cortisol was> >>> > > > pretty middle of the road. *Progesterone however was really > >>> high> >>> > > > too. I can post if necessary.> >>> > > > >>> >>> > > > >> Rbc potassium 7/14/2010> >>> > > > >> 97. (90-111)> >>> > > > >>> >>> > > > >> Blood aldosterone 7/18/2010> >>> > > > >> 52.0. (1-16)> >>> > > > >>> >>> > > > >> Blood aldosterone/renin 6/30/2010> >>> > > > >> Aldosterone 49. (1-16)> >>> > > > >> Renin. 3.3. (random ambulatory 0.8-2.5, non ambulatory > >>> 1.5-5.2)> >>> > > > >> I was sitting, fasting, taking two hours after waking > >>> before/> >>> > > > around 8am> >>> > > > >>> >>> > > > >> Aldosterone renin ratio = 15> >>> > > > >>> >>> > > > >> Sodium. 138. (135-145)> >>> > > > >> Potassium. 4.5. (3.5-5.3)> >>> > > > >> Chloride. 106. (98-109)> >>> > > > >> Co2. 23. (22-31)> >>> > > > >> Anion gap. 9. (5-16)> >>> > > > >>> >>> > > > >> Saliva cortisol 5/23/2010> >>> > > > >> 7am. 3.7. (3.7-9.5)> >>> > > > >> 11am. 1.6. (1.2-3.0)> >>> > > > >> 5pm. 1.3. (0.6-1.9)> >>> > > > >> 9pm. 0.5. (0.4-1.0)> >>> > > > >>> >>> > > > >> Rbc magnesium 5/26/2010> >>> > > > >> 4.2. (4.0-6.4)> >>> > > > >>> >>> > > > >> Lot of test!!!!> >>> > > > >>> >>> > > > >> Thanks again for your kind support! Suzanne> >>> > > > >>> >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> >>> >> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >>

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