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,

I don't have any insight for you, but I have boatloads of empathy!

It really stinks to feel like you're doing everything right and not

getting the results for which you're striving.

I lost 16.5 pounds my first challenge, but was concerned because the

vast majority of all my changes happened in the first six weeks and

very little happened during the last six weeks. Unfortunately that's

continued despite a total shakeup in workouts and rebalancing my

nutrient percentages. Like you I'm baffled - but I've also been

majorly discouraged - so hurray for you approaching it with an

attitude of " what can I do differently? " rather than " the heck with

it, I'm throwing in the towel! " .

Good luck going forward -

Lorraine

>

> Well, I posted a few weeks ago that I was feeling fat... This

morning I stepped on the scale just for the heck of it and I gained

more weight! My eating must be a problem. I've only missed one work

out in 4 weeks. Yesterday I did got out to dinner, but I kept my

portions small. I thought I had been eating pretty well, but maybe

not. I'm still not getting in 6 meals, could that really be a part

of the problem? I eat 4 or 5 every day. Working from home while

homeschooling, it seems there is always something to do that gets in

the way of eating.

>

> I'm not discouraged--yet-- just baffled. I'll re read the 4 week

freak out and maybe gain some insight.

>

> <sigh>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi ,

I a SO in the same bfl boat as you. I'm on week 5, and my weight is

up as well from 167 to 172. In years past I would have thrown my

hands up and eaten every thing not nailed down just to spite myself.

But, balancing against the numbers on the scale, my clothes are

looser, I feel GREAT, I'm getting stronger, and I'm really loving my

food program. NO indigestion, no going to bed feeling bloated and

sick, and I'm feeling so in control of myself.

I keep reminding myself that the scale can be very deceptive. Who

knows why the numbers are higher...maybe it's water, maybe it's

muscle, heck, maybe it's fat. Maybe I haven't *eliminated* for the

day. Who cares? The bottom line for me is that it took me about 8

years to gain 30 pounds, what makes me think I'm going to lose huge

amounts of weight in 5 weeks?

In brief, I'm just really enjoying the journey, and celebrating my

strong body and my new wonderful eating habits. I am a success, and

I don't need the scale to reinforce that for me! Be encouraged!! You

are making healthy changes for yourself. Focus on how great you

feel!!

-- In bodyforlifewomensclub2 , " Brown "

wrote:

>

> Well, I posted a few weeks ago that I was feeling fat... This

morning I stepped on the scale just for the heck of it and I gained

more weight! My eating must be a problem. I've only missed one work

out in 4 weeks. Yesterday I did got out to dinner, but I kept my

portions small. I thought I had been eating pretty well, but maybe

not. I'm still not getting in 6 meals, could that really be a part

of the problem? I eat 4 or 5 every day. Working from home while

homeschooling, it seems there is always something to do that gets in

the way of eating.

>

> I'm not discouraged--yet-- just baffled. I'll re read the 4 week

freak out and maybe gain some insight.

>

> <sigh>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Is this six pound gain consistent? There every morning even when you're

eating completely clean? Getting on the scale the day after a restaurant

meal is never a good idea. Even if your portions are small, the amount of

sodium is still large. It could just be a temporary upswing.

>

> Well, I posted a few weeks ago that I was feeling fat... This morning I

> stepped on the scale just for the heck of it and I gained more weight! My

> eating must be a problem. I've only missed one work out in 4

> weeks. Yesterday I did got out to dinner, but I kept my portions small. I

> thought I had been eating pretty well, but maybe not. I'm still not getting

> in 6 meals, could that really be a part of the problem? I eat 4 or 5 every

> day. Working from home while homeschooling, it seems there is always

> something to do that gets in the way of eating.

>

> I'm not discouraged--yet-- just baffled. I'll re read the 4 week freak

> out and maybe gain some insight.

>

> <sigh>

>

>

>

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What specifically are you eating each day?

On Fri, 8 Jun 2007 09:20:00 -0400

" Brown " wrote:

> Well, I posted a few weeks ago that I was feeling fat... This morning I

stepped on the scale

>just for the heck of it and I gained more weight! My eating must be a problem.

I've only missed

>one work out in 4 weeks. Yesterday I did got out to dinner, but I kept my

portions small. I

>thought I had been eating pretty well, but maybe not. I'm still not getting in

6 meals, could

>that really be a part of the problem? I eat 4 or 5 every day. Working from

home while

>homeschooling, it seems there is always something to do that gets in the way of

eating.

>

> I'm not discouraged--yet-- just baffled. I'll re read the 4 week freak out

and maybe gain some

>insight.

>

> <sigh>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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I hardly ever post (just too busy), yet had to add my 5 cents here to this

thread.

I just finished my 12 week challenge last week and if you want to get

discourage, well here is my results:

Neck - gainned 1/4 "

Bicep - same

Chest - same

Waist - lost 1/2 "

Belly - lost 1 1/4 "

Hip - gainned 1/2 "

Thigh - lost 1/4 "

Calf - gainned 1 "

Gainned 8lbs

Clothes still the same, not tighter or looser.

I did great I felt on my workouts. I have never ran before and because of HITT

I have started to run/jog. My eating was both good and bad. I would normally

take 2 free meals a week. The last week of my challenge was not the best as I

had two of my children's birthday that week, yet I already had the results of

the gain before this.

Have I been discourage... YOU BET!! It is no fun doing all this work and not

seeing good results. Before BFL, all I would do was sit at the computer and

work. I did no exercises at all and ate lots of junk food, so you see I thought

for sure I would have to loose some weight and inches since I was working out

harder than I had in years and ate lots better, trying to watch my portions.

This has my husband baffled as much as myself.

The day after the end of my challenge I started my 2nd challenge. It has

almost been a full week. I have started counting calories (just to make sure I

was not eating too much), and watching my portions. I would love to see BIG

changes, yet I know on the inside I am changing. I do have more energy, my body

is stronger and I know (even though I don't know what) my body inside is doing

some good, so I will continue.

I am very baffled about the food as I am following Bill's way of eating by the

book and seeing no change. I am hitting my 10's and running my butt off (I wish)

on cardio days. I have started doing my HITT and then 15 minutes of walking

afterwards. So, right now with HITT and walking I am doing 2 1/2 miles.

I would love to have feed back from anyone. For calorie counting, I have been

doing Calorie King and they say my calories should be 1300. I am having a hard

time eating 1300 calories and sticking to portion sizes. This is what I had

yesterday.

Breakfast: muffin in a cup w/ 2TB FF cream cheese

Snack: Protein drink

Lunch: 1 cup of hubby's chili (beans and brown rice), serving (7chips) of Pita

chips

Snack: Protein drink

Dinner: 3oz Fish (broiled), 1 oz chicken, 1/2 c brown rice, 1c veggies

Snack: Banana loaf w/ 2 TBS cream cheese

I know I need at least one more serving of veggies. Normally I get 2 servings

in.

I also drink 96 ozs of water.

If I could get some suggestions that will help me get a lean, tone, healthy

body, I would appreciate it.

Also, 2 years ago I did South Beach in 5 months I lost 50 lbs and I ate all

the time and didn't even exercise. I have since lost 70 lbs all together yet I

still have a good 50 more to go. I started (2 years ago) at 254lbs and would

love to get down to 130. I am just lost in what is going to do it for me.

Well I didn't mean to write a book. Sorry!

Thanks for you help

wrote:

Hi ,

I a SO in the same bfl boat as you. I'm on week 5, and my weight is

up as well from 167 to 172. In years past I would have thrown my

hands up and eaten every thing not nailed down just to spite myself.

But, balancing against the numbers on the scale, my clothes are

looser, I feel GREAT, I'm getting stronger, and I'm really loving my

food program. NO indigestion, no going to bed feeling bloated and

sick, and I'm feeling so in control of myself.

I keep reminding myself that the scale can be very deceptive. Who

knows why the numbers are higher...maybe it's water, maybe it's

muscle, heck, maybe it's fat. Maybe I haven't *eliminated* for the

day. Who cares? The bottom line for me is that it took me about 8

years to gain 30 pounds, what makes me think I'm going to lose huge

amounts of weight in 5 weeks?

In brief, I'm just really enjoying the journey, and celebrating my

strong body and my new wonderful eating habits. I am a success, and

I don't need the scale to reinforce that for me! Be encouraged!! You

are making healthy changes for yourself. Focus on how great you

feel!!

-- In bodyforlifewomensclub2 , " Brown "

wrote:

>

> Well, I posted a few weeks ago that I was feeling fat... This

morning I stepped on the scale just for the heck of it and I gained

more weight! My eating must be a problem. I've only missed one work

out in 4 weeks. Yesterday I did got out to dinner, but I kept my

portions small. I thought I had been eating pretty well, but maybe

not. I'm still not getting in 6 meals, could that really be a part

of the problem? I eat 4 or 5 every day. Working from home while

homeschooling, it seems there is always something to do that gets in

the way of eating.

>

> I'm not discouraged--yet-- just baffled. I'll re read the 4 week

freak out and maybe gain some insight.

>

> <sigh>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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You're eating a really classic swell up menu, and it looks like kind of a

high-carb, low-protein one to boot. See the " Do You Want to Lean Out or

Swell Up? " article:

http://www.skwigg.com/id55.html

Are the muffin and banana loaf high-protein recipes? If not, you're missing

a protein portion completely in meals 1 and 6. And if they are high-protein,

you're still going with a highly-processed bloat-promoting choice. You would

lean out noticeably faster with unprocessed lean protein (eggs, turkey,

chicken, tuna) and whole food carbs (grapes, apple, cantaloupe, cherries,

yams).

For meals 2 and 4. Protein shakes are ok for convenience, but they're not as

good as whole food for revving up your metabolism. Chicken and sweet potato,

or scrambled eggs and strawberries take more effort to digest and bump your

metabolism up a little more than drinking something so quickly and easily

digested.

Meal 3 has double carb portions (brown rice and pita), both of which are

starchy carbs and likely high in sodium. Processed carbs and sodium won't

kill you once in awhile, but if you're doing it most days at most meals and

you're someone who's sensitive to it, it can really slow the changes in

inches and scale weight.

Meal 5 looks great.

1300 calories a day is pretty dang low. My advice would be to eat better and

more. 1600-1700 worth of lean protein, fresh fruit and leafy green veggies

will get you better results than 1300 calories worth of shakes and muffins.

Hope that helps. I'm not trying to be critical, just trying to get you

faster progress for your efforts. I admire you for hanging in there and

acknowledging the positive changes that you do see.

>

> I hardly ever post (just too busy), yet had to add my 5 cents here to this

> thread.

>

> I just finished my 12 week challenge last week and if you want to get

> discourage, well here is my results:

>

> Neck - gainned 1/4 "

> Bicep - same

> Chest - same

> Waist - lost 1/2 "

> Belly - lost 1 1/4 "

> Hip - gainned 1/2 "

> Thigh - lost 1/4 "

> Calf - gainned 1 "

> Gainned 8lbs

> Clothes still the same, not tighter or looser.

>

> I did great I felt on my workouts. I have never ran before and because of

> HITT I have started to run/jog. My eating was both good and bad. I would

> normally take 2 free meals a week. The last week of my challenge was not the

> best as I had two of my children's birthday that week, yet I already had the

> results of the gain before this.

> Have I been discourage... YOU BET!! It is no fun doing all this work and

> not seeing good results. Before BFL, all I would do was sit at the computer

> and work. I did no exercises at all and ate lots of junk food, so you see I

> thought for sure I would have to loose some weight and inches since I was

> working out harder than I had in years and ate lots better, trying to watch

> my portions. This has my husband baffled as much as myself.

> The day after the end of my challenge I started my 2nd challenge. It has

> almost been a full week. I have started counting calories (just to make sure

> I was not eating too much), and watching my portions. I would love to see

> BIG changes, yet I know on the inside I am changing. I do have more energy,

> my body is stronger and I know (even though I don't know what) my body

> inside is doing some good, so I will continue.

> I am very baffled about the food as I am following Bill's way of eating by

> the book and seeing no change. I am hitting my 10's and running my butt off

> (I wish) on cardio days. I have started doing my HITT and then 15 minutes of

> walking afterwards. So, right now with HITT and walking I am doing 2 1/2

> miles.

> I would love to have feed back from anyone. For calorie counting, I have

> been doing Calorie King and they say my calories should be 1300. I am having

> a hard time eating 1300 calories and sticking to portion sizes. This is what

> I had yesterday.

>

> Breakfast: muffin in a cup w/ 2TB FF cream cheese

> Snack: Protein drink

> Lunch: 1 cup of hubby's chili (beans and brown rice), serving (7chips) of

> Pita chips

> Snack: Protein drink

> Dinner: 3oz Fish (broiled), 1 oz chicken, 1/2 c brown rice, 1c veggies

> Snack: Banana loaf w/ 2 TBS cream cheese

> I know I need at least one more serving of veggies. Normally I get 2

> servings in.

> I also drink 96 ozs of water.

>

> If I could get some suggestions that will help me get a lean, tone,

> healthy body, I would appreciate it.

> Also, 2 years ago I did South Beach in 5 months I lost 50 lbs and I ate

> all the time and didn't even exercise. I have since lost 70 lbs all together

> yet I still have a good 50 more to go. I started (2 years ago) at 254lbs

> and would love to get down to 130. I am just lost in what is going to do it

> for me.

> Well I didn't mean to write a book. Sorry!

> Thanks for you help

>

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I was going up a few months ago when I realized I wasn't eating right

at all. This month I feel so fat, yet I can see more definition in y

stomach. The scale definitely lies, I don't weigh myself at all

except out of curiosity (and in hopes that I've gone up but not

gained inches). I measure once a month and that is really helping me

stick to the right eating.

Still, a lot of days I feel like " is this REALLY working? " and I

sometimes feel discouraged but during the last month I lost inches, I

hope it turns out the same this month. It's as if I know it's working

because it's happened before, but each month I feel like I doubt it

all over again. I need to learn that it DOES work as long as I stick

to it, and then just make sure I stick to it!

Bonnie

>

> Well, I posted a few weeks ago that I was feeling fat... This

morning I stepped on the scale just for the heck of it and I gained

more weight! My eating must be a problem. I've only missed one work

out in 4 weeks. Yesterday I did got out to dinner, but I kept my

portions small. I thought I had been eating pretty well, but maybe

not. I'm still not getting in 6 meals, could that really be a part

of the problem? I eat 4 or 5 every day. Working from home while

homeschooling, it seems there is always something to do that gets in

the way of eating.

>

> I'm not discouraged--yet-- just baffled. I'll re read the 4 week

freak out and maybe gain some insight.

>

> <sigh>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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,

Thanks for replying back and giving me your feedback. I am wondering... My

hubby is starting a CNA class which will last for 6 weeks and while he is doing

this there will be no income (I am a stay at home mom), so money will really be

a big issue. I live in Alaska and fruits and veggies are expensive. I am just

wondering if there is other things I could eat that would not cost so much? I

was thinking at least with veggies, buying frozen ones.

With the muffin in a cup and banana loaf, they are both loaded with protein

powder and the loaf has lots of egg whites in them. They both use uncooked oats

for the carbs. I do see what you are saying about eating whole and fresh food.

Now with calories - you are saying I should eat between 16 - 17 hundred

calories per day, is this counting the calories you used working out or just

your food intake? I am just so confused with this as with the calorie king...

1300 is calories after you have worked out. So, I could of ate say, 1584 cals in

food yet with my weights it will subtract that many calories off the 1584. Are

you following what I am saying? Because I'm not. hahaha

I appreciate all the help you are giving me.

Thanks,

Lynnda

Skwigg wrote:

You're eating a really classic swell up menu, and it looks like kind

of a

high-carb, low-protein one to boot. See the " Do You Want to Lean Out or

Swell Up? " article:

http://www.skwigg.com/id55.html

Are the muffin and banana loaf high-protein recipes? If not, you're missing

a protein portion completely in meals 1 and 6. And if they are high-protein,

you're still going with a highly-processed bloat-promoting choice. You would

lean out noticeably faster with unprocessed lean protein (eggs, turkey,

chicken, tuna) and whole food carbs (grapes, apple, cantaloupe, cherries,

yams).

For meals 2 and 4. Protein shakes are ok for convenience, but they're not as

good as whole food for revving up your metabolism. Chicken and sweet potato,

or scrambled eggs and strawberries take more effort to digest and bump your

metabolism up a little more than drinking something so quickly and easily

digested.

Meal 3 has double carb portions (brown rice and pita), both of which are

starchy carbs and likely high in sodium. Processed carbs and sodium won't

kill you once in awhile, but if you're doing it most days at most meals and

you're someone who's sensitive to it, it can really slow the changes in

inches and scale weight.

Meal 5 looks great.

1300 calories a day is pretty dang low. My advice would be to eat better and

more. 1600-1700 worth of lean protein, fresh fruit and leafy green veggies

will get you better results than 1300 calories worth of shakes and muffins.

Hope that helps. I'm not trying to be critical, just trying to get you

faster progress for your efforts. I admire you for hanging in there and

acknowledging the positive changes that you do see.

>

> I hardly ever post (just too busy), yet had to add my 5 cents here to this

> thread.

>

> I just finished my 12 week challenge last week and if you want to get

> discourage, well here is my results:

>

> Neck - gainned 1/4 "

> Bicep - same

> Chest - same

> Waist - lost 1/2 "

> Belly - lost 1 1/4 "

> Hip - gainned 1/2 "

> Thigh - lost 1/4 "

> Calf - gainned 1 "

> Gainned 8lbs

> Clothes still the same, not tighter or looser.

>

> I did great I felt on my workouts. I have never ran before and because of

> HITT I have started to run/jog. My eating was both good and bad. I would

> normally take 2 free meals a week. The last week of my challenge was not the

> best as I had two of my children's birthday that week, yet I already had the

> results of the gain before this.

> Have I been discourage... YOU BET!! It is no fun doing all this work and

> not seeing good results. Before BFL, all I would do was sit at the computer

> and work. I did no exercises at all and ate lots of junk food, so you see I

> thought for sure I would have to loose some weight and inches since I was

> working out harder than I had in years and ate lots better, trying to watch

> my portions. This has my husband baffled as much as myself.

> The day after the end of my challenge I started my 2nd challenge. It has

> almost been a full week. I have started counting calories (just to make sure

> I was not eating too much), and watching my portions. I would love to see

> BIG changes, yet I know on the inside I am changing. I do have more energy,

> my body is stronger and I know (even though I don't know what) my body

> inside is doing some good, so I will continue.

> I am very baffled about the food as I am following Bill's way of eating by

> the book and seeing no change. I am hitting my 10's and running my butt off

> (I wish) on cardio days. I have started doing my HITT and then 15 minutes of

> walking afterwards. So, right now with HITT and walking I am doing 2 1/2

> miles.

> I would love to have feed back from anyone. For calorie counting, I have

> been doing Calorie King and they say my calories should be 1300. I am having

> a hard time eating 1300 calories and sticking to portion sizes. This is what

> I had yesterday.

>

> Breakfast: muffin in a cup w/ 2TB FF cream cheese

> Snack: Protein drink

> Lunch: 1 cup of hubby's chili (beans and brown rice), serving (7chips) of

> Pita chips

> Snack: Protein drink

> Dinner: 3oz Fish (broiled), 1 oz chicken, 1/2 c brown rice, 1c veggies

> Snack: Banana loaf w/ 2 TBS cream cheese

> I know I need at least one more serving of veggies. Normally I get 2

> servings in.

> I also drink 96 ozs of water.

>

> If I could get some suggestions that will help me get a lean, tone,

> healthy body, I would appreciate it.

> Also, 2 years ago I did South Beach in 5 months I lost 50 lbs and I ate

> all the time and didn't even exercise. I have since lost 70 lbs all together

> yet I still have a good 50 more to go. I started (2 years ago) at 254lbs

> and would love to get down to 130. I am just lost in what is going to do it

> for me.

> Well I didn't mean to write a book. Sorry!

> Thanks for you help

>

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Lynnda,

Forget the math. :-) How much (and what) you eat has to be based on your own

results and not a random equation. You want to eat the most that you can

while still seeing progress. Generally, the cleaner and fresher your food

is, the higher your calories can be without weight gain. When you eat more

and move more, your metabolism goes up (g-flux). There always has to be a

calorie deficit for weight loss. You can either eat less or you can burn

more. The idea with the challenging weights, interval cardio, frequent

feedings, and high-protein meals is to ratchet up your metabolism. That is

usually a much better long term solution than just dropping your calories

through the floor, because it's nearly impossible to live hungry. At some

point everybody gets frustrated and goes off of a severe calorie

restriction like that. It's better to increase your overall daily activity

level. Someone who stands, walks, gardens, bikes, cleans, climbs, dances,

fidgets and just generally moves around all day will be able to lose weight

at a higher calorie level than somebody who does their workout and sits the

rest of the day.

Canned, frozen, or dried fruits and vegetables are always a better

alternative than no fruits and vegetables. I put canned pineapple and

mandarin oranges in my cottage cheese (rinse them), frozen berries in my

shake. I mix frozen blueberries and sugar free maple syrup to put on my

protein pancake. I put dried cranberries or apricots in my salads, raisins

in my cereal and protein shake mixtures. I put canned corn, peppers, black

beans, and salsa in my Southwest chicken recipe, make stir fry out of bagged

frozen vegetables. There are lots of options for increasing the fruit and

vegetable intake. Hopefully, without breaking the bank. I see your dilemma!

>

> ,

> Thanks for replying back and giving me your feedback. I am wondering...

> My hubby is starting a CNA class which will last for 6 weeks and while he is

> doing this there will be no income (I am a stay at home mom), so money will

> really be a big issue. I live in Alaska and fruits and veggies are

> expensive. I am just wondering if there is other things I could eat that

> would not cost so much? I was thinking at least with veggies, buying frozen

> ones.

> With the muffin in a cup and banana loaf, they are both loaded with

> protein powder and the loaf has lots of egg whites in them. They both use

> uncooked oats for the carbs. I do see what you are saying about eating whole

> and fresh food.

> Now with calories - you are saying I should eat between 16 - 17 hundred

> calories per day, is this counting the calories you used working out or just

> your food intake? I am just so confused with this as with the calorie

> king... 1300 is calories after you have worked out. So, I could of ate say,

> 1584 cals in food yet with my weights it will subtract that many calories

> off the 1584. Are you following what I am saying? Because I'm not. hahaha

> I appreciate all the help you are giving me.

> Thanks,

> Lynnda

>

> Skwigg wrote:

> You're eating a really classic swell up menu, and it looks like

> kind of a

> high-carb, low-protein one to boot. See the " Do You Want to Lean Out or

> Swell Up? " article:

>

> http://www.skwigg.com/id55.html

>

> Are the muffin and banana loaf high-protein recipes? If not, you're

> missing

> a protein portion completely in meals 1 and 6. And if they are

> high-protein,

> you're still going with a highly-processed bloat-promoting choice. You

> would

> lean out noticeably faster with unprocessed lean protein (eggs, turkey,

> chicken, tuna) and whole food carbs (grapes, apple, cantaloupe, cherries,

> yams).

>

> For meals 2 and 4. Protein shakes are ok for convenience, but they're not

> as

> good as whole food for revving up your metabolism. Chicken and sweet

> potato,

> or scrambled eggs and strawberries take more effort to digest and bump

> your

> metabolism up a little more than drinking something so quickly and easily

> digested.

>

> Meal 3 has double carb portions (brown rice and pita), both of which are

> starchy carbs and likely high in sodium. Processed carbs and sodium won't

> kill you once in awhile, but if you're doing it most days at most meals

> and

> you're someone who's sensitive to it, it can really slow the changes in

> inches and scale weight.

>

> Meal 5 looks great.

>

> 1300 calories a day is pretty dang low. My advice would be to eat better

> and

> more. 1600-1700 worth of lean protein, fresh fruit and leafy green veggies

> will get you better results than 1300 calories worth of shakes and

> muffins.

>

> Hope that helps. I'm not trying to be critical, just trying to get you

> faster progress for your efforts. I admire you for hanging in there and

> acknowledging the positive changes that you do see.

>

>

>

>

> >

> > I hardly ever post (just too busy), yet had to add my 5 cents here to

> this

> > thread.

> >

> > I just finished my 12 week challenge last week and if you want to get

> > discourage, well here is my results:

> >

> > Neck - gainned 1/4 "

> > Bicep - same

> > Chest - same

> > Waist - lost 1/2 "

> > Belly - lost 1 1/4 "

> > Hip - gainned 1/2 "

> > Thigh - lost 1/4 "

> > Calf - gainned 1 "

> > Gainned 8lbs

> > Clothes still the same, not tighter or looser.

> >

> > I did great I felt on my workouts. I have never ran before and because

> of

> > HITT I have started to run/jog. My eating was both good and bad. I would

> > normally take 2 free meals a week. The last week of my challenge was not

> the

> > best as I had two of my children's birthday that week, yet I already had

> the

> > results of the gain before this.

> > Have I been discourage... YOU BET!! It is no fun doing all this work and

> > not seeing good results. Before BFL, all I would do was sit at the

> computer

> > and work. I did no exercises at all and ate lots of junk food, so you

> see I

> > thought for sure I would have to loose some weight and inches since I

> was

> > working out harder than I had in years and ate lots better, trying to

> watch

> > my portions. This has my husband baffled as much as myself.

> > The day after the end of my challenge I started my 2nd challenge. It has

> > almost been a full week. I have started counting calories (just to make

> sure

> > I was not eating too much), and watching my portions. I would love to

> see

> > BIG changes, yet I know on the inside I am changing. I do have more

> energy,

> > my body is stronger and I know (even though I don't know what) my body

> > inside is doing some good, so I will continue.

> > I am very baffled about the food as I am following Bill's way of eating

> by

> > the book and seeing no change. I am hitting my 10's and running my butt

> off

> > (I wish) on cardio days. I have started doing my HITT and then 15

> minutes of

> > walking afterwards. So, right now with HITT and walking I am doing 2 1/2

> > miles.

> > I would love to have feed back from anyone. For calorie counting, I have

> > been doing Calorie King and they say my calories should be 1300. I am

> having

> > a hard time eating 1300 calories and sticking to portion sizes. This is

> what

> > I had yesterday.

> >

> > Breakfast: muffin in a cup w/ 2TB FF cream cheese

> > Snack: Protein drink

> > Lunch: 1 cup of hubby's chili (beans and brown rice), serving (7chips)

> of

> > Pita chips

> > Snack: Protein drink

> > Dinner: 3oz Fish (broiled), 1 oz chicken, 1/2 c brown rice, 1c veggies

> > Snack: Banana loaf w/ 2 TBS cream cheese

> > I know I need at least one more serving of veggies. Normally I get 2

> > servings in.

> > I also drink 96 ozs of water.

> >

> > If I could get some suggestions that will help me get a lean, tone,

> > healthy body, I would appreciate it.

> > Also, 2 years ago I did South Beach in 5 months I lost 50 lbs and I ate

> > all the time and didn't even exercise. I have since lost 70 lbs all

> together

> > yet I still have a good 50 more to go. I started (2 years ago) at 254lbs

> > and would love to get down to 130. I am just lost in what is going to do

> it

> > for me.

> > Well I didn't mean to write a book. Sorry!

> > Thanks for you help

> >

>

>

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Thanks ,

We go shopping Wednesday and I will do this more fruit and veggies for a week

and then report back to you.

I was sucking in my stomach the other day and looking and could see a hint

of what I would look like once the fat disappears. I was shocked. Now just to

get the fat down. What BF% does one need to get to in order to start seeing a 6

pack?

Thanks for all you do,

Lynnda

Mother to: , Nephi,Eilish and 6 Angels

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There really isn't a magic body fat percentage for seeing abs. It all

depends on your genetics and where you store fat. Someone

who's naturally apple shaped with a lot of abdominal fat might have to drop

into the low teens. Someone who's pear shaped and carries all of their

weight in their hips and thighs might have ab and upper body definition even

when their body fat is still in the low 20s.

In general though, once your body fat percentage is in the teens most women

have some decent abs happening. To see a full six pack with horizontal as

well as vertical lines usually requires single-digit body fat. In other

words, it's something that's not safe or practical to maintain. People will

diet down that low for a contest or photo shoot and then they come back up

into the low teens to maintain.

>

> Thanks ,

> We go shopping Wednesday and I will do this more fruit and veggies for a

> week and then report back to you.

> I was sucking in my stomach the other day and looking and could see a

> hint of what I would look like once the fat disappears. I was shocked. Now

> just to get the fat down. What BF% does one need to get to in order to start

> seeing a 6 pack?

> Thanks for all you do,

>

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Hi Lynnda,

How far north are you?

I lived in Anchorage for 2 years and my sister was in Homer for

another 2, so I understand the produce challenges.

I can also relate to the challenges of a tight budget and being a SAHM.

I would suggest you get the kids involved in planting some seeds.

Talk to the local extention office or your neighbors.

I am sure your local extention office will have suggestions. They

have pamphlets on everything. Ask around...They'll have a website too.

They even have all the canning supplies available to borrow. At least

they did in Anchorage and Homer.

Kale, cabbage, broccoli,snow peas, and zucchini are going to do great

in those LONG summer days.

Basil,lettuce, and parsley do great in a sunny window.

There are lots of gardeners up there.

n Owen is from

Kodiak...http://garden.blogware.com/blog/OrganicGardening

If you live in an apartment, there may be a community garden plot in

your area.

Even containers are an option and if you set them near a fence, many

things will climb up and produce well.

The greens from a planted onion, garlic, and carrot are edible.

I liked the miscellaneous tips on this website;

http://www.alaskamastergardeners.org/NorthernGardeningTips/MasterGardenerTips.ht\

ml#VEGETABLES

Sprouting in jars is an option to look into if all else fails :)

M.

<and while he is doing this there will be no income (I am a stay at

home <mom), so money will really be a big issue. I live in Alaska and

fruits <and veggies are expensive. I am just wondering if there is

other things <I could eat that would not cost so much? I was thinking

at least with <veggies, buying frozen ones.

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Thanks for all the advise and web sites . I like in a 4 plex in Big Lake

where there is no grass only gravel so far. I will look into doing acouple of

containers on our small porch. We are hoping to some year purchase some land and

build and then we could have an awsome garden as my husband loves to garden.

Thanks again,

Lynnda

tjay1302007 wrote:

Hi Lynnda,

How far north are you?

I lived in Anchorage for 2 years and my sister was in Homer for

another 2, so I understand the produce challenges.

I can also relate to the challenges of a tight budget and being a SAHM.

I would suggest you get the kids involved in planting some seeds.

Talk to the local extention office or your neighbors.

I am sure your local extention office will have suggestions. They

have pamphlets on everything. Ask around...They'll have a website too.

They even have all the canning supplies available to borrow. At least

they did in Anchorage and Homer.

Kale, cabbage, broccoli,snow peas, and zucchini are going to do great

in those LONG summer days.

Basil,lettuce, and parsley do great in a sunny window.

There are lots of gardeners up there.

n Owen is from

Kodiak...http://garden.blogware.com/blog/OrganicGardening

If you live in an apartment, there may be a community garden plot in

your area.

Even containers are an option and if you set them near a fence, many

things will climb up and produce well.

The greens from a planted onion, garlic, and carrot are edible.

I liked the miscellaneous tips on this website;

http://www.alaskamastergardeners.org/NorthernGardeningTips/MasterGardenerTips.ht\

ml#VEGETABLES

Sprouting in jars is an option to look into if all else fails :)

M.

<and while he is doing this there will be no income (I am a stay at

home <mom), so money will really be a big issue. I live in Alaska and

fruits <and veggies are expensive. I am just wondering if there is

other things <I could eat that would not cost so much? I was thinking

at least with <veggies, buying frozen ones.

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