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No wonder you are having problems, Helen. You've had RA for 20 years

and been on MTX for 16. Your immune system is badly impaired -

certainly in no condition to go through the trauma of surgery further

impairing it. Then four weeks later you go through surgery again with

it's accompanying trauma - further impairing that system and then you

had surgery again in April.

No wonder you can't get well. You need to work on getting that body in

shape before you go through another surgery. Also, next time insist

your doctor give you continuous vitamin IVs (lots of C, B's, potassium

and magnesium) before and after surgery. Vitamin E on wounds speeds

healing.

About a year ago our local hospital sponsored some meetings on health

issues. I noticed a well known cardiologist was speaking at one of the

meetings and I knew he used alternative methods so my friend and I went

to hear him. The first thing he did was to thank the hospital for

inviting him to speak. He said, " If they knew what I was going to talk

about they would never have invited me. "

During the course of his talk he mentioned that he had finally got

permission from the hospital to give his surgery patients vitamin IVs

and that made a big difference in the speed of their recovery.

If you have a good health food store in your area, you might want to

contact them and ask them to recommend a good alternative physician who

could help you build up your immune system and whatever else needs to be

done.

Ethel

helen basler wrote:

>

> From: helen basler <basler@...>

>

> Hi group,

> I've been quiet for a long time mostly because of depression. As an

> update and for new people, I had a sublication of the c1 & c2 vertrabas

> and was told the surgery was not elective-was a dangerous situation-and

> had surgery Oct.98. A bone was taken out of my hip and I did great for 4

> weeks. Before surgery I was normal weight of 155-I am tall .

> Four weeks after neck surgery I had a 4 hour foot surgery and have never

> recovered.

> I have had RA for 20 years and been on mtx for 16 and had very little

> trouble.

> The neck surgeon had me to stop the mtx and anti-inflamotories and

> finally told me I could take 10mg of pred. daily. Up until then I had

> never been on pred.

> During the neck surgery I was given cortisone but not during the foot

> surgery. Five days after foot surgery I just collapsed. I could not get

> out of bed without help and the pain was worse than ever in my life. I

> had fever and chills and started losing weight. I lost 22 lbs and have

> been trying to regain it ever since. Before that I always had to watch

> my weight.

> In April this year I had to have the neck surgery redone because the

> fusion failed. Eight weeks later the surgeon said there was still

> movement and he put me in a halo brace.

> I wore it for 8 weeks and last week when it it was removed he said it

> did not fuse and I will have to have the surgery repeated.

> I'm sorry this is so long but here is my question. Does anyone know

> about catabolic state and how to get over it? I have been researching

> what prevents bones from fusing and read that besides smoking-I

> don't-excess movement, malnutrition and a catabolic state can cause

> this. Of course when I talked to my doctors about this they looked at

> me like I was crazy. One of them said that is what Aids and cancer

> patients have. But I have also read that severe stress-such as surgery

> etc. can cause it. I've read to decrease carbs and increase animal

> protein and fat, to take l-glutimine and l-carnitine and colostrum.

> I have been trying these things-except I haven't bought any colostrum-

> for about 10 days and if anything I look worse- legs look like sticks.

> Does anyone have any suggestion? I am determined to delay surgery until

> I am in better health. These last 9 months have been the worst in my

> life. The pain has been unbelievable and the depression overwhelming. I

> did start seeing a physcologist last week and that has made me feel

> better. Again I hope someone has suggestions and sorry this is so long.

> Helen

>

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Ehel - I have a question of IV vitamins. My doctor has indicated that

C & E are readily absorbed by the gut and there is no need for IV's.

One should just up the amounts. On C, I was told to up it until I got

to the point of diarrhea and then back off a little. Can you tell me

the benefit of IV's? Thank you. Sharon

Re: rheumatic I need help!

>From: Snooks <snooks@...>

>

>No wonder you are having problems, Helen. You've had RA for 20 years

>and been on MTX for 16. Your immune system is badly impaired -

>certainly in no condition to go through the trauma of surgery further

>impairing it. Then four weeks later you go through surgery again with

>it's accompanying trauma - further impairing that system and then you

>had surgery again in April.

>

>No wonder you can't get well. You need to work on getting that body

in

>shape before you go through another surgery. Also, next time insist

>your doctor give you continuous vitamin IVs (lots of C, B's,

potassium

>and magnesium) before and after surgery. Vitamin E on wounds speeds

>healing.

>

>About a year ago our local hospital sponsored some meetings on health

>issues. I noticed a well known cardiologist was speaking at one of

the

>meetings and I knew he used alternative methods so my friend and I

went

>to hear him. The first thing he did was to thank the hospital for

>inviting him to speak. He said, " If they knew what I was going to

talk

>about they would never have invited me. "

>

>During the course of his talk he mentioned that he had finally got

>permission from the hospital to give his surgery patients vitamin IVs

>and that made a big difference in the speed of their recovery.

>

>If you have a good health food store in your area, you might want to

>contact them and ask them to recommend a good alternative physician w

ho

>could help you build up your immune system and whatever else needs to

be

>done.

>

>Ethel

>

>helen basler wrote:

>>

>> From: helen basler <basler@...>

>>

>> Hi group,

>> I've been quiet for a long time mostly because of depression. As

an

>> update and for new people, I had a sublication of the c1 & c2

vertrabas

>> and was told the surgery was not elective-was a dangerous

situation-and

>> had surgery Oct.98. A bone was taken out of my hip and I did great

for 4

>> weeks. Before surgery I was normal weight of 155-I am tall .

>> Four weeks after neck surgery I had a 4 hour foot surgery and have

never

>> recovered.

>> I have had RA for 20 years and been on mtx for 16 and had very

little

>> trouble.

>> The neck surgeon had me to stop the mtx and anti-inflamotories and

>> finally told me I could take 10mg of pred. daily. Up until then I

had

>> never been on pred.

>> During the neck surgery I was given cortisone but not during the

foot

>> surgery. Five days after foot surgery I just collapsed. I could not

get

>> out of bed without help and the pain was worse than ever in my

life. I

>> had fever and chills and started losing weight. I lost 22 lbs and

have

>> been trying to regain it ever since. Before that I always had to

watch

>> my weight.

>> In April this year I had to have the neck surgery redone because

the

>> fusion failed. Eight weeks later the surgeon said there was still

>> movement and he put me in a halo brace.

>> I wore it for 8 weeks and last week when it it was removed he said

it

>> did not fuse and I will have to have the surgery repeated.

>> I'm sorry this is so long but here is my question. Does anyone know

>> about catabolic state and how to get over it? I have been

researching

>> what prevents bones from fusing and read that besides smoking-I

>> don't-excess movement, malnutrition and a catabolic state can cause

>> this. Of course when I talked to my doctors about this they looked

at

>> me like I was crazy. One of them said that is what Aids and cancer

>> patients have. But I have also read that severe stress-such as

surgery

>> etc. can cause it. I've read to decrease carbs and increase animal

>> protein and fat, to take l-glutimine and l-carnitine and colostrum.

>> I have been trying these things-except I haven't bought any

colostrum-

>> for about 10 days and if anything I look worse- legs look like

sticks.

>> Does anyone have any suggestion? I am determined to delay surgery

until

>> I am in better health. These last 9 months have been the worst in

my

>> life. The pain has been unbelievable and the depression

overwhelming. I

>> did start seeing a physcologist last week and that has made me feel

>> better. Again I hope someone has suggestions and sorry this is so

long.

>> Helen

>>

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Larger amounts can be given via IV and they go directly into the

bloodstream.

Sharon Wallace wrote:

>

> From: " Sharon Wallace " <sjw@...>

>

> Ehel - I have a question of IV vitamins. My doctor has indicated that

> C & E are readily absorbed by the gut and there is no need for IV's.

> One should just up the amounts. On C, I was told to up it until I got

> to the point of diarrhea and then back off a little. Can you tell me

> the benefit of IV's? Thank you. Sharon

> Re: rheumatic I need help!

>

> >From: Snooks <snooks@...>

> >

> >No wonder you are having problems, Helen. You've had RA for 20 years

> >and been on MTX for 16. Your immune system is badly impaired -

> >certainly in no condition to go through the trauma of surgery further

> >impairing it. Then four weeks later you go through surgery again with

> >it's accompanying trauma - further impairing that system and then you

> >had surgery again in April.

> >

> >No wonder you can't get well. You need to work on getting that body

> in

> >shape before you go through another surgery. Also, next time insist

> >your doctor give you continuous vitamin IVs (lots of C, B's,

> potassium

> >and magnesium) before and after surgery. Vitamin E on wounds speeds

> >healing.

> >

> >About a year ago our local hospital sponsored some meetings on health

> >issues. I noticed a well known cardiologist was speaking at one of

> the

> >meetings and I knew he used alternative methods so my friend and I

> went

> >to hear him. The first thing he did was to thank the hospital for

> >inviting him to speak. He said, " If they knew what I was going to

> talk

> >about they would never have invited me. "

> >

> >During the course of his talk he mentioned that he had finally got

> >permission from the hospital to give his surgery patients vitamin IVs

> >and that made a big difference in the speed of their recovery.

> >

> >If you have a good health food store in your area, you might want to

> >contact them and ask them to recommend a good alternative physician w

> ho

> >could help you build up your immune system and whatever else needs to

> be

> >done.

> >

> >Ethel

> >

> >helen basler wrote:

> >>

> >> From: helen basler <basler@...>

> >>

> >> Hi group,

> >> I've been quiet for a long time mostly because of depression. As

> an

> >> update and for new people, I had a sublication of the c1 & c2

> vertrabas

> >> and was told the surgery was not elective-was a dangerous

> situation-and

> >> had surgery Oct.98. A bone was taken out of my hip and I did great

> for 4

> >> weeks. Before surgery I was normal weight of 155-I am tall .

> >> Four weeks after neck surgery I had a 4 hour foot surgery and have

> never

> >> recovered.

> >> I have had RA for 20 years and been on mtx for 16 and had very

> little

> >> trouble.

> >> The neck surgeon had me to stop the mtx and anti-inflamotories and

> >> finally told me I could take 10mg of pred. daily. Up until then I

> had

> >> never been on pred.

> >> During the neck surgery I was given cortisone but not during the

> foot

> >> surgery. Five days after foot surgery I just collapsed. I could not

> get

> >> out of bed without help and the pain was worse than ever in my

> life. I

> >> had fever and chills and started losing weight. I lost 22 lbs and

> have

> >> been trying to regain it ever since. Before that I always had to

> watch

> >> my weight.

> >> In April this year I had to have the neck surgery redone because

> the

> >> fusion failed. Eight weeks later the surgeon said there was still

> >> movement and he put me in a halo brace.

> >> I wore it for 8 weeks and last week when it it was removed he said

> it

> >> did not fuse and I will have to have the surgery repeated.

> >> I'm sorry this is so long but here is my question. Does anyone know

> >> about catabolic state and how to get over it? I have been

> researching

> >> what prevents bones from fusing and read that besides smoking-I

> >> don't-excess movement, malnutrition and a catabolic state can cause

> >> this. Of course when I talked to my doctors about this they looked

> at

> >> me like I was crazy. One of them said that is what Aids and cancer

> >> patients have. But I have also read that severe stress-such as

> surgery

> >> etc. can cause it. I've read to decrease carbs and increase animal

> >> protein and fat, to take l-glutimine and l-carnitine and colostrum.

> >> I have been trying these things-except I haven't bought any

> colostrum-

> >> for about 10 days and if anything I look worse- legs look like

> sticks.

> >> Does anyone have any suggestion? I am determined to delay surgery

> until

> >> I am in better health. These last 9 months have been the worst in

> my

> >> life. The pain has been unbelievable and the depression

> overwhelming. I

> >> did start seeing a physcologist last week and that has made me feel

> >> better. Again I hope someone has suggestions and sorry this is so

> long.

> >> Helen

> >>

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If I was you, I would probably do another round of chelation and use either ALA

or DMSA, but not both (to see whether one of them doesn't agree with you. My

daughter doesn't do well on DMSA). I would use either 25 mg or less for each

dose. If you use ALA, I would also supplement Biotin and pantothenic acid.

Dagmar.

[ ] I NEED HELP!

I NEED HELP!

Hi,

I have run into a problem I can't handle. I've done 21 chelations

rounds in a 2 years span using Andy's protocol (dosages 25-50mg ALA +

25mg DMSA) and now I feel really exhausted. My last chelation was

December 6 2004 and I have a lot of problems that won't go away since

then.

I'm really scared because I can't eat properly and I can't afford to

lose more weight. Here's what I CAN'T eat: Milk products, Gluten

products, Sugar, Nuts, Almonds, Sulphur foods, Yeasts foods, Oils of

any kind. I also have problems digesting fats and proteins. This is a

nightmare. I re-read part of Andy's book and I think my problem is

lack of cortisol but I can be wrong. Doctors here say I'm crazy and

want me on anti-depressors.

I live in Canada and I would REALLY like to legally get some

hydrocortisone without a prescription. I know about creams and

ointments but they contain things that I don't know if they are

edible like " white petrolatum " . Did anyone tried to eat

hydrocortisone ointment? And for how long?

My chelation was going good but now I'm in deep trouble, I feel like

I'm gonna die.

ph

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Have you considered (HNI) digestive enzymes or NAET?

S

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<BR>

I NEED HELP!<BR>

<BR>

Hi,<BR>

<BR>

I have run into a problem I can't handle. I've done 21 chelations <BR>

rounds in a 2 years span using Andy's protocol (dosages 25-50mg ALA + <BR>

25mg DMSA) and now I feel really exhausted. My last chelation was <BR>

December 6 2004 and I have a lot of problems that won't go away since <BR>

then…<BR>

<BR>

I'm really scared because I can't eat properly and I can't afford to <BR>

lose more weight. Here's what I CAN'T eat: Milk products, Gluten <BR>

products, Sugar, Nuts, Almonds, Sulphur foods, Yeasts foods, Oils of <BR>

any kind. I also have problems digesting fats and proteins. This is a <BR>

nightmare. I re-read part of Andy's book and I think my problem is <BR>

lack of cortisol but I can be wrong. Doctors here say I'm crazy and <BR>

want me on anti-depressors.<BR>

<BR>

I live in Canada and I would REALLY like to legally get some <BR>

hydrocortisone without a prescription. I know about creams and <BR>

ointments but they contain things that I don't know if they are <BR>

edible like " white petrolatum " . Did anyone tried to eat <BR>

hydrocortisone ointment? And for how long?<BR>

<BR>

My chelation was going good but now I'm in deep trouble, I feel like <BR>

I'm gonna die.<BR>

<BR>

ph<BR>

<BR>

<BR>

<BR>

<BR>

<BR>

</tt>

<br><br>

<tt>

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Hi ,

Has anyone (you or Aetna) put any money toward the helmet yet? If

not, than I don't see why you wouldn't be able to cancel. I'm sure

Hanger won't be too happy if they've already ordered the helmet

though. I didn't realize your daughter was almost a year--does the

Hanger ortho have experience treating older babies with plagio? Did

they show you any before and after pics? I know you probably

interviewed the Hanger ortho well and I remember you really liking

him/her, but of course there is more to the equation than that. It

is entirely your decision, but I'd be pretty ticked at Aetna right

now! I'm sure if you really want to go to CT bad enough and you

have any documentation of them telling you that CT is out of network

than you'd have a good case to cancel Hanger even if they have

already paid. Good luck with your decision.

, mom to Hannah, DOCgrad

Cape Cod, Ma

http://hannahsnoggin.typepad.com

> Hello!

>

> I hope everyone is having a good day and had a great weekend!

>

> Just to update a little bit on what has been going on.... Last

Monday,

> my insurance denied CT. Saying they were an out of network

provider.

> They said I had to go to Hanger. I cancelled my appointment with CT

> and went to Hanger last Monday. ( I am supposed to be getting

Briley's

> helmet this week) I left a message with the supervisor at Aetna

last

> Monday. I again left a message on Wednesday. She finally called me

> back on Thursday at 4:30p.m., she said she did not know why they

told

> me CT was an out of network provider, she would look into it and

call

> me back on Friday. She never called me Friday. I just called today

> (Monday) and was told that she was working on it right now and that

> she would call me in the morning. Also, that I can go to CT!!!!!!

Very

> frustrating!!!!

>

> Anyways, my problem is that I would love to go to CT, but I have

> already ordered a helmet with Hanger. Can I cancel?? Plus, should I

> just stay with Hanger? If I go to CT who is to say that I'll be

able

> to get a casting done this week and then it will be 2 weeks until I

> get the helmet. I'll be losing time..... she will be 1 year on

July 2nd!

>

> I really don't know what to do... I like the ortho at Hanger...

but I

> also like CT. Any suggestions?

>

> Thanks a million!

>

>

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Hi ,

Has anyone (you or Aetna) put any money toward the helmet yet? If

not, than I don't see why you wouldn't be able to cancel. I'm sure

Hanger won't be too happy if they've already ordered the helmet

though. I didn't realize your daughter was almost a year--does the

Hanger ortho have experience treating older babies with plagio? Did

they show you any before and after pics? I know you probably

interviewed the Hanger ortho well and I remember you really liking

him/her, but of course there is more to the equation than that. It

is entirely your decision, but I'd be pretty ticked at Aetna right

now! I'm sure if you really want to go to CT bad enough and you

have any documentation of them telling you that CT is out of network

than you'd have a good case to cancel Hanger even if they have

already paid. Good luck with your decision.

, mom to Hannah, DOCgrad

Cape Cod, Ma

http://hannahsnoggin.typepad.com

> Hello!

>

> I hope everyone is having a good day and had a great weekend!

>

> Just to update a little bit on what has been going on.... Last

Monday,

> my insurance denied CT. Saying they were an out of network

provider.

> They said I had to go to Hanger. I cancelled my appointment with CT

> and went to Hanger last Monday. ( I am supposed to be getting

Briley's

> helmet this week) I left a message with the supervisor at Aetna

last

> Monday. I again left a message on Wednesday. She finally called me

> back on Thursday at 4:30p.m., she said she did not know why they

told

> me CT was an out of network provider, she would look into it and

call

> me back on Friday. She never called me Friday. I just called today

> (Monday) and was told that she was working on it right now and that

> she would call me in the morning. Also, that I can go to CT!!!!!!

Very

> frustrating!!!!

>

> Anyways, my problem is that I would love to go to CT, but I have

> already ordered a helmet with Hanger. Can I cancel?? Plus, should I

> just stay with Hanger? If I go to CT who is to say that I'll be

able

> to get a casting done this week and then it will be 2 weeks until I

> get the helmet. I'll be losing time..... she will be 1 year on

July 2nd!

>

> I really don't know what to do... I like the ortho at Hanger...

but I

> also like CT. Any suggestions?

>

> Thanks a million!

>

>

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Nobody has put money towards the helmet yet. I didn't

see any before and after pictures, only those posted

on this site. I am VERY ticked at Aetna!! I feel so

frustrated, no mad at Aetna. I just can't believe that

they told me, yes you can go to CT, I go to CT and

then they said NO you can't go to CT. NOW that I am

questioning their decision... Oh, YES you can go to

CT!

AAHHHH!!!!!!!!!

Anyways... I'm worried though if I go to CT, I'll

probably lose 3 weeks of banding time. Do you think

those 3 weeks will matter that much if I do go to CT?

Thanks,

--- <sarahhollis@...> wrote:

> Hi ,

> Has anyone (you or Aetna) put any money toward the

> helmet yet? If

> not, than I don't see why you wouldn't be able to

> cancel. I'm sure

> Hanger won't be too happy if they've already ordered

> the helmet

> though. I didn't realize your daughter was almost a

> year--does the

> Hanger ortho have experience treating older babies

> with plagio? Did

> they show you any before and after pics? I know you

> probably

> interviewed the Hanger ortho well and I remember you

> really liking

> him/her, but of course there is more to the equation

> than that. It

> is entirely your decision, but I'd be pretty ticked

> at Aetna right

> now! I'm sure if you really want to go to CT bad

> enough and you

> have any documentation of them telling you that CT

> is out of network

> than you'd have a good case to cancel Hanger even if

> they have

> already paid. Good luck with your decision.

> , mom to Hannah, DOCgrad

> Cape Cod, Ma

> http://hannahsnoggin.typepad.com

>

>

> > Hello!

> >

> > I hope everyone is having a good day and had a

> great weekend!

> >

> > Just to update a little bit on what has been going

> on.... Last

> Monday,

> > my insurance denied CT. Saying they were an out of

> network

> provider.

> > They said I had to go to Hanger. I cancelled my

> appointment with CT

> > and went to Hanger last Monday. ( I am supposed to

> be getting

> Briley's

> > helmet this week) I left a message with the

> supervisor at Aetna

> last

> > Monday. I again left a message on Wednesday. She

> finally called me

> > back on Thursday at 4:30p.m., she said she did not

> know why they

> told

> > me CT was an out of network provider, she would

> look into it and

> call

> > me back on Friday. She never called me Friday. I

> just called today

> > (Monday) and was told that she was working on it

> right now and that

> > she would call me in the morning. Also, that I can

> go to CT!!!!!!

> Very

> > frustrating!!!!

> >

> > Anyways, my problem is that I would love to go to

> CT, but I have

> > already ordered a helmet with Hanger. Can I

> cancel?? Plus, should I

> > just stay with Hanger? If I go to CT who is to

> say that I'll be

> able

> > to get a casting done this week and then it will

> be 2 weeks until I

> > get the helmet. I'll be losing time..... she will

> be 1 year on

> July 2nd!

> >

> > I really don't know what to do... I like the ortho

> at Hanger...

> but I

> > also like CT. Any suggestions?

> >

> > Thanks a million!

> >

> >

>

>

>

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Nobody has put money towards the helmet yet. I didn't

see any before and after pictures, only those posted

on this site. I am VERY ticked at Aetna!! I feel so

frustrated, no mad at Aetna. I just can't believe that

they told me, yes you can go to CT, I go to CT and

then they said NO you can't go to CT. NOW that I am

questioning their decision... Oh, YES you can go to

CT!

AAHHHH!!!!!!!!!

Anyways... I'm worried though if I go to CT, I'll

probably lose 3 weeks of banding time. Do you think

those 3 weeks will matter that much if I do go to CT?

Thanks,

--- <sarahhollis@...> wrote:

> Hi ,

> Has anyone (you or Aetna) put any money toward the

> helmet yet? If

> not, than I don't see why you wouldn't be able to

> cancel. I'm sure

> Hanger won't be too happy if they've already ordered

> the helmet

> though. I didn't realize your daughter was almost a

> year--does the

> Hanger ortho have experience treating older babies

> with plagio? Did

> they show you any before and after pics? I know you

> probably

> interviewed the Hanger ortho well and I remember you

> really liking

> him/her, but of course there is more to the equation

> than that. It

> is entirely your decision, but I'd be pretty ticked

> at Aetna right

> now! I'm sure if you really want to go to CT bad

> enough and you

> have any documentation of them telling you that CT

> is out of network

> than you'd have a good case to cancel Hanger even if

> they have

> already paid. Good luck with your decision.

> , mom to Hannah, DOCgrad

> Cape Cod, Ma

> http://hannahsnoggin.typepad.com

>

>

> > Hello!

> >

> > I hope everyone is having a good day and had a

> great weekend!

> >

> > Just to update a little bit on what has been going

> on.... Last

> Monday,

> > my insurance denied CT. Saying they were an out of

> network

> provider.

> > They said I had to go to Hanger. I cancelled my

> appointment with CT

> > and went to Hanger last Monday. ( I am supposed to

> be getting

> Briley's

> > helmet this week) I left a message with the

> supervisor at Aetna

> last

> > Monday. I again left a message on Wednesday. She

> finally called me

> > back on Thursday at 4:30p.m., she said she did not

> know why they

> told

> > me CT was an out of network provider, she would

> look into it and

> call

> > me back on Friday. She never called me Friday. I

> just called today

> > (Monday) and was told that she was working on it

> right now and that

> > she would call me in the morning. Also, that I can

> go to CT!!!!!!

> Very

> > frustrating!!!!

> >

> > Anyways, my problem is that I would love to go to

> CT, but I have

> > already ordered a helmet with Hanger. Can I

> cancel?? Plus, should I

> > just stay with Hanger? If I go to CT who is to

> say that I'll be

> able

> > to get a casting done this week and then it will

> be 2 weeks until I

> > get the helmet. I'll be losing time..... she will

> be 1 year on

> July 2nd!

> >

> > I really don't know what to do... I like the ortho

> at Hanger...

> but I

> > also like CT. Any suggestions?

> >

> > Thanks a million!

> >

> >

>

>

>

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I'm so sorry about the confusion/mess up with the Insurance. I know

that you did really want to go to CT. I'd say though that if you are

confidant with Hanger, I'd just stay with them and I'm sure that you

will be very pleased. In the end you may still pay less out of

pocket with Hanger since their band is a little cheaper, though I

don't know how much your Ins will pay... plus when it comes to your

babies head, $ isn't the most important issue anyway. :)

Do what your heart tells you to do.

Jen :)

(10 mo), tort resolved, Hanger Band Grad

(3 years)

> Hello!

>

> I hope everyone is having a good day and had a great weekend!

>

> Just to update a little bit on what has been going on.... Last

Monday,

> my insurance denied CT. Saying they were an out of network provider.

> They said I had to go to Hanger. I cancelled my appointment with CT

> and went to Hanger last Monday. ( I am supposed to be getting

Briley's

> helmet this week) I left a message with the supervisor at Aetna last

> Monday. I again left a message on Wednesday. She finally called me

> back on Thursday at 4:30p.m., she said she did not know why they

told

> me CT was an out of network provider, she would look into it and

call

> me back on Friday. She never called me Friday. I just called today

> (Monday) and was told that she was working on it right now and that

> she would call me in the morning. Also, that I can go to CT!!!!!!

Very

> frustrating!!!!

>

> Anyways, my problem is that I would love to go to CT, but I have

> already ordered a helmet with Hanger. Can I cancel?? Plus, should I

> just stay with Hanger? If I go to CT who is to say that I'll be

able

> to get a casting done this week and then it will be 2 weeks until I

> get the helmet. I'll be losing time..... she will be 1 year on July

2nd!

>

> I really don't know what to do... I like the ortho at Hanger... but

I

> also like CT. Any suggestions?

>

> Thanks a million!

>

>

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My 4 month appeal to have Anthem Blue Cross cover Provigil to treat my

CMT fatigue was finally denied by the Virginia State Corporation

Commission. I knew it was coming, but was a bit bummed when the letter

arrived -- 7:00PM via courier.

The next day I saw a report in my local paper stating that Provigil

was being tested through a $10.8 million NIH grant as a cure for

cocaine addiction! All I wanted the drug for was to allow me to keep

working and not be forced on SSD.

I decided my fight for Provigil needed to take another tack. I visited

my congressman (He is local) and asked him to make the entire US

Formulary available for those diagnosed with orphan diseases

regardless if the medication is on-label. In the US, an orphan disease

is defined as one that affects fewer that 200,000 Americans. NIH

states there are more than 6,000 diseases affecting 25 million people.

If we can get a regulation enacted, the do-si-do that managed care

providers put us through to obtain needed medication would be history.

If you agree, lobby your congressman for this relief. If you need

statistics and a model letter, email me and I'll give you what I have.

-- Larry

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Hi Larry,

Have you thought about contacting the company that makes Provigil to see if they

have a " Patient Assistance Program " ? If you qualify, you could get your meds

for free. {Gretchen gave me this idea} :)

If you check and dont qualify, maybe you could check on getting them from

Canada. I found www.discountdrugsfromcanada.com today. They have it for a

great price compared to here. Our local news keeps featuring stories about

people in Virginia doing this. They always have positive things to say.

I know this is not a long-term answer, but maybe it could help a little for now.

One other thing......Is the lotion still burning? I hope not.

Talk To You Soon,

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Talk about rejection!

I tried twice with no, nichts, nada, nil response, and I am a STOCKHOLDER!

Three days before my rejection letter arrived I get a buy confirmation

from my broker that he bought Cephalon for me!

AAARRRGGGHHH!

As to the feet, yes, they feel better. Thanks for asking.

-- LArry

>

> Hi Larry,

>

> Have you thought about contacting the company that makes Provigil to

see if they have a " Patient Assistance Program " ? If you qualify, you

could get your meds for free. {Gretchen gave me this idea} :)

>

> If you check and dont qualify, maybe you could check on getting them

from Canada. I found www.discountdrugsfromcanada.com today. They

have it for a great price compared to here. Our local news keeps

featuring stories about people in Virginia doing this. They always

have positive things to say.

>

> I know this is not a long-term answer, but maybe it could help a

little for now.

>

> One other thing......Is the lotion still burning? I hope not.

>

> Talk To You Soon,

>

>

>

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