Re: a question for women in the group

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Mine goes in stops and starts, depending on my thyroid

status. I’ve been losing a

lot lately, probably because of the antibiotics I’m on.

Val

From: hyperaldosteronism

[mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of a Hall

Speaking

of baldness, is anybody else here losing their hair besides me?

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Thanks for answering, Val. In the past year I think I've lost half of what I used to have on the top of my head and now I seem to be losing it all over my head. I went to my PCP a couple of weeks ago to see if he could find a medical cause for it and he just blew me off, told me I was worrying about it too much. I told him I didn't think worrying was inappropriate since his hair is thicker than mine now. I had him check my thyroid again since my skin is also extremely dry and I'm tired all the time. He called last week and said my T3 & T4 were WNL but my TSH was in the lowest range of normal. He wants me to try .25 mcg levothyroxine and see if I can tell a difference. I looked it up and that seems to be a sub-therapeutic dose, so obviously he's just placating me. I'm not feeling love for him right

now.

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Subject: RE: a question for women in the groupTo: hyperaldosteronism Date: Friday, May 28, 2010, 8:32 PM

Mine goes in stops and starts, depending on my thyroid status. I’ve been losing a lot lately, probably because of the antibiotics I’m on.

Val

From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of a Hall

Speaking of baldness, is anybody else here losing their hair besides me?

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You might want to search androgenic steroids.

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i am. But due to genes.CE Grim MDSpeaking of baldness, is anybody else here losing their hair besides me?

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Mine might be genetic too. My father was bald from the time I can remember him and my mother had very thin hair when she died. But this has happened so quickly that I thought maybe there could be a physical or medical reason for it. My first thought was the spiro, since they also give it for hirsutism in women. But it seems spiro is one of the medications they're prescribing for womens hair loss now as it blocks DHT. So I've been taking .25 mcg levothyroxine for about a week now, which from what I've read is a sub-therapeutic dose. I can tell no difference except that I feel hungry all the time, even right after I eat. He didn't even tell me to come back and have my levels checked again. Grrrr...

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Speaking of baldness, is anybody else here losing their hair besides me?

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25 mcg is hardly anything.

Did he do Free T3 and Free T4, and TSH before prescribing? If so, where are they? I’ve never see a thyroid literate

doctor but I’m sure they exist somewhere.

Val

From: hyperaldosteronism

[mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of a Hall

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I've been taking .25 mcg levothyroxine for about a

week now, which from what I've read is a sub-therapeutic dose.

I can tell no difference except that I feel hungry all the time,

even right after I eat. He didn't even tell me to come back and

have my levels checked again. Grrrr...

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The question is beside PA what one of several abnormalities in the adrenal

glands can the tumor cause? Doesn't seen to be much about this except if the

tumor is malignant. Couldn't a benign tumor also make more then excess hormone?

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Speaking of baldness, is anybody else here losing their hair besides me?

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So could increase male hormones in women. This could be off set some by sprio.

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He called me with results, I haven't gotten a copy yet. He said free T3 and free T4 were "good" but TSH was in low normal range. I'm pretty sure he said the low normal was .5 and that's what I was.

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Subject: RE: a question for women in the groupTo: hyperaldosteronism Date: Saturday, May 29, 2010, 10:04 AM

25 mcg is hardly anything. Did he do Free T3 and Free T4, and TSH before prescribing? If so, where are they? I’ve never see a thyroid literate doctor but I’m sure they exist somewhere.

Val

From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of a Hall

So I've been taking .25 mcg levothyroxine for about a week now, which from what I've read is a sub-therapeutic dose. I can tell no difference except that I feel hungry all the time, even right after I eat. He didn't even tell me to come back and have my levels checked again. Grrrr...

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I understand that you have PA. As stated by Dr Grim tumor might cause other

hormones to be high. If your tumor over doing the male hormones this could make

to lose hair on head. Also you might notice other changes. By being on sprio

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As an old endo I would say your thyroid and control system is working well what was the rational for giving thyroid?Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension

He called me with results, I haven't gotten a copy yet. He said free T3 and free T4 were "good" but TSH was in low normal range. I'm pretty sure he said the low normal was .5 and that's what I was.

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Subject: RE: a question for women in the groupTo: hyperaldosteronism Date: Saturday, May 29, 2010, 10:04 AM

25 mcg is hardly anything. Did he do Free T3 and Free T4, and TSH before prescribing? If so, where are they? I’ve never see a thyroid literate doctor but I’m sure they exist somewhere.

Val

From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of a Hall

So I've been taking .25 mcg levothyroxine for about a week now, which from what I've read is a sub-therapeutic dose. I can tell no difference except that I feel hungry all the time, even right after I eat. He didn't even tell me to come back and have my levels checked again. Grrrr...

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I have this problem too. My tsh is low and my T4 is 13.2 (12-22) t3 3.5 (4-6.5) tsh: o.68I've had a couple of doctors say my thyroids a bit low but most recent answer has been "but you are small"???!!!! Surely your height doesn't mean you don't need thyroid more in range..So frustrating when you can't function and your lifes stopped. mandSent using BlackBerry® from OrangeDate: Sun, 30 May 2010 00:13:01 -0600To: <hyperaldosteronism >Subject: RE: a question for women in the group I have no faith in docs understanding thyroid.  What exactly are your results for FREE T3 andFREE T4?  With their respective ranges.  Also TSH. If your TSH is in the lowest of range, that’s more HYPER than HYPO.  “WNL†means nothing to me because they don’tunderstand what normal means. Val From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of a Hall Thanksfor answering, Val. In the past year I think I've lost half of what Iused to have on the top of my head and now I seem to be losing it all over myhead. I went to my PCP a couple of weeks ago to see if he could find amedical cause for it and he just blew me off, told me I was worrying about ittoo much. I told him I didn't think worrying was inappropriate sincehis hair is thicker than mine now. I had him check my thyroidagain since my skin is also extremely dry and I'm tired all the time. Hecalled last week and said my T3 & T4 were WNL but my TSH was in thelowest range of normal. He wants me to try .25 mcg levothyroxine andsee if I can tell a difference. I looked it up and that seems to be asub-therapeutic dose, so obviously he's just placating me. I'm notfeeling love for him right now. a

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I would guess that just like ALDO other hormones wouldn't have to be outside of

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Can you tell me where you order it from or what a good price is? Email me directly if you'd rather, shahall@...

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25 mcg is hardly anything. Did he do Free T3 and Free T4, and TSH before prescribing? If so, where are they? I’ve never see a thyroid literate doctor but I’m sure they exist somewhere.

From: hyperaldosteronism@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:hyperaldost eronism ] On Behalf Of a Hall

So I've been taking .25 mcg levothyroxine for about a week now, which from what I've read is a sub-therapeutic dose. I can tell no difference except that I feel hungry all the time, even right after I eat. He didn't even tell me to come back and have my levels checked again. Grrrr...

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Please read rhe Women's Health Initative studies on hormone replacement studies. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension

He's placating me. I wanted to go back on premarin to see it that helped, as my problems seemed to have worsened considerably since stopping it about 1 year ago. He doesn't want me to go back on it and suggested trying this. Personally, I think it's BS. I'll give it a try for a couple of months and if I see or feel no difference I'll stop. I might have to drive to Detroit and see if the guys on the corner are selling any black market premarin ;-)

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Subject: RE: [hyperaldosteronism ] a question for women in the groupTo: hyperaldosteronism@ yahoogroups. comDate: Saturday, May 29, 2010, 10:04 AM

25 mcg is hardly anything. Did he do Free T3 and Free T4, and TSH before prescribing? If so, where are they? I’ve never see a thyroid literate doctor but I’m sure they exist somewhere.

Val From: hyperaldosteronism@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:hyperaldost eronism ] On Behalf Of a Hall

So I've been taking .25 mcg levothyroxine for about a week now, which from what I've read is a sub-therapeutic dose. I can tell no difference except that I feel hungry all the time, even right after I eat. He didn't even tell me to come back and have my levels checked again. Grrrr...

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This is what he cited as a reason for taking me off it. But if I read it right the results only applied to estrogen + progesterone HRT, not estrogen alone.

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Subject: RE: [hyperaldosteronism ] a question for women in the groupTo: hyperaldosteronism@ yahoogroups. comDate: Saturday, May 29, 2010, 10:04 AM

25 mcg is hardly anything. Did he do Free T3 and Free T4, and TSH before prescribing? If so, where are they? I’ve never see a thyroid literate doctor but I’m sure they exist somewhere.

Val

From: hyperaldosteronism@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:hyperaldost eronism ] On Behalf Of a Hall

So I've been taking .25 mcg levothyroxine for about a week now, which from what I've read is a sub-therapeutic dose. I can tell no difference except that I feel hungry all the time, even right after I eat. He didn't even tell me to come back and have my levels checked again. Grrrr...

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The WWI found a very slight

decrease in breast cancer with horse pee only (Premarin).  It found a very, very slight increase with

horse pee + synthetic progestin (Provera). 

The biggest problem found, and I’ve read this elsewhere, is an increase

in stoke risk for women who go many years without estrogen after meno, and then

start on it years later.  No good

studies, as far as I know, have been done with bioidentical estradiol and

bioidentical progesterone.  I can’t

believe they are still doing studies on conjugated estrogens and synthetic

progestins.  I guess it is $$$.

I read somewhere the other day

that female physicians have a higher rate of estrogen use than they prescribe

for their patients.  Can’t remember where

I read that though.

Val

From: hyperaldosteronism

[mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of a Hall

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is what he cited as a reason for taking me off it. But if I read it

right the results only applied to estrogen + progesterone HRT, not estrogen

alone.

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read rhe Women's Health Initative

studies on hormone replacement studies.

He's

placating me. I wanted to go back on premarin

to see it that helped, as my problems seemed to have worsened considerably

since stopping it about 1 year ago. He doesn't want me to go back on

it and suggested trying this. Personally, I think it's BS. I'll

give it a try for a couple of months and if I see or feel no

difference I'll stop. I might have to drive to Detroit and see if the

guys on the corner are selling any black market premarin

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25 mcg is hardly

anything. Did he do Free T3 and Free T4, and TSH before

prescribing? If so, where are they? I’ve never see a thyroid

literate doctor but I’m sure they exist somewhere.

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This is a study that revolutionized the practice of medicine. It over turned the 40 year standard that horse urine estrogens prevented heart disease in women and protected bones. This have been based on hearsay evidence and best medicine judgement till this trail demonstrated inceased risk of stroke and no benefit. So likely millions saved not to mention the $ saved and the poor horses. CE Grim The WWI found a very slight decrease in breast cancer with horse pee only (Premarin). It found a very, very slight increase with horse pee + synthetic progestin (Provera). The biggest problem found, and I’ve read this elsewhere, is an increase in stoke risk for women who go many years without estrogen after meno, and then start on it years later. No good studies, as far as I know, have been done with bioidentical estradiol and bioidentical progesterone. I can’t believe they are still doing studies on conjugated estrogens and synthetic progestins. I guess it is $$$. I read somewhere the other day that female physicians have a higher rate of estrogen use than they prescribe for their patients. Can’t remember where I read that though. Val From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of a Hall This is what he cited as a reason for taking me off it. But if I read it right the results only applied to estrogen + progesterone HRT, not estrogen alone. aFrom: Clarence Grim <lowerbp2mac>Please read rhe Women's Health Initative studies on hormone replacement studies. On May 30, 2010, at 8:45 AM, a Hall <shahall> wrote: He's placating me. I wanted to go back on premarin to see it that helped, as my problems seemed to have worsened considerably since stopping it about 1 year ago. He doesn't want me to go back on it and suggested trying this. Personally, I think it's BS. I'll give it a try for a couple of months and if I see or feel no difference I'll stop. I might have to drive to Detroit and see if the guys on the corner are selling any black market premarin ;-) a 25 mcg is hardly anything. Did he do Free T3 and Free T4, and TSH before prescribing? If so, where are they? I’ve never see a thyroid literate doctor but I’m sure they exist somewhere.

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Well that trial has not been done yet. I think they are working on it. Short term may be OK but as with life a gamble.CEThis is what he cited as a reason for taking me off it. But if I read it right the results only applied to estrogen + progesterone HRT, not estrogen alone. aSubject: RE: [hyperaldosteronism ] a question for women in the groupTo: hyperaldosteronism@ yahoogroups. comDate: Saturday, May 29, 2010, 10:04 AM25 mcg is hardly anything. Did he do Free T3 and Free T4, and TSH before prescribing? If so, where are they? I’ve never see a thyroid literate doctor but I’m sure they exist somewhere. Val From: hyperaldosteronism@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:hyperaldost eronism ] On Behalf Of a Hall So I've been taking .25 mcg levothyroxine for about a week now, which from what I've read is a sub-therapeutic dose. I can tell no difference except that I feel hungry all the time, even right after I eat. He didn't even tell me to come back and have my levels checked again. Grrrr... a

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When they say thyroid is low, do they mean FREE T3 and FREE T4,

or do they mean TSH?  They move in

opposite direction.  If you’re taking a

T4 synthetic, that might have something to do with your life stopping.

Val

From: hyperaldosteronism

[mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of moseleymand@...

I have this problem too. My tsh is

low and my T4 is 13.2 (12-22) t3 3.5 (4-6.5) tsh:

o.68

I've had a couple of doctors say my thyroids a bit low but most recent answer

has been " but you are small " ???!!!! Surely your height doesn't mean

you don't need thyroid more in range..

So frustrating when you can't function and your lifes

stopped.

mand

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I have no faith in docs understanding

thyroid. What exactly are your results for FREE T3 and FREE T4?

With their respective ranges. Also TSH. If your TSH is in the

lowest of range, that’s more HYPER than HYPO. “WNL†means nothing to me

because they don’t understand what normal means.

Val

From:

hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On

Behalf Of a Hall

Thanks

for answering, Val. In the past year I think I've lost half of what I

used to have on the top of my head and now I seem to be losing it all over my

head. I went to my PCP a couple of weeks ago to see if he could find a

medical cause for it and he just blew me off, told me I was worrying about it

too much. I told him I didn't think worrying was inappropriate since

his hair is thicker than mine now. I had him check my thyroid

again since my skin is also extremely dry and I'm tired all the time. He

called last week and said my T3 & T4 were WNL but my TSH was in the

lowest range of normal. He wants me to try .25 mcg levothyroxine

and see if I can tell a difference. I looked it up and that seems to be

a sub-therapeutic dose, so obviously he's just placating me. I'm not

feeling love for him right now.

a

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But TSH was lowish so she should be getting enough it would appear. Unless there is a pit prob not making TSH.CEWhen they say thyroid is low, do they mean FREE T3 and FREE T4, or do they mean TSH? They move in opposite direction. If you’re taking a T4 synthetic, that might have something to do with your life stopping. Val From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of moseleymandhotmail (DOT) co.ukI have this problem too. My tsh is low and my T4 is 13.2 (12-22) t3 3.5 (4-6.5) tsh: o.68I've had a couple of doctors say my thyroids a bit low but most recent answer has been "but you are small"???!!!! Surely your height doesn't mean you don't need thyroid more in range..So frustrating when you can't function and your lifes stopped. mandSent using BlackBerry® from Orange I have no faith in docs understanding thyroid. What exactly are your results for FREE T3 and FREE T4? With their respective ranges. Also TSH. If your TSH is in the lowest of range, that’s more HYPER than HYPO. “WNL” means nothing to me because they don’t understand what normal means. Val From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of a Hall Thanks for answering, Val. In the past year I think I've lost half of what I used to have on the top of my head and now I seem to be losing it all over my head. I went to my PCP a couple of weeks ago to see if he could find a medical cause for it and he just blew me off, told me I was worrying about it too much. I told him I didn't think worrying was inappropriate since his hair is thicker than mine now. I had him check my thyroid again since my skin is also extremely dry and I'm tired all the time. He called last week and said my T3 & T4 were WNL but my TSH was in the lowest range of normal. He wants me to try .25 mcg levothyroxine and see if I can tell a difference. I looked it up and that seems to be a sub-therapeutic dose, so obviously he's just placating me. I'm not feeling love for him right now. a

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Hello,I'm not on any medication for thyroid. My T3 is under out of the range and my t4 is right at the bottom.I've had a gp saying thyroid is a bit low, other doc said about trying thyroxine. Also had people say its my pituitary causing central hypothyroid.I don't care what it is just wish someone would help me.I'm now seeing a neurogastro doctor.He said I have several problems affecting endocrine system, adrenals are damaged, gastro problem and have to see ENT for sinus problems.Hope your all okay, I starting to give up not much point in being here anymore. Can't eat, funstion normaly, get about, work ort socialise..so depressed now can't see any light at the end of my tunnel.Sent using BlackBerry® from OrangeDate: Tue, 01 Jun 2010 09:05:33 -0500To: <hyperaldosteronism >Subject: Re: a question for women in the group But TSH was lowish so she should be getting enough it would appear. Unless there is a pit prob not making TSH.CEWhen they say thyroid is low, do they mean FREE T3 and FREE T4, or do they mean TSH? They move in opposite direction. If you’re taking a T4 synthetic, that might have something to do with your life stopping. Val From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of moseleymandhotmail (DOT) co.ukI have this problem too. My tsh is low and my T4 is 13.2 (12-22) t3 3.5 (4-6.5) tsh: o.68I've had a couple of doctors say my thyroids a bit low but most recent answer has been "but you are small"???!!!! Surely your height doesn't mean you don't need thyroid more in range..So frustrating when you can't function and your lifes stopped. mandSent using BlackBerry® from Orange I have no faith in docs understanding thyroid. What exactly are your results for FREE T3 and FREE T4? With their respective ranges. Also TSH. If your TSH is in the lowest of range, that’s more HYPER than HYPO. “WNL” means nothing to me because they don’t understand what normal means. Val From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of a Hall Thanks for answering, Val. In the past year I think I've lost half of what I used to have on the top of my head and now I seem to be losing it all over my head. I went to my PCP a couple of weeks ago to see if he could find a medical cause for it and he just blew me off, told me I was worrying about it too much. I told him I didn't think worrying was inappropriate since his hair is thicker than mine now. I had him check my thyroid again since my skin is also extremely dry and I'm tired all the time. He called last week and said my T3 & T4 were WNL but my TSH was in the lowest range of normal. He wants me to try .25 mcg levothyroxine and see if I can tell a difference. I looked it up and that seems to be a sub-therapeutic dose, so obviously he's just placating me. I'm not feeling love for him right now. a

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I'm not on anything, did feel better whenb tried armour a year ago but developed servere AI symptoms.So needed cortisol tested and pituitary etc so then started fighting to get to barts hospital.I've been in but just had news that would of completly screwed my results whilst I was in there.I was pregnant, not now iom sure being pregnant would alter my results. Sent using BlackBerry® from OrangeDate: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 08:01:27 -0600To: <hyperaldosteronism >Subject: RE: a question for women in the group When they say thyroid is low, do they mean FREE T3 and FREE T4,or do they mean TSH?  They move inopposite direction.  If you’re taking aT4 synthetic, that might have something to do with your life stopping. Val From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of moseleymandhotmail (DOT) co.ukI have this problem too. My tsh islow and my T4 is 13.2 (12-22) t3 3.5 (4-6.5) tsh:o.68I've had a couple of doctors say my thyroids a bit low but most recent answerhas been " but you are small " ???!!!! Surely your height doesn't meanyou don't need thyroid more in range..So frustrating when you can't function and your lifesstopped. mandSent using BlackBerry® from Orange  I have no faith in docs understandingthyroid. What exactly are your results for FREE T3 and FREE T4? With their respective ranges. Also TSH. If your TSH is in thelowest of range, that’s more HYPER than HYPO. “WNL†means nothing to mebecause they don’t understand what normal means. Val From:hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] OnBehalf Of a Hall Thanksfor answering, Val. In the past year I think I've lost half of what Iused to have on the top of my head and now I seem to be losing it all over myhead. I went to my PCP a couple of weeks ago to see if he could find amedical cause for it and he just blew me off, told me I was worrying about ittoo much. I told him I didn't think worrying was inappropriate sincehis hair is thicker than mine now. I had him check my thyroidagain since my skin is also extremely dry and I'm tired all the time. Hecalled last week and said my T3 & T4 were WNL but my TSH was in thelowest range of normal. He wants me to try .25 mcg levothyroxineand see if I can tell a difference. I looked it up and that seems to bea sub-therapeutic dose, so obviously he's just placating me. I'm notfeeling love for him right now. a