Guest guest Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 I have seen a lot of kerfluffle about this. I'm skeptical. I'm going to talk to Will at Eden and get a sample. Why skeptical? Well, over the years one of the biggest complaints about neroli was the fact that it was often cheaply and sloppily made, and had too much leaf and twig matter tossed in the distillation unit. To me, pure neroli is pure flowers. I think the marketers got wind of the displeasure that end users like myself were expressing and decided to put a fancy spin on the product, give it a French name and Voila! A new, desired product is created. Why not just have your neroli and have your petitgrain and blend if you wish? -- All my best, Anya http://AnyasGarden.com http://NaturalPerfumers.com Anya's Garden on FB http://bit.ly/iamja Guild on FB http://bit.ly/1jP5lB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 > > Why not just have your neroli and have your petitgrain and blend if you > wish? I asked myself the same question and thought of the following. Petitgrain sur fleurs is mostly petitgrain with I think about 8% flowers, so I think it makes a BETTER petitgrain product than petitgrain alone and gives the consumer a much more affordable option than buying Neroli oil and Petitgrain separately. I actually have a sample from Eden and I can see myself using it as an ingredient for an affordable everyday cologne or aftershave since it has that extra neroli touch to it. I would love to hear your thoughts about the sample you receive from Eden. Eliam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 ok, so i am biased. petitgrain is one of my favorite oils, in all it's manifestations. i guess i would not add neroli to petitgrain (i.e., bigarade) for the same reasons i would palmarosa or geranium bourbon to rose... and for the exact same reasons that i WOULD. *grin* light:einsof Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 Anya's Garden Perfumes wrote: > I have seen a lot of kerfluffle about this. I'm skeptical. I'm going to > talk to Will at Eden and get a sample. > > Why skeptical? Well, over the years one of the biggest complaints about > neroli was the fact that it was often cheaply and sloppily made, and had > too much leaf and twig matter tossed in the distillation unit. To me, > pure neroli is pure flowers. I think the marketers got wind of the > displeasure that end users like myself were expressing and decided to > put a fancy spin on the product, give it a French name and Voila! A new, > desired product is created. > > Why not just have your neroli and have your petitgrain and blend if you > wish? > Hi ListMom, Folks.... They may have done that...in fact probably are...<G>...! The real thing has been around for a *long* time...Got some back in the first years I was into AT...I hadda find out...<G>...! It was a nice touch to use instead of standard petitgrain, whilst no where near the cost of decent neroli... In fact, is a nicer oil than the junk neroli... -- W. Bourbonais L'Hermite Aromatique A.J.P. (GIA) http://www.facebook.com/Le.Hermite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 > Petitgrain sur fleur (PsF) is one of my top three favorite essences. > It smells _absolutely nothing_ like plain petitgrain, which I also > adore. I have several successful recipes that call for petitgrain and > PsF together (with, say, 15 to 20 distinct notes all told), because > they smell nothing alike. Petitgrain combined with neroli? It smells > similar but definitely not the same. I wonder whether the difference is because Petitgrain sur fleur has young buds of the neroli flowers that haven't quite opened yet. What I always imagined was that they just get the green twigs, leaves and leaf/flower buds and throw them into the same pot. Young unopened flower buds often have a markedly different scent from the fully opened flower (I'm thinking of honeysuckle as an example) so maybe that's where the difference lies. Abbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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