Re: Strep and C. Freudi GONE with oregano oil

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what does it say for yeast Sandy?

Sally

Sandy and Tim wrote:

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> We just had Eddie's stool and MAP (Organix) results back.

> We were very surprised to see BOTH strep and C.Freundi had gone.

> Not even a 1+ and Eddie has had these pretty much since we began

> despite giving this and that and rotating.

> The only big difference on our gut protocol this time was oregano oil.

>

> We have seen big improvements on oregano oil. It has been a wow for

> us. Now we can see why.

>

> It's not all good news mind - we've got other imbalances, clostridia

> (again) and yeast (yet again).

> (How he can have yeast on nystatin and boulardii and capryllic etc.?!

> My amateur theory is that whenever we have big die-off we get more

> yeast - I imagine the dead and dying bacteria turn to fungus like

> plants in the garden).

>

> Best wishes,

> Sandy

>

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Oregano Oil - do you mean Oregano leaf extract(OLE) or is it something else ?

Ulla, Denmark

Re: Strep and C. Freudi GONE with oregano oil

what does it say for yeast Sandy?SallySandy and Tim wrote:>> Hi everyone,>> We just had Eddie's stool and MAP (Organix) results back.> We were very surprised to see BOTH strep and C.Freundi had gone.> Not even a 1+ and Eddie has had these pretty much since we began> despite giving this and that and rotating.> The only big difference on our gut protocol this time was oregano oil.>> We have seen big improvements on oregano oil. It has been a wow for> us. Now we can see why.>> It's not all good news mind - we've got other imbalances, clostridia> (again) and yeast (yet again).> (How he can have yeast on nystatin and boulardii and capryllic etc.?!> My amateur theory is that whenever we have big die-off we get more> yeast - I imagine the dead and dying bacteria turn to fungus like> plants in the garden).>> Best wishes,> Sandy>> > ---------------------------------------------------------->> No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.13/947 - Release Date: 11/08/2007 14:29>

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Hi Sally,

No yeast was found in the mycology section of the stool test - but

later it says moderate yeast was found.

The MAP has arabinose at 363 (should be less than 63).

We've often found the organix (or MAP) to be more accurate in the

past. Actually we're just chatting about this - we know Boulardii

can appear as S. Cervasaie on the stool tests but just wondering how

well the arabinose marker distinguishes dysbiotic yeast from

Boulardii?

Best wishes,

Sandy

> >

> > Hi everyone,

> >

> > We just had Eddie's stool and MAP (Organix) results back.

> > We were very surprised to see BOTH strep and C.Freundi had gone.

> > Not even a 1+ and Eddie has had these pretty much since we began

> > despite giving this and that and rotating.

> > The only big difference on our gut protocol this time was oregano

oil.

> >

> > We have seen big improvements on oregano oil. It has been a wow

for

> > us. Now we can see why.

> >

> > It's not all good news mind - we've got other imbalances,

clostridia

> > (again) and yeast (yet again).

> > (How he can have yeast on nystatin and boulardii and capryllic

etc.?!

> > My amateur theory is that whenever we have big die-off we get more

> > yeast - I imagine the dead and dying bacteria turn to fungus like

> > plants in the garden).

> >

> > Best wishes,

> > Sandy

> >

> >

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Hi Ulla,

I'm not sure about Oregano Leaf Extract - we use Olive Leaf Extract

as an antiviral.

Oregano is one of the " natural agents " that commonly treats bad

bacteria - you can see it listed as one of those natural agents on

Eddie's earlier stool test - see bottom of pg 4 on treatments for

C.Freundi

http://www.endofthetunnel.co.uk/files/CSAP_April_2007.PDF

Best wishes,

Sandy

> >

> > Hi everyone,

> >

> > We just had Eddie's stool and MAP (Organix) results back.

> > We were very surprised to see BOTH strep and C.Freundi had gone.

> > Not even a 1+ and Eddie has had these pretty much since we began

> > despite giving this and that and rotating.

> > The only big difference on our gut protocol this time was

oregano oil.

> >

> > We have seen big improvements on oregano oil. It has been a wow

for

> > us. Now we can see why.

> >

> > It's not all good news mind - we've got other imbalances,

clostridia

> > (again) and yeast (yet again).

> > (How he can have yeast on nystatin and boulardii and capryllic

etc.?!

> > My amateur theory is that whenever we have big die-off we get

more

> > yeast - I imagine the dead and dying bacteria turn to fungus

like

> > plants in the garden).

> >

> > Best wishes,

> > Sandy

> >

> >

> > ----------------------------------------------------------

> >

> > No virus found in this incoming message.

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Date: 11/08/2007 14:29

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That's what I was wondering. We had a small amount of S kefira in the

dysbiotic section of the stool test. But the stuff itself said later

that kefyra (sp???) was not harmful (and google concurred). Since she

was getting loads of kefir.........that seemed to be the solution. Yes

boulardii is a version of cerevisii (baker's/brewers yeast). Candida is

something else again. About arabinose dunno

Sally

Sandy and Tim wrote:

>

> Hi Sally,

> No yeast was found in the mycology section of the stool test - but

> later it says moderate yeast was found.

> The MAP has arabinose at 363 (should be less than 63).

> We've often found the organix (or MAP) to be more accurate in the

> past. Actually we're just chatting about this - we know Boulardii

> can appear as S. Cervasaie on the stool tests but just wondering how

> well the arabinose marker distinguishes dysbiotic yeast from

> Boulardii?

>

> Best wishes,

> Sandy

>

>

> > >

> > > Hi everyone,

> > >

> > > We just had Eddie's stool and MAP (Organix) results back.

> > > We were very surprised to see BOTH strep and C.Freundi had gone.

> > > Not even a 1+ and Eddie has had these pretty much since we began

> > > despite giving this and that and rotating.

> > > The only big difference on our gut protocol this time was oregano

> oil.

> > >

> > > We have seen big improvements on oregano oil. It has been a wow

> for

> > > us. Now we can see why.

> > >

> > > It's not all good news mind - we've got other imbalances,

> clostridia

> > > (again) and yeast (yet again).

> > > (How he can have yeast on nystatin and boulardii and capryllic

> etc.?!

> > > My amateur theory is that whenever we have big die-off we get more

> > > yeast - I imagine the dead and dying bacteria turn to fungus like

> > > plants in the garden).

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > > Sandy

> > >

> > >

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Hi Sally, sorry if this is a repeat but how do you get Eddie to take

oregano oil??

glad to hear about another wow ! :-)

Natasa

> > >

> > > Sandy and Tim wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hi everyone,

> > > >

> > > > We just had Eddie's stool and MAP (Organix) results back.

> > > > We were very surprised to see BOTH strep and C.Freundi had gone.

> > > > Not even a 1+ and Eddie has had these pretty much since we began

> > > > despite giving this and that and rotating.

> > > > The only big difference on our gut protocol this time was

oregano

> > oil.

> > > >

> > > > We have seen big improvements on oregano oil. It has been a wow

> > for

> > > > us. Now we can see why.

> > > >

> > > > It's not all good news mind - we've got other imbalances,

> > clostridia

> > > > (again) and yeast (yet again).

> > > > (How he can have yeast on nystatin and boulardii and capryllic

> > etc.?!

> > > > My amateur theory is that whenever we have big die-off we get

more

> > > > yeast - I imagine the dead and dying bacteria turn to fungus

like

> > > > plants in the garden).

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes,

> > > > Sandy

> > > >

> > > >

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Hi Sandy This is great news with the oregano. Could you tell me how much you gave him and did you give it orally or transdermally Thanks Sharon GSandy and Tim wrote: Hi Ulla,I'm not sure about Oregano Leaf Extract - we use Olive Leaf Extract as an antiviral.Oregano is one of the "natural agents" that commonly treats bad bacteria - you can see it listed as one of those natural agents on Eddie's earlier stool test

- see bottom of pg 4 on treatments for C.Freundihttp://www.endofthetunnel.co.uk/files/CSAP_April_2007.PDFBest wishes,Sandy> >> > Hi everyone,> >> > We just had Eddie's stool and MAP (Organix) results back.> > We were very surprised to see BOTH strep and C.Freundi had gone.> > Not even a 1+ and Eddie has had these pretty much since we began> > despite giving this and that and rotating.> > The only big difference on our gut protocol this time was oregano oil.> >> > We have seen big improvements on oregano oil. It has been a wow for> > us. Now we can see why.> >> > It's not all good news mind - we've got other imbalances, clostridia> > (again) and yeast (yet again).> > (How he can have yeast on nystatin and boulardii and capryllic etc.?!> > My amateur theory is that whenever we have big die-off we get more> > yeast - I imagine the dead and dying bacteria turn to fungus like> > plants in

the garden).> >> > Best wishes,> > Sandy> >> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------> >> > No virus found in this incoming message.> > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.13/947 - Release Date: 11/08/2007 14:29> >>

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Hi Natasa,

It's in his lemon juice 10-20 mins before meals.

Best wishes,

Sandy

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi everyone,

> > > > >

> > > > > We just had Eddie's stool and MAP (Organix) results back.

> > > > > We were very surprised to see BOTH strep and C.Freundi had gone.

> > > > > Not even a 1+ and Eddie has had these pretty much since we began

> > > > > despite giving this and that and rotating.

> > > > > The only big difference on our gut protocol this time was

> oregano

> > > oil.

> > > > >

> > > > > We have seen big improvements on oregano oil. It has been a wow

> > > for

> > > > > us. Now we can see why.

> > > > >

> > > > > It's not all good news mind - we've got other imbalances,

> > > clostridia

> > > > > (again) and yeast (yet again).

> > > > > (How he can have yeast on nystatin and boulardii and capryllic

> > > etc.?!

> > > > > My amateur theory is that whenever we have big die-off we get

> more

> > > > > yeast - I imagine the dead and dying bacteria turn to fungus

> like

> > > > > plants in the garden).

> > > > >

> > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > Sandy

> > > > >

> > > > >

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[Guest guest]

Hi Sharon,

Orally in lemon juice before his meals (the lemon is to help his

digestion). He wouldn't accept the oregano in his meals.

We gave a maximum of 4 drops.

There's an excellent type of oregano oil (think it's P73 - Tim and I

take the Oreganol capsules - but do not this is stronger so less might

be needed).

Best wishes,

Sandy

> > >

> > > Hi everyone,

> > >

> > > We just had Eddie's stool and MAP (Organix) results back.

> > > We were very surprised to see BOTH strep and C.Freundi had gone.

> > > Not even a 1+ and Eddie has had these pretty much since we began

> > > despite giving this and that and rotating.

> > > The only big difference on our gut protocol this time was

> oregano oil.

> > >

> > > We have seen big improvements on oregano oil. It has been a wow

> for

> > > us. Now we can see why.

> > >

> > > It's not all good news mind - we've got other imbalances,

> clostridia

> > > (again) and yeast (yet again).

> > > (How he can have yeast on nystatin and boulardii and capryllic

> etc.?!

> > > My amateur theory is that whenever we have big die-off we get

> more

> > > yeast - I imagine the dead and dying bacteria turn to fungus

> like

> > > plants in the garden).

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > > Sandy

> > >

> > >

> > > ----------------------------------------------------------

> > >

> > > No virus found in this incoming message.

> > > Checked by AVG Free Edition.

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Hi Sally,

It does sound like one of the ones that could be in the kefir maybe?

I just had a quick look at the list lower down here

http://users.sa.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.html#what-is-kefir

Best wishes,

Sandy

> > > >

> > > > Hi everyone,

> > > >

> > > > We just had Eddie's stool and MAP (Organix) results back.

> > > > We were very surprised to see BOTH strep and C.Freundi had gone.

> > > > Not even a 1+ and Eddie has had these pretty much since we began

> > > > despite giving this and that and rotating.

> > > > The only big difference on our gut protocol this time was oregano

> > oil.

> > > >

> > > > We have seen big improvements on oregano oil. It has been a wow

> > for

> > > > us. Now we can see why.

> > > >

> > > > It's not all good news mind - we've got other imbalances,

> > clostridia

> > > > (again) and yeast (yet again).

> > > > (How he can have yeast on nystatin and boulardii and capryllic

> > etc.?!

> > > > My amateur theory is that whenever we have big die-off we get more

> > > > yeast - I imagine the dead and dying bacteria turn to fungus like

> > > > plants in the garden).

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes,

> > > > Sandy

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -

> > ------

> > > >

> > > > No virus found in this incoming message.

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[Guest guest]

Yes, your S cerevisiae is here as a kefir yeast isn't it? So not the

Sacc boul but the kefir

Sally

Sandy and Tim wrote:

>

> Hi Sally,

>

> It does sound like one of the ones that could be in the kefir maybe?

>

> I just had a quick look at the list lower down here

> http://users. sa.chariot. net.au/~dna/ kefirpage. html#what- is-kefir

> <http://users.sa.chariot.net.au/%7Edna/kefirpage.html#what-is-kefir>

>

> Best wishes,

> Sandy

>

>

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi everyone,

> > > > >

> > > > > We just had Eddie's stool and MAP (Organix) results back.

> > > > > We were very surprised to see BOTH strep and C.Freundi had gone.

> > > > > Not even a 1+ and Eddie has had these pretty much since we began

> > > > > despite giving this and that and rotating.

> > > > > The only big difference on our gut protocol this time was oregano

> > > oil.

> > > > >

> > > > > We have seen big improvements on oregano oil. It has been a wow

> > > for

> > > > > us. Now we can see why.

> > > > >

> > > > > It's not all good news mind - we've got other imbalances,

> > > clostridia

> > > > > (again) and yeast (yet again).

> > > > > (How he can have yeast on nystatin and boulardii and capryllic

> > > etc.?!

> > > > > My amateur theory is that whenever we have big die-off we get more

> > > > > yeast - I imagine the dead and dying bacteria turn to fungus like

> > > > > plants in the garden).

> > > > >

> > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > Sandy

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -

> > > ------

> > > > >

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> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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