Guest guest Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 > I wanted to know whether anyone in the group had created a perfume with birch tar or experimented with it and if so, what are your conclusions about it? > > Isabelle Oh, Sure I have.... But maybe pre-dilution to 5% or 10% is more helpful for blending, since a little dab'll do ya. Like anything else, it is a tool, and learning it's strengths and weaknesses is paramount to great blends. Birch Tar and Cade are both good to predilute before use... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 > > I wanted to know whether anyone in the group had created a perfume with birch tar or experimented with it and if so, what are your conclusions about it? > > > > Isabelle > > > Oh, Sure I have.... But maybe pre-dilution to 5% or 10% is more helpful for blending, since a little dab'll do ya. Like anything else, it is a tool, and learning it's strengths and weaknesses is paramount to great blends. Birch Tar and Cade are both good to predilute before use... > > > Thanks for bringing this substance to my attention...and doing a web search yielded interesting information from its being used to repel Moose from damaging pine trees to a nice photo assisted tutorial on how to extract it from the bark. I am interested in stinky long lasting odors such as Tonka and Oakmoss so this is yet another to try (as is the " Cade " I'm betting?..thanks ), and I see one of the supplies I know of has it...where did you get yours? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 Rectified birch tar is said to be the only safe one. Please do check out the precautions before using even the rectified version. Safe formulations please! We love you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 > Thanks for bringing this substance to my attention.. I am interested in stinky long lasting odors such as Tonka and Oakmoss so this is yet another to try and I see one of the supplies I know of has it...where did you get yours? My Cade came from a friend, who bought an ounce or something and sent me a few ml's. But really, That's more than I'll need for quite awhile, as it's strictly used for effect, and never a main note... Speaking of Stinky or smoky odors, have you seen Choya Loban (incense from White Lotus) or Choya Loban (styrax Benzoin from Eden)? Or Choya Ral, or Choya Nakh? Look for the low atranol Oakmoss Abs, BTW, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 I actually have a large bottle of the Nakh, that I swear I can smell through the glass of the bottle and the plastic of the " rejects/biohazard " fishing lure box I have at the bottom of the stack. Reading that this was a seashell distillation I thought it might be a good substitute for the seaweed ab. that is to pricey as I want to make a perfume to wear in the Coney Island Mermaid parade when I hit it this year....WHEW! That stuff could strip paint from a yard away and make a goat cry...have you played around with it, because it takes a braver person than myself to even open the bottle again. Why the low atranol by the way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 > > I actually have a large bottle of the Nakh, that I swear I can smell through the glass of the bottle and the plastic of the " rejects/biohazard " fishing lure box I have at the bottom of the stack. Reading that this was a seashell distillation I thought it might be a good substitute for the seaweed ab. that is to pricey as I want to make a perfume to wear in the Coney Island Mermaid parade when I hit it this year....WHEW! That stuff could strip paint from a yard away and make a goat cry...have you played around with it, because it takes a braver person than myself to even open the bottle again. Why the low atranol by the way? > Oakmoss with normal atranol levels is restricted in the EU, and I can't remember, but it might be an allergen... and hence this might be why it is restricted. (I just can't remember) But why invest in a material that is not towards the future of perfumery, when low atranol is the future... just advice, take it if you like, or not. I don't actually have any of the Choya Nakh yet. But you'll probably need to dilute it way down to get at the sea aroma. Try a dilution at 1% to sample it. (1 drop Nakh and 99 drops alcohol) Pueblo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 Hi I have all the choyas. I dilute them down to 1%. Choya Nakh is used at in my Fairchild. It elevates the seaweed absolute and general marine ambiance. Biolandes carries low antranol for wholesale quantity buys. Guild member Eden Botanicals has it for small quantities http://www.edenbotanicals.com/essential-oils-orange-oregano-patchouli-pepper-pep\ permint-petitrain-pine.html#oakmoss All my best, Anya http://AnyasGarden.com http://NaturalPerfumers.com Anya's Garden on FB http://bit.ly/iamja Guild on FB http://bit.ly/1jP5lB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 > > Speaking of Stinky or smoky odors, have you seen > Choya Loban (incense from White Lotus) or > Choya Loban (styrax Benzoin from Eden)? > > Or Choya Ral, or Choya Nakh? > > Look for the low atranol Oakmoss Abs, BTW, > > > I have the Choya Loban from Eden. I love it. Its smoke, resin, and leather all wrapped up in one very strong oil. I used it with other oils in a soap I made for fall. I think I only used a couple of drops and it became the dominant fragrance. My brother actually liked it, which suprised me, because they are a very middle-of-the-road family(of course I cant say what the rest of the family said about it). I actually kind of like it straight out of the bottle! I remember back in fall, I put would put a drop of either choya loban, or cade in the lightbulb ring in my room, sometimes with woody oils. It was insta-fall. I have ingrained memories of the smell of burning leaves every October, and that to me is the smell of fall. Burning leaves was outlawed sometime in the early 90's, pollution and everything, but I can still have that smell now. Its funny, I love the smell of woodsmoke and burning leaves, but my mom loathes it. When we were kids and we got done burning the leaves, she would say how much we stink and make us change our clothes! I also remember one early October afternoon at school. For some reason I was out in the hallway and the doors were open because it was a nice day and the smell of smoke was wafting into the school. I exclaimed " It smells like Halloween! " . I remember my teacher getting a chuckle out of that. I've never experienced Choya Nakh, Choya Rahl, or Birch Tar. Does the diluted odor of Choya Nakh really smell marine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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