topical perfume is not the same as internal tincutres

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I'm top posting this as it is simply to difficult to snip out bits.

If you want the original post, it is below mine.

Hemla, there is a great difference between taking straight Coumarin

(also known as wafarin) or a herbal tincture or tea containing coumarin

and applying a perfume made with an oil which contains coumarin. We do

not absolrb everything though our skin, and you'd have to apply an awful

lot over large areas of your body to have any kind of blood thinning

effect, if at all.

Our skin as a very good waterproof cover filter. Essential oils are not

absorbed straight through the skin. In fact there is considerable

controversy as to how much is absolrb that way and I don't know of any

studies that have given us any kind of quantitive measurements.

This is the thing about translating aromatherapy from herbalism: It

simply doesn't work. Topical applications are very different from

internal, and perfume applied merely to a few pulse points is also

different again to say a full body massage with oil.

For instance: Arnica is a fantastic rememdy for bruising and varicose

veins, applied topically as a balm or massage oil.

Internally it is liver toxic in all but teeny tiny amounts.

Coumarin is not an abortificant as such. Most herbs that cause abortions

do this by causing contractions of the uterus, and I don't know of any

essential oils that will do this effectively.

Blood thinners are used in some cases during pregnancy, esp for clotting

disorders, which would otherwise cause damage to the growing fetus or

misscarriage.

Coumarin itself is usually taken by people with heart dysrythmias or

preveious valve replacement surgery to prevent clots forming in the heart.

Clexane or heparin (a chemical also produced by leeches) is more

commonly used for clotting disorders.

Given that I have never heard of anyone misscarrying because of a leech

bite....

On top of that, you always have a problem with language when translating

Chinese medical concepts.... " Blood Stagnation " is an energy concept more

than a physical observation and can cover a huge variety of health

problems, not all of which are directly related to any actualy " blood "

clotting or stagnation.

And because of this, you are not always dealing with blood thinning

herbs in treating it either.

Ambrosia

http://www.perfumebynature.com.au

Hemla wrote:

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> Hi everyone, got some curiouse information today and i would like to

> share with all:

> I'm studying Chinese Herbology.

> today in our lesson we discussed (in the topic of gynocology) treating

> (or helping) pregnant ladies.

> one of the topics that came up was Coumarin, a blood thinnig agent.

> what coumarin does is thin the blood, thus induce stronger blood flow.

> For preagnant ladies this can put them in danger of abortion, we don't

> want to induce so much movement in preagnant ladies, thier growing

> belly is according to Chinese Medicine a good stagnation that we don't

> want to be rid of via moving herbs. (these are the same herbs that

> will induce one to get her period)

> my teacher went on that many perfumes contain coumerin. (and i'm sure

> everyone on this group is aware that through scent and application

> this enters the blood stream, one need not injest it internaly to get

> the affects.)

> looking up on bojensen.net (link:

> http://bojensen.net/EssentialOilsEng/EssentialOils13/EssentialOils13.htm#Grass

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<http://bojensen.net/EssentialOilsEng/EssentialOils13/EssentialOils13.htm#Grass>

> )

> Hay is high in Coumarin content, as is Tonka Bean (this one seems to

> be extremely high in it), many plants actualy, a whole bunch (i don't

> feel like going over them, on the site though one plant containing

> coumarin leads to another.

> i would like to strongly express that giving blood thinners to

> preagnant ladies is bad. there are many other people that should not

> be given blood thinners either (anyone who wants to chyme in with more

> info is welcome)

> Coumarin is an active ingrediant used in Western drugs as a blood

> thinner. it is potent.

> I think it is very important we know this, many people can be caused

> much damage were thier blood to be thinned, and i would love to hear

> others with more information on this, or how when 'diagnosing' a

> patient for scents best suited for thier perfume one could keep from

> chosing scents that may be harmful (if anyone has a system they feel

> is good and safe. somehow the color system developed comes to

> mind as a probably safe one, don't know why though)

> that's all from me for now,

> best to all,

> Hemla

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